Several states challenge Trump admin ‘public charge’ rule

Several states challenge Trump admin ‘public charge’ rule


SEVERAL STATES ARE TAKING LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THE TRUMP MINISTRATION PUBLIC CHARGE POLICY THAT WOULD DENY GREEN CARDS TO APPLICANTS THAT RECEIVE LONG-TERM PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. LET’S BRING IN FORMER OVERSIGHT COUNCIL AT THE DHS AND THE SENIOR SENIOR ADVISOR AT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION MIKE HOWELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. JUST TO BEGIN, HOW IMPACTFUL DO YOU THINK THE NEW POLICY WILL BE AS IT’S ROLLED OUT?>>I THINK THIS IS THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL ACTION OF THIS POLICY. AND PERHAPS THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL ACTION IN MANY DECADES FULL IN FOREST AND CARRIED OUT IT HAS MASSIVE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE INCOMING LEGAL POPULATION AND THOSE ALREADY IN THE COUNTRY.>>WE TALKED TO BEING FULLY ENFORCED WHAT YOU THINK THE LIKELIHOOD IS OF THAT. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF ICE TO ACTUALLY REMOVE FOLKS. THEY HAVE MADE IT BIG POLICY OF THOSE TO LIMIT THE CAPACITY OF ICE TO THE EXTENT OF THOSE NUMBERS THEY ARE ABLE TO GET HIGHER. THERE IS MORE SPACE FOR FOLKS TO BE REMOVED.>>AGAINST THIS IN GENERAL. BROADLY FROM FOLKS THAT ARE RUNNING TO THE WHITE HOUSE. ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL AS LAWSUITS. THERE IS SOME MULTITUDE OF STATES MORE THAN A DOZEN FILE INCLUDING ROBERT SANTOS. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION MESSAGE IS CLEAR IF YOU ARE WEALTHY YOU ARE BLOCK YOUR REPORT YOU ARE NOT. IT FORCES THEM TO SACRIFICE AS THEIR DREAM FOR FOOD OR ROOF OVER THEIR CHILDREN’S HEAD. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THE ACTUAL RULE. LIKE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT’S HAPPENING. THERE IS STILL AN ALLOWANCE FOR ASYLUM. AND HUMANITARIAN CASES AND ASKING FOR IMMIGRANTS TO BE WEALTHY. TO NOT BE RELIANT ON THE LIMITED SOCIAL SERVICES OF THIS COMPANY ARE RESERVED FOR AMERICANS. SPEAK TO WHY YOU THINK THE ROLL OUT NOW. IT HAS ROLLED OUT A NUMBER OF POLICIES. SOME HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED BY THE COURTS. WHY NOW?>>IS A GREAT QUESTION. THIS IS THE DAY ONE PRIORITY AT DHS IN THE DIRECTION OF THE WANTED TO DO IT RIGHT. THEY PUT IT THROUGH A VERY ROBUST PROCESS. IT TOOK WELL OVER TWO YEARS TO GET WHERE WE ARE NOW BUT NOW WE ARE VERY SOLID LEGAL FOUNDATION AND CAN SURVIVE A MYRIAD OF CHALLENGES. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE LOSSES THAT ARE COMING OUT OF CALIFORNIA AND THE FAR LEFT, THEY ARE REALLY MAKING A VALID LEGAL CLAIM THESE ARE POLICY OBJECTIONS. THE ADMINISTRATION IS A GOOD LEGAL FOOTING BECAUSE OF THE DELIVERANCE OF NATURE THAT THEY TOOK. BQ ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TOOK. IS RELATED TO RACISM. BUT SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS POLICY NUMBER OF IMMIGRANT ORGANIZATIONS HAVE COME OUT AND PUSH BACK. AMONG THEM THE NATIONAL IMMIGRATION LAW CENTER. SHE WRITES IF YOU ARE NOT WHITE AND WEALTHY YOU ARE NO LONGER WEALTHY –DASH WELCOME WELCOME IN THIS COUNTRY. YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS IS SOMETHING TO RATE IMMIGRANTS. FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.>>I WOULD ENCOURAGE HER TO READ THE RULE. IT IS A RACIALLY NEUTRAL RULE IT DOES NOT CARE WHAT COLOR YOU ARE. IT APPLIES TO PEOPLE ACROSS THE BOARD. I’LL SHOW YOU, WHEREVER YOU WANT. IT IS RACIALLY NEUTRAL IS SIMPLY ASKING THE IMMIGRANTS WHO WISH TO COME INTO THIS

