Here’s Why Toyotas are Breaking

Here’s Why Toyotas are Breaking


rev up your engines, now Toyota is known
for making cars that last a long time engines that run good don’t burn much
oil, this 94 Celica has got a 1.8 liter four-cylinder engine and it only
burns like half a quart of oil in between the oil changes that’s not bad
for a car that’s got 240,000 miles on it that engine was made in Japan, and here
in North America those engines weren’t made in Japan, they
were made in Kentucky and they didn’t make
them right, and in 2011 Toyota issued a TSB a technical service bulletin that
said some 2006 to 2011 of those 2.4 liter engines, exhibit abnormal oil
consumption, they had defective pistons rings that did
not seal the engine correctly inside,
the pistons have various sets of rings the top ones are for compression
but the bottom are for oil control rings and their suppose to scrap the oil off the
engine so that it goes back down into the engine
instead of squeezing into the combustion chamber and then burning
and there’s a spring inside that keeps them seperated so they seal
and between the rings and the inside of the piston there
are holes that let the oil go back into the engine
and in the problem of these toyota engines either the holes weren’t large enough
or their weren’t enough of them to drain the oil right
so their fix was to redesign the piston then they had to replace them all
now in a healthy engine the top piston rings keep
the pressure inside and the bottom ones keep scrapping the oil off and putting it
back into the bottom of the engine so the oil is used over and over again and
isn’t burned so needless to say toyotas fix is a very expensive
one the engine has to be taken out of the car
and completely disassembled new pistons put in and new piston
rings it’s a very expensive fix
and then toyota replaced the AZ engine with a AR engine it’s a
little bit bigger and they haven’t had any problems with those, now the 2.4 the
ones that burn oil they had a cast aluminum block the cylinder block
cast-iron liners and cast aluminum heads, hey at least they did a better job than
in the past with the Chevy Vegas, cast aluminum block and they just
coated it with some kind of teflon, and then that wore off they burnt oil like
mad, and their fix of course was to put liners in aftermarket so they lasted, if
you own one, their still good engines and you could take it back to Toyota but
they got a very limited recall, only certain models they were kind of
evil on that one, they should have recalled them all, but they didn’t so if
you have one check the oil a lot and had the oil, it can run perfectly fine
otherwise, it’s when people let them get really low on oil, then the engines just
destruct because they don’t have enough lubrication inside, and don’t let your
oil get dirty, personally I think some of the problem was these guys thinking they
can really do that 10,000 mile oil change, and the engines wore out faster
especially an engine that it has a problem in
the first place, if I owned one of those I go back old style, I would change the
oil and filter every 3,000 miles on one of those, so as I said in 2015
Toyota offered to fix some of these engines for free, it was a limited time
period and a limited amount of models if you want to check of yours is covered
NHTSA the website the Highway Traffic Safety Association website, and you can
look it up by the VIN number to see if there’s anything that fits your model,
but really as far as I’m concerned, Toyota responded to that too
little and too late, they built the engines in the United States they
obviously did not have the quality control that they had in the Japanese
built engine, that’s what I like about my old Celica, look at this Japan and in
that case not just the engine, the whole car was made in Japan, as far as I’m
concerned that’s why it’s lasted so long because if I want to buy a Japanese car,
I want the thing made in Japan by the people who made them best, and even the
Mercedes, hey I’m not gonna buy one but if I did, it would be that’s one because
look it’s made in Stuttgart Germany, the fancy ones they’re still made in Germany,
and believe me they got a lot of
technology in them, but they are the best built ones that they sell, I would not
buy one that isn’t made in Germany, hey take my wife’s Lexus all made in Japan
engine, body, everything made in Japan real quality, so in this case the 2.4 liter
engine that Toyota made in Kentucky for the North American market, they obviously
did not build them as well as they did in Japan, now as I said if you’ve got one
of these, check through any kind of recalls any notifications National
Highway Traffic and Safety Association website like I said, maybe you’ll get a
free fix who knows, but if you own one check your oil a lot, use quality oil and
me as I said I changed the oil in them every 3,000 miles just to make sure, now
my own personal customers that had those engine in their Toyotas, none of them had
an engine ever go out because they were checking their oil, and I’d say hey get 2
or 3 quarts of those plastic screw caps, throw them in your trunk, so if you’re
somewhere and the oil is low just add it once it gets half a quart down on the dip
just put half a quart in, if you maintain it
you’re really not gonna have any problems, but of course being a Toyota
one would expect them not to burn oil in the first place, because I really haven’t
seen any engine problems in Toyotas other than those Celicas that had that
Yamaha designed engine and that was a mistake on Toyotas behalf to use that
Yamaha design, they should have just stuck to their own designs and not gone
to a high rev engine that only puts out the horsepower at really high revs, but
has an oil pump system that’s worse that won’t pump the oil at those rpms
fast enough and suck air, it’s called dry sump it sucks air, and then boom up went the
engine, as far as I’m concerned that’s the only other real engine
mistake the Toyota made was using those Yamaha designed engines in the Celica,
and really that pretty much led to the end of Celica, Celicas were made for
decades and then they put that engine in they got a bad reputation and then they
stopped making them, and to their credit Toyota no longer makes this 2.4 liter 4
cylinder engine that had the problems and the new one that they have, I haven’t
seen any problems in them at all yet, so now you can separate fact from fiction,
what’s behind all this talk about Toyota engines burning oil, so if you never want
to miss another one of my new car repair videos remember to ring that Bell

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  • I had a 2007 Camry. The recommended oil change interval was 5,000 not 10,000. The AZ engine was designed in Japan, it was the design that was faulty! lol

  • Aaron Burr Atwood. says:

    My 2012 equinox still burns oil even after new rings (from a recall). It’s done it since day one. It’s only got 160k and I’ve had it since new.

