Weld: Trump Is “Listening To His Inner Demons” | MSNBC

Weld: Trump Is “Listening To His Inner Demons” | MSNBC


>>>THIS IS “UP.”>>>THIS IS “UP.” I’M DAVID GURA. I’M DAVID GURA. AND THIS WEEK, ANOTHER AND THIS WEEK, ANOTHER REPUBLICAN HAS INDICATED HE MAY REPUBLICAN HAS INDICATED HE MAY RUN AGAINST TRUMP IN 2020. RUN AGAINST TRUMP IN 2020. THAT’S JOE WALSH, THE ONE-TERM THAT’S JOE WALSH, THE ONE-TERM CONGRESSMAN FROM ILLINOIS, PART CONGRESSMAN FROM ILLINOIS, PART OF THE TEA PARTY. OF THE TEA PARTY. LIKE HIM, ANOTHER REPUBLICAN LIKE HIM, ANOTHER REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN, MARK SANFORD, HAS CONGRESSMAN, MARK SANFORD, HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST. EXPRESSED INTEREST. BUT SO FAR, THERE’S ONLY ONE BUT SO FAR, THERE’S ONLY ONE CANDIDATE OFFICIALLY RUNNING. CANDIDATE OFFICIALLY RUNNING. THAT’S BILL WELD. THAT’S BILL WELD. HE WAS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ON HE WAS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ON FRIDAYS, TALKING ABOUT FRIDAYS, TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRATION. IMMIGRATION. HE WAS TRYING TO CONTRAST HE WAS TRYING TO CONTRAST BETWEEN HIS POLICY POSITION AND BETWEEN HIS POLICY POSITION AND THE PRESIDENT’S. THE PRESIDENT’S.>>THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF>>THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF CONTRIBUTIONS MADE. CONTRIBUTIONS MADE. AND I’M PROUD OF THE FACT THAT AND I’M PROUD OF THE FACT THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN A THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN A MELTING POT. MELTING POT. I THINK OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT I THINK OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT WOULD NOT AGREE WITH THAT. WOULD NOT AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK IT’S UN-AMERICAN. I THINK IT’S UN-AMERICAN.>>JOINING ME NOW IS GOVERNOR>>JOINING ME NOW IS GOVERNOR WELD. WELD. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IF YOU’RE GOING TO BE PAYING IF YOU’RE GOING TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT’S ON ABC THIS ATTENTION TO WHAT’S ON ABC THIS WEEK, JOE WALSH IS GOING TO BE WEEK, JOE WALSH IS GOING TO BE ON THAT SHOW. ON THAT SHOW. I CAN’T WAIT I THINK THE I CAN’T WAIT I THINK THE CONTRAST BETWEEN A THINKING CONTRAST BETWEEN A THINKING INDIVIDUAL AND TRUMP CAN BE INDIVIDUAL AND TRUMP CAN BE REFRESHING. REFRESHING. AND MARK SANFORD IS TAKING A AND MARK SANFORD IS TAKING A 30-DAY LOOK-SEE AT IT. 30-DAY LOOK-SEE AT IT. THAT CAN ONLY BE GOOD. THAT CAN ONLY BE GOOD. THE PRESIDENT, IN MY VIEW, HAS THE PRESIDENT, IN MY VIEW, HAS NOT HAD A GOOD MONTH. NOT HAD A GOOD MONTH. THE NEW ABORTION STATUTES, THE NEW ABORTION STATUTES, ANTI-ABORTION STATUTES, HE’S ANTI-ABORTION STATUTES, HE’S SIDING WITH RAPISTS AGAINST SIDING WITH RAPISTS AGAINST WOMEN, AND SIDES WITH MURDERS AS WOMEN, AND SIDES WITH MURDERS AS AS OPPOSED TO OUR ALLIES. AS OPPOSED TO OUR ALLIES. WHEN YOU THINK IT CAN’T GET WHEN YOU THINK IT CAN’T GET WORSE, I THINK THE PRESIDENT IS WORSE, I THINK THE PRESIDENT IS GETTING CONFUSED. GETTING CONFUSED.