Omarosa: ‘I Had A Blind Spot Where It Came To Donald Trump’ (Full) | Meet The Press | NBC News

Omarosa: ‘I Had A Blind Spot Where It Came To Donald Trump’ (Full) | Meet The Press | NBC News


SHOW IN TELEVISION HISTORY. THIS IS “MEET THE PRESS” WITH THIS IS “MEET THE PRESS” WITH CHUCK TODD. CHUCK TODD.>>>GOOD SUNDAY MORNING.>>>GOOD SUNDAY MORNING. SHE WAS A REALITY TV STAR WHO SHE WAS A REALITY TV STAR WHO WOUND UP WORKING IN A REALITY TV WOUND UP WORKING IN A REALITY TV STAR’S WHITE HOUSE. STAR’S WHITE HOUSE. BY HER OWN ADMISSION, OMAROSA BY HER OWN ADMISSION, OMAROSA MANIGAULT NEWMAN AND DONALD MANIGAULT NEWMAN AND DONALD TRUMP USED EACH OTHER. TRUMP USED EACH OTHER. SHE WRITES, WE HAD A SYMBIOTIC SHE WRITES, WE HAD A SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP. RELATIONSHIP. I GAVE HIM RATINGS AND HE GAVE I GAVE HIM RATINGS AND HE GAVE ME A WOMAN OF COLOR ME A WOMAN OF COLOR OPPORTUNITIES. OPPORTUNITIES. THAT RELATIONSHIP STARTED ON THAT RELATIONSHIP STARTED ON “THE APPRENTICE” IN 2004 AND “THE APPRENTICE” IN 2004 AND CONTINUED THROUGH A SERIES OF CONTINUED THROUGH A SERIES OF REALITY TV SHOWS. REALITY TV SHOWS.>>I ADORE YOU.>>I ADORE YOU. WE HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS SUCCESS WE HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS SUCCESS TOGETHER. TOGETHER. YOU HELPED MAKE ME A STAR. YOU HELPED MAKE ME A STAR. DENNIS, SHE HELPED TO MAKE ME A DENNIS, SHE HELPED TO MAKE ME A STAR. STAR. BUT OMAROSA, YOU’RE FIRED. BUT OMAROSA, YOU’RE FIRED.>>IN 2016, SHE JOINED THE TRUMP>>IN 2016, SHE JOINED THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AS DIRECTOR OF CAMPAIGN AS DIRECTOR OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN OUTREACH. AFRICAN-AMERICAN OUTREACH. ON THE TRAIL AND SUBSEQUENTLY AS ON THE TRAIL AND SUBSEQUENTLY AS THE MOST SENIOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN THE MOST SENIOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN ON THE WHITE HOUSE STAFF. WOMAN ON THE WHITE HOUSE STAFF. AND SHE BECAME ONE OF MR. AND SHE BECAME ONE OF MR. TRUMP’S MOST VOCAL SUPPORTERS. TRUMP’S MOST VOCAL SUPPORTERS.>>WHEN I SAY TRUMP TRAIN, I>>WHEN I SAY TRUMP TRAIN, I WANT YOU WANT TO SAY CHOO-CHOO. WANT YOU WANT TO SAY CHOO-CHOO. Y’ALL READY? Y’ALL READY? EVERY CRITIC, EVERY DETRACTOR EVERY CRITIC, EVERY DETRACTOR WILL HAVE TO BOW DOWN TO WILL HAVE TO BOW DOWN TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. PRESIDENT TRUMP. I HAD AN HONOR TO TRAVEL AROUND I HAD AN HONOR TO TRAVEL AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH THE PRESIDENT THE COUNTRY WITH THE PRESIDENT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. YOU ALL KNOW HIM AS THE YOU ALL KNOW HIM AS THE PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. I KNOW HIM AS A FRIEND. I KNOW HIM AS A FRIEND. I KNOW HIS HEART. I KNOW HIS HEART.>>BUT SINCE SHE WAS FIRED IN>>BUT SINCE SHE WAS FIRED IN DECEMBER, SHE’S TURNED ON DECEMBER, SHE’S TURNED ON PRESIDENT TRUMP AND NOW IN HER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND NOW IN HER NEW BOOK SHE CALLS HIM A RACIST, NEW BOOK SHE CALLS HIM A RACIST, A BIGOT AND A MISOGYNIST AND A BIGOT AND A MISOGYNIST AND SAID HE’S LOSING HIS MENTAL SAID HE’S LOSING HIS MENTAL FACULTIES. FACULTIES. THE WHITE HOUSE SAID THIS IS THE WHITE HOUSE SAID THIS IS RIDDLED WITH LIES IT’S SAD THAT RIDDLED WITH LIES IT’S SAD THAT A DISGRUNTLED FORMER WHITE HOUSE A DISGRUNTLED FORMER WHITE HOUSE EMPLOYEE IS TRYING TO PROFIT OFF EMPLOYEE IS TRYING TO PROFIT OFF THE FALSE ATTACKS. THE FALSE ATTACKS. AND OMAROSA HAS A RECORDING THAT AND OMAROSA HAS A RECORDING THAT SHE SAYS SHE RECENTLY MADE — SHE SAYS SHE RECENTLY MADE — THAT SHE SECRETLY MADE OF HER THAT SHE SECRETLY MADE OF HER FIRING BY JOHN KELLY. FIRING BY JOHN KELLY.>>WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT>>WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE. LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE. IT’S COME TO MY ATTENTION OVER IT’S COME TO MY ATTENTION OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS THAT THERE’S THE LAST FEW MONTHS THAT THERE’S BEEN SOME PRETTY IN MY OPINION BEEN SOME PRETTY IN MY OPINION SIGNIFICANT INTEGRITY ISSUES. SIGNIFICANT INTEGRITY ISSUES.>>YOU’LL HEAR MORE OF THAT>>YOU’LL HEAR MORE OF THAT RECORDING IN A MOMENT. RECORDING IN A MOMENT. SO OMAROSA MANIGAULT NEWMAN, SO OMAROSA MANIGAULT NEWMAN, FORMER ASSISTANT TO MR. TRUMP FORMER ASSISTANT TO MR. TRUMP JOINS ME NOW. JOINS ME NOW.>>THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME,>>THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, CHUCK. CHUCK.>>WELCOME TO “MEET THE PRESS.”>>WELCOME TO “MEET THE PRESS.” LET ME START WITH WHAT YOU LET ME START WITH WHAT YOU DESCRIBE AS A YEAR LONG EFFORT DESCRIBE AS A YEAR LONG EFFORT TO LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT A RUMOR TO LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT A RUMOR THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN CAUGHT ON TAPE USING THE “N” CAUGHT ON TAPE USING THE “N” WORD ON THE “THE APPRENTICE.” WORD ON THE “THE APPRENTICE.” ON THIS PHONE CONVERSATION I WAS ON THIS PHONE CONVERSATION I WAS TOLD EXACTLY WHAT DONALD TRUMP TOLD EXACTLY WHAT DONALD TRUMP SAID, YES, THE “N” WORD AND SAID, YES, THE “N” WORD AND OTHERS IN A CLASSIC TRUMP GOES OTHERS IN A CLASSIC TRUMP GOES NUCLEAR RANT. NUCLEAR RANT. AND WHEN HE SAID THEM DURING AND WHEN HE SAID THEM DURING PRODUCTION HE WAS MIKED AND PRODUCTION HE WAS MIKED AND THERE’S AN AUDIO TRACK. THERE’S AN AUDIO TRACK. FOR OVER A YEAR I WAS SO AFRAID FOR OVER A YEAR I WAS SO AFRAID OF HEARING THE SPECIFICS OF OF HEARING THE SPECIFICS OF SOMEONE FROM THE ROOM, HEARING SOMEONE FROM THE ROOM, HEARING THE TRUTH FREED FROM THAT FEAR. THE TRUTH FREED FROM THAT FEAR. DID YOU HEAR THE TAPE OR DID YOU DID YOU HEAR THE TAPE OR DID YOU HEAR A DESCRIPTION OF THE TAPE? HEAR A DESCRIPTION OF THE TAPE?>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON. FOR HAVING ME ON. AND IN THIS BOOK, I DESCRIBE AND IN THIS BOOK, I DESCRIBE THIS LONG JOURNEY OF HEARING THIS LONG JOURNEY OF HEARING THESE RUMORS OVER AND OVER THESE RUMORS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AGAIN. AND WHEN I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO AND WHEN I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET UP WITH THREE DIFFERENT MEET UP WITH THREE DIFFERENT SOURCES, THEY DESCRIBED THE SAME SOURCES, THEY DESCRIBED THE SAME EXACT STATEMENTS. EXACT STATEMENTS. AFTER I CLOSED THE BOOK, I HAD AFTER I CLOSED THE BOOK, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT IN LOS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT IN LOS ANGELES AND SIT DOWN WITH THE ANGELES AND SIT DOWN WITH THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY HAS A COPY PERSON WHO ACTUALLY HAS A COPY OF THE TAPE AND I HEARD HIS OF THE TAPE AND I HEARD HIS VOICE AS CLEAR AS YOU AND I ARE VOICE AS CLEAR AS YOU AND I ARE SITTING HERE. SITTING HERE.