Tim Ryan, Tulsi Gabbard Spar On Afghanistan | NBC News

Tim Ryan, Tulsi Gabbard Spar On Afghanistan | NBC News


WE LEARNED A LESSON IN VIETNAM.
WE SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTTEN — WE SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTTEN —
>>I WANT TO PICK UP ON THIS>>I WANT TO PICK UP ON THIS
POINT AND I WANT TO PUT THIS TO POINT AND I WANT TO PUT THIS TO
CONGRESSMAN RYAN. CONGRESSMAN RYAN.
TODAY THE TALIBAN CLAIMED TODAY THE TALIBAN CLAIMED
RESPONSIBILITY FOR KILLING TWO RESPONSIBILITY FOR KILLING TWO
AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBERS IN AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBERS IN
AFGHANISTAN. AFGHANISTAN.
LEADERS AS DISPARATE AS LEADERS AS DISPARATE AS
PRESIDENT OBAMA AND PRESIDENT PRESIDENT OBAMA AND PRESIDENT
TRUMP HAVE BOTH SAID THEY WANT TRUMP HAVE BOTH SAID THEY WANT
TO END U.S. INVOLVEMENT IN TO END U.S. INVOLVEMENT IN
AFGHANISTAN, BUT IT ISNT OVER AFGHANISTAN, BUT IT ISNT OVER
FOR AMERICA. FOR AMERICA.
WHY ISNT IT OVER? WHY ISNT IT OVER?
WHY CANT PRESIDENTS OF VERY WHY CANT PRESIDENTS OF VERY
DIFFERENT PARTIES AND VERY DIFFERENT PARTIES AND VERY
DIFFERENT TEMPERAMENTS GET US DIFFERENT TEMPERAMENTS GET US
OUT OF THERE, AND HOW COULD YOU? OUT OF THERE, AND HOW COULD YOU?
>>I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION.>>I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION.
SO IVE BEEN IN CONGRESS 17 SO IVE BEEN IN CONGRESS 17 YEARS, AND 12 OF THOSE YEARS I
SAT ON THE ARMED SERVICESARS I SAT ON THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE. COMMITTEE. THE DEFENSE, THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE, OR THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, OR THE ARMED SERVICES
COMMITTEE. COMMITTEE.
AND THE LESSON THAT IVE LEARNED AND THE LESSON THAT IVE LEARNED
OVER THE YEARS IS THAT YOU HAVE OVER THE YEARS IS THAT YOU HAVE TO STAY ENGAGED IN THESE TO STAY ENGAGED IN THESE SITUATIONS. SITUATIONS. NOBODY LIKES IT. NOBODY LIKES IT. ITS LONG. ITS LONG. ITS TEDIOUS.
BUT RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE, SO I BUT RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE, SO I
WOULD SAY, WE MUST BE ENGAGED IN WOULD SAY, WE MUST BE ENGAGED IN
THIS. THIS. WE MUST HAVE OUR STATE
DEPARTMENT ENGAGED.ATE DEPARTMENT ENGAGED.
WE MUST HAVE OUR MILITARY WE MUST HAVE OUR MILITARY ENGAGED TO THE EXTENT THEY NEED ENGAGED TO THE EXTENT THEY NEED TO BE. TO BE. BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS, THIS BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS, THIS PRESIDENT DOESNT EVEN HAVE PRESIDENT DOESNT EVEN HAVE PEOPLE APPOINTED IN THE STATE PEOPLE APPOINTED IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT TO DEAL WITH THESE DEPARTMENT TO DEAL WITH THESE THINGS. THINGS. WHETHER WERE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER WERE TALKING ABOUT CENTRAL AMERICA, WHETHER WERE