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100 thoughts on “Several states challenge Trump admin ‘public charge’ rule”

  • Maleak Dalladindu says:

    This ferguson guy has no clue what he's talking about at best, straight lying at worst. Public charge doctrine has been a thing since the 1800's, and was implemented federally in 1882.

  • Have anyone ever heard of the words limited resources? How stupid can some people be who what to argue over letting immigrants on visas come into this country and suck the limited resources dry from the real American people who was born here only idiots would think this is okay.

  • Finally an administration that is doing things that we all know make sense and that will help the actual citizens instead of people of other nations like the Democrats do.

  • I AGREE with Trumps policy 1000%
    I am SICK of this inane sense of entitlement …even by U.S. citizens …but when foreigners invade our nation and come here with empty wallets; empty belly's; empty mouths …and empty brains frequently and expecting US to provide for them that is beyond RIDICULOUS! Charity begins at home. These people have contributed absolutely NOTHING to this nation …and we owe them absolutely NOTHING!

  • KingJames 1611 Galatians 4:16 says:

    Repeated practices of bigotry, prejudice, the majority descendants of slave owners. All though the physical slavery have laid dormant, the mind set is alive in fullness.
    Between the Christianity of this land and the Christianity of Christ, I recognize the widest possible difference—so wide that to receive the one as good, pure, and holy, is of necessity to reject the other as bad, corrupt, and wicked. 
     I therefore hate the corrupt, slave-holding, women-whipping, cradle-plundering, partial and hypocritical Christianity of this land. Indeed, I can see no reason but the most deceitful one for calling the religion of this land Christianity…”

  • KingJames 1611 Galatians 4:16 says:

    Slavery needs to be addressed biblically. Answers in Genesis strongly opposes both racism and slavery.
    Some “white”2 Christians have used the Bible to convince themselves that owning slaves is okay and that slaves should obey their “earthly masters.” Regrettably and shamefully, “white” Christians have frequently taken verses of Scripture out of context to justify the most despicable acts. In some cases, it could be argued that these people were not really Christians; they were not really born again but were adhering to a form of Christianity for traditional or national reasons. 
    There are two kinds of slavery described in the Bible:
    1. a servant or bondservant who
    was paid a wage, and the
    enslavement of an individual
    without pay.
    Which types of slavery” did the Bible condemn?

    It is important to note that neither slavery in New Testament times nor slavery under the Mosaic Covenant have anything to do with the sort of slavery where “black” people were bought and sold as property by “white” people in the well-known slave trade of the last few centuries. No “white” Christian should think that he or she could use any slightly positive comment about slavery in this chapter to justify the historic slave trade, which is still a major stain on the histories of both the United States and the UK.
    In other words, they were to treat slaves/servants in a way that they wanted to be treated.
    slaves and masters are addressed in Paul’s epistles.
    The term “slave” in Ephesians 6:5 
    is better translated “bondservant.” The Bible in no way gives full support to the practice of bondservants, who were certainly not paid.

  • These states are filled with great people. False leaders think they can continue controlling these states… by challenging “ public charge. “ When the light is turned on, like roaches they will scatter. Corruption will finally reveal itself.
    Did you think rats only lived in Baltimore ?

  • I may be wrong but…isn't the "new" policy some-what based on a law passed in 1996 (1996 Welfare Bill), supported by numerous Democrats in both houses of congress, passed by both houses of congress, and signed by Bill Clinton? If it was signed by Bill Clinton (and never vetoed), why are the Dem's bitching about it now? Oh, that's right, it fits the narrative that "Trump's a racist".

  • just a little irresponsible to show up at the border of a country with no savings or plan and then expect a handout with no intention of giving back to the land you just started freeloading off of… im a u.k resident hoping to immigrate to the u.s in the next 5 years, if i dont have a 20k nest egg by then im not going… simple.

