Morning Joe Panel Debates Ben Shapiro And Free Speech On Campuses | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Morning Joe Panel Debates Ben Shapiro And Free Speech On Campuses | Morning Joe | MSNBC


>>THASTUMPED ME.>>YOU DIDN’T WATCH LAVERNE AND SHIRLEY?>>OF COURSE.>>WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS. QUICKLY, THIS IS A POTPOURRI. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THE INDIANS NEXT. IT LOOKS LIKE THE BERKELEY POLICE FROM EVERYTHING I’VE SEEN DID A FANTASTIC JOB. THEY DIDN’T BOW DOWN TO VIOLENCE. THEY DIDN’T, I KNOW IN ONE EVENT. THEY TURNED OVER A PARK TO SOME VIOLENT AGITATORS. APPARENTLY, THEY DID A GREAT JOB LAST NIGHT. SO CONSERVATIVES AT BERKLEY COULD ACTUALLY HEAR A CONSERVATIVE SPEAKER WITHOUT HAVING WINDOWS SMASHED IN.>>YEAH, THE CITY LOOKED LIKE IT WAS ON LOCK DOWN. THERE WERE SOME DIVIDERS HIM PEOPLE BOARDED UP THEIR WINDOWS. IT WAS IN A CITY PARALYZED BY BEN SHAPIRO, WHO IS A VERIFIES GUY. HE’S FOUGHT REALLY A BOMB THROWER. HE WEARS A YAMAKA. AND HE’S BEING ATTACKED BY PEOPLE AS A WHITE SUPREME CYST. HE WAS AMONG THE PEOPLE WORN FIRST AND POST-VICIOUSLY ATTACKED BY WHITE SUPREMACISTS WHO SEEMED FOR ACTIVATED.>>THE ANTI-DIFFERENTPATION — AIN’T DEFAMATION LEAGUE, SAYS HE WAS THE MOST ATTACKED JOURNALIST BECAUSE HE IS A JEW. THESE CLOWNS IN BERKELEY SAYS HE’S A NAZI. ONE PERSON LAST FIGHT SAID, HEY, WE SHOULD DO EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE DONE WHEN HITLER WAS RISING. ONE PERSON TWEETED BACK, YOU ARE, YOU ARE HARASSING A JEW AND COMMITTING VIOLENCE BECAUSE A JEW WANTS TO TALK. CONGRATULATIONS, YOU ARE DOING WHAT HITLER DID.>>I GOT EIGHT LOT, A LOT LESS THAN BEN DID. BUT WE RECEIVED A TAX ON CARTOON IMAGES OF JEWS BEING SHOT IN THE HEAD. PEOPLE PHOTO SHOPPING YOUR FACE IN A GAS CHAMBER. TO HAVE THAT BACK AT YOU AS FEWER RO WHITE SUPREMACISTS, WE WILL SUPPRESS YOUR RIGHT TO SPEAK.>>THERE IS A TERM USED AS A CATCH-ALL FOR SOMEBODY I DISAGREE W. BEN SHAPIRO AS YOU SAID, HE PARTED WAYS WITH DONALD TRUMP. HE LEFT BREITBART. HE DID ALL THOSE THINGS, HE HAS BEEN ATTACKED RELEAPTLESSLY, HE SAYS INFLAMMATORIORY THINGS, HE DOES, BUT THE IDEA THAT SHE’S A WHITE SUPREMACIST CHEAPENS, BECAUSE THERE ARE WHITE SUPREMACISTS IN OUR MITTS. THERE ARE PEOPLE WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON. YOU THROW THAT TERM OUT AND MAKE AN UMBRELLA TERM. IT’S NOT GOOD FOR THE SOCIETY. YOU KNOW CHEAPEN THE TERM TO THE EXTENT, WE DON’T KNOW WHO IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST.>>ALL RIGHT. WHY DON’T WE GO TO THE NEWS NOW IN EDDIE’S GOT IT. HOLD ON NOW.>>I JUST THINK WE NEED THE NUANCE TO CONVERSATION. I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT BEN SHAPIRO AS AN EXAMPLE OF A PARTICULAR KIND OF CONSERVATIVE VOICE THAT’S BEING INVITED TO COLLEGE CAMPUSES, THAT IN SOME WAYS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE NORMS OF OPENNESS.>>WHAT DO YOU MEAN?>>WHAT I MEAN IS THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE YOU INVITE INTO YOUR SPACE WHO HOLD POSITIONS THAT CALL INTO QUESTION THE VERY NORMS THAT ALLOW THE SPACE TO EXIST.>>LIKE WHAT EXAMPLES?