TALKING ABOUT IRAN, WHETHERRE TALKING ABOUT IRAN, WHETHER
WERE TALKING ABOUT AFGHANISTAN. WERE TALKING ABOUT AFGHANISTAN.
WEVE GOT IFTO BE COMPLETELY WEVE GOT IFTO BE COMPLETELY ENGAGED. ENGAGED. HERES WHY. HERES WHY. BECAUSE THESE FLARE-UPS DISTRACT
US FROM THE REAL PROBLEMS IN THE US FROM THE REAL PROBLEMS IN THE
COUNTRY. COUNTRY. IF WERE — IF GETTING DRONES IF WERE — IF GETTING DRONES SHOT DOWN FOR $130 MILLION SHOT DOWN FOR $130 MILLION BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT IS BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT IS DISTRACTED, THATS $130 MILLION DISTRACTED, THATS $130 MILLION THAT WE COULD BE SPENDING IN
PLACES LIKE YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO, OR PLACES LIKE YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO, OR
FLINT, MICHIGAN, OR — FLINT, MICHIGAN, OR –>>CONGRESSMAN RYAN —
>>OR REBUILDING — –>>OR REBUILDING —
>>IM GOING IT GIVETO GIVE YOU>>IM GOING IT GIVETO GIVE YOU
SECONDS TO — SECONDS TO —
>>IS THAT WHAT YOU WILL TELL>>IS THAT WHAT YOU WILL TELL THE PARENTS OF THOSE WHO THE PARENTS OF THOSE WHO SOLDIERS WHO WERE JUST KILLED IN
AFGHANISTAN? WERE JUST KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN? WELL, WE JUST HAVE TO BE
ENGAGED. JUST HAVE TO BE ENGAGED.
AS A SOLDIER, I WILL TELL YOU, AS A SOLDIER, I WILL TELL YOU,
THAT ANSWER IS UNACCEPTABLE. THAT ANSWER IS UNACCEPTABLE.
WE HAVE TO BRING OUR TROOPS HOME WE HAVE TO BRING OUR TROOPS HOME FROM AFGHANISTAN. FROM AFGHANISTAN. WE ARE IN A PLACE IN AFGHANISTAN
WHERE WE HAVE LOST SO MANYNISTAN WHERE WE HAVE LOST SO MANY LIVES. LIVES. WEVE SPENT SO MUCH MONEY. WEVE SPENT SO MUCH MONEY. MONEY THATS COMING OUT OF EVERY MONEY THATS COMING OUT OF EVERY ONE OF OUR POCKETS. ONE OF OUR POCKETS. MONEY THAT SHOULD BE GOING INTO MONEY THAT SHOULD BE GOING INTO COMMUNITIES HERE AT HOME. COMMUNITIES HERE AT HOME. MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE HERE AT HOME. HERE AT HOME. WE ARE NO BETTER OFF IN
AFGHANISTAN TODAY THAN WE WERE AFGHANISTAN TODAY THAN WE WERE
WHEN THIS WAR BEGAN. WHEN THIS WAR BEGAN. THIS IS WHY ITS SO IMPORTANT TO
HAVE A PRESIDENT, COMMANDER INO HAVE A PRESIDENT, COMMANDER IN
CHIEF, WHO KNOWS THE COST OF THE CHIEF, WHO KNOWS THE COST OF THE WAR AND WHOS READY TO DO THE WAR AND WHOS READY TO DO THE JOB ON DAY ONE. JOB ON DAY ONE. I AM READY TO DO THAT JOB WHEN I