>>YOU HAVE HEARD THE TAPE?>>YOU HAVE HEARD THE TAPE?>>I HAD HEARD THE TAPE –>>I HAD HEARD THE TAPE –>>SINCE PUBLICATION OF THIS>>SINCE PUBLICATION OF THIS BOOK? BOOK?>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY.>>SO YOU KNOW IT EXISTS?>>SO YOU KNOW IT EXISTS?>>I KNOW IT EXISTS AND WHAT I>>I KNOW IT EXISTS AND WHAT I REGRET IS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE REGRET IS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO LEVERAGE IT AS THIS TRYING TO LEVERAGE IT AS THIS OCTOBER SURPRISE. OCTOBER SURPRISE. I DON’T WANT TO BE A PART OF I DON’T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT. THAT. BUT I HAD HEARD FOR TWO YEARS BUT I HAD HEARD FOR TWO YEARS THAT IT EXISTED AND ONCE I HEARD THAT IT EXISTED AND ONCE I HEARD IT FOR MYSELF IT WAS CONFIRMED IT FOR MYSELF IT WAS CONFIRMED WHAT I FEARED THE MOST — THAT WHAT I FEARED THE MOST — THAT TRUMP IS A CON AND HAS BEEN TRUMP IS A CON AND HAS BEEN MASQUERADING AS SOMEONE WHO IS MASQUERADING AS SOMEONE WHO IS OPEN TO ENGAGING WITH DIVERSE OPEN TO ENGAGING WITH DIVERSE COMMUNITIES. COMMUNITIES. BUT WHEN HE TALKS THAT WAY, THE BUT WHEN HE TALKS THAT WAY, THE WAY HE DID ON THIS TAPE IT WAY HE DID ON THIS TAPE IT CONFIRMED THAT HE IS TRULY A CONFIRMED THAT HE IS TRULY A RACIST. RACIST.>>WHY DIDN’T YOU GET THAT IN>>WHY DIDN’T YOU GET THAT IN YOUR BOOK? YOUR BOOK?>>IT CLOSED TOO SOON AND THIS>>IT CLOSED TOO SOON AND THIS PERSON IS SO AFRAID BECAUSE OF PERSON IS SO AFRAID BECAUSE OF THE FORCES WHO ARE WORKING TO THE FORCES WHO ARE WORKING TO KEEP THIS TAPE FROM COMING OUT. KEEP THIS TAPE FROM COMING OUT. I MEAN, WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT IT I MEAN, WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT IT IN THE FALL OF 2016. IN THE FALL OF 2016. GOT ON A CONFERENCE CALL WITH GOT ON A CONFERENCE CALL WITH KATRINA PIERSON, LYNNE PATTON KATRINA PIERSON, LYNNE PATTON AND JASON MILLER AS YOU WILL SEE AND JASON MILLER AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE BOOK AND THEY ALL IN THE BOOK AND THEY ALL SUSPECTED IT WAS TRUE. SUSPECTED IT WAS TRUE. IN FACT, KATRINA PEARSON, THE IN FACT, KATRINA PEARSON, THE SPOKESWOMAN FOR THE CAMPAIGN SPOKESWOMAN FOR THE CAMPAIGN SAID HE SAID IT. SAID HE SAID IT. IT’S TRUE. IT’S TRUE.>>SHE HEARD HIM SAY IT.>>SHE HEARD HIM SAY IT. SHE DENIED — SHE DENIED –>>I MEAN, SHE KNOWS I HAVE>>I MEAN, SHE KNOWS I HAVE RECEIPTS. RECEIPTS. I THINK SHE SHOULD PROBABLY READ I THINK SHE SHOULD PROBABLY READ THE BOOK FIRST AND THEN HEAR THE BOOK FIRST AND THEN HEAR HERSELF SAYING IT. HERSELF SAYING IT.>>BEFORE LISTENING TO THAT>>BEFORE LISTENING TO THAT TAPE, BEFORE GETTING THE TAPE TAPE, BEFORE GETTING THE TAPE THAT YOU DESCRIBED, HAD YOU — THAT YOU DESCRIBED, HAD YOU — WERE YOU EVER IN HIS PRESENCE WERE YOU EVER IN HIS PRESENCE WHEN HE USED A RACIAL SLUR? WHEN HE USED A RACIAL SLUR?>>YOU KNOW, I WAS IN HIS>>YOU KNOW, I WAS IN HIS PRESENCE WHEN HE SAID PRESENCE WHEN HE SAID INAPPROPRIATE THINGS BUT NEVER INAPPROPRIATE THINGS BUT NEVER USED THE “N” WORD IN MY PRESENCE USED THE “N” WORD IN MY PRESENCE EVER. EVER.>>LET ME MOVE ON.>>LET ME MOVE ON. YOU SAID THAT THE BETRAYAL — YOU SAID THAT THE BETRAYAL — THE IDEA THAT HE MIGHT HAVE USED THE IDEA THAT HE MIGHT HAVE USED THIS WORD, THAT IT WOULD BE THIS THIS WORD, THAT IT WOULD BE THIS BETRAYAL BECAUSE HE MIGHT HAVE BETRAYAL BECAUSE HE MIGHT HAVE USED IT ABOUT YOU. USED IT ABOUT YOU.>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY.>>DO YOU BELIEVE HE USED IT>>DO YOU BELIEVE HE USED IT ABOUT YOU? ABOUT YOU?>>POSSIBLY.>>POSSIBLY. BECAUSE TRUMP TALKS ABOUT BECAUSE TRUMP TALKS ABOUT EVERYONE BEHIND THEIR BACKS. EVERYONE BEHIND THEIR BACKS. HE HAS A NICKNAME FOR EVERYONE HE HAS A NICKNAME FOR EVERYONE IN HIS ADMINISTRATION AND HIS IN HIS ADMINISTRATION AND HIS CIRCLE. CIRCLE. IN FACT, YESTERDAY, ON THIS IN FACT, YESTERDAY, ON THIS MOMENT BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE, MOMENT BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE, THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE ANNIVERSARY OF CHARLOTTESVILLE INSTEAD OF CHARLOTTESVILLE INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT HOW TO UNIFY THE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO UNIFY THE NATION HE ACTUALLY INSULTED ME NATION HE ACTUALLY INSULTED ME BY CALLING ME A LOW LIFE. BY CALLING ME A LOW LIFE. THAT IS A MAN WHO IS INCLINED TO THAT IS A MAN WHO IS INCLINED TO START RACIALLY CHARGED START RACIALLY CHARGED ENGAGEMENT AND USE RACE TO KIND ENGAGEMENT AND USE RACE TO KIND OF STIR UP HIS BASE. OF STIR UP HIS BASE.>>HERE’S WHAT I THINK A LOT OF>>HERE’S WHAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE WITH. WITH. HE HAS SAID A LOT OF RACIAL HE HAS SAID A LOT OF RACIAL THINGS. THINGS. HE SAID A LOT OF RACIAL THINGS HE SAID A LOT OF RACIAL THINGS DURING THE CAMPAIGN CALLING DURING THE CAMPAIGN CALLING MEXICAN RAPISTS. MEXICAN RAPISTS. ATTACKING A FEDERAL JUDGE ATTACKING A FEDERAL JUDGE BECAUSE HE WAS HISPANIC. BECAUSE HE WAS HISPANIC. YOU TALK ABOUT HIS OBSESSION YOU TALK ABOUT HIS OBSESSION WITH THE QUOTE CENTRAL PARK FIVE WITH THE QUOTE CENTRAL PARK FIVE MYTHOLOGY THERE. MYTHOLOGY THERE. WE RE — RETWEETING FALSE CRIME WE RE — RETWEETING FALSE CRIME STATISTICS. STATISTICS. YOU SAID — YOU ACKNOWLEDGE HE YOU SAID — YOU ACKNOWLEDGE HE DID THINGS THAT WERE RACIAL, DID THINGS THAT WERE RACIAL, THAT HE USED RACE TO MANIPULATE THAT HE USED RACE TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE. PEOPLE. YOU HAVE SAID ALL THOSE THINGS YOU HAVE SAID ALL THOSE THINGS AND THEN YOU WROTE THIS IN AND THEN YOU WROTE THIS IN DECEMBER OF 2016. DECEMBER OF 2016. I’M LIVING THE AMERICAN DREAM I’M LIVING THE AMERICAN DREAM BECAUSE OF DONALD TRUMP. BECAUSE OF DONALD TRUMP. LOOK AT THE WEALTH AND THE LOOK AT THE WEALTH AND THE EXPOSURE THAT I HAD. EXPOSURE THAT I HAD. IT’S HARD TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT IT’S HARD TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT DONALD TRUMP DOESN’T LIKE THAT DONALD TRUMP DOESN’T LIKE BLACK PEOPLE AND BLACK WOMEN. BLACK PEOPLE AND BLACK WOMEN.