Missing Iowa College Student Mollie Tibbetts found dead

Missing Iowa College Student Mollie Tibbetts found dead


IT IS A TIGHTKNIT COMMUNITY OF ABOUT 1500 OR SO RESIDENTS. THAT COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SORT OF GETTING TOGETHER TO TRY TO, THERE YOU SEE EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO REFERENCE, THAT THEY HAVE BEEN BANDING TOGETHER TO FAN OUT AND TRY TO FIND WHATEVER DETAILS AND INFORMATION THAT COULD. THERE WAS A MASSIVE SORT OF ORGANIZATIONAL CAMPAIGN THAT WAS CENTERED AROUND GETTING PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT SHE WAS MISSING. AND NOW OF COURSE, THE SAD NEWS WHICH IS THAT CBS NEWS IS REPORTING THAT HER BODY HAS BEEN FOUND. CLEARLY, SO MANY ANSWERS, SO MANY QUESTIONS, AND NOT SO MANY ANSWERS. WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF HER DISAPPEARANCE WHERE. WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF HER DEMISE WORK, AND ADRIANA DIAZ HAD BEEN ON THE GROUND THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE WILL SPEAK WITH HER AND JUST A LITTLE BIT. THAT’S AT THE SAID NEWS COMING INTO THE NEWSROOM THAT MOLLIE TIBBETTS HAS BEEN FOUND DEAD. WE ARE STILL WAITING TO GET A HOLD OF HER TO TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS GOING TO BE, FOR CERTAIN, THE FAMILY IS GOING TO BE SHOCKED AND SADDENED. BUT THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN GRIEVING ALONG WITH THE FAMILY OF MOLLIE TIBBETTS FOR THESE NEARLY 5 WEEKS. >>WENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS, THE PEOPLE CLOSE TO HER, UNDER SUSPICION. THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT HER BOYFRIEND. HE WAS OUT OF TOWN STAYING AT — SHE WAS STAYING AT HIS APARTMENT. THERE WAS SOME STORY ABOUT A FARMER NEARBY THAT REFUSED A POLYGRAPH TEST. EVENTUALLY HE SAID THAT HE WOULD. úWHY POLICE HAD BEEN INI INTERESTED IN HIM, WE DON’T KNOW, IT COULD JUST BE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT EVERYONE WHO COULD HAVE POSSIBLY COME IN CONTACT WITH HER. BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, THIS HAS TRANSFORMED THIS TINY TOWN OF BROOKLYN. AND THEY WERE PROBABLY, MOST OF THE POPULATION WERE PROBABLY MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA AT THE HEIGHT OF THIS SEARCH. IT HAS CONFOUNDED PEOPLE. WHEN PEOPLE GO MISSING, IT’S A LARGE CITY. THERE ARE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS EVERYWHERE. OFTEN YOU CAN CATCH GLIMPSES OF THE PERSON, BUT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THIS TOWN, AND FOR MANY REASONS, PROBABLY BECAUSE IT IS SMALL, THEY DIDN’T HAVE THE EVIDENCE TO GIVE THEM ANY SORT OF INDICATION AS TO WHERE SHE MAY HAVE GONE. IN FACT, HER PARENTS STARTED SPECTATING THAT MAYBE SHE RETURNED FROM HER JOG AND WAS ON THE COMPTER AND IT HAD COME BACK. BUT THEN THE POLICE SAID WE DON’T HAVE ANY PROOF OF THAT. AND THERE IS ALMOST A RUMOR MILL AT ONE POINT AS PEOPLE JUST SORT OF EAGER TO FIND ANSWERS. >>WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO A FORMER FBI PROFILER. WE TALKED ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY THAT COULD BE USED IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. RECALL THAT SHE WAS WEARING A FIT BIT WHEN SHE WENT ON THE JOG. SO WHEN FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS, THE FBI, SPECIFICALLY, GOT INVOLVED IN HER HIS APPEARANCE, THEY TRIED TO COMB THROUGH HER SOCIAL MEDIA AND TECHNOLOGY THAT IS AVAILABLE TO INVESTIGATORS NOW IN 2018 THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FIVE OR SIX OR 10 YEARS AGO. TO TRY TO PINPOINT HER LOCATION. THE TRY TO PINPOINT WHERE SHE MAY HAVE BEEN AND WHAT HAPPENED. CLEARLY, THAT INVESTIGATION WAS STILL ONGOING WHEN WE LEARNED OF THE NEWS HERE THAT SHE HAD BEEN FOUND DEAD. THERE IS A LOT THAT WE DON’T KNOW THAT INVESTIGATORS KNOW. WE ARE STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE SHE WAS FOUND. WE DON’T HAVE THAT INFORMATION YET. SO ALL WE DO KNOW, ALL THAT HAS BEEN REPORTED RIGHT NOW IS THAT SHE HAS BEEN FOUND DEAD. BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND I’M SURE THE FAMILY DOES