>>WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THIS. I AM TALKING GENERALLY ABOUT CERTAIN SPEAKERS. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THOUSANDS OF CONSERVATIVE INTELLECTTUALS SPEAK ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES ACROSS THE COUNTRY EVERY DAY. THESE SORTS OF EVENTS HAPPEN AROUND PARTICULAR SOURCES. SO WHAT I MEAN BY THIS? WHAT IS IN SPAP RO’S HEAD THAT SHOULD CAUSE VIOLENCE.>>I’M MAKING A GENERAL CLAIM. I KNOW WE GOT TO GET TO THE NEWS IS THIS.>>NO, WE DON’T.>>PART OF THE PEOPLE — PART OF WHAT I’M TRYING TO SUGGEST HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A CONSERVATIVE SPEAKER OR A PARTICULAR KIND OF SPEAKER MAKES THE CLAIM THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE DON’T BELONG IN THIS INTELLECTUAL SPACE THAT WE’VE SACRIFICED THE NORMS OR LET ME SAY WE’VE SACRIFICED OUR ADMISSIONS CRITERIA, THERE ARE A PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ADMITTED TO OUR CAMPUS. I’VE SEEN THIS ON PRINCETOP’S CAMPUS, WHEN SOMEONE CAME IN TO MAKE A VERY, VERY VOLATILE ARGUMENT I THOUGHT AROUND AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND THE STUDENTS PROTESTED. NOW, IT’S CERTAINLY CONSISTENT WITH THE NORMS OF THE UNIVERSITY TO ALLOW FOR OPEN DIALOGUE, EXCHANGE. BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEONE TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THOSE NORMS TO CALL INTO QUESTION THE VERY WAYS IN WHICH THAT COMMITTEE IS CONS STUTD.>>IS THAT A PROPOSITION THAT MERITS VIOLENCE?>>OF COURSE NOT.>>WHAT’S YOUR POINT?>>MY POINT IS THIS EVERY INSTITUTION HAS TO GRAPPLE WITH THE CHALLENGE OF ITS VALUES WHEN IT’S VALUES ARE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE TO CALL THAT INSTITUTION INTO QUESTION. LET ME BE MORE CONCRETE. SO WHEN THE UNIVERSITY ALLOWS FOR OPEN AND FREE INQUIRY AND THEN PEOPLE COME IN AND THEN MAKE ARGUMENTS THAT CHALLENGE THE VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THAT COMMUNITY.>>BUT YOU CAN’T BE DELICATE ABOUT THE ARGUMENTS THAT ARE BEING PAID.>>BUT THERE IS PRECISELY THE CASE. SO WHAT I GET — WHAT I’M FACED WITH AN ARGUMENT, THAT I SOMEHOW AM A BENEFICIARY OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, WHICH I AM, BY THE WAY. BY VERY CHEW OF THAT FACT, I SHOULDN’T BE THERE AND I CHALLENGE THE PERSON IN A VERY DIRECT WAY. RIGHT? AND THEN THAT BECOMES THE BASIS FOR, I’M LOSING MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE, THAT BECOMES THE BASIS, WELL,IANWAY SFWR DO YOU THINK IT’S PRODUCTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO INTERRUPT A CONSERVATIVE SPEAKER TO WALK UP ON THE STRATEGY TO BLOCK HIS ABILITY TO GIVE ANSWER TO THE POINT WHERE THAT PERSON HAS TO BE LET OUT BY SECURITY?>>NO, BUT IN SOME INSTANCES, I THINK THERE ARE MOMENTS WHERE I DON’T FEEL IT NECESSARY FOR ME TO HAVE TO ENDURE ARGUMENT THAT QUESTIONS MY PRESENCE TO UNIVERSITY.>>HERE’S WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE FLAW IN THAT THINKING. I THINK IT’S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS MADE LIBERALS LESS ABLE TO DEFEND THEIR ARGUMENTS IN THE ROUGH AND TUMBLE OF POLITICS IS THAT IF, LET’S SAY YOU TAKE PRO-LIFE.>>OKAY.