>>I FOLLOW YOU ON TWITTER.>>I FOLLOW YOU ON TWITTER. YOU USED #25thAMENDMENT IN ONE YOU USED #25thAMENDMENT IN ONE OF THE TWEETS. OF THE TWEETS. YOU CALL IT CLEAR AND PRESENT YOU CALL IT CLEAR AND PRESENT DAMAGE TO THE GLOBE AND TO DAMAGE TO THE GLOBE AND TO HIMSELF. HIMSELF. CAMPAIGNING EVOLVE. CAMPAIGNING EVOLVE. AND SITUATIONS EVOLVE. AND SITUATIONS EVOLVE. THE PRESIDENT IS MOVING TOWARDS THE PRESIDENT IS MOVING TOWARDS THE LOONEY TUNES OF HIS INTERNAL THE LOONEY TUNES OF HIS INTERNAL MUSING MUSING MUSINGS. MUSINGS. YOU SEE THE TRADE POLICY WITH YOU SEE THE TRADE POLICY WITH CHINA. CHINA. THAT’S NO WAY TO RUN POLICY. THAT’S NO WAY TO RUN POLICY. BUT HE SEEMS TO BE LIVING THE BUT HE SEEMS TO BE LIVING THE DEMONS IN HIS HEAD. DEMONS IN HIS HEAD. AND HE WOULD SAY, WITH AND HE WOULD SAY, WITH AFFECTION, IF HE WASN’T IN THE AFFECTION, IF HE WASN’T IN THE JOB HE IS, HE IS STRUGGLING. JOB HE IS, HE IS STRUGGLING. BUT HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BUT HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. UNITED STATES. WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY AND STAND UP AND POINT OUT THE AND STAND UP AND POINT OUT THE EMPEROR DOESN’T HAVE ANY NEW EMPEROR DOESN’T HAVE ANY NEW CLOTHES. CLOTHES. THAT’S WHAT I AM HOPING THAT THAT’S WHAT I AM HOPING THAT WALSH AND SANFORD ARE GOING TO WALSH AND SANFORD ARE GOING TO HELP ME TO DO. HELP ME TO DO.>>IF I CAN PARAPHRASE YOU HERE,>>IF I CAN PARAPHRASE YOU HERE, YOU’RE SEEING STRENGTH IN YOU’RE SEEING STRENGTH IN NUMBERS HERE. NUMBERS HERE. IF THERE’S A ROBUST DEBATE THAT IF THERE’S A ROBUST DEBATE THAT EMERGES BETWEEN YOU AND THE EMERGES BETWEEN YOU AND THE OTHER CANDIDATES, THAT’S LIKELY OTHER CANDIDATES, THAT’S LIKELY GOING TO ATTRACT ATTENTION TO GOING TO ATTRACT ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU’RE TRYING TO DO HERE. WHAT YOU’RE TRYING TO DO HERE.>>NOT ATTRACTING JUST TO ME BUT>>NOT ATTRACTING JUST TO ME BUT ATTRACTING ATTENTION TO WHAT THE ATTRACTING ATTENTION TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING, SO WE DON’T PRESIDENT IS DOING, SO WE DON’T GO FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT VALUE GO FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT VALUE WITHOUT REALIZING HOW SERIOUS IT WITHOUT REALIZING HOW SERIOUS IT IS, WHEN HE RUNS THE TRIAL IS, WHEN HE RUNS THE TRIAL BALLOONS UP, HOPING PEOPLE WILL BALLOONS UP, HOPING PEOPLE WILL SALUTE IT. SALUTE IT. THIS IS OUR STABLE GENIUS THAT’S THIS IS OUR STABLE GENIUS THAT’S SUCH A GENIUS, HE THREATENED TO SUCH A GENIUS, HE THREATENED TO SUE THE UNIVERSITY OF SUE THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA IF HIS GRADE SCORES PENNSYLVANIA IF HIS GRADE SCORES OR HIS APTITUDES EVER BECAME OR HIS APTITUDES EVER BECAME PUBLIC. PUBLIC. IT’S A LIE A MINUTE. IT’S A LIE A MINUTE.