>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY. BEING USED FOR DONALD TRUMP FOR BEING USED FOR DONALD TRUMP FOR SO LONG I WAS LIKE THE FROG IN SO LONG I WAS LIKE THE FROG IN THE HOT WATER. THE HOT WATER. YOU DON’T KNOW THAT YOU’RE IN YOU DON’T KNOW THAT YOU’RE IN THE SITUATION UNTIL IT KEEPS THE SITUATION UNTIL IT KEEPS BUBBLING AND BUBBLING. BUBBLING AND BUBBLING. IT IS CLEAR IN HINDSIGHT BECAUSE IT IS CLEAR IN HINDSIGHT BECAUSE IT’S OF COURSE 20/20. IT’S OF COURSE 20/20. AS I TALK ABOUT IN “UNHINGED” AS I TALK ABOUT IN “UNHINGED” YOU SEE FROM 2003 WHEN I FIRST YOU SEE FROM 2003 WHEN I FIRST MET DONALD TRUMP THE EVOLUTION MET DONALD TRUMP THE EVOLUTION OF A VERY UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP OF A VERY UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HE AND I AND I TALK BETWEEN HE AND I AND I TALK INTIMATELY ABOUT THE THINGS THAT INTIMATELY ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HE SAID. HE SAID. HIS PLEDGE TO DO MORE FOR THE HIS PLEDGE TO DO MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY. HIS — AS I SAID, INVESTMENT IN HIS — AS I SAID, INVESTMENT IN MY OWN CAREER. MY OWN CAREER. BUT WHAT I KNOW NOW I DIDN’T BUT WHAT I KNOW NOW I DIDN’T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF — IN 2003 HAVE THE BENEFIT OF — IN 2003 OR 2004 OR 2010. OR 2004 OR 2010. SO YES, IT IS HINDSIGHT. SO YES, IT IS HINDSIGHT. BUT I WILL SAY THIS TO YOU. BUT I WILL SAY THIS TO YOU. I WAS COMPLICIT WITH THIS WHITE I WAS COMPLICIT WITH THIS WHITE HOUSE DECEIVING THIS NATION. HOUSE DECEIVING THIS NATION. THEY CONTINUE TO DECEIVE THIS THEY CONTINUE TO DECEIVE THIS NATION BY HOW MENTALLY DECLINED NATION BY HOW MENTALLY DECLINED HE IS. HE IS. HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR HIM TO HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR HIM TO PROCESS COMPLEX INFORMATION. PROCESS COMPLEX INFORMATION. HOW HE IS NOT ENGAGED IN SOME OF HOW HE IS NOT ENGAGED IN SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS THAT IMPACTS OUR COUNTRY. THAT IMPACTS OUR COUNTRY. I WAS COMPLICIT AND FOR THAT I I WAS COMPLICIT AND FOR THAT I REGRET. REGRET.>>ONE OF THE MOMENTS COMPLICITY>>ONE OF THE MOMENTS COMPLICITY TOOK PLACE AFTER TOOK PLACE AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE. CHARLOTTESVILLE. THIS IS THE PRESIDENT — THE DAY THIS IS THE PRESIDENT — THE DAY AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE, HE AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE, HE CONDEMNED THE EGREGIOUS DISPLAY CONDEMNED THE EGREGIOUS DISPLAY OF HATRED, BIGOTRY AND VIOLENCE OF HATRED, BIGOTRY AND VIOLENCE ON MANY SIDES. ON MANY SIDES. HE HAD ALREADY USED THE FRAYED HE HAD ALREADY USED THE FRAYED MANY SIDES. MANY SIDES. TWO DAYS LATER YOU WERE ON FOX TWO DAYS LATER YOU WERE ON FOX NEWS DEFENDING HIM. NEWS DEFENDING HIM. HERE’S WHAT YOU SAID. HERE’S WHAT YOU SAID.>>PRESIDENT TRUMP, HE SAID THAT>>PRESIDENT TRUMP, HE SAID THAT HE CONDEMNED THE ACTS. HE CONDEMNED THE ACTS. HE KNEW THAT THEY WERE HE KNEW THAT THEY WERE DISGUSTING AND LOATHSOME. DISGUSTING AND LOATHSOME. BUT HE DID COME OUT UNTIL THE BUT HE DID COME OUT UNTIL THE FACTS WERE KNOWN ABOUT THE FACTS WERE KNOWN ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION AND TODAY HE MADE INVESTIGATION AND TODAY HE MADE A STATEMENT THAT WAS VERY CLEAR A STATEMENT THAT WAS VERY CLEAR AND VERY DECISIVE ABOUT WHERE HE AND VERY DECISIVE ABOUT WHERE HE STOOD ON THESE ACTS. STOOD ON THESE ACTS.>>WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT,>>WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT, OMAROSA? OMAROSA?>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN AS YOU AID — I MEAN AS YOU AID –>>WAS THAT COMPLICIT?>>WAS THAT COMPLICIT?>>TOTALLY COMPLICIT.>>TOTALLY COMPLICIT. IN FACT, I HAD A BLIND SPOT IN FACT, I HAD A BLIND SPOT WHERE IT CAME TO DONALD TRUMP. WHERE IT CAME TO DONALD TRUMP. I WANTED TO SEE THE BEST IN HIM I WANTED TO SEE THE BEST IN HIM AND OBVIOUSLY I FAILED MISERABLY AND OBVIOUSLY I FAILED MISERABLY BECAUSE AFTER THAT HE GETS UP BECAUSE AFTER THAT HE GETS UP AND HE SAYS THAT THERE ARE GOOD AND HE SAYS THAT THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES WHEN HE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DENOUNCING WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DENOUNCING WHAT WE SAW AS CLEARLY RACIST, NAZIS, WE SAW AS CLEARLY RACIST, NAZIS, GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN OF THIS GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN OF THIS COUNTRY. COUNTRY. AND IT’S JUST REALLY DIFFICULT AND IT’S JUST REALLY DIFFICULT TO SEE THAT I WAS SO MUCH A PART TO SEE THAT I WAS SO MUCH A PART OF THIS. OF THIS. AND I ACCEPT AND I ADMIT THAT I AND I ACCEPT AND I ADMIT THAT I WAS. WAS. BUT NOW I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT BUT NOW I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT THAT AS WE ARE CELEBRATING — THAT AS WE ARE CELEBRATING — WELL, ACTUALLY OBSERVING THE WELL, ACTUALLY OBSERVING THE ANNIVERSARY OF CHARLOTTESVILLE ANNIVERSARY OF CHARLOTTESVILLE THAT HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY ACTUALLY TO BRING THE COUNTRY ACTUALLY TO BRING THE COUNTRY TOGETHER. TOGETHER. BUT YOU’LL SEE THAT HE DOESN’T BUT YOU’LL SEE THAT HE DOESN’T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT BECAUSE HE PUTS HIMSELF OVER BECAUSE HE PUTS HIMSELF OVER COUNTRY EVERY DAY. COUNTRY EVERY DAY.>>HERE’S WHAT MANY PEOPLE ARE>>HERE’S WHAT MANY PEOPLE ARE SEEING THOUGH. SEEING THOUGH. THAT AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE YOU THAT AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE YOU DIDN’T RESIGN. DIDN’T RESIGN. AND YES, YOU WANTED TO WORK ON AND YES, YOU WANTED TO WORK ON THE — I THINK HISTORIC BLACK THE — I THINK HISTORIC BLACK COLLEGE INITIATIVE. COLLEGE INITIATIVE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THEN YOU DIDN’T LEAVE AFTER BUT THEN YOU DIDN’T LEAVE AFTER THAT. THAT. YOU DIDN’T LEAVE AFTER HE HAD YOU DIDN’T LEAVE AFTER HE HAD THAT UNFORTUNATE CALL WITH THE THAT UNFORTUNATE CALL WITH THE WIDOW OF THE DEAD SOLDIER. WIDOW OF THE DEAD SOLDIER. YOU DIDN’T LEAVE AFTER HE CALLED YOU DIDN’T LEAVE AFTER HE CALLED KNEELING NFL PLAYERS S.O.B.s. KNEELING NFL PLAYERS S.O.B.s. THIS IS WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE THIS IS WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE NEW YORKER ABOUT YOUR NEW NEW YORKER ABOUT YOUR NEW PERSPECTIVE. PERSPECTIVE. HER REALIZATION ABOUT THE HER REALIZATION ABOUT THE TRUMP’S OUTLOOK APPEARS TO HAVE TRUMP’S OUTLOOK APPEARS TO HAVE EMERGED DURING HER BOOK DEAL. EMERGED DURING HER BOOK DEAL. IT’S A GLACIAL SELF-INTERESTED IT’S A GLACIAL SELF-INTERESTED ONE. ONE. THERE’S MANY PEOPLE HERE THAT THERE’S MANY PEOPLE HERE THAT SAY YOU’RE NOW IDENTIFYING SAY YOU’RE NOW IDENTIFYING HIMSELF AS A RACIST AFTER YOU HIMSELF AS A RACIST AFTER YOU GOT YOUR BOOK DEAL. GOT YOUR BOOK DEAL. THAT DO YOU SAY TO THE THAT DO YOU SAY TO THE CRITICISM? CRITICISM?