>>IF I’M IN A LAW SCHOOL AND I SA I TO MY CLASS, THAT I’M PRO-LIFE. RIGHT? THAT’S A POSITION THAT ABOUT 50% OF AMERICANS IF YOU BELIEVE GALLUP SUPPORT. I WILL BE BOOED. I WILL BE HARASSED. PEOPLE WILL SAY, I DON’T WANT TO SUPPORT WOMEN’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE, THAT I’M THIS, THAT I’M THAT. THAT YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO THE CAVE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. I’M SAYING THIS, VINCE SHAPIRO WAS SAYING THIS LAST NIGHT. THIS COMES TO MIND. IF YOU GET UP AND SAY YOU WERE PRO CHOICE, YOU WERE APPLAUDED, YOU WERE CLEARED, YOU DON’T FACE ANY OF THE ABUSE THAT I HAVE FACED, NOW, IF THAT IS YOUR EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR 18 YEARS AND THEN FOR FOUR YEARS AND UNDERGRD AND THREE YEARS IN LAW SCHOOL, BUT I KNOW, WHICH I DID KNOW THAT EVERY TIME I OPENED MY MOUTH IN CERTAIN QUARTERS, I WAS GOING TO GET MY HEAD KNOCKED OFF, WHICH ONE OF US DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO BE MORE PREPARED TO TELL PEOPLE WHY I AM PRO-LIFE OR WHY I BELIEVE THAT THE SECOND AMENDMENT MEANS WHAT THE SECOND AMENDMENT MEANS OR WHY WE NEED TO REFORM AND SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE. BECAUSE EVERY TIME IN MY EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE I GET MY HEAD KNOCKED OFF, I WOULD ARGUE, THAT IF THERE IS A STUDENT OF PRINCETON OFFENDED BY SOMEONE COMING IN SAYING, THE WORST THING THAT’S EVER HAPPENED TO AMERICA WAS AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. AND EDDIE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A RECIPIENT OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, HE SHOULDN’T BE WHERE HE IS BECAUSE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.>>THAT IS THE FIRST PERSON YOU WANT TO ARGUE, THEY WILL HEAR IT. IF THEY’RE RESPECTFUL AND IF THEY LISTEN, IT WILL GET THEIR MINDS WORKING. THEY’LL HEAR THE BEST ARGUMENTS. I ALWAYS WANT TO HEAR THE OTHER SIDE’S BEST ARGUMENT. SO I’M PREPARED.>>BUT THIS IS THE POINT. IN UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES, STUDENTS ARE CONFRONTED OR CONFRONTING OR EXPOSED TO A WIDE RANGE OF IDEOLOGICAL POSITIONS EVERY SINGLE DAY.>>RIGHT.>>THERE ARE PARTICULAR ISSUES THAT ARE VEXING.>>LIKE WHAT.>>LEAK TO THE ENVIRONMENT. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.>>WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHO THOSE ARE?>>WHAT THOSE ISSUES TYPICALLY REVOLVE AROUND. THEY HAVE REVOLVED AROUND IT SINCE MAJOR UNIVERSITIES HAVE BEEN INTEGRATED, SINCE BRACK AND BROWN PEOPLE ENTERED THOSE SCHOOLS AND WOMEN ENTERED THESE SCHOOLS, TYPICALLY THIS DEBATE OCCURS AROUND ISSUES THAT REVOLVE AROUND ISSUES THAT CONCERN BLACK FOLK, THAT INVOLVE ISSUES AROUND ISSUES THAT INVOLVE WOMEN, AROUND THE CULTURAL ISSUES AND THEY’RE CALLED INTO QUESTION THE VERY –>>CONFRONT IT.>>WE DO. I DO IT EVERY DAY IN MY CLASSES, PART OF WHAT I’M TRYING TO SAY IS THIS DOESN’T HAPPEN RIGHT WITH THE CONSERVATIVE INTERPRETER OF AR AS TO THELE OR THE — ARISTOTLE OR THE BREITBART FOLKS THAT WANT TO USE THE VALUE OF THE UNIVERSITY TO PUT FORWARD NOXIOUS DUNES.