AS WELL. WE KNOW THAT THE FBI HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN HELPING LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO TRY TO LOCATE HER. >>WE WANT TO BRING IN OUR GO TO MEN WHEN IT COMES TO THESE SITUATIONS. CAN YOU HEAR US? >>Reporter: HELLO. I CAN. >>SO GLAD YOU ARE JOINING US. I KNOW THAT THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THERE ARE CERTAINLY, NOT TO USE A CLICHC MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS, BUT THIS IS BEEN QUITE A MYSTERY. IT SEEMED LIKE SHE DISAPPEARED WITHOUT A TRACE. BUT AT THIS POINT, WE ARE LEARNING THAT A BODY HAS BEEN FOUND. WHERE DOES THE INVESTIGATION GO FROM HERE? I IMAGINE FINDING A BODY AS DISAPPOINTING AND HEARTBREAKING AS IT IS, IS A HUGE STEP FORWARD TO FINDING THIS DOSE SOLVING THIS MYSTERY. >>IT VERY WELL COULD BE. FIRST, THEY ARE GOING TO EXAMINE THIS BODY FORENSICALLY TO TRY TO ESTABLISH A TIME OR DATE OF DEATH. THE MECHANISM, THE MEANS OF THE DEATH, THEY ARE GOING TO COMB OVER THE BODY IN GREAT DETAIL FOR SIGNS THAT INDICATED, SIGNS INDICATIVE OF A STRUGGLE FOR DNA OF A POTENTIAL OFFENDER. ANY MINUTIA THAT MIGHT GIVE THEM A CLUE AS TO WHERE SHE HAS BEEN, HOW LONG SHE HAS BEEN THERE AND ANYONE WHO LINKS — LINKS TO ANYONE WHO MAY HAVE HAD A HAND IN HER DEATH. UNFORTUNATELY, WITH KIDNAPPINGS OF THIS NATURE, THE MORE TIME GOES BY, THE LESS LIKELY THAT YOU WILL HAVE A POSITIVE OUTCOME. AND HERE, THIS YOUNG LADY HAS BEEN MISSING FOR WEEKS. WE HAD SOME, I GUESS MAYBE HINTS FROM THE FATHER, THE BELIEF THAT SHE WAS STILL ALIVE AND WITH SOMEONE, PERHAPS SOMEONE SHE KNEW. THAT PERHAPS THERE WAS A RELATIONSHIP OF SOME SORT. A MISTAKE IN JUDGMENT. BUT NOW WE COME TO THIS VERY TRAGIC AND — END. AND WE HOPE LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER AND FIND OUT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE. >>FOR THE — FOR THOSE OF US THAT LIVE IN BIG METROPOLITAN CITIES, IT IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT FOR THOSE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN A CITY OF NINE OR 10 MILLION PEOPLE WHERE IT FEELS LIKE PEOPLE CAN DISAPPEAR EASILY, A LOT OF PEOPLE STRUGGLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEBODY IN A SMALL COMMUNITY, APPARENTLY THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT 1500 RESIDENTS OF THIS SMALL IOWA TOWN, COULD GO MISSING. AS AN FBI INVESTIGATOR, DOES THAT TELL YOU THAT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM THIS COMMUNITY, OR COULD THEY JUST SORT OF BE IN PLAIN SIGHT, I DON’T MEAN IN PLAIN SIGHT, BUT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT IS MUCH SMALLER, IT IS EASIER TO HIDE OR TO KIDNAP SOMEBODY AND KEEP THEM HIDDEN. >>WE HAVE SEEN EXAMPLES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED OFF THE STREETS. AND THERE ARE WITNESSES, THAT THE UNBLINKING EYE OF A SECURITY CAMERA DOWN THE BLOCK, I’M TAKING BACK TO ONE A FEW YEARS AGO IN PHILADELPHIA WHERE A YOUNG LADY WAS KIDNAPPED OFF THE STREET AND THERE WAS A VIDEO DOWN THE STREET. AND FORTUNATELY, SHE WAS FOUND ALIVE WITH THE OFFENDER. I THINK IT WAS DOWN IN DELAWARE. AND SO YOU HAVE IN THAT URBAN ENVIRONMENT, A GREATER OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, FOR CAMERAS AND WITNESSES, FOR NEIGHBORS, FROM SOMEBODY JUST PASSING ON THE STREET TO SAY, I HAVE A DESCRIPTION. AND BY THE WAY, THEN THE POLICE CAN TRACK IT BACK POTENTIALLY TO A CAR OR A TICKET THAT WAS ISSUED NEARBY. IN THIS RURAL ENVIRONMENT, THERE IS A DIFFERENT SET OF CHALLENGES. TYPICALLY SPEAKING, THOSE CAMERAS ARE NOT IN PLACE. IT MAY BE RELATIVELY REMOTE. IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH IF SHE WERE JOGGING NEAR AN IOWA CORNFIELD, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO DRIVE BY, POTENTIALLY BUMPER WITH A CAR, HIT HER AND INJURE HER IN SOME WAY AND PUT HER IN THE CAR AND TAKE HER AWAY, WITHOUT ANYBODY SEEING, WITHOUT ANYBODY HEARING, IT IS FRANKLY GREATER JUST BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF POPULATION DENSITY. THE LACK OF FOLKS NEARBY IN A WIDE-OPEN TERRITORY. SO IT PRESENTS LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES. I AM SURE, THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF THE FBI DEVOTING A COUPLE DOZEN AGENTS TO THIS. I’M SURE THEY HAVE. AND I’M SURE THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE EXPECTED, KIND OF A CHECKLIST OF PROCEDURES LOOKING FOR WHO ARE THE SEXUAL PREDATORS WHO ARE REGISTERED IN THE AREA. WHO ELSE IS IN THE AREA? WHO HAS SHOWN AN INTEREST IN THE YOUNG LADY? WHO HAS SHE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH? COULD IT HAVE BEEN SOME WOULD BE PARAMORE FROM HER PAST THAT POPPED BACK UP THAT HAS BEEN QUIETLY WATCHING THAT INTENDED HER HARM BECAUSE SHE REBUFFED HIM? ANY OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, ANY OF THOSE POSSIBILITIES WILL BE LOOKED AT VIGOROUSLY BY LAW- ENFORCEMENT. >>ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT GOT ATTENTION WAS THIS FARM THAT LIVED OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN, SEVERAL MILES, I DON’T KNOW HOW THE MEDIA GOT WIND OF HIM, BUT WE LEARNED THAT HE HAD BEEN QUESTIONED REPEATEDLY BY THE FBI WHICH CERTAINLY MADE HIM AN INTERESTING CHARACTER. AND THEN HE WAS PRETTY GUARDED ON TELEVISION, FIRST REFUSING TO DO A POLYGRAPH AND LATER ON, HE ADMITTED ON TELEVISION STATIONS THAT HE ACTUALLY DID DO THE POLYGRAPH TEST. I GUESS I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. IF THE POLYGRAPH TESTS AREN’T ADMISSIBLE IN COURT, WHY WOULD THE FBI FIND THEM VALUABLE? >>I HAVE USED THAT TECHNIQUE IN MY CASES IN THE PAST, AND IN THE HANDS OF COMPETENT, CAPABLE POLYGRAPHER, YOU COULD COAX A CONFESSION. YOU COULD GET TIPS AND CLUES AND YOU COULD GET A CULPRIT LEVEL THAT WE ARE INTERVIEWING THE WRONG PERSON, OR YOU CAN GET SIGNS THAT TELL YOU THAT DESPITE DENIALS, THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT EXACTLY THE RIGHT PERSON. I THINK LAW-ENFORCEMENT DOES IT VIEW IT AS A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX, NOT NECESSARILY POSITIVE, BUT SOMETIMES IT CAN BE. IT CAN LEAD TO A CONFESSION. >>SHOULD AN INNOCENT PERSON AVOID DOING A POLYGRAPH TEST? >>YOU KNOW, I DON’T THINK SO. I THINK IN THE HANDS OF A COMPETENT EXAMINER, I HAVE BEEN POLYGRAPH IN MY OWN CAREER FOR SECURITY PURPOSES. AND YOUR APPREHENSION LEVEL, YOUR ANXIETY LEVEL DOES RATCHET UP AS YOU ARE PUTTING WIRES ACROSS YOU AND HOOKING YOU INTO THIS DEVICE TO PROBE WHETHER YOU ARE BEING TRUTHFUL. AND SO, A COMPETENT, CAPABLE POLYGRAPH EXAMINER UNDERSTANDS THOSE SIGNS, UNDERSTANDS IN THE PRETEST PROCEDURES HOW TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE SIGNS THAT ARE PURELY ANXIETY BECAUSE OF THE TEST WHICH IS COMMON, AND THAT WHICH LOOKS LIKE DECEPTION. AND SO I THINK IT IS A VERY VALUABLE TOOL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT YOU CANNOT RELY ON IT SOLELY. IT IS NOT ADMISSIBLE IN COURT. HOWEVER IT CAN PROVIDE USEFUL CLUES TO SAY, WE ARE ON THE RIGHT PERSON, LET’S PUT ROUND- THE-CLOCK SURVEILLANCE ON THIS PERSON. THEY ARE FAILING THE TEST. WE HAVE TO NARROW OUR FOCUS. WE HAVE TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT MAY GIVE US PROBABLE CAUSE FOR A SEARCH OF THE PROPERTY. TO CONDUCT ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATIONS SURROUNDING ONE PERSON. OR TO POTENTIALLY SAY, LOOK, THIS IS THE WRONG PERSON. LET’S CROSS THEM OFF THE LIST AND CONCENTRATE EFFORTS SOMEWHERE ELSE. >>IN CASES SUCH AS THIS, IS IT TYPICALLY CONVENTIONAL WISDOM, AND THAT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM THAT IS PROVEN BY INVESTIGATIONS THAT THE FBI HAS CONDUCTED, THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE KIDNAPPED ARE GENERALLY KIDNAPPED BY SOMEONE THAT THEY KNOW OR SOMEONE THAT THEY ARE CONNECTED TO SOMEHOW? THAT THESE THINGS ARE NOT GENERALLY RANDOM, OR AM I WRONG? >>REALLY, THE VERY SMALL MINORITY OF ACTUAL STRANGER ABDUCTIONS IN THE COUNTRY, THAT IS THE SMALL MINORITY. THEN YOU EXPAND OUT FROM THAT, AND YOU LOOK AT THE KIDNAPPINGS THAT ARE CONDUCTED BY A PARENT, BECAUSE THERE IS A DIVORCE PENDING, THERE IS A SEPARATION PENDING, AND SO YOU HAVE A PARENT TAKING THE CHILD WITHOUT THE COURT’S AUTHORITY. SOMETIMES THE FOREIGN