>>LET’S PAST OUR GAZE AT ONE OF>>LET’S PAST OUR GAZE AT ONE OF THE TRIAL BALLOONS YOU JUST THE TRIAL BALLOONS YOU JUST MENTIONED. MENTIONED. THAT’S A TWEET THE PRESIDENT THAT’S A TWEET THE PRESIDENT SEPTEMBER OUT EARLIER THIS WEEK, SEPTEMBER OUT EARLIER THIS WEEK, HEREBY ORDERING AMERICAN HEREBY ORDERING AMERICAN COMPANIES NOT TO DO BUSINESS COMPANIES NOT TO DO BUSINESS WITH CHINA. WITH CHINA. YOU WEIGHED IN ON THAT, AS WELL. YOU WEIGHED IN ON THAT, AS WELL. HELP US UNDERSTAND, SIR, HOW HELP US UNDERSTAND, SIR, HOW THINGS CHANGE THIS WEEK. THINGS CHANGE THIS WEEK. WITH THIS TWEET IN PARTICULAR, WITH THIS TWEET IN PARTICULAR, WITH THAT HEREBY ORDERED, HOW WITH THAT HEREBY ORDERED, HOW DID THAT CHANGE? DID THAT CHANGE?>>THAT’S A DICTATORIAL>>THAT’S A DICTATORIAL ARGUMENT, TO DO WHAT I DO ARGUMENT, TO DO WHAT I DO BECAUSE I’M THE PRESIDENT. BECAUSE I’M THE PRESIDENT. AND I’M THE MESSIAH, THE CHOSEN AND I’M THE MESSIAH, THE CHOSEN ONE, THE KING OF ISRAEL. ONE, THE KING OF ISRAEL. LIKE I SAY, IT’S GETTING WORSE. LIKE I SAY, IT’S GETTING WORSE. IT’S A SLIPPERY SLOPE WHEN IT’S A SLIPPERY SLOPE WHEN YOU’RE AS SELF-INDULGENT AND YOU’RE AS SELF-INDULGENT AND NARCISSISTIC AS THE PRESIDENT NARCISSISTIC AS THE PRESIDENT IS. IS. AND HE’S LOSING HIS MOORINGS. AND HE’S LOSING HIS MOORINGS. I SAY HE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED I SAY HE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE. FROM OFFICE. FIRST CHOICE, IMPEACHMENT OR FIRST CHOICE, IMPEACHMENT OR REMOVAL BY CONGRESS. REMOVAL BY CONGRESS. IT’S THEIR DUTY AT THIS POINT. IT’S THEIR DUTY AT THIS POINT. SECOND CHOICE, 25th AMENDMENT. SECOND CHOICE, 25th AMENDMENT. SECOND CHOICE IS JUST THE 2020 SECOND CHOICE IS JUST THE 2020 ELECTION. ELECTION. BUT IF NEED BE, IF HE KEEPS BUT IF NEED BE, IF HE KEEPS CAREENING AROUND, 25th CAREENING AROUND, 25th AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT.>>GOVERNOR, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO>>GOVERNOR, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE THAT LOOK AT YOUR CAMPAIGN THOSE THAT LOOK AT YOUR CAMPAIGN AND SEE IT IN SALEM, AND SEE IT IN SALEM, NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND MAKE THE WAY NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND MAKE THE WAY AROUND THE GRANITE STATE. AROUND THE GRANITE STATE. DON’T NOTICE HUGE CROWDS. DON’T NOTICE HUGE CROWDS. AND DON’T NOTICE THIS GATHERING AND DON’T NOTICE THIS GATHERING SEEM. SEEM. AND WONDER ABOUT THE EFFICACY OF AND WONDER ABOUT THE EFFICACY OF WHAT YOU’RE TRYING TO DO HERE. WHAT YOU’RE TRYING TO DO HERE.>>CROWDS ARE BETTER.>>CROWDS ARE BETTER. PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION. PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION. WE HAD SEVEN EVENTS IN WE HAD SEVEN EVENTS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE YESTERDAY, SIX THE NEW HAMPSHIRE YESTERDAY, SIX THE DAY BEFORE. DAY BEFORE. THE REACTION IS UNIFORMLY THE REACTION IS UNIFORMLY POSITIVE. POSITIVE. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE UP THERE ARE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE UP THERE ARE MODERATE. MODERATE. THEY ARE NOT EXTREMISTS. THEY ARE NOT EXTREMISTS. WHEN I TELL THEM I’M A WHEN I TELL THEM I’M A NEW ENGLAND REPUBLICAN, I DON’T NEW ENGLAND REPUBLICAN, I DON’T HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO THEM IN HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO THEM IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND MASSACHUSETTS NEW HAMPSHIRE AND MASSACHUSETTS AND VERMONT, WHAT THAT MEANS. AND VERMONT, WHAT THAT MEANS. I HAVE A GOOD FEELING HOW THINGS I HAVE A GOOD FEELING HOW THINGS ARE GOING. ARE GOING. MY OBJECTIVE IS TO BRING IN MORE MY OBJECTIVE IS TO BRING IN MORE UNAFFILIATED INDEPENDENT VOTERS UNAFFILIATED INDEPENDENT VOTERS WHO CAN VOTE IN THOSE STATES AND WHO CAN VOTE IN THOSE STATES AND DEMOCRATS. DEMOCRATS. E MAKE E MAKE I MAKE THE CASE TO THEM, YOU CAN I MAKE THE CASE TO THEM, YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST HIM TWICE. VOTE AGAINST HIM TWICE. ONCE FOR ME IN THE PRIMARY AND ONCE FOR ME IN THE PRIMARY AND WHATEVER YOU WANT IN THE WHATEVER YOU WANT IN THE GENERAL. GENERAL. AND I’M GETTING TRACTION WITH AND I’M GETTING TRACTION WITH THAT ARGUMENT. THAT ARGUMENT.>>YOU SEEM TO BE EVICTED BY THE>>YOU SEEM TO BE EVICTED BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. REPUBLICAN PARTY. THEY ARE REJECTING YOUR THEY ARE REJECTING YOUR CANDIDACY. CANDIDACY. WHY IS THIS THE LANE YOU CHOOSE WHY IS THIS THE LANE YOU CHOOSE TO BE IN? TO BE IN?>>THE PARTY WAS SPLIT UP AND>>THE PARTY WAS SPLIT UP AND ONE WENT ONE WAY AND THE OTHER ONE WENT ONE WAY AND THE OTHER WAY. WAY. THIS MAY HAPPEN IN 2020. THIS MAY HAPPEN IN 2020. THE PRESIDENT’S STRATEGY, IT’S THE PRESIDENT’S STRATEGY, IT’S AN EXTREME STRATEGY, IS GOING TO AN EXTREME STRATEGY, IS GOING TO LEAVE ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS IN LEAVE ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS IN SWING IN SUBURBAN DISTRICTS OUT SWING IN SUBURBAN DISTRICTS OUT TO DRY IN THE HOUSE. TO DRY IN THE HOUSE. IN THE SENATE — IF NO ONE IN IN THE SENATE — IF NO ONE IN THE SENATE STANDS UP AND SAYS WE THE SENATE STANDS UP AND SAYS WE DISAGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT’S DISAGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT’S RACISM, WE WANT TO DISASSOCIATE RACISM, WE WANT TO DISASSOCIATE OURSELVES FROM THAT. OURSELVES FROM THAT. I MEAN EXPRESSLY. I MEAN EXPRESSLY. IF THEY DON’T DO THAT, THEY’RE IF THEY DON’T DO THAT, THEY’RE GOING TO LOSE. GOING TO LOSE. I SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE NIXON I SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE NIXON YEAR. YEAR. I SAW ALL THOSE BRAVE MEN AND I SAW ALL THOSE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN, THE REPUBLICANS, GO WOMEN, THE REPUBLICANS, GO THROUGH THE DRAINING EFFORT OF THROUGH THE DRAINING EFFORT OF DEFENDING MR. NIXON ALL THROUGH DEFENDING MR. NIXON ALL THROUGH THE SUMMER OF 1974. THE SUMMER OF 1974. AND THE TAPES CAME OUT SAYING HE AND THE TAPES CAME OUT SAYING HE WAS LYING, NOT KNOWING ABOUT THE WAS LYING, NOT KNOWING ABOUT THE WATERGATE CONSPIRACY. WATERGATE CONSPIRACY. AND THEY ALL LOST. AND THEY ALL LOST. IF THE PRESIDENT IS NOT IF THE PRESIDENT IS NOT CHALLENGED BY HIS OWN PARTY, CHALLENGED BY HIS OWN PARTY, YOU’RE GOING TO SEE A DEMOCRATIC YOU’RE GOING TO SEE A DEMOCRATIC SENATE IN 2020.

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