>>THAT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS THE DEBATE AROUND THAT, IT’S SOMETHING THAT’S UNIVERSAL AND EXCLUSIVE TO THE FRINGE O. REPUBLICAN PARTY? BECAUSE IT’S A MISREADING OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. THERE IS A REAL DEBATE. TO DISENGAGE FROM IT IS TO SAY IT DOESN’T EXIST.>>AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IN THE CONTEXT — SORRY.>>I WANT TO GO TO CATTY KAY AND GO BACK TO EDDIE. WE’VE DONE ABSOLUTELY NO NEWS, I HAVE GOT TO SAY, I AM MORE PROUD OF THIS SEGMENT THAN ANY SEGMENT WE’VE EVER DONE.>>Reporter: EDDIE, I WILL TAKE OBJECTION TO WHAT YOU SAID. IT WILL BE THE ONLY TIME THERE ARE OBJECTIONS ON PEOPLE ON CAMPUS FOR WHEN THEY WERE GENUINELY WERE NEO-NAZIS, ALT RIGHT, ANTESUBMITIC. OR WOMEN. LOOK AT 2014 WHEN CONDOLEEZA RICE AND CHRISTINE LE GUARD HAD TO WITHDRAW THEMSELVES FROM GIVING SPEECHES AT RUTGERS AND SMITH UNIVERSITIES BECAUSE ONE WORKED IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND BECAUSE ONE WAS THE HEAD OF THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND. THAT’S HOW FAR IT’S GONE ON AMERICAN CAMPUSES. IT’S NOT JUST WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN BERKELEY. IT STARTS WHEN PEOPLE LIKE THAT FEEL THEY CAN’T GO AND SPEAK BECAUSE THERE IS SOMEHOW AN OBJECTION FROM THEM BECAUSE THEY COME FROM A MORE CONSERVATIVE, ECONOMIC OR POLITICAL POSITION.>>WELL, OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD TAKE ISSUE WITH NOT ALLOWING CONDOLEEZA RICE AND OTHERS TO –>>Reporter: THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED.>>BUT I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE ISOLATED MOMENTS. THEY’RE NOT GENERALIZABLE TO COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I THINK IT’S THE CASE THAT, AND PARTICULARLY, AND PARTICULARLY POWERFUL AND CONTROVERSIAL MOMENTS LIKE THE IRAQ WAR, ISSUES AROUND IMF IN TERMS OF ITS POLICIES VIS-A-VIS THE DEVELOPING WORLD. IT CAN GENERATE PASSIONS AND THOSE PASSIONS A EVIDENCE –>>Reporter: IT’S NOT EVEN A STORY. IMAGINE IF THAT CAN HAPPEN THEN WITH THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS, IT IS NO SURPRISE THAT WE’RE SEE WHACK WE ARE SEEING ON UNIVERSITIES. I THINK IT’S A REAL SUGGESTION IT’S AN INTOLERANCE LEVEL ON AMERICAN CAMPUSES.>>EDDIE, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEBODY PURELY SPEWING HATRED, NAZIS STAND UP, EQUAL RIGHTS VERSUS A CONSERVATIVE UNPOPULAR VIEW? BY THE WAY, WE CAN HAVE A FIVE-HOUR DEBATE ABOUT ATIRMTIVE ACTION. VERY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT AGAINST IT. I’M CERTAINLY NOT ONE OF THOSE, BUT THEY CAN. OTHER THAN YOUR ABSOLUTE BLACK AND WHITE, NO PUN INTENDED, HATE SPEWING. JOE I THINK BRINGS UP, I HATE TO SAY THIS, A REALLY SMART POINT IN THAT, THAT ITSELF WAY YOU TALK, WE’RE GOING TO GRAB YOUNG LIBERALS WHO CAN’T HEAR THE OTHER SIDE, WE’RE GOING TO HAVE VERY UNAFFECTED LIBERALS GOING FORWARD.>>THIS IS THE POINT I’M TRYING TO MAKE. I’M NOT MAKING IT VERY ARTICULATELY. THIS IS VERY UNSETTLING FOR ME, IT’S EARLY IN THE MORNING. I THINK THIS IS AN ONGOING CARICATURE OF UNIVERSITIES –>>OH, IT’S NOT.>>YES, I THINK SO.>>IT’S CONSERVATIVE, OH, C’MON.>>I THINK SO.