COUNTRIES. YOU HAVE FAMILIARITY WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE POTENTIAL OFFENDERS. THAT MAY BE A NEIGHBOR OR SOMEONE IN LINE OF SIGHT, SEXUAL PREDATOR WITH PRIOR CONTACT. BUT A — THE TRUE STRANGER ABDUCTIONS, I THINK ARE VERY MUCH IN THE MINORITY AND REALLY ONLY A COUPLE DOZEN PER YEAR. >>SO FROM GOING FROM THAT BASIS, OUR PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, I AM TRYING TO THINK OF, I GUESS IF YOU KIDNAPPED SOMEONE, THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL DOESN’T, THEY’RE NOT A REPEAT OFFENDER, ONCE YOU KIDNAPPED SOMEONE, IF THEY CATCH YOU, YOU GO TO JAIL FOR A LONG TIME. BUT I’M WONDERING, I’M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IN A SMALL COMMUNITY, SOMEONE COULD ALL OF A SUDDEN DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING IF WE ASSUME THAT PERHAPS SHE WAS CONNECTED TO WHOEVER THE KIDNAPPER WAS. >>YOU DON’T JUST START WITH KIDNAPPING, THERE MUST’VE BEEN SOMETHING ELSE? >>AS ALWAYS, SHE GETS WHAT I’M TRYING TO SAY. [ LAUGHTER ] >>I THINK THERE IS SOME TRUTH TO THAT, USUALLY THERE IS ANOTHER STARTING POINT. THAT IS WHY THE FBI, LAW ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT PRIOR REGISTERED SEXUAL OFFENDERS. SOMEONE WHO HAS A KIDNAPPING, FOR NEFARIOUS PURPOSES, IN THE PAST, CONVICTED FELONS, RELEASED IN THAT AREA, LIVING IN THE GENERAL AREA, PASSING THROUGH THE AREA. BUT YOU ARE GENERALLY LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY WHO HAS THIS KIND OF DNA. THEY HAVE SHARED A PROPENSITY TO DO BAD THINGS IN THE PAST. THERE IS A LIKELIHOOD THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN. BUT I THINK THERE IS ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT CANNOT IGNORE THAT THIS IS A ONE-OFF OFFENDER, SOMEONE WHO HAS SHOWN AN INTEREST IN HER, ALTHOUGH PERHAPS CONCEALED, AND INTEREST IN HER IN THE PAST. OR AN INTEREST IN YOUNG LADIES THAT FIT A SIMILAR DESCRIPTION. AND THEY ARE SITTING OUT THERE BECAUSE SO MUCH BAD IS AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET NOW. YOU CAN SEARCH AND SEE ANY HORRIBLE THING YOU WANT TO SEARCH AND SEE. AND I THINK THAT IS, IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE WHO IS A NOVICE, WHO IS NEW TO THIS SORT OF THING, IT GIVES THEM POTENTIAL INSPIRATION, THAT THEY HAD BEEN LOOKING AT IT ON THE INTERNET, AND SUDDENLY, THEY DECIDE, HEY, I’M GOING TO DO THIS. I’M GOING TO ACT ON MY IMPULSE. I AM TIRED OF SEEING IT. I AM GOING TO LIVE IT. AND SO, THAT IS THE JOB OF LAW ENFORCEMENT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, FIRST, WHAT IS THE VICTIM BALAJI? WHAT DO THEY KNOW ABOUT MOLLIE TIBBETTS’S HABITS? WHO SHE ASSOCIATES WITH, WHO IS IN THE SOCIAL CIRCLE AND WHO TRIED TO GET TO BE PART OF A SOCIAL CIRCLE WITH HER, ANYONE REBUFFED, TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE VICTIM AND THEN WORK TOWARD WHO IS A POTENTIAL OFFENDER, BASED ON HER PATTERN OF LIFE, WHO WOULD BE INTERSECTING THE PERSON? INTERSECTING WITH HER, LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY DO HER HARM? AND IF SO, I AM SURE THAT THE FBI AND THE BEHAVIORAL LIST IN QUANTICO, THEY ARE PITCHING IN. THEY ARE LOOKING OVER THE INFORMATION AND TRYING TO DEVELOP A POTENTIAL OFFENDER PROFILE IF THEY DO NOT HAVE A LOGICAL SUSPECT ALREADY IN MIND.>>I AM LOOKING AT THIS VIDEO OF THE SEARCH, AND THESE ARE LONG COUNTRY ROADS. THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS. AND IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME THAT PERHAPS AN ACCIDENT IS A POSSIBILITY. IF SHE WAS OUT AND RUNNING, SHE COULD’VE BEEN HIT BY A CAR. IS THAT SOMETHING TO CONTEMPLATE? >>I THINK IN THE EARLY DAYS, THAT CERTAINLY WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY, BECAUSE COULD BE THAT THIS WAS A DISTRACTED DRIVER? HEY BUMPED HER ON A COU ROAD BECAUSE THEY WERE TEXTING OR DISTRACTED AND THEY BUMPED HER AND SHE WAS SERIOUSLY HURT, AND THEY FLED THE SCENE THINKING, WHAT DID I JUST DO, HIDDEN RUNS ARE COMMON. THEY OCCUR IN EVERY CITY OF OUR COUNTRY PROBABLY ON A DAILY BASIS. SO COULD IT HAVE BEEN THAT SORT OF INCIDENT? AND SHE JUST WASN’T