>>FIRST OF ALL, I NEED TO PUSH>>FIRST OF ALL, I NEED TO PUSH BACK ABOUT THAT. BACK ABOUT THAT. FIRST OF ALL I’M AN AUTHOR. FIRST OF ALL I’M AN AUTHOR. THIS IS MY THIRD BOOK. THIS IS MY THIRD BOOK. I WRITE ABOUT MY LIFE AND SO THE I WRITE ABOUT MY LIFE AND SO THE ASSERTION THAT I WOKE UP AND ASSERTION THAT I WOKE UP AND DECIDED TO WRITE A BOOK WHEN DECIDED TO WRITE A BOOK WHEN IT’S MY THIRD BOOK I HAVE TO IT’S MY THIRD BOOK I HAVE TO PUSH ON THAT. PUSH ON THAT. BUT CERTAINLY I WAS WORKING TO BUT CERTAINLY I WAS WORKING TO TRY TO FIND SOMEONE WHO COULD TRY TO FIND SOMEONE WHO COULD TAKE MY PLACE. TAKE MY PLACE. I WAS THE ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN I WAS THE ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN AT THE TABLE. AT THE TABLE. IF I LEFT, WHICH I DID, WHEN I IF I LEFT, WHICH I DID, WHEN I LEFT, THERE HAS BEEN NO NEW LEFT, THERE HAS BEEN NO NEW APPOINTMENT OF AN APPOINTMENT OF AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN ASSISTANT TO AFRICAN-AMERICAN ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT WHICH MEANS THAT THE PRESIDENT WHICH MEANS THAT PEOPLE ARE MAKING DECISIONS PEOPLE ARE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT US WITHOUT US. ABOUT US WITHOUT US. AND AS I WORKED TO TRY TO FIND AND AS I WORKED TO TRY TO FIND THAT REPLACEMENT, I REALIZED THAT REPLACEMENT, I REALIZED THAT THEY COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THAT THEY COULD CARE LESS ABOUT HAVING AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOICE HAVING AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOICE AT THE TABLE. AT THE TABLE. AND TO THIS DAY, THERE IS NO ONE AND TO THIS DAY, THERE IS NO ONE SERVING IN THAT ADMINISTRATION SERVING IN THAT ADMINISTRATION IN THE ROLE THAT I WAS IN AND IN THE ROLE THAT I WAS IN AND THAT’S A GREAT VOID. THAT’S A GREAT VOID. SO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO JUDGE SO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO JUDGE SHOULD READ THE BOOK FIRST AND SHOULD READ THE BOOK FIRST AND GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST EXAMINE THE JOURNEY THAT I LEAST EXAMINE THE JOURNEY THAT I WAS ON BEFORE MAKING DECISIONS WAS ON BEFORE MAKING DECISIONS AND JUDGMENTS ABOUT MY STORY. AND JUDGMENTS ABOUT MY STORY.>>I HAVE HEARD THE –>>I HAVE HEARD THE –>>THEY SHOULD READ IT FIRST.>>THEY SHOULD READ IT FIRST.>>YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON>>YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON THAT YOU’RE THERE IS TO STAND IN THAT YOU’RE THERE IS TO STAND IN FRONT OF THE RACIAL FREIGHT FRONT OF THE RACIAL FREIGHT TRAIN AND THAT YOU DIDN’T — YOU TRAIN AND THAT YOU DIDN’T — YOU DIDN’T DO THAT. DIDN’T DO THAT. THAT — YOU HAVE ADMITTED THAT THAT — YOU HAVE ADMITTED THAT YOU WERE COMPLICIT — YOU WERE COMPLICIT –>>DESCRIBED MYSELF AS A>>DESCRIBED MYSELF AS A GUARDRAIL IN THE BOOK. GUARDRAIL IN THE BOOK. I’M NOT — I’M NOT –>>WERE YOU A GOOD GUARDRAIL?>>WERE YOU A GOOD GUARDRAIL?>>I GOT BANGED UP A LOT.>>I GOT BANGED UP A LOT. I GOT BANGED UP BY PEOPLE WHO I GOT BANGED UP BY PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THERE SHOULD BE NO THOUGHT THERE SHOULD BE NO AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE ADMINISTRATION AND THEY’RE ADMINISTRATION AND THEY’RE SEEING THE RESULT OF HAVING SEEING THE RESULT OF HAVING ABSOLUTELY NO VOICE. ABSOLUTELY NO VOICE. THAT IT IS IMPACTING THE THAT IT IS IMPACTING THE POLICIES THAT AFFECT OUR POLICIES THAT AFFECT OUR CHILDREN, INNER CITIES, POLICIES CHILDREN, INNER CITIES, POLICIES THAT INFORM ALL THE THINGS THAT THAT INFORM ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN REGARDS TO ARE HAPPENING IN REGARDS TO CRIME. CRIME. PARTICULARLY IN CHICAGO AS WE PARTICULARLY IN CHICAGO AS WE SEE THE DEATHS. SEE THE DEATHS. WITHOUT A VOICE THERE YOU’RE WITHOUT A VOICE THERE YOU’RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THEM GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THEM NEGLECT THE NEEDS OF A COMMUNITY NEGLECT THE NEEDS OF A COMMUNITY THAT REALLY DOES NEED LEADERSHIP THAT REALLY DOES NEED LEADERSHIP RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW.>>ALL RIGHT.>>ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO GO TO YOUR WHITE HOUSE I WANT TO GO TO YOUR WHITE HOUSE COMMENT. COMMENT. WE’LL START ON YOUR LAST DAY. WE’LL START ON YOUR LAST DAY. WERE YOU FIRED OR DID YOU WERE YOU FIRED OR DID YOU RESIGN? RESIGN? WHAT’S THE STORY? WHAT’S THE STORY? WHAT DO WE CALL THIS? WHAT DO WE CALL THIS?>>IT’S PRETTY CLEAR FROM THAT>>IT’S PRETTY CLEAR FROM THAT RECORDING THAT JOHN KELLY CAME RECORDING THAT JOHN KELLY CAME IN AND SAID, THIS IS THE END. IN AND SAID, THIS IS THE END. WE WANT YOU TO LEAVE. WE WANT YOU TO LEAVE. BUT WHAT’S INTERESTING IS THEY BUT WHAT’S INTERESTING IS THEY TAKE ME INTO THE SITUATION ROOM. TAKE ME INTO THE SITUATION ROOM. THE DOORS ARE LOCKED. THE DOORS ARE LOCKED. THEY TELL ME I CAN’T LEAVE. THEY TELL ME I CAN’T LEAVE. AND THEY START TO THREATEN ME. AND THEY START TO THREATEN ME. PUT FEAR IN ME. PUT FEAR IN ME. TO PUT ME UNDER DURESS. TO PUT ME UNDER DURESS.>>LOOK, I WANT TO PLAY THIS>>LOOK, I WANT TO PLAY THIS TAPE. TAPE. I’M CURIOUS, HOW IS IT — YOU I’M CURIOUS, HOW IS IT — YOU RECORDED THE CHIEF OF STAFF — RECORDED THE CHIEF OF STAFF –>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY.>>THE WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF>>THE WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF IN THE SITUATION ROOM. STAFF IN THE SITUATION ROOM.>>YES.>>YES.>>THIS TAKES PLACE BEFORE THE>>THIS TAKES PLACE BEFORE THE CAN — CAN –>>IN THE SITUATION ROOM.>>IN THE SITUATION ROOM.>>YOU PREPARED IN A MOMENT’S>>YOU PREPARED IN A MOMENT’S NOTICE TO RECORD HIM — NOTICE TO RECORD HIM –>>NO, FIRST OF ALL.