>>I THINK STEVEN MILLERS LIKE YOU.>>CONSERVATIVE FOR A WEEK OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS IN AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES. OH MY GOD.>>JOE, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT’S HAPPENED TO COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES SINCE THE 1980s, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAYS IN WHICH THE UNIVERSITIES HAVE BEEN OVER DETERMINED BY ADMINISTRATIONS, THAT HAVE GROWN EXPONENTIALLY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHO RUNS DEPARTMENTS, WHEN ARE YOU INSIDE FACULTY MEETINGS. WHEN YOU SEE HOW THE CULTURE –>>WHAT CAN YOU FIND? I GUARANTEE YOU, YOU DO NOT FIND REPUBLICANS. C’MON. I GOT TO TELL YOU, I WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA, ONE OF THE MOST CONSERVATIVE STATES IN AMERICA. I COULDN’T NAME ONE PROFESSOR — AND I LOVED ALL MY PROFESSORS, LOVED THEM. I REALLY DID. IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE FOUR YEARS. I LEARNED SO MUCH. EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT SHOW ON TV EVERY MORNING, I COULDN’T NAME ONE CONSERVATIVE PROFESSOR OVER FOUR YEARS THAT TAUGHT ME IN POLITICAL SCIENCE AND HISTORY AND ENGLISH. THEY JUST WEREN’T THERE. I WENT ON TO LAW SCHOOL. I WOULD STAKE, CATTILY, ESTABLISHED LAW AND PEOPLE WOULD SHUFFLE THEIR FEET AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IN CON-WALL CLASS. I WOULD ANSWER A QUESTION FROM A PROFESSOR THAT 80% OF AMERICANS WOULD AGREE WITH, AND THAT 80% OF COURSE WOULD AGREE WITH AND PEOPLE WOULD SHUFFLE THEIR FEET. IT DIDN’T HAPPEN A LOT.>>THE PROFESSOR?>>NO THE STUDENTS IN CLASS. IF I WERE A PROFESSOR, I WOULD TAKE THEIR HEADS OFF. BUT AGAIN, I WAS FINE. I TURNED AROUND MOST OF THE TIME. I’D LAUGH AT THEM SAY, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? BUT I’M SAYING THIS NOT FOR CONSERVATIVES. I’M SAYING THIS FOR LIBERALS. THEY HAVE BEEN BUBBLE WRAPPED AND ACADEMIA FOR 40 YEARS AND THEN THEY WONDER WHY THEY WAKE UP. SEE GEORGE W. BUSH HAS WON TWO ELECTIONS AND SEE DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, THEY GET DESTROYED IN 2016 AND IF 2017, THEY STILL DON’T HAVE A MESSAGE TO TACK TO AMERICA. THERE’S A REASON WHY, AND CATTY, I BLAME AMERICAN COLLEGES.>>Reporter: YOU KNOW, AGREE, IF WE THINK OUR STUDENTS ARE TOO FARAJ I’M THEY CAN’T EVEN HEAR FROM THE LIKES OF CHRISTINE LE GUARD AND CONDI RICE, THEN WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM IN AMERICAN EDUCATION. WE’RE NOT PREPARING THEM FOR ACTIVE DEBATE IN THE REAL WORLD.>>VE HAVE A BREAK. EVERYBODY, CAN WE GET EDDIE SOME COFFEE? BECAUSE HE’S REALLY FRUSTRATED? HE’S SAYING IT’S NOT FAIR WE STARTED THIS DEBATE AT 6:00 A.M. IT’S UNNATURAL.>>IT IS.>>IT REALLY IS.>>YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKEN SAM KENNYSON’S COURSE. YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A CONSERVATIVE TEACHER.>>EXAMINE, THAT WAS GOOD. WE ACTUALLY HAVE NEWS WE HAVE TO GET TO. MOUNTING TENSIONS, NORTH KOREA FIRES A BALLISTIC MISSILE PROMPTING EMERGENCY ALERTS IN JAPAN. NEW DETAILS PRESIDENT TRUMP BERATED JEFF SESSIONS IN FRONT OF TOP OFFICIALS AFTER THE APPOINTMENT OF A SPECIAL