  • Make up your minds.They either take your jobs or they are on welfare?The racist bigots will come out in full force on this site.

  • Gillis & Associates says:

    2 million immigrants coming in every year who get welfare ? Free health care in Cali, Your saying if your not on welfare, your wealthy? Give me a break.

  • SirMontecristo says:

    I came here legally and if it wasn't for the government aids, it would've been way more difficult. I guess the comparison to other countries only is good when you want it to be on your side, meaning you don't compare other countries' healthcare. The only thing they should do is secure the border and anyone caught sent to a border port of entry to wait for processing.

  • Why do these people want to come here anyway? The Democrats are not taking care of them when they get here, they want to set them free and fend for themselves. Look at San Francisco. Look at all the homeless people, are they really better off then where they came from? They are being used, come here and vote for us then we don’t care what you do!

  • it redefines what the phrase "public charge" means. The president sadly has the power to do that … kinda. The president can be challenged in the courts. Redefining what "public charge" means will effect more than just immigrants. It will effect US born citizens too.

  • Legal immigration is much more expensive for USA than illegal that is why USA allows illegal aliens to be there and limit legal immigration only.
    Legal immigrants just call their aged parents who is in their 60, it is called chain immigration. And, that parents immediately apply for welfare and sit on it until they die receiving expensive healthcare and other candy. They have never worked in USA hence have no pension no medicare.

    Thus, the only way to go to USA these days is illegal immigration. Legal is completely "mission impossible".

  • It's not a Trump policy, it's a law that was passed over 20 years ago, the language or how it should apply is now being enforced.

  • Funny thing, if you as an American wanted to move to let's say Costa Rica or Belize you have to prove income and apply for the Expat Program to live there. Another word, if you can't support yourself you're not living there😉 Wow, what a novel idea🤗

  • We’re talking about Legal Immigrants right? If so, wasn’t this written into law in 1882 and only slowly dissolved with the Obama era? I thought President Trump was simply reinforcing a law that is already in place. Other comments here are quite correct, legal immigrants must go through rigorous checks to ensure they are capable of sustaining themselves and their family, in other words you must have a job lined up and quite often have a sponsor in the country you’re emigrating to, this is the standard throughout the world.

  • Nobody said anything when Obama was shifting left and right with his failed polices. The media defended the leftist like if it was their personally groomed pet.

  • Yet millions and millions of Americans that have full-time jobs still have to depend on government assistance to be able to afford to live. While company owners like Trump need golden toilets. You want to make America great again, put a poor man in as president. With no party affiliation. I will never let a billionaire speak for me or tell me what's best for me. They have absolutely no clue. Just like I have no clue as to what it's like to be a billionaire.

  • Hope Sorrowgrave, The Outcast says:

    I really want to know how this compares to an american trying to get citizenship in the European Union.

  • Aliens want roof over their heads? Well, that's very nice and all, but first you should give roof and shelter to all the homeless Americans that roam the streets of your cities at night. Americans first, and when all American are provided, can you afford to help others. For a wise man once said; before you can save others, you first have to save your self. And that has never been more true than now.

  • Eternity Bliss says:

    You may come to America to get an opportunity to prosper. You may not come to America to live off of people who already have. ♥️🇺🇸

  • What is so wrong with their own countries that they can't protest? Is America so soft and lefty leaning? Or is it that I left the back door open?…

  • Feelings. That is what this is based on from the left. The new rule makes perfect sense monetarily, economically, and mathematically. It is logical and reasonable. It is objective and rational. Except to a democrat who does not possess the capacity to make such distinctions. Only their feelings matter. It is sad and pathetic.

  • The public charge provision (also referred to as “liable” or “likely” to become a public charge, or LPC) was first adopted into federal immigration law in 1882, the same year Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act, which essentially barred Chinese nationals from entering the U.S.

  • Elizabeth Holden says:

    Immigration laws use to specify to that the immigrant have a sponsor who was financially responsible for them till they got on their feet. The immigrant was not allowed to use public assistance or programs except under special circumstances. Sometime in the 70's I believe, that changed. In coming immigrants were allowed access to public assistance and programs without having to have a sponsor or show source of financial support.