DISCOVERED IN TIME? WE WILL FIND THAT OUT. WAS THIS AN INJURY FROM BEING STRUCK BY A VEHICLE AND SHE WAS LEFT IN A SERIOUSLY INJURED CONDITION AND DIED OF EXPOSURE? WHAT IS THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE? DOES IT TAKE US TO THAT SORT OF CONCLUSION? HOW CLOSE TO A ROADWAY WAS SHE FOUND? WAS SHE PUT IN SOME MORE REMOTE PLACE? I AM THINKING BACK TO A DEATH DOWN HERE IN THE CHARLOTTESVILLE AREA. AGAIN, A FEW YEARS AGO IN THE FBI. UNFORTUNATELY, LAW ENFORCEMENT LOCATED THE VICTIM BECAUSE OF VULTURES FLYING IN A PARTICULAR AREA. THE SMELL OF A DECAYING BODY, AND THAT HELPED LAW ENFORCEMENT LOCATE THE VICTIM. IT IS TRAGIC AND UNFORTUNATE. IN THAT CASE, IT WAS A HOMICIDE. IT WAS AN INTENDED ACT. LAW-ENFORCEMENT BY THE HUNDREDS WERE SEARCHING WITH THE COMMUNITY. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A TRAGIC END.>>WE ARE JUST FLASHING ON THE SCREENS THAT THE POLICE ARE EXPECTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE CASE. THAT WON’T BE UNTIL ABOUT 6 PM EASTERN TIME. THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ASKED OF THE POLICE AND OTHER OFFICIALS. I GUESS, THE ONE THING THAT YOU HAVE BEEN POINTING OUT IS THE ABILITY OF SOMEBODY TO DO SOMETHING NEFARIOUS BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF SECURITY CAMERAS AND EYEWITNESSES. AND I SORT OF FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO HAVE THIS COMMUNITY. WHAT IS A COMMUNITY LIKE BROOKLYN, IOWA, WHAT DO THEY DO IN THE WAKE OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AND I WONDER IF THERE IS A LOT THEY CAN DO. IS IT JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THIS SMALL TOWN, BUT I CAN JUST IMAGINE A TOWN OF 1500 PEOPLE WERE EVERYBODY KNOWS EACH OTHER, THIS IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY SHOCKING AND DEBILITATING. >>I WOULD THINK IF THE POLICE CONCLUDE RELATIVELY QUICKLY THAT THIS WAS A HOMICIDE, THAT WILL, THAT IS KIND OF SHOCKING FOR A SMALL COMMUNITY WHERE THEY DON’T HAVE HOMICIDES. I LIVE OUTSIDE OF WASHINGTON DC. I SEE THE NIGHTLY NEWS. HERE IN CHICAGO, YOU HAVE HOMICIDES THAT OCCUR IN ALMOST A DAILY BASIS, SOMETIMES MULTIPLE OVER THE WEEKEND. THINK OF CHICAGO IN RECENT WEEKENDS. THE COMMUNITY IS ALMOST NUMB TO IT, ALTHOUGH VERY OFTEN OUTRAGED. BUT WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A VERY SMALL RURAL COMMUNITY WHERE YOU HAVE NOT PERHAPS HAD A HOMICIDE IN YEARS, YOU THINK IN TERMS OF NEIGHBORS LOOKING AT NEIGHBORS SAYING, WHO DID THIS? WHO IS WALKING AMONG US THAT IS RESPONSIBLE? I AM SURE IT IS STUNNING IF IT TURNS OUT THAT WAY. IF IT TURNS OUT IT WAS A KIDNAPPING, FIRST, AND FOLLOWED BY A MURDER, IT IS STUNNING TO A SMALL COMMUNITY LIKE THIS. >>DO YOU FIND THAT, AND YOU STRESSED THAT IF IT TURNS OUT THAT WAY, WE REALLY DON’T KNOW, BUT DO YOU FIND THAT WHEN THERE ARE MURDERS LIKE THIS IN SUCH A SMALL COMMUNITY, SOMEONE KNOWS SOMETHING? BEYOND THE PERPETRATOR, SOMEONE ELSE HAS SEEN SOMETHING AND KIND OF TUCKED IT AWAY AND IS NOT SURE IF THEY SHOULD COME FORWARD, BUT THE LIKELIHOOD OF THIS SORT OF BEING A COMPLETE SECRET KEPT BETWEEN THE PERPETRATOR AND THE VICTIM IS PROBABLY PRETTY LOW? >>THERE IS VERY OFTEN, WITH THIS, AND I KNOW WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH ISIS INSPIRED ATTACKS, A LEAKAGE OF THE SIGNS OF SOMEBODY WHO HAS THIS SORT OF INTENT. WHAT LAW-ENFORCEMENT WILL BE TRYING TO DO IS KEEP THIS CASE ALIVE IN THE MEMORIES OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE VERY OFTEN, SOMEONE SAW A SIGN. WHETHER IT IS SUBTLE OR BIG AND UGLY, SOMEONE SAW SOMETHING AND LAW-ENFORCEMENT IS DESPERATE TO GET THAT ONE TIP THAT CRACKS THIS CASE OPEN. WE WANT PEOPLE WHO MAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A KIDNAPPING LET ALONE A KIDNAPPING AND MURDER OFF THE STREETS OF AMERICA. SO LAW-ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY BE VERY OFTEN AS DAYS AND WEEKS GO PAST, BE CREATIVE IN TRYING TO KEEP THIS IN THE PUBLIC EYE, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC CAN BE SO VALUABLE IN THESE CASES. LAW-ENFORCEMENT, ALONE, IS NOT THE ANSWER TO ALL OF THE CHALLENGES