>>NO, FIRST OF ALL. I’M ON THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN I’M ON THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN THERE. THERE. WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE MEETING WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE MEETING WITH JOHN KELLY WHO’S REFUSED TO WITH JOHN KELLY WHO’S REFUSED TO MEET WITH ME THE WHOLE TIME HE’S MEET WITH ME THE WHOLE TIME HE’S THERE, IN THE SITUATION ROOM, THERE, IN THE SITUATION ROOM, CHUCK, WE’RE NOT GOING IN THERE CHUCK, WE’RE NOT GOING IN THERE TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PARKING TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PARKING OR SCHEDULING ISSUES. OR SCHEDULING ISSUES.>>YOU KNEW THIS WAS –>>YOU KNEW THIS WAS –>>WE’RE GOING IN THERE TO TALK>>WE’RE GOING IN THERE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS. ABOUT SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS.>>YOU’RE PREPARED TO TAPE?>>YOU’RE PREPARED TO TAPE?>>I WAS PREPARED BECAUSE FIRST>>I WAS PREPARED BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL JOHN KELLY HAD BEEN VERY OF ALL JOHN KELLY HAD BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT TRYING TO FIND A VOCAL ABOUT TRYING TO FIND A REASON TO LET ME GO. REASON TO LET ME GO. HE HAD GONE TO THE PRESS INSTEAD HE HAD GONE TO THE PRESS INSTEAD OF COMING TO ME, NEVER GIVING ME OF COMING TO ME, NEVER GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH HIM. AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH HIM. SO THE QUESTION IS WHY NOT HAVE SO THE QUESTION IS WHY NOT HAVE THE MEETING IN THE CHIEF OF THE MEETING IN THE CHIEF OF STAFF’S OFFICE? STAFF’S OFFICE? WHY PUT ME IN THE SITUATION WHY PUT ME IN THE SITUATION ROOM, LOCK THE DOOR AND TELL ME ROOM, LOCK THE DOOR AND TELL ME OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU’LL HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU’LL HEAR HIS PART, THAT I COULDN’T LEAVE. HIS PART, THAT I COULDN’T LEAVE. THAT I COULDN’T CONSULT AN THAT I COULDN’T CONSULT AN ATTORNEY. ATTORNEY. THAT I COULDN’T TALK TO MY THAT I COULDN’T TALK TO MY HUSBAND WHO WAS SITTING OUTSIDE HUSBAND WHO WAS SITTING OUTSIDE OF THE DOOR. OF THE DOOR. YES, I WAS PREPARED. YES, I WAS PREPARED. AND AS YOU’LL SEE IN AND AS YOU’LL SEE IN “UNHINGED” — “UNHINGED” –>>HOW OFTEN DID YOU TAPE>>HOW OFTEN DID YOU TAPE PEOPLE? PEOPLE?>>WAIT, CHUCK.>>WAIT, CHUCK. IN “UNHINGED” I PROTECTED IN “UNHINGED” I PROTECTED MYSELF. MYSELF. BECAUSE THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE WHERE EVERYBODY LIES. WHERE EVERYBODY LIES. THE PRESIDENT LIES TO THE THE PRESIDENT LIES TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AMERICAN PEOPLE. SARAH HUCKABEE LIES EVERY SINGLE SARAH HUCKABEE LIES EVERY SINGLE DAY. DAY. YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OWN BACK YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OWN BACK BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU’LL LOOK BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU’LL LOOK BACK AND SEE 17 KNIVES IN YOUR BACK AND SEE 17 KNIVES IN YOUR BACK. BACK.>>IT LOOKS –>>IT LOOKS –>>IT’S NOT DISLOYALTY.>>IT’S NOT DISLOYALTY. LET ME TELL YOU, CHUCK, IF I DID LET ME TELL YOU, CHUCK, IF I DID NOT HAVE THIS RECORDING, PEOPLE NOT HAVE THIS RECORDING, PEOPLE WOULD STILL BELIEVE THE FALSE WOULD STILL BELIEVE THE FALSE INCREDIBLE STORY THAT I WAS INCREDIBLE STORY THAT I WAS RUNNING AROUND THE WHITE RUNNING AROUND THE WHITE HOUSE — THE FALSE STORY THAT HOUSE — THE FALSE STORY THAT WAS TOLD BY A REPORTER AND WAS TOLD BY A REPORTER AND REPEATED BY THIS NETWORK AND REPEATED BY THIS NETWORK AND OTHER REPORTERS THAT I TRIED TO OTHER REPORTERS THAT I TRIED TO CHARGE THE RESIDENCE AT THE CHARGE THE RESIDENCE AT THE WHITE HOUSE. WHITE HOUSE. THAT’S A LIE. THAT’S A LIE. IF I DIDN’T HAVE THIS RECORDING, IF I DIDN’T HAVE THIS RECORDING, LISTEN, PEOPLE WOULD STILL THINK LISTEN, PEOPLE WOULD STILL THINK THAT I WAS TRYING TO SET OFF THAT I WAS TRYING TO SET OFF ALARMS. ALARMS. SO YES, I HAD TO PROTECT MYSELF SO YES, I HAD TO PROTECT MYSELF AND I HAVE NO REGRET ABOUT IT. AND I HAVE NO REGRET ABOUT IT.>>LET’S LISTEN TO THE>>LET’S LISTEN TO THE RECORDING. RECORDING.>>I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO>>I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE MAKE THIS UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE MAKE THIS A FRIENDLY DEPARTURE, WE CAN ALL A FRIENDLY DEPARTURE, WE CAN ALL BE — YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT BE — YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR TIME HERE IN THE WHITE YOUR TIME HERE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AS A YEAR OF SERVICE TO HOUSE AS A YEAR OF SERVICE TO THE NATION. THE NATION. AND THEN YOU CAN GO ON WITHOUT AND THEN YOU CAN GO ON WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF DIFFICULTY IN THE ANY TYPE OF DIFFICULTY IN THE FUTURE RELATIVE TO YOUR FUTURE RELATIVE TO YOUR REPUTATION. REPUTATION.>>HOW DID YOU TAKE THAT COMMENT>>HOW DID YOU TAKE THAT COMMENT ABOUT YOUR REPUTATION? ABOUT YOUR REPUTATION?>>IT’S VERY OBVIOUS A THREAT.>>IT’S VERY OBVIOUS A THREAT. HE GOES ON TO SAY THAT THINGS HE GOES ON TO SAY THAT THINGS CAN GET UGLY FOR YOU. CAN GET UGLY FOR YOU. THE CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE UNITED THE CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE UNITED STATES UNDER THE DIRECTION OF STATES UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THREATENING ME ON DAMAGE STATES THREATENING ME ON DAMAGE TO MY REPUTATION AND THINGS TO MY REPUTATION AND THINGS GETTING UGLY FOR ME. GETTING UGLY FOR ME. THAT’S DOWNRIGHT CRIMINAL. THAT’S DOWNRIGHT CRIMINAL. IF I DIDN’T HAVE THE RECORDINGS IF I DIDN’T HAVE THE RECORDINGS NO ONE IN AMERICA WOULD BELIEVE NO ONE IN AMERICA WOULD BELIEVE ME. ME. SO I PROTECTED AND I’M GOING TO SO I PROTECTED AND I’M GOING TO TELL YOU I’M SO GLAD I DID. TELL YOU I’M SO GLAD I DID. WE CAN PUT TO BED ALL THE FALSE WE CAN PUT TO BED ALL THE FALSE RUMORS THAT THAT ONE REPORTER RUMORS THAT THAT ONE REPORTER STATED AND THE FALSE REPORTS STATED AND THE FALSE REPORTS SPREAD AROUND BY THE MEDIA. SPREAD AROUND BY THE MEDIA.>>ALL RIGHT.>>ALL RIGHT. LET ME PLAY THE PORTION WHERE LET ME PLAY THE PORTION WHERE YOU JUMP IN AND HAVE A YOU JUMP IN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH — CONVERSATION WITH –>>CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE>>CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? IS THE PRESIDENT AWARE OF THIS? IS THE PRESIDENT AWARE OF THIS?>>LET’S NO GO DOWN THE ROAD.