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  • I am expecting the “professor” to cry before the conversation is over. How does such a spineless person get to be a professor, A.A.?

  • Neil Mckiernan says:

    This professor babbles. So what you're offended! Noxious is YOUR subjective idea. Subjective!!!. Font listen then, counter argue then, but you don't have the right to force others to be silent with violence you fascist!!!

  • the guy on far right is delusional and talks riddles. he hasn't a clue how to articulate or get to the point. when he talks then everyone else has no clue what he is talking about.

  • Uuumm, a black man who doesn't like certain free speech on campus especially the ones that target affirmative action…if I was Black or brown I wouldnt want intelligent conversion about my meal ticket either…typical of him, always predictable , never new

  • Nathan Estil says:

    The dumbing of liberals…can't believe this mental cripple is a professor. His ilk simply are good at throwing vague words. Can't even explain his argument!#$

  • Easy to see why that so called "Professor" needed affirmative action. He obviously used it to go to college, and then used it to get a job. I feel sorry for the students that have him as a professor, they will be dumber after taking his class.

  • Break the Machine says:

    Nobody at Berkeley was forced to endure anything. Those in attendance were there by choice! Wth is wrong with people.

  • Is that guy implying that Shapiro condemns Affirmative Action, thus saying HE "Shouldn't Be There"? I DON'T THINK SO! Does Shapiro SAY that?? Get over it! I guess he's disingenuously saying that they really don't and shouldn't have the right to say things HE doesn't like! (OK for Condoleeza Wright…!) But… HIS RACISM IS SHOWING. He's not really for Free Speech!

  • Jews can be white supremacist. Or National socialists. Or racist. I don't know if Ben Shapiro is or not but could be.

  • In todays America, there is no place for affirmative action. The black man speaking at 3:00–5:40 cant even formulate his argument. And goes on to proudly proclaim that he is a beneficiary of Affirmative action. if he were held to a higher standard, he would have been compelled to articulate his points better and therefore be more effective before being turned loose on the workforce probably as a journalism major.

  • Scott Shields says:

    This Black dude is a racist worthless Bigot , who wants speech to only be the speech he agrees with .
    He acts like he is for free speech , but is a total raciest hypocritical moron .
    Fire this guy immediately. He is exactly what’s wrong with university’s

  • Are Ben Shapiro’s comments regarded as inflammatory because he speaks to morals and values? Is it because societie’s morals and values have shifted? Once upon a time mainstream humanity would have agreed with him.

