Snowden Claims Petraeus Disclosed “More Highly Classified” Secrets “Than I Ever Did”

Snowden Claims Petraeus Disclosed “More Highly Classified” Secrets “Than I Ever Did”

Very very interesting and disturbing… … if you believe that General David Petraeus, former CIA director David Petraeus, … is possibly going to be in Donald Trump’s cabinet. Katie Couric, who is the Yahoo global news anchor … interviewed Edward Snowden in Moscow and Edward Snowden said that former CIA director general David Petraeus disclosed … “information that was far more highly classified than I ever did, … and yet has never spent a single day in jail” Again: this is relevant today, because David Petraeus is being considered… … for Secretary of State in the incoming Trump administration. And this all started talking about what’s going on with Snowden. Snowden’s lawyers in the US are… … sort of worried about the Trump administration, and the possibility… … that the Trump administration will take a very hard lined position against Snowden. So they either want a last-minute pardon from President Obama, … or to negotiate some kind of plea bargain … that would allow Snowden to come back to the United States… … without having to spend a lot of time in federal prison. So Katie Couric asked Edward Snowden: “Well, what kind of plea bargain might you accept?” And Edward Snowden said: “You know, there are cases, like with David Petraeus… … where far worse things were done than what I did, … and yet there wasn’t a single day served in prison. That’s how Petraeus’ name came up And here’s what Edward Snowden had to say to Katie Couric:>>What would a plea deal look like for you?>>You know, I’m not actually sure, because I’m not a lawyer, but the idea here is: when most people who are involved in government, … or the intelligence community are involved in some sort of case where the government goes “This person was acting in good faith, … they were trying to do right by the American people, … but they did break the law” no charges were ever brought, or they’re brought very minimally. Perhaps the best-known case in recent history here … is General Petraeus, who shared information… … that was far more highly classified … than I ever did with journalists. And he shared this information not with the public for their benefit , but with his biographer and lover, for personal benefit. Conversations that had information, detailed information about military special access programs. It’s classified above top secret conversations with the President and so on. When the government came after him, they charged him with a misdemeanor. He never spent a single day in jail, despite the type of classified information he exposed. When we had the most senior intelligence official in the United States, general James Clapper, who lied to the American people and all of Congress on camera, under oath, in the Senate, in a famous exchange with Ron Wyden, …he wasn’t even charged. Whatever you think about Edward Snowden, there is no doubt … … that there are two justice systems in the United States. There are two sets of laws. But regardless, there are also some differences that are important to recognise. The information that General David Petraeus gave his lover biographer Broadwell is information that was not used in her book about David Petraeus. And it was information that was not made public. However, Petraeus did admit to making a false statement to the FBI about what he said, and that is very serious and it should be taken very seriously. There’s an interesting tech angle also, which is that the way that David Petraeus was communicating with with Miss Broadwell was that they were using a regular old gmail account which they would draft emails. They would create an email and draft it, but not send it. And then the other, Broadwell, would log in and she would be able to read the draft that Petraeus had written, get the information that she needed, and then delete it. And I wonder who thought of that because you’ve got a guy who is by many estimations a military genius and apparently a total technological moron for the CIA director, Pat to be using the old “Let’s use the unsent gmail drafts method to communicate”, that is something that drug dealers have been caught doing that’s something terrorists have been caught doing. And David Petraeus thought that it was a good way to communicatie … very classified information. Another interesting angle to this too is Donald Trump’s pick for CIA director is Mike Pompeo, who actually called for the execution of Edward Snowden. His predecessor is David Petraeus, one of them and you’d have to imagine that he’d be logically consistent. If you just call for the death penalty for Snowden, you would do the same for Petraeus, right? Yeah, well logical consistency, I would not hold my breath there, as far as the Trump administration is concerned. I think it’s also important to distinguish between leakers and whistleblowers Edward Snowden is generally talking about… … he had intent to help the American people. To be clear though, Edward Snowden did not expose crimes. He exposed completely concerning and ineffective surveillance… … that had been legalized by the government. And you can make the case it shouldn’t be legal, you can make the case that it’s absolutely sort of irrelevant in the global war on terror to the extent that, that you believe that these techniques can or should be discussed in fighting that global war on terror, But it is very different from what Chelsea Manning for example exposed. So I think it’s relevant to talk about two justice systems when we talk about Snowden, Manning, Petraeus, the leaking or disclosing of classified information But it’s also very important not to conflate a lot of these instances. Just because you think something is unethical doesn’t mean that you are a whistleblower if that action or thing you’re exposing is not against the law. And I know many people will hear me say that and will say “But David, it SHOULD be against the law,” and that’s perfectly reasonable to say, But if it’s not, legally speaking we’re talking about two different things.


29 thoughts on “Snowden Claims Petraeus Disclosed “More Highly Classified” Secrets “Than I Ever Did””

  • But David, it is illegal and against the law. It violates the 4th amendment to the constitution, the supreme law of the land. It doesn't matter if they made it "legal" federally, it's still illegal because the constitution supercedes any other laws. So yes, he did expose crimes the government is committing against its own people, and they still are today.

  • If you believe Hillary was above the law and got away with a crime a "normal" person would not have, but but . . . Petraeus?

  • Of course there are two sets of laws in the United States… irrespective who the President is. David Petraeus, Hillary Clinton and other wealthy people can do whatever they want with sensitive information and get away with just a slight tap on their shoulder, but Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden would be sentenced for life for doing right by the American people.

  • Anybody who puts in 30 minutes of research can figure out how to use PGP encryption to send email that not even the NSA can decipher. He got the drafts idea from being briefed that it's how terrorist cells were communicating back in the 2008 era. He's such a genius he figured he'd re-use a bad trick that he'd already been informed was easily compromised.

    Petraeus is an incompetent moron. Why is this guy so respected? He's a careless bafoon who thinks he has to give away state secrets to get his dick wet. For fuck sake, just get a hooker like he rest of Washington. He doesn't even possess common sense, let alone integrity.

  • Yes David there are two justice systems in this country. That should be obvious when laws and prison minimums are passed just to disenfranchise certain portions of the population. It should also be apparent that we have two election systems. One that everyone votes in and another that determines who is going to be elected. 2.5 million more people voted for Clinton over Trump and their votes don't count. Next time you're ranting about how everyone should vote you'll know the reason that many people just don't bother.

  • But it's a question of intent. Petraeus wasn't trying to harm the establishment, Snowden and Manning did what they did to expose the establishment's crimes. That's what matter.

  • "Disclosure?" What about the Bush's having become closer than ever to the Bin Ladin family and sharing extensive economic and social relations right around 911? Not sure if the info shared between these two dynasties could get any more "highly classified." Makes Hilary's emails look like dirty grade school class notes shared under the school desks between two little boys like, "I wanna kiss Mary on the lips!!!"

  • And other people have gone to jail for doing what Clinton did. And Sandy Berger stole secrets in his boots. But only peons go to jail for revealing secrets.

  • David, the Constitution doesn't allow for statutory laws that contradict it to be considered legal. In fact, quite the opposite is true. Edward Snowden is a whistleblower regardless of whether a given program that he exposed via journalists was codified in some way by the US government because the mass sweeping up of Americans' personal data is flagrantly unconstitutional.

    Both he and Chelsea Manning, as well as other whistleblowers, should be pardoned.

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