>>LET’S NO GO DOWN THE ROAD. THIS IS A NON-NEGOTIABLE THIS IS A NON-NEGOTIABLE DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION.>>I NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO TALK>>I NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU, GENERAL KELLY. TO YOU, GENERAL KELLY. SO IF THIS IS MY DEPARTURE I SO IF THIS IS MY DEPARTURE I WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND — UNDERSTAND –>>WE CAN TALK ANOTHER TIME.>>WE CAN TALK ANOTHER TIME. THIS HAS TO DO WITH SERIOUS THIS HAS TO DO WITH SERIOUS INTEGRITY VIOLATIONS SO I’LL LET INTEGRITY VIOLATIONS SO I’LL LET IT GO AT THAT. IT GO AT THAT. THIS STAFF AND EVERYONE ON THIS THIS STAFF AND EVERYONE ON THIS STAFF WORKS FOR ME, NOT THE STAFF WORKS FOR ME, NOT THE PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT.>>YOU HAVE MADE NO BONES>>YOU HAVE MADE NO BONES ABOUT — YOU HAVE A LOT OF ABOUT — YOU HAVE A LOT OF TAPES. TAPES.>>WAIT.>>WAIT. HE JUST SAID THE STAFF AND HE JUST SAID THE STAFF AND EVERYBODY WORKS FOR HIM, NOT THE EVERYBODY WORKS FOR HIM, NOT THE PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. YOU DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, CHUCK? THAT, CHUCK?>>FOR WHAT IT’S WORTH, MANY>>FOR WHAT IT’S WORTH, MANY WHITE HOUSES ARE LIKE THAT. WHITE HOUSES ARE LIKE THAT.>>DONALD TRUMP HAS NO IDEA>>DONALD TRUMP HAS NO IDEA WHAT’S GOING ON IN THE WHITE WHAT’S GOING ON IN THE WHITE HOUSE. HOUSE.>>HE DID NOT KNOW THAT MINUTE>>HE DID NOT KNOW THAT MINUTE THAT YOU — THAT YOU –>>NO, I KNOW HE KNOWS BECAUSE I>>NO, I KNOW HE KNOWS BECAUSE I HAVE TALKED TO HIM SUBSEQUENTLY. HAVE TALKED TO HIM SUBSEQUENTLY. HE SAID HE DELEGATED. HE SAID HE DELEGATED. I DELEGATED. I DELEGATED. SO HE KNEW. SO HE KNEW. HE KNEW THAT JOHN KELLY WAS HE KNEW THAT JOHN KELLY WAS GOING TO TAKE ME INTO THE GOING TO TAKE ME INTO THE SITUATION ROOM AND LOCK ME IN SITUATION ROOM AND LOCK ME IN THERE, THREATEN ME AND SAY THAT THERE, THREATEN ME AND SAY THAT THINGS WERE GOING TO GET UGLY THINGS WERE GOING TO GET UGLY FOR ME. FOR ME. THERE WOULD BE DAMAGE TO ME THERE WOULD BE DAMAGE TO ME REPUTATION, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE REPUTATION, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE NEXT DAY THERE WAS DAMAGE TO MY NEXT DAY THERE WAS DAMAGE TO MY REPUTATION BECAUSE THEY USED AND REPUTATION BECAUSE THEY USED AND EXPLOITED AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN EXPLOITED AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN REPORTER TO SAY I WAS RUNNING REPORTER TO SAY I WAS RUNNING AROUND THE RESIDENCE AND TRYING AROUND THE RESIDENCE AND TRYING TO BREAK INTO THE CHRISTMAS TO BREAK INTO THE CHRISTMAS PARTY WHICH IS LUDICROUS, CHUCK. PARTY WHICH IS LUDICROUS, CHUCK. IT IS UNACCEPTABLE. IT IS UNACCEPTABLE. THAT’S THE WAY THESE FOLKS THAT’S THE WAY THESE FOLKS OPERATE. OPERATE. WHEN HE SAID THAT PEOPLE ANSWER WHEN HE SAID THAT PEOPLE ANSWER TO HIM AND NOT THE PRESIDENT, TO HIM AND NOT THE PRESIDENT, THAT SHOULD BE CONCERNING FOR THAT SHOULD BE CONCERNING FOR EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN THAT HEARS EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN THAT HEARS ABOUT THIS. ABOUT THIS.>>LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE>>LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE INTEGRITY ISSUES THAT HE BROUGHT INTEGRITY ISSUES THAT HE BROUGHT UP. UP. IF THE WHITE HOUSE ASKED FOR IF THE WHITE HOUSE ASKED FOR PERMISSION TO RELEASE YOUR PERMISSION TO RELEASE YOUR FILE — FILE –>>I WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO DO>>I WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO DO IT. IT. I’M SAYING THIS LIGHT RIGHT HERE I’M SAYING THIS LIGHT RIGHT HERE ON “MEET THE PRESS” — ON “MEET THE PRESS” –>>RELEASE THE HR FILE OF>>RELEASE THE HR FILE OF WHATEVER VIOLATION — WHATEVER VIOLATION –>>PLEASE, LET’S BRING IT ALL TO>>PLEASE, LET’S BRING IT ALL TO LIGHT. LIGHT. I’M SAYING RIGHT HERE ON “MEET I’M SAYING RIGHT HERE ON “MEET THE PRESS,” YOU TOOK A CAR TO THE PRESS,” YOU TOOK A CAR TO THE NATIONAL BASEBALL GAME — THE NATIONAL BASEBALL GAME –>>SO IF THE WHITE HOUSE>>SO IF THE WHITE HOUSE RELEASED THE — RELEASED THE –>>RELEASE IT.>>RELEASE IT. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.>>TRANSGRESSION THAT JOHN>>TRANSGRESSION THAT JOHN KELLY — KELLY –>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE IN THE SAME BREATH, ROB BECAUSE IN THE SAME BREATH, ROB PORTER IS ACCUSED OF ALLEGEDLY PORTER IS ACCUSED OF ALLEGEDLY ABUSING HIS WIVES AND YOU KNOW ABUSING HIS WIVES AND YOU KNOW WHAT KELLY SAID, HE’S A MAN OF WHAT KELLY SAID, HE’S A MAN OF GREAT INTEGRITY. GREAT INTEGRITY. HE’S ACCUSING ME OF INTEGRITY HE’S ACCUSING ME OF INTEGRITY VIOLATIONS. VIOLATIONS. I’M SAYING, PLEASE RELEASE IT SO I’M SAYING, PLEASE RELEASE IT SO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEE I THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEE I WORKED MY BUTT OFF TO WORK FOR WORKED MY BUTT OFF TO WORK FOR THE COUNTRY AND THEY WERE THE COUNTRY AND THEY WERE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO FRAME ME AND LOOKING FOR WAYS TO FRAME ME AND THEY TRIED TO BUY OFF MY SILENCE THEY TRIED TO BUY OFF MY SILENCE WHICH IS ALSO UNLAWFUL. WHICH IS ALSO UNLAWFUL.>>I WANT TO GET TO THAT IN A>>I WANT TO GET TO THAT IN A SECOND. SECOND. BUT THE DAILY BEAST IN 2017 — BUT THE DAILY BEAST IN 2017 –>>ARE WE REALLY QUOTING THE>>ARE WE REALLY QUOTING THE DAILY BEAST ON “MEET THE PRESS”? DAILY BEAST ON “MEET THE PRESS”?>>I WANT TO ASK YOU THIS.>>I WANT TO ASK YOU THIS. IT SAYS YOU WERE CALLED THE MOST IT SAYS YOU WERE CALLED THE MOST DESPISED PERSON IN THE WHITE DESPISED PERSON IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THAT YOU’D HIJACK THE HOUSE, THAT YOU’D HIJACK THE WHITE HOUSE. WHITE HOUSE. COULD THAT BE WHY JOHN KELLY COULD THAT BE WHY JOHN KELLY FIRED YOU? FIRED YOU?