  • The black professor from Princeton can't hold his train of thought long enough to make a point. He is basically saying if an institution practices affirmative action then there will be recipients of it at the debates. So the topic should be off limits. Too bad so sad……isn't the whole point of going to school to learn all sides of an issue then come to your own conclusion? So the students need to be shielded from certain topics that may hurt their feelings? No wonder we have so many crybabies and wusses these days.

  • Fresh Fruit Juice says:

    Black Dude:
    I'll try to rush because we are going to go to the news.

    Reply:
    No we don't

    Me:
    Oops

    He thought he can hide his stupidity behind the news. He he he. 🤣

    People are not blocking us black people by questioning Affirmative Action. They just say we have to be there on merit.

    The people who question Affirmative Action are not necessarily bigots.

  • Shane Berrett says:

    This is one of the few news videos I have seen where the situation is not framed to exaggerate the real issues and it hits on key things that no one else has been pointing out. "There's also a cheapening of the term White Supremacist happening right now, it's being used as a catch all for somebody I disagree with, somebody who's politics I don't like".

    I don't know the black guy's name (love his tie though) but the same argument could be used against liberal speakers, saying that leftist speakers should not say things that republican students do not agree with, which means no one should speak, and we end public speaking all together because people disagree with an opposing point of view.

    If a liberal speaker comes, I might join just to see what topic they are speaking on. If or when I disagree, I will not interrupt by protesting mid speech, I came there to learn, not to shut down my own mind opening experience or my ability to critically think about popular topics in society affecting the USA.
    – I do love his respect and patience in telling his point of view, especially with everyone else against him. Good video

  • Eddie is being completely intellectually dishonest and is absolute refusal to discuss affirmative action and it's well documented negative impacts on every race on both its benefactors and the people was designed to harm prove by there needs to be an honest discussion about it and how it has been a negative to society

  • Women's Commission says:

    And there goes my respect for Princeton University. PR department should probably look into this. Not that fact that he disagreed, but the fact that a supposed Princeton Professor can hardly articulate

  • Eddie Glaude Jr is simply a racist masquerading in the Social Justice movement. He keeps saying "some people". If it's "some people" which is not a lot, he should come out upfront and name the "same people". He is doing exactly what he accuses the "whites" of doing to the "blacks", which is hypocrisy!

  • That black guy is so annoying, he never stops talking and says nothing. Get him off the telly if takes all the air time and has no point to make. He has zero insight and zero understanding of the debate.

  • John Johnson says:

    "I shouldn't have to endure an argument that questions my presence." <Typical SJW Decree = Abolishing the 1st Amendment of the Constitution.

  • This black guy is a typical democrat ! Lie ,deny ,lie ,deny, lie ,deny. Other than him it is probably one of the best msnbc panel talks I've ever seen !

  • Solomeo Paredez says:

    Is amazing how this black Fascist guy, can say without even blink "is ok stop ppl to speek things u consider noxius" sorry but the fact u consider things noxius is not valid reazon to stop someone speek, and in fact my black friend thats the definition of be a fascist

  • Brendan Johnstone says:

    So Universities should promote open and free debate, as long as you don't say anything against the status quo? Sorry my friend that is not how it works. Free speech is free speech (noting that the 1st amendment has benefited minority groups and allowed them a platform to air perspectives that may not have been considered "popular" at the time) . If you don't "want to endure" certain perspectives then nobody is forcing you to attend. However if you did decide to attend, I would suggest you articulate your argument allot better than you have here.

  • This is the "left" network? Lol. Ben Shapiro dog whistles for white supremecists. Sorry, but if you have Nazis crediting you for their acts of violence then you have to evaluate what you are doing.

  • Something that is actually coherent on MSNBC? …not talking about that crazy black guy, but Joe! well done, earned a "like".

  • Justin Bousum says:

    Wait, let me make sure I understand. The black guy is saying freedom of speech is exclusive to liberals, minorities, democrates and benefactors of affirmative action, and don't apply to jewish, right wing, liberatarian believers in God? That is literally the most intellectually sterile thing I've ever heard any man, no, any human say.