WALK INTO THE OVAL OFFICE.WHEN I WALK INTO THE OVAL OFFICE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>IM GOING TO GO DOWN THE>>IM GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE. LINE. IM GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE — IM GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE — IM GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE IM GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE HERE. HERE. YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU FELT LIKE SHE YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU FELT LIKE SHE WAS RESPONDING TO YOU. WAS RESPONDING TO YOU. YOU GET 30 SECONDS. YOU GET 30 SECONDS.>>VERY GOOD MAN.>>VERY GOOD MAN.>>FAIR ENOUGH.>>FAIR ENOUGH.>>APPRECIATE THAT.>>APPRECIATE THAT.>>I HEAR WHAT YOURE SAYING.>>I HEAR WHAT YOURE SAYING.>>I WOULD JUST SAY — I DONT>>I WOULD JUST SAY — I DONT WANT TO BE ENGAGED. WANT TO BE ENGAGED. I WISH WE WERE SPENDING ALL THIS I WISH WE WERE SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY IN PLACES THAT I MONEY IN PLACES THAT I REPRESENTED THAT HAVE BEEN REPRESENTED THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN AND WE WERE COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN AND WE WERE REBUILDING. REBUILDING. BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS THAT BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS THAT THE UNITED STATES DOESNT THE UNITED STATES DOESNT ENGAGE, THE TALIBAN WILL GROW.
AND THEY WILL HAVE BIGGER,ROW. AND THEY WILL HAVE BIGGER,
BOLDER, TERRORIST ACTS. BOLDER, TERRORIST ACTS. WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE SOME
PRESENCE THERE –VE SOME PRESENCE THERE —
>>THE TALIBAN WAS THERE LONG>>THE TALIBAN WAS THERE LONG
BEFORE WE CAME IN. BEFORE WE CAME IN. THEYLL BE THERE LONG BEFORE WE
LEAVE. BE THERE LONG BEFORE WE LEAVE.
>>WELL — THEY WERE.>>WELL — THEY WERE.
>>WE CANT KEEP U.S. PEOPLE>>WE CANT KEEP U.S. PEOPLE GOING TO AFGHANISTAN THINKING
WERE GOING TO SOMEHOW SQUASHG WERE GOING TO SOMEHOW SQUASH
THIS TALIBAN. THIS TALIBAN.>>I DIDNT SAY –>>I DIDNT SAY –>>THATS BEEN THERE –>>THATS BEEN THERE –>>I DIDNT SAY SQUASH THEM.
I DIDNT SAY SQUASH THEM.EM. I DIDNT SAY SQUASH THEM.
WHEN WE WERENT IN THERE, THEY WHEN WE WERENT IN THERE, THEY STARTED FLYING PLANES INTO OUR STARTED FLYING PLANES INTO OUR BUILDINGS. BUILDINGS. IM JUST SAYING RIGHT NOW —
>>TALIBAN DIDNT ATTACK US ON>>TALIBAN DIDNT ATTACK US ON
9/11, AL QAEDA DID. 9/11, AL QAEDA DID.
>>I UNDERSTAND — I UNDERSTAND.>>I UNDERSTAND — I UNDERSTAND.
>>AL QAEDA ATTACKED US ON 9/11,>>AL QAEDA ATTACKED US ON 9/11,
WHY I AND SO MANY PEOPLE JOINED WHY I AND SO MANY PEOPLE JOINED THE MILITARY TO GO AFTER AL THE MILITARY TO GO AFTER AL QAEDA, NOT THE TALIBAN. QAEDA, NOT THE TALIBAN.>>THE TALIBAN WAS PROTECTING>>THE TALIBAN WAS PROTECTING THOSE PEOPLE PLOTTING AGAINST THOSE PEOPLE PLOTTING AGAINST US. US. ALL IM SAYING IF WE WANT TO GO ALL IM SAYING IF WE WANT TO GO INTO ELECTIONS AND SAY WE GOT TO INTO ELECTIONS AND SAY WE GOT TO WITHDRAW FROM THE WORLD, THATS WITHDRAW FROM THE WORLD, THATS WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS SAYING.