ABOUT CRIME. WE NEED THE PUBLIC AND MEDIA TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT. AND TO ENERGIZE THE PUBLIC AND HAVE THAT ONE PERSON WHO KNOWS SOMETHING COME ACROSS, PICK UP THE PHONE, CALL THE POLICE. AND GIVE A CLUE, A LEAD, AND HAVE THE POLICE START TO DO THEIR WORK. AND NARROW DOWN AND FOCUS AND POTENTIALLY GET A SEARCH WARRANT. AND GO AND TAKE AN OFFENDER OFF THE STREETS. >>$400,000 HAD BEEN RAISED, MONEY TO HELP FIND HER, NOW THE MONEY WILL GO TO ANYONE WHO CAN HELP GIVE INFORMATION LEADING TO THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE. HOPEFULLY YOU DON’T NEED MONEY TO MOTIVATE YOU, BUT IF THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES, THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY OUT THERE. JUST TO CLARIFY HOW SOME OF THIS INFORMATION IS COMING TO US NOW, WHAT WE’VE LEARNED IS THAT CRIMESTOPPERS SAID THEY LEARNED OF THE DISCOVERY FROM A CLOSE FAMILY FRIEND OF MOLLIE TIBBETTS. THAT IS WHERE THIS INFORMATION IS LEAKED FROM, ESSENTIALLY, THAT A BODY WAS FOUND, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS, INDEED, HER. >>STANDBY ONE SECOND. AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, WE SPOKE YESTERDAY TO A RETIRED FBI PROFILE — PROFILER. WE ASKED WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR WHEN IT COMES TO CLOSE. HERE’S WHAT SHE SAID. >>I THINK IT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL TO LOOK AT HER SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL, PARTICULARLY IN THE HOURS AND DAYS BEFORE SHE WENT MISSING. SO THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT, úEV BEHAVIOR, HOW SHE COMES ACROSS, HER STATE OF MIND, DOES SHE SEEM DEPRESSED? DOES SHE SEEM DISTANT? THEY WILL LOOK AT WHO WAS SHE WITH? WHO WAS IN THE BACKGROUND? WHO WAS AWARE OF THE LAST VIDEOS THAT SHE POSTED? THAT WILL BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO INVESTIGATORS, AGAIN, AS THEY TRY TO RECONCILE WHO WAS THE MOLLY — MOLLIE TIBBETTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA VERSUS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, AND WHO ARE THE PEOPLE, IF ANY, THAT SHE IS AFRAID OF. SO WHAT YOU SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA BEAUTIFUL FACES, BUT DOES THAT REALLY REFLECT WHAT IS GOING ON IN HER PERSONAL LIFE? IT IS HELPFUL AND IT IS GOOD WHEN THEY ARE RECONCILING THAT TO SEE WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON IN HER LIFE. >>WHEN WE PLAYED THAT BACK, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS STRUCK BY, BEFORE SHE WRAPPED UP HER COMMENTS, WHO MOLLY MAY BE AFRAID OF, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I DON’T THINK WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE LOOK AT SOMEONE’S SOCIAL MEDIA, A GENERALLY SHOWS THE WORLD HOW WE WANT THEM TO PERCEIVE US, WHICH IS GENERALLY HAPPY AND ENJOYING OUR LIVES. THE IDEA THAT YOU MAY BE AFRAID OF SOMEONE WHETHER IT IS AT SCHOOL OR IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IT MAY — YOU MAY NOT BE WILLING TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION EXCEPT WITH CLOSE CONFIDENCE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A THREAT THAT INVESTIGATORS ARE LOOKING AT AND WE IN THE PUBLIC MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IT. >>NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. I MENTIONED EARLIER, VICTIM KNOWLEDGE HE, THAT IS WHAT MARY ELLEN IS DESCRIBING. WHAT DOES LAW-ENFORCEMENT KNOW ABOUT HER PATTERN OF LIFE? WHO ON HER SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. WE PRESENT VERY OFTEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WHICH WE WANT TO PRESENT, AND WE CONCEAL THAT WHICH WE WANT TO CONCEAL. WHO WAS SHE BLOCKING FROM SOCIAL MEDIA? WHOSE PHONE CALLS WAS SHE BLOCKING? WHAT ARE HER CLOSEST FRIENDS SAYING ABOUT WOULD BE PARAMORE’S WHO REPEATEDLY OR INSISTENTLY ASKED HER ON A DATE AND IGNORE THE FACT THAT SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND, WHATEVER? THAT OTHER PART THAT IS OFTEN UNSEEN, IT IS LAW-ENFORCEMENT’S JOB TO PROBE INTO THAT AS WELL. >>WHAT ABOUT THE VALUE OF SOCIAL MEDIA WHEN