>>AT LEAST THEY DIDN’T CALL ME>>AT LEAST THEY DIDN’T CALL ME THE COFFEE GIRL. THE COFFEE GIRL. THAT’S THE GO TO EXCUSE WHEN THAT’S THE GO TO EXCUSE WHEN THEY MISTREAT PEOPLE. THEY MISTREAT PEOPLE. PEOPLE DESPISE THAT I WAS CLOSE PEOPLE DESPISE THAT I WAS CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT THAT I HAD TO THE PRESIDENT THAT I HAD ACCESS TO HIM, THAT I TALKED TO ACCESS TO HIM, THAT I TALKED TO HIM OFTEN AND INFLUENCED HIS HIM OFTEN AND INFLUENCED HIS POLICY MAKING. POLICY MAKING. LY ADMIT TO YOU THERE WERE — I LY ADMIT TO YOU THERE WERE — I WILL ADMIT TO YOU THAT TIMES WILL ADMIT TO YOU THAT TIMES THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD ASK ME THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD ASK ME TO DO THINGS THAT WERE BIZARRE. TO DO THINGS THAT WERE BIZARRE. HE SAID, GO PULL AN ARTICLE HE SAID, GO PULL AN ARTICLE ABOUT JOE SCARBOROUGH AND MIKA. ABOUT JOE SCARBOROUGH AND MIKA. HE WAS WORKING AROUND THE PEOPLE HE WAS WORKING AROUND THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD — WHO WOULD –>>AND THE NEGATIVE COVERAGE –>>AND THE NEGATIVE COVERAGE –>>WHEN THE PRESIDENT CALLS YOU>>WHEN THE PRESIDENT CALLS YOU AND SAYS GET THIS AND THAT FOR AND SAYS GET THIS AND THAT FOR YOU, YES, I DID IT. YOU, YES, I DID IT. YES, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE YES, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE FEEDING HIM THE THINGS HE’S FEEDING HIM THE THINGS HE’S ASKED FOR, BECAUSE HE’S THE ASKED FOR, BECAUSE HE’S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. WHEN HE CALLS AND ASKS, YOU WHEN HE CALLS AND ASKS, YOU ANSWER. ANSWER.>>YOU TALKED ABOUT YOU WERE>>YOU TALKED ABOUT YOU WERE OFFERED A JOB ON THE CAMPAIGN. OFFERED A JOB ON THE CAMPAIGN. YOU HAVE SHOWN ME THE E-MAIL YOU HAVE SHOWN ME THE E-MAIL OFFER, I HAVE READ THE OFFER OFFER, I HAVE READ THE OFFER THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM LARA THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM LARA TRUMP. TRUMP.>>IT WASN’T FROM LARA TRUMP.>>IT WASN’T FROM LARA TRUMP. IT WAS E-MAILED FROM THE IT WAS E-MAILED FROM THE CAMPAIGN. CAMPAIGN.>>FROM THE CAMPAIGN.>>FROM THE CAMPAIGN.>>YES.>>YES.>>AND I WANT TO PUT UP THE>>AND I WANT TO PUT UP THE NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT HERE. NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT HERE. IT IS A VERY STRINGENT ONE. IT IS A VERY STRINGENT ONE. IT SAID THIS, THE NO IT SAID THIS, THE NO DISPARAGEMENT CLAUSE DURING THE DISPARAGEMENT CLAUSE DURING THE TERM OF YOUR SERVICE AND AFTER, TERM OF YOUR SERVICE AND AFTER, YOU AGREE NOT TO DISPARAGE THE YOU AGREE NOT TO DISPARAGE THE CAMPAIGN. CAMPAIGN. MR. TRUMP, MR. PENCE. MR. TRUMP, MR. PENCE. ANY TRUMP OR PENCE COMPANY. ANY TRUMP OR PENCE COMPANY. ANY TRUMP OR PENCE FAMILY ANY TRUMP OR PENCE FAMILY MEMBER. MEMBER. ANY TRUMP OR PENCE FAMILY MEMBER ANY TRUMP OR PENCE FAMILY MEMBER COMPANY OR AN ASSET, ANY OF THE COMPANY OR AN ASSET, ANY OF THE FOREGOING — BY THE WAY TO AVOID FOREGOING — BY THE WAY TO AVOID ANY DOUBT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE ANY DOUBT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAPH, YOU AGREE THAT THIS SHALL GRAPH, YOU AGREE THAT THIS SHALL SURVIVE THE TERMINATION OF THIS SURVIVE THE TERMINATION OF THIS AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH 10. 10. DID YOU THINK THEY WERE OFFERING DID YOU THINK THEY WERE OFFERING YOU A REAL JOB ON THE CAMPAIGN YOU A REAL JOB ON THE CAMPAIGN OR DID THEY WANT YOU TO SIGN OR DID THEY WANT YOU TO SIGN THIS AGREEMENT? THIS AGREEMENT?>>THEY WERE NOT OFFERING A REAL>>THEY WERE NOT OFFERING A REAL JOB. JOB. THEY TOLD ME I COULD WORK FROM THEY TOLD ME I COULD WORK FROM HOME IF I WANTED TO WORK. HOME IF I WANTED TO WORK. THEY DIDN’T REALLY CARE IF I THEY DIDN’T REALLY CARE IF I SHOWED UP. SHOWED UP. IN FACT, THERE ARE SEVERAL IN FACT, THERE ARE SEVERAL FORMER EMPLOYEES FROM THE WHITE FORMER EMPLOYEES FROM THE WHITE HOUSE WHO ACTUALLY SIGNED THIS HOUSE WHO ACTUALLY SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT. AGREEMENT. WHO ARE ALL BEING PAID $15,000 WHO ARE ALL BEING PAID $15,000 FOR THEIR SILENCE. FOR THEIR SILENCE. THE ONLY REASON “UNHINGED” — THE ONLY REASON “UNHINGED” –>>YOU BELIEVE ALL THE PEOPLE ON>>YOU BELIEVE ALL THE PEOPLE ON THE CAMPAIGN ARE BEING — THAT THE CAMPAIGN ARE BEING — THAT LEFT THE WEST WING OF THE LEFT THE WEST WING OF THE CAMPAIGN ARE BEING BOUGHT OFF? CAMPAIGN ARE BEING BOUGHT OFF?>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY. THE CAMPAIGN THE RNC AND WHICH THE CAMPAIGN THE RNC AND WHICH IS WHY SEAN SPICER DESCRIBED THE IS WHY SEAN SPICER DESCRIBED THE PRESIDENT AS A UNICORN JUMPING PRESIDENT AS A UNICORN JUMPING OVER RAINBOWS. OVER RAINBOWS. HE SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT. HE SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT.>>YOU READ “THE ART OF THE>>YOU READ “THE ART OF THE DEAL” AND HE SAID THE FINAL KEY DEAL” AND HE SAID THE FINAL KEY IS THE WAY I PROMOTE IS BRA HAVE IS THE WAY I PROMOTE IS BRA HAVE A DOE. A DOE. I CALL IT WHY BER BOLEY. I CALL IT WHY BER BOLEY. WHEN YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP WHEN YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP CHEWING UP A PIECE OF PAIN, IS CHEWING UP A PIECE OF PAIN, IS THIS HYPERBOLE? THIS HYPERBOLE?>>NO, PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASKING>>NO, PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASKING WHAT DID DONALD TRUMP AND WHAT DID DONALD TRUMP AND MICHAEL COHEN DISCUSS TO MAKE MICHAEL COHEN DISCUSS TO MAKE HIM SO IRRITATED TO RIP UP THE HIM SO IRRITATED TO RIP UP THE PAPER THAT WAS IN FRONT OF HIM PAPER THAT WAS IN FRONT OF HIM AND THEN PUT IT IN HIS MOUTH? AND THEN PUT IT IN HIS MOUTH? THAT’S THE QUESTION THAT THE THAT’S THE QUESTION THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD BE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASKING. ASKING. WHAT WENT DOWN IN THE OVAL WHAT WENT DOWN IN THE OVAL OFFICE. OFFICE.>>ALL RIGHT.>>ALL RIGHT. WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE BOOK? AWAY FROM THE BOOK?>>I NEED PERSON TO UNDERSTAND>>I NEED PERSON TO UNDERSTAND MY JOURNEY. MY JOURNEY. I TALK ABOUT GROWING UP IN THE I TALK ABOUT GROWING UP IN THE PROJECTS, I TALK ABOUT MY FATHER PROJECTS, I TALK ABOUT MY FATHER BEING MURDERED. BEING MURDERED. MY BEAUTIFUL MOTHER WHO ALLOWED MY BEAUTIFUL MOTHER WHO ALLOWED ME TO GO ON AND GET EDUCATED AND ME TO GO ON AND GET EDUCATED AND LIVE AN INCREDIBLE LIFE. LIVE AN INCREDIBLE LIFE. THIS STORY ISN’T A STORY THAT THIS STORY ISN’T A STORY THAT YOU WOULD HEAR IF IN FACT I YOU WOULD HEAR IF IN FACT I SIGNED THAT AGREEMENT. SIGNED THAT AGREEMENT. THIS IS A STORY THAT YOU HAVE TO THIS IS A STORY THAT YOU HAVE TO HEAR BECAUSE IT’S THE EMBODIMENT HEAR BECAUSE IT’S THE EMBODIMENT OF THE AMERICAN DREAM. OF THE AMERICAN DREAM.>>DO YOU REGRET AUDITIONING FOR>>DO YOU REGRET AUDITIONING FOR “THE APPRENTICE”? “THE APPRENTICE”?>>NO, IT CHANGED MY LIFE.>>NO, IT CHANGED MY LIFE. I WOULDN’T HAVE GOTTEN A CHANCE I WOULDN’T HAVE GOTTEN A CHANCE TO KNOW YOU AND OTHERS IN MY TO KNOW YOU AND OTHERS IN MY LIFE. LIFE. I DON’T REGRET IT OUT ALL.