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100 thoughts on “Tim Ryan, Tulsi Gabbard Spar On Afghanistan | NBC News”

  • HERNAN SENOREN says:

    Tulsi is a lot better and well informed on foreign policy than anyone on that debate stage and much better grasp on foreign policy than Obama.

  • How did Al Qaeda or telegram get into the twin towers and wire them with explosives on 9/11????????????????????????????

  • "this president hasn't even appointed anyone at the state dept", they all walked out. Or got fired. Why? Deep state, got found out, worked against the presidents policies of achieving peace, getting the marines home. Americans want better health care, better education, they dont want war in a country they cant or dont want to win.

  • thats why there was a Vietnam war, the agenda then was: the domino theory. "we have to prevent communism there", later it was: " Assad is a dictator, Quddafi is a dictator, this and the other are drug dealers. How come no one is arresting the Mexican president for the drug cartels there? there is always an excuse why we have to go to war.

  • the IS leaders who raged in Syria and Iraq were already incarcerated in prison camps in Iraq.Al Baghdadi and his henchmen.Islamic huns. But someone let them out.., on the promise they d behave, this whole Bush admin was a big joke,

  • MBSCM are war mongers, this joker Ryan had a ll the time in the world to scream his ridiculous fantasies abt beating the Taliban for an hour. I bet he was never there, The whole world knows we cant win there, The hawks want wars, dont let them, dont let this Ryan get anywhere,

  • anonymous anonymous says:

    The Afganistan war was a useless war. God rest all of those who fought for their countries but god we (the UK and the US) shouldn't have been there in the first place. Too many Soldiers have lost their lives and too many families have lost a son, daughter, Mother or Father etc…

    It's time to pull the troops out and reunite them with their families and loved ones.

  • Tulsi really contradicted herself here, because she claims to run for peace, but she has just murdered a man on that stage. What a woman!!!!!!!!!LOL. Love her.

  • Neither AL Queda or Taliban attacked on 9/11, it's called a US created event to get us into war for oil/money. Wake up sheep!

  • The Congress critters are a crime gang. Look at what these politicians have done to this nation. Wake up our politicians are no more than a crime gang.

  • Our military is a dismal failure,, huge costs without profit or even worst victory. Korea.Vietnam, Decades in the middle east and Afghanistan all with out victory or profit.

  • It was so much and inside job. Just look at how things have panned out since then. And how the MSM and politicians go over the top with their petty excuses for Bush's wars.

  • Vivian Segovia-Boone says:

    Tim Ryan makes sense ppl – dont fall for snarky stunts by ms gabbard – they are shallow / pull everyone out bc our presence was badly managed half the time by Republicans ? No we must stay engaged / there’s a right way and a wrong way to do things and just bc we have been doing it wrong doesnt mean we should pull out & just walk away

  • I have friends who tell me that Congressman Ryan remembered who I was though I do not remember ever meeting him( apparently went to the same school and the same class). It is just unfortunate that it was pretty easy for Tulsi Gabbard to lay down the smack down. I was thinking what she said-Taliban did not fly planes into buildings in America.

  • Where did this lady come from? She's fantastic! You can't argue military policy with someone whose been in service on the front line. War should always be the very last resort.

  • Tim Ryan is a disgrace trying to get on every news network to blame the president for the mass shootings when it's his party that are telling people to get into the face of president trump supports Maxine waters telling people to get into their faces at the gas station it's pure evil that the democrats are all about they are the party of jim crow the kkk they didn't want to give up the slaves they had they didn't want the black people to have a vote and they call everyone else racist they have some neck I would love to see a few of them hang for colluding with the Russian government shame on them

  • He is a joke it was a drone that cost 150 million dollars so he would have killed thousands of people over that and they said that president trump should be no where near the button I would not let this man near the button he is not fit for office

  • Scott Del Nero says:

    Ms. Gabbard, you, as a former National Guardsman for the US, make no sense telling your audience that we should pull out of the middle east. You went so far as to seemingly suggest that we should support/defend the Assad regime. I've been studying middle east affairs for a while now. A minority of hard line militant Muslim groups have taken over portions of their respective countries with grave harm to the indigents. You can't be serious. The voter base, judging by your polling numbers, must agree.

  • Glad I spent the time to watch Tulsi Gabbard. She is a person who speaks on matters of what is true and legitimate and what is not. For that, she is called a Russian agent.
    All of you democrats who keep getting suckered by CNN, MSNBC and others, please stop it. I'm independent minded and voting. She is a quality person, the same obviously can't be said about a person who puts 1500 people in prison and laughs because she never had to suffer the consequences they did for doing the exact same things.
    It's time to wake up and to be offended when people tell you to ignore what is important to you, they think you're idiots and you have been proving them right for years.
    Gabbard 2020 !!!!