  • I think the black guy is trying to say he's on this show because he's a token black guy, affirmative action, needed to keep Jesse Jackson happy.

  • I'm sorry dude but students today are not exposed to a wide diverse range of ideologies they are in fact exposed to one ideology and any ideology outside their comfort zone is hidden or kept from them

  • again wrong not isolated incidents it happens at some colleges everyday in fact there colleges that have a blacklist many of them of people they will not allow that use excuses like the cost of security for the event or whatever but they didn't I conservatives while allowing people from the left to come and speak

  • and actually even if they are purely spewing hate there's no law against that it's guaranteed as a protected right under the first amendment you can say whatever you like college campuses being publicly funded are supposed to be the bastion of free speech so if someone comes to a college campus to spew hatethey should show up and find them mostly empty auditorium with nothing but a few guards to keep the peace and tolerance students in their dorms not paying attention at all because you know what they're not interested but we do see is 1000 college students filling the room and screaming over the speaker denying him his first amendment rightsand trust me that s*** happens everyday bad has happened to Ben Shapiro

  • "I was a beneficiary of affirmative action."

    Obviously. He just stole 4 minutes of my life with a point he never even made. I feel sorry for his students.

  • Derek DiGiovanni says:

    Let me let you in on a little secret lefties(not talking about respectful liberals). If you really want to scare us into thinking we’re going to lose elections, start acting normal and stop acting unhinged every time a non-liberal does literally anything and/or opens his or her mouth. Including Trump.

    Luckily for us conservatives, true leftists will never take this advice and make liberals look insane lol

    For the record, very scary to see people on left leaning media outlets actually not being insane. They actually realize that Ben Shapiro is not a white supremacist? That’s not good!!! 😂

  • Wow am I hearing this right, the clowns are on your side MSNBC. This is a joke now you are taking up for free speech now after it's been under attack for so long.

  • I am glad you all are ready to give up most of your money to poor people . I will then be happy to watch you cry.

  • Christopher Sharrock says:

    If you are uncomfortable with a stance or an idea that is proposed then the best thing you can do is to make a reasoned argument against it.

    Getting offended and declaring that such ideas are off-limits is not productive at all. If your stance has validity, stand up for it, explain it. If you can’t do that then you really need to reevaluate if your stance has any validity.

    People’s identities are challenged every day. The American identity is challenged every day. It’s what helps us grow and hold ourselves accountable.

  • if you don't like what the speaker is saying, you can always get up and walk out. that is your right. you are not forced to sit and listen. you do not have the right to ask the speaker to leave.

    also AOC is the product of universities. im so glad i didnt go to college. i started my own solo run company instead. nobody above or below me. if i dont make money next month,. its because i didnt work for it.

  • Mexi-Rican American says:

    Eddie, it is obvious you are a beneficiary of affirmative action.
    You should have stayed silent during this discussion.

  • Mr. ED, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.

  • Amanda Van Sickel Pohanka says:

    Hm I wonder if fascist regimes didn't also ban speech out of fear that it would "call the institution into question." 🤔

  • The hyprocisy of this new liberal class that has hijacked freedom of speech and turned it into censorship. Congratulations dumbasses!!!!

  • Black professor saying a whole lot of nothing.

    White dude making a long point because he’s avoiding having to say conservatives get “persecuted” lot more and will need to be well prepared to explain why they hold their positions.

  • moderatingmoderation says:

    The black guys like ahhh I disagree with you guys because I don't like conservatives but can't articulate it in a way where I don't end up saying that I don't like conservatives therefore their ideas should be shunned

  • This particular professor is particularly particular to particularly point out the particular fact that he is particularly stupid. Even his liberal colleagues couldn’t comprehend wtf he was saying 😂

  • Jimmy Palmisano says:

    Why did they have to put the dumbest African American guy on there are so so many genius black folks that they could have put on

  • Watching this in August 2019… I’m pretty sure Joe Scarborough has been abducted by Vegan Aliens because I no longer know who he is

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