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100 thoughts on “Omarosa: ‘I Had A Blind Spot Where It Came To Donald Trump’ (Full) | Meet The Press | NBC News”

  • You'd have to be a raging narcissist for you not to know what was going on until having the benefit of hindsight. Give me a break.

  • Simone de Silvestro says:

    Horrible woman, i think Trump really like her aggressiveness, boldness and probably intellectual but he was so wrong. To say Trump is using her is overstatement, Trump is using basically using everybody and all Presidents and bosses do that. if Trump would wanna to prove to the public that he is not racist by bringing a black woman into the house, he probably bring in a less slyful one so that he can easier manipulate them. But no, Trump is arrogant, he would want a super team that can help him and he saw something in her. In business perspective, big time businessmen use talented people around the country to help them grow their businesses, it may not mean the boss will like them in person, but rather appreciate their gift. The employee is yet just another machine to them. In this context I would call her a low life too. She came in with a agenda for helping her community and its so wrong becos America isn't about her Or whose community. She failed to see the big picture.
    If You had come in with dignity, walk out with dignity, all these aftermath negative reporting and secret voice taping said so much about your personality.

  • If she didn't get fired, will she have come out and say something? But she's still my woman crush all day. I admire her strength.

  • you did NOt have any blind spot Heffa, you thought he was going to do something for your black butt that he wouldn't do for anyone of color.. are you kidding me with this BS?

  • Judith had to go in battle behind the scene. Israelite's please stop shooting your messenger's they are all not rich but GOD USES WHOM YOU LEAST EXPECT! Look in LOW PLACES THERE IS ALSO, ALSO SOMEONE HIGH! KANYE IS APART OF THIS STATEMENT! EVERYONE MAKE"S MISTAKE'S> BUT HINDSIGHT HINDSIGHT IS EVERYTHING> SOME HAVE FORETHOUGHT> BUT NO THOUGHT IS THE IGNORANCE OF A STIFF NECK> PEOPLE THUS SAYS THE LORD

  • It is sooo obvious that Chuck brought her on the show to make a mockery of her It is clear he has a bias towards her Omarosa is a brilliant woman no matter what "from the projects to the Whitehouse " first the Clinton Whitehouse to standout tv star to author to the current Whitehouse Her credentials are remarkable and impressive no matter what you think of her

  • Well done Omarosa!!!!
    Expose this deranged, dotard, demagogue Donald Dumb to such an extent that he gets frenzied and unfit to continue as POTUS and republicans will have no choice but to throw out this monster…

  • For the people that can't understand what she's saying. She said, she started to be suspicious and that's when she's stated to record every meeting she goesto. Come on people read and listen. 😧

  • There is clearly vengeance on her actions, but talks with facts and her bravado is if not admirable, at least respectable.

  • Omarosa helped Donald Trump to be a Star and Donald Trump has fired her, now that Donald Trump helped made Omarosa a Star, She's now ready to Fire Donald Trump…You go girl.
    Booom! Donald Trump is now been Back Fired.

  • Omarosa didn't hear nothing, she's lying. She believes by saying Trump used the "N" word her book will soar and maybe it will. None of this would have come out if she was still employed at the white house. She says she had a blind spot when it came to Donald Trump, well he also had a blind when when it came to her. And didn't she say on Good morning Omarosa she left on her own? Now she has tapes saying she was terminated. So Omarosa you are a liar. This is all for her personal gain. Bye Felicia.

  • Manuel Moraleda says:

    "The tree of liberty has to be nourished occasionally by the blood of martyrs and tyrants" – President Thomas Jefferson.
    She took a lot of risk to record and expose the truth. The voice recorder doesn't lie !

  • She is a walking BLIND SPOT..who clearly allowed Trump to sucker her into his game. She is obviously very NAIVE and very unworldly knowing little about people and the games that people will and do play. That she could not see Trump for the CON that he is bespeaks of how massively naive she really is. She suffers from being an opportunist who actually believed that she was part of something that really never existed…except for only in her mind. She displayed all of these elements in her interview on THE VIEW. It was easy to see right then that she was being seduced by Trump's Cons. It's quite amazing that it took her this long to have an "awakening" about all of the illegal things that were going on in the White House with all participants. She wanted to believe everyone was honest at these highest levels when they were not even close to being honest in any way, shape, or form.

  • Les_smore ___smore says:

    I like how she answers it’s very straight forward and she always look into the other person’s eyes without looking elsewhere (very minimal if so) which makes her statements looks credible and real. Either she’s telling the truth, she’s a very good liar or a very good actress.

  • As quick witted this woman is you would think she would have researched that the person she's working with might be racist. Is this a fire back for getting fired? Did she get fooled?

  • I really admire her. She always handles interviews with class.
    She might seem a little nasty, but she does it in a nice way. She is a badass.

  • Theresa Manning says:

    In a long time trump look at you as a low life he used you as said he is a con man this man is evil its good that you are out before it's too late

  • Why would any legitimate reporter want to interview Omaroso?
    Oh, wait a minute, this news "man?" is Chuck Todd; never mind.
    Why doesn't he ask her whether she got the estate of Michale Clarke Duncan
    away from Duncan's family?

  • she never could keep her stories straight…vp gore dumped her to commerce dept..by their public admission, commerce couldnt wait to get rid of her!!
    not 6 mos later..omarosa who???

  • lowlife is racist? she's saying lowlife only applies to blacks! black & hispanic unemployment lowest EVER. what a butt-hurt she is!….omarosa WHO? lol lol

  • avocados and almond's says:

    Yes this is an old video. But how many Latinos, Native Americans, Asians, etc. Have a seat in the white house??

  • ronnythemenace says:

    Incredible how many believes this cunning woman when it's that obvious! Just listen to how she twists and turns any statements to her own benefit. Her background with her history of previous employment. You have to pretty dumb to believe these lies! 🙂

  • She's just as bad as the rest of those whom she criticises; she's in it for herself.She says she's concerned about the American people; what she means is, only the African American sector. She has no actual loyalties to anyone she is all about dollar signs$$$. Since her new husband is a liberal pastor who was involved in the Jesse Jackson presidential campaign in the 80s, he also helped out in the 2008 Obama campaign. So of course omarosa
    Is changing sides so she can get the support back from African Americans that didn't like her for working for Trump. In her book she even admits that she had been saving recordings since the start of the Trump campaign. Some African Americans will be convinced that she was acting as a sort of spy the whole time and never even liked Trump. She's a smart ,conniving ,manipulative and dangerous person. She's getting so confident and full of herself that she's telling everything about herself lately and her former experiences .when you go out of your way to cause trouble for others it's usually going to come back in some form or another and bite you right in the butt ! Watch and see.

  • It is amazing to me how people keep asking "this happened, and that happened and you didn't leave…you stayed" Well…have you EVER been on a job or had a job leading to your career when things weren't right? Of course! Every single person who has ever had a job has worked under these conditions before! So paleez just stop it! She stayed and YOU stayed because of the money until you can find something better that pays the bills!!!!!

  • Dennis Richardson says:

    Much more likely you have a blind spot of IDOLATRY that rationalizes your covetousness, envy and theft sins. Your pagan god is the democratic party. Nobody including you will enter into the Kingdom of God by your IDOLATRIES.

  • Shes reminds me of one thos that was raised in a terrible environment. Now she cagey. A dirty rotten person. Your time is coming.

  • It was inappropriate to hire her in the first place and they sound pretty reasonable about letting her go. Nor is it legal to make a secret recording in the sit room.

  • Tony Anastasio says:

    I'd lock you in a room too, Omarosa . I'd kiss you all over and snog your face off xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

  • This reporter hates that she is not blaming victim, telling a sob story and preaching about equality. This woman acted in agency, intelligence and poise. She did what she needed to do! She watched her own back and works for herself.

  • The fact she was working in the White House at all is the biggest example of Trumps incompetents, even with the recording nobody cared changed nothing

  • The reason I believe she is a sell out and now just being vindictive are as follows: in prior interviews, when she had plenty of tapes in her posession, she stayed with the White House, bragged on Trump, even said the World would bow to him. Only when they were done using her as the "token black," did she want to release all these tapes. If she had quit and not been a little less quiet about her, "so-called" friend would her books been worth listening too. Now it's just simple rubbish from an angry black woman.

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