  • Record at The Bins with Mike Britt says:

    Once in a while, I feel the sick need to troll Tim Ryan and then when I see how low his social media engagement numbers are I feel so sad for him and I want to give him a big hug

  • Anonymous Newfoundland says:

    You know I don't believe in government because it's not real
    It's a fiction created by men and women
    But it is all the slave master's I think Tulsi gabbard would be the best one but in all fairness I don't think government or politicians should exist in the first I never understood why people want would vote for butter human beings to rule their lives that just doesn't make sense

  • Talamoni77 Popo says:

    I used to work as a Sargent at arms for Hawaii legislative process many blue moons ago and I remember Tulsi… She was always calm and level headed. A woman of choice words and really studies get opponents. Many have made that mistake of brushing her off as a simpleton… Never wanting to spar verbally with her again. Just saying😎

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  • im surprised Tulsi hasnt been devoured by all of those swamp creatures on that stage!…one POS candidate after another!…by far shes the ONLY good sensible candidate on that stage period!

  • Orville H. Larson says:

    Gabbard's no armchair commando chickenhawk, and that's why I like her. Warmongering, Israel-First types infest Washington. It's vital to support people like her.

  • America for Native Americans Europeans Asians go back to where you came from no longer welcomed. Open borders for native Americans.

  • As long as foreign troops are in Afghanistan, the war will continue. The Afghanis defeated the major super powerof the 19th c (Great Britain) TWICE. And after eighteen years, the US has made no progress in winning this war.

    We fought for more than a decade in VietNam before we decided that the war was not in our interest. We simply left. We should pull out of Afghanistan and leave the Afghanis to solve their own problems. We don't have to be the world's policeman, esp. since we do such a poor job of it.

  • I'm English and neutral on these debates. But watching Tim Ryan, he couldn't careless about American servicemen and women. He represents war, war manufacturers. As for his giant lie about planes flown into the twin towers – it was not the Taliban Tim. He knew it yet threw it in there. Tulsi Gabbard speaks well and is sensible, she knows about the horrors of war but not economics etc. Who would be advising her?

  • I like Tulsi a lot but she’s wrong on parts of this issue. He is 1000% correct in saying that the Taliban protected al Qaeda and if America leaves Afghanistan .. they will continue to protect them. And if that happens again you can expect another 9/11. I’m an afghan American and I’ve been hearing about these issues way before 911 on alternative media sources. Why do you people have such a bad memory??

  • Tulsi Gabbard ( Hawaii )Very attractive and well spoken but let's separate wishful thinking from reality. Wishing the best to Medical Major US Veteran Tulsi, she speaks about ending all regime change wars if she became president.
     
    Now we all know how powerful the Arms Industry is on this country and if you have any basic understanding of how our capitalist economic system works then you would be aware of the reality of this nation's foreign policy to influence other friendly nations and keep their support in foreign conflicts. The reality is that this country will NEVER become like Switzerland ( Neutral ) or like Costa Rica ( NO Military ) So Mrs Tulsi's wishful thinking is absolutely not logical. Isolationism have its drastic consequences and Mrs Tulsi doesn't seem to be aware of them.
     
    First there is the well known fact that many other nations buy arms, planes, ships from the US and that is not going to go away so easily, specially if you as a president cannot control the US Senate. There is the other fact that many " regimes" or developing regimes like the 'Taliban', AL-Qaeda, ISIS, Venezuela, North Korea, even Russia are so dangerous to America's NATIONAL SECURITY and its allies national security, that it really sounds very NARROW MINDED and with all due respect bordering on ignorance to make an statement like that. So having said that, she appears to have the best of intentions but in reality her agenda is limited in her lack of knowledge on US Foreign Policy and its effects on US interests and its allies interests and least of all is not achievable in the big realm of things. Use your votes wisely America.
     
    On the issue of Medicare for all or Health care for all. That is a very popular and needed benefit for many seniors and for many low income earners. It is easy to advocate for this cause but in reality no one yet has been able to implement it efficiently enough , NOT even Obama with its very unpopular and inefficient 'Obama Care Health Plan'. The pharmaceutical and healthcare insurance industries will not loose money or disappear just because Rep. Tulsi or anyone else wants to change the entire industry, that is NOT realistic and it will never happen in this country.
     
    Some people in this country are so gullible and so easily mislead, deceived and lie to that is why most of them voted for Obama, and Hillary Clinton , it is unbelievable the level of ignorance about this issue. Presidential candidates know this and that's why they raise and talk about complex issues that most people don't have enough knowledge to compare and evaluate properly what they are advocating, so they basically vote on empty promises and this cycle repeats over and over again.

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