IT COMES TO THIS INVESTIGATION? >>I THINK THERE IS VALUE, BECAUSE IT WILL GIVE US SOME INDICATORS OF HER STATE OF MIND. BEFORE THIS, WEEKS BEFORE, WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN HER LIFE VERY OFTEN, PEOPLE POST THAT UP. IT IS A PART OF THE ENTIRE MATRIX OF UNDERSTANDING, WHAT IS THIS PERSON ABOUT, WHAT MOTIVATED HER? WHAT DID HER LIFE LOOK LIKE IN ITS TRUEST FORM? IT’S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LOVE WAS MEANT TO RECONSTRUCT PARTS OF THAT. WHAT HAS CHANGED ON SOCIAL MEDIA? OFTENTIMES, THAT IS VERY VALUABLE. OFTENTIMES YOU COULD PUT UP A PERSON IS IN A RELATIONSHIP, BUT THEY ARE NOT, WHAT HAS CHANGED OVER TIME? THAT MAY GIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT SOME INDICATORS, AND AGAIN, PATTERN OF LIFE. WHAT DID SHE DO, HOW DID SHE DO IT? WHO DID SHE NORMALLY INTERSECT WITH? THOSE ARE ALL THINGS WHERE YOU CIRCLE INVESTIGATORS AND INTERVIEW EVERYONE THERE. >>WHO WAS THERE THAT MAY HAVE LOOKED AT HER AND COME INTO CONTACT WITH HER? STARTED TO THINK BAD THINGS ABOUT HER? I WANT TO KNOW ALL OF THAT. I DON’T WANT TO JUST KNOW ABOUT GENERALLY AREA SEX OFFENDERS, BUT PEOPLE WITH CONVICTIONS FOR VIOLENT CRIMES, I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT WHO DID SHE INTERSECT WITH . THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN WHO IS IN THE AREA. >>THE NEWS IS THAT SHE WAS OUT FOR A JOG, AND OFTEN WE KEEP IT ROUTINE. >>WE MAY TAKE A RIDE OUT AT 8 AM, OR AT 430, AND EVERY MEMBER SORT OF, AS A SECURITY LESSON, BEING OUT ALONE, BEING TOLD TO VARY YOUR SCHEDULES, BECAUSE AS SOMEONE KNOWS, IF THEY KNOW THEY WILL ALWAYS BE OUT AT 6:30, THEY COULD BE WAITING FOR YOU. >>SAD BUT TRUE. I FIRST HEARD THE NEWS, I HAVE A YOUNG DAUGHTER, YOUNG ADULT NOW, BUT I AM JUST SHAKING MY HEAD THINKING FIRST, ISN’T IT WONDERFUL THAT SOMEBODY WHO IS IN A COUNTRY SETTING THE LEAVES IN THE HUMANITY OF THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS THAT THEY COULD GO OUT JOGGING AT NIGHT IN THE EVENING BY THEMSELVES IN A VERY REMOTE RURAL AREA AND FEEL SAFE. IT IS A WONDERFUL THOUGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS NOT ALWAYS THE REALITY IN AMERICA WHERE YOU DO HAVE TOO MANY BAD PEOPLE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LISTS OF IN YOUR STATE, YOU CAN VERY OFTEN PULL UP YOUR COMMUNITY AND LOOK AT WHERE REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS ARE ASSOCIATED, YOU CAN SEE THEM IN EVERY COMMUNITY. >>THAT IS PRETTY DISTURBING. THERE ARE APPS FOR THAT. >>THAT IS PRETTY DISTURBING. >>DON’T YOU THINK THAT THE PEOPLE IN SUCH A SMALL COMMUNITY, THEY WOULD BE AWARE. THEY REPORT THAT THE COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES ARE AWARE OF WHO IS LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY. >>IT MAY BE DIFFERENT AND DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS. >>IT IS. AND IF YOU HAVE THE AWARENESS AND INCLINATION, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO GO TO A LOCAL WEBSITE AND FIND WHERE SUCH PEOPLE ARE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. VERY OFTEN, WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT OUR KIDS, DOES MY CHILD WALKED BY THIS LOCATION ON THE WAY TO THE SCHOOL BUS OR ON THE WAY TO SCHOOL? BUT THIS APPLIES TO ADULTS AS WELL. AND IN THIS DAY AND AGE WITH CRIME THAT SOMETIMES SEEMS TO SURROUND US, I WOULD BE VERY WORRIED. I’VE CAUTIONED MY OWN DAUGHTER, WHEN YOU GO SHOPPING, LOOK AROUND BEFORE YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR. SEE IF SOMEONE IS WALKING TOWARDS YOU BECAUSE OF A POTENTIAL CARJACKING OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THOSE FOLKS ARE OUT THERE. I’M NOT TRYING TO INSTILL A SENSE OF PARANOIA IN MY CHILD OR OTHERS, BUT CRIME IS A REALITY, AND WE OUGHT TO TAKE STEPS TO BE AWARE OF OUR SURROUNDINGS AND PROTECT OURSELVES AGAINST SOMETHING BAD HAPPENING. AND HERE, SOMETHING DID HAPPEN. THAT SOUNDS AS THOUGH SHE HAS BEEN FOUND DEAD. WE DON’T KNOW THE CAUSE YET. BUT SOMETHING BAD EVIDENTLY DID HAPPEN. WHETHER SHE WAS STRUCK OR KIDNAPPED AND KILLED, SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED TO THIS YOUNG LADY. IT IS HORRIBLE. >>YOU TALK, WOULDN’T YOU KNOW ABOUT IT IN A RURAL AREA, BUT WE DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PERPETRATOR. WE KEEP SAYING THAT. CERTAINLY THERE ARE REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS EVERYWHERE AS RON POINTED OUT, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS ON THEM, THEY CANNOT LIVE CLOSE TO SCHOOLS OR PLAYGROUNDS, AND THIS AND THAT. YOU WOULD THINK THAT FURTHER OUT IN THE COUNTRY, IT WOULD GIVE THEM LESS OPPORTUNITIES TO VIOLATE THOSE RESTRICTIONS. THOUGH YOU MAY WANT TO THINK THAT PEOPLE DON’T LIVE OUT HERE WHO ARE UP TO NO GOOD, BUT THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. >>THE THING THAT I, HOW QUICKLY, RON, DO FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS, LOCAL POLICE, CLEAR FAMILY MEMBERS FROM, AND WE AREN’T POINTING FINGERS, BUT AS WE THINK ABOUT, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PERHAPS SOMEONE SHE KNEW, SOMEONE THAT WASN’T A PART OF HER IMMEDIATE FAMILY. I AM THINKING THAT BY THIS POINT FIVE WEEKS DOWN THE ROAD, CAN WE ASSUME, AND THIS IS AN ASSUMPTION AND SPECULATION, THAT THE FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN MORE OR LESS CLEARED? AND MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT ABOUT COLLEGE STUDENTS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF IOWA? KIDS SHE MAY HAVE GONE TO SCHOOL WITH BUT DIDN’T LIVE IN THE TOWN? >>I THINK IT HAD BEEN REPORTED THAT HER FATHER AND HER BROTHERS WERE CLEARED. HER FATHER DOESN’T LIVE IN THE AREA AND HER BROTHERS WERE WORKING SEVEN MILES AWAY IN ANOTHER TOWN. BUT THAT IS THE INFORMATION WE ARE GETTING. RON, I’M SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HOLDS BACK INFORMATIO FROM THE MEDIA. >>THEY DO. AND THERE WAS ALSO REPORTING THAT THE BOYFRIEND, WHO I THINK WAS A PART OF THE INITIAL MISSING REPORT WAS CLEARED AS WELL. SO IS THAT TRUE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT WATTS PEOPLE TO BELIEVE? LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS A REASON TO BE GUARDED ABOUT WHAT THEY SAY AND WHAT THEY DO. THEY ARE CERTAINLY LOOKING AT THOSE IN CLOSEST PROXIMITY. IS THERE A FAMILY CONNECTION HERE? WHAT DOES THE FAMILY LIFE LOOK LIKE >>IT JUST STRUCK ME THAT WITH THE DISCOVERY OF HER BODY, NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOME PHYSICAL EVIDENCE THAT INVESTIGATORS ARE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO, DNA AND OTHER TYPES OF EVIDENCE THAT, TO ME, IT WOULD CLEARLY SUPERSEDE ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD FIND ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT YOU HAVEN’T FOUND OVER THE LAST FIVE WEEKS. THINGS WE MAY HAVE ASSUMED PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN CLEARED MAY ALL OF A SUDDEN FALL BACK INTO SUSPICION BECAUSE OF THE DISCOVERY OF THE BODY? >>THAT IS TRUE. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE FIT BIT AND HER PHONE, ARE THEY DISCOVERED ON HER? AND WHAT DOES THE SEARCH OF THOSE DEVICES YIELD? DOES THE LOCATION OF HER BODY TAKE THE POLICE TO YET ANOTHER LOCATION? WE ARE NOW IN THE VERY EARLY STAGES OF A DEATH INVESTIGATION. I THINK THERE IS MUCH TO BE LEARNED FROM THE CONDITION OF HER BODY AS WELL AS THE LOCATION HERE, HOW FAR FROM WHERE SHE WAS REPORTEDLY JOGGING, HOW FAR FROM HER HOME, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOME MORE DETAIL ON THAT WITHIN THE NEXT 6 TO 12 HOURS. >>THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INSIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO COVER THIS BREAKING NEWS. THE BODY OF MOLLIE TIBBETTS HAS BEEN DISCOVERED. WE HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS WITHOUT ANSWERS. LATER ON, WE WILL TALK TO MARY ELLEN O’TOOLE, A FORMER FBI PROFILER. SHE IS FASCINATED WHEN IT COMES TO ANALYZING THE POTENTIAL PERPETRATORS IN A CASE LIKE THIS. WE WILL TALK TO HER LIMIT LATER. THERE IS MORE NEWS GOING ON AS WELL. WE WILL GET TO THAT. BEFORE THAT, WE TAKE A QUICK BREAK. YOU ARE WATCHING CBSN , CBS NEWS, ALWAYS ON.

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