  • Illegal immigrants are using birthright children to get eligibility for welfare. They have 6 – 10 children to get more welfare benefits than most Americans make for a salary. This is an invasion and must be stopped.

  • It was up to the ethnic community they were a part of and church groups to help newly arrived immigrants. Pretty much you came and took ANY job available and tried to work your way out of poverty. The government was not in the business of using tax dollars to house, feed, or clothe immigrants. And health care ? LOL…don't make me laugh.
    Early 20th century immigrants came to the U.S. for opportunities. Present day immigrants come largely to live off the taxpayers through various government programs.

  • HAPPY IN HARNED says:

    Legal challenge…really, if I break the law, I go to jail…..these people are illegally here, trespassing, they need to be all rounded up and sent back and refused e trance EVER AGAIN! We have to do somethi ng. And if our military mowed down a couple hundred before they crossed our border, it might deter the trespassers in

  • Give us your wealthy, your whites, your 1%ers yearning to oppress workers. That’s what the Statue of Liberty says, right?

  • Mike Howell is right, when I first got an interview from an American working at the embassy, he asked me what will I do when I get to America? Can I support myself or rather can someone support you? What can you bring to the United States? Americans have the right to bring people who can help America grow, not to add to growing welfare list.

  • Look manifest destiny is over. This country needs less immigration… We don't need tax payer money going to non citizens. We need the safety net to take care of our citizens…

  • It's sad these idiots, on both sides, that run for president. Don't stop to think, her maybe I shouldnt lie about my opponent. Maybe Americans want honesty in office. Could that be why Trump won 2016 and 2020.

  • When Pilgrims came to America they relied on Native American Welfare. The Native Americans gave them land, food, and water but lets chose to forget that, before it was "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free …" now it's give me your rich, your wealthy, your tyrants yearning to be cruel.

  • what are they talking about there are Americans who have a limit to public assistance so what are they talking about and so should they too I'm not paying for them to live here free forever on Public Assistance or I will stop paying in.

  • haha jokes on you trump I moved back to ireland before this. get noob

    o yeah anybody here from Britain. and specifically, liverpool? if so aye where are my fellow europeans uwu

  • Total agree. Illegal imigrants dont need monies from goverment. They pay taxes like everybody else, but only peoples who are AMERICAN and pay taxes shood have acess to stuff that they help fund.

    Wait…that's not what most people are saying, it seems as if most people want TAXPAYERS, not illegal immigrants to get government aid. But that doesn't seem to make sense, because if you are an illegal immigrant, and you are working, you are paying taxes!

    Huh, I guess most people don't understand how taxes work 🙂

  • lol I thought it was a right wing talking point that the immigrants come here and get on welfare. So which is it? do they come here and get on welfare or do they come here and contribute to society?

  • NUNNA URBIZNEZ says:

    In Arizona you MUST prove you are a citizen to receive any assistance. You also MUST work a minimum of 20 hours a week or attend school full time to receive any assistance. The total amount of cash assistance you can receive is $226 a month and/or $279 in food stamps. If you work less than 20 hours a week they require that you do 30 hours a week of job search, school and/or volunteer work. You are required to document each day as well as weekly meetings to prove that you are trying to improve your financial situation. You are also required to provide birth certificates(copies will not be sufficient), drivers liscence, state id or school id as well as all utility bills, rental agreement, and bank statement as proof of residency. They also interview at least 3 referrals to corroborate who lives with you, including your employer as proof you and your children are US citizens. While I know that some things can be falsified, I couldn't even begin to figure out how to bypass this judgement. I don't know if other states have different policies which could be circumvented, but I know AZ would be pushing it pretty far to get benefits anyway. Do the research on your own community to get accurate info on who receives benefits. There is no such thing as a free handout in AZ. Where I live in Tucson, the stats show that the least likely to break a law are Mexican immigrants. They pay money into the community tax base where Trump and people like him exploit obscure tax laws so they can pay nothing. Trump and people like him do not help pay for schools, roads, police/fire response or other infrastructure. Both immigrants working towards becoming citizens, as well as DACA or Dreamers are not elligable for social security or food stamps and other programs but they still are required to pay payroll taxes to support such programs. Please research what is available to others in your community.

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