  • 2007 Camry that was a 4 cylinder cost me THOUSANDS of dollars. You wouldn't believe how much oil it burnt. This made me not want to buy a TOYOTA ever again.

  • Scotty – Correction for you – Toyota WAY – google it – They have no QC at all in Japan. they brought it to the US and the UK and well it didn't work out the same way as in Japan. It explains why the cars which were made in Japan have much better quality.

  • seems like yesterday those "new" celicas came out. kind of a big deal at the time with the 6 speed and all. i thought they looked ok

  • They are no longer built just by Japanese. That is why they are starting to turn into Lemons.

    American management and workers just don't give a hoot.

    New generations of Toyotas not going to be as good when it was just an all Japanese effort.

  • Their Only All Good/ Great, If Made In Japan Not America, I Very Much Support"Made In America." Crappy Made No, High Priced No.

  • I have that motor in an XB, but I believe the car is a japanese made car with japanese made engine. Same oil problem, but mine only has 80k miles on it, so it uses an extra quart every 1000 or 1500 miles.

  • Btw…I never took my car in for the test because my FIL had a pretty significant oil consumption rate and he took his car in and they told him it was in spec. He traded his car off two weeks ago with 160k miles and it was burning about a quart every 300-500 miles.

    The cost to replace the pistons with a new ring set is higher than what he got for the trade.

  • Other btw, aside from the oil burning, my 11 year old XB has cost me about $100 in unexpected repairs so far. I bought it new.

  • It sounds like toyota gave the wrong pistons to the American car manufacturer? How dumb of toyota, unless they had a reason to do that….. hmmm

  • Family had several 1998-2002 generation corollas, 1.8L engine 1ZZFE? I think. Oil changes every 3K miles, well maintained. All ate oil starting at 115-130k, no smoke, just disappeared, not enough oil holes in pistons skirt. Tried oil treatments, changing to thinner and thicker oil, nothing helped. Was putting oil in every 1-2 weeks, kept a gallon in trunk. Toyota knew about this for a long time, I didn't know the 2.4L engines had same problem.

  • My dad had a 2007 Camry that had this oil-burning problem. He fought with Toyota for 8 months trying to get them to fix it, and they would only give him $2k for a $6k engine rebuild. I kid you not, the day immediately after he traded that car in, he got a notice in the mail for the Toyota engine recall… he was not a happy camper that day…

  • I have a friend that worked for a Nissan plant in the south and he told me they were putting duck tape on certain parts just to keep the lines moving. So yeah I can believe that American made anything is the problem.

  • Scotty, what's the difference, results wise, between drain and fill vs flush and fill for engine coolant, and how much is the cost difference, in general?

  • I guess in the Prius, the pistons were changed in 2014 and the piston rings were changed also in 2015, so 2015 has a different piston and piston ring set and 2016 has a different piston and piston ring set from 2015, so does anyone have a 2015 or 2016 with high mileage that isn't burning excessive oil?

  • To be fair you have a point! However, a factory trained technician knows the difference between a recall and a customer support program!

  • So bottom line is stay away from anything that has a Toyota engine in it unless you have a good mechanic like Scotty. 👍🏻

  • dennis collins says:

    Use amsoil cuz I'm currently in the 30.000 mile range and haven't had an oil change and everything ok running brand new no problems 😋😎

  • My father was automotive Engineer for Chrysler many years ago and said his team would draw up excellent designs for new motors , then they have to go to a board meeting before the new motor is approved for production with the bean counters , accountants stock holders, and other executives ,and they question the engineer staff over cost aspect of each component .
    and even call in other so called experts to dispute their own design team. for example, the company execs would say, Your design calls for a aluminum intake manifold, but wouldn't a plastic one be just as good? then the outside consultant siding with the company will say, our studies have shown modern plastics are actually superior to aluminum and cheaper to produce saving millions in production cost, another would say, Stainless steel bolts? isn't that over kill. that will cost a fortune. and on and on, till the once reliable design became unreliable with
    cheapened parts in critical wear areas that fail sooner than they should have .

  • Can anyone help and give advice that if I were looking to get a Toyota Corolla right now. What year would be best to get as far as lasting quite awhile and affordable? I know it may not be enough to go on but it's what I am leaning towards. Thanks!

  • Wifes 08 has 204k miles and oil consumption decreased some with a new pcv valve. I Just replace oil every 4 to 5k miles and I'm fine. Couldn't go 10k it run out of oil likely. Besides that still great car.

  • Going to pick up our 2007 Camry tomorrow, thanks Scotty for the tips. The recall only went to 2017 so I'm SOL. Guess we are gonna stock up on the Castrol SW-20;-)…looking at the CAR FAX the previous 2 owners did nothing about the recall. Maybe they experienced no problems?

  • I had a 2009 Camry with 150,000 miles on it that burned oil, and Toyota paid for the repairs and put me in a loaner car free of charge.

  • Same for Skoda drivers, swear blind their cars are more reliable than parent company Vag VW.
    Just a google to briskoda reveals the reality

  • Scotty, this 07 Camry I just purchased last week, has about 104K miles on it. What make of oil would you say is best for this year of the Toyota Camry? My research is showing sw-20? But does it matter the make? Should I just go with the dealer oil? Car purchased at a Toyota dealership. thanks in advance!!

  • I had a 89 chevy truck with 350 that never used oil till about 150K. Then all of a sudden it needed a quart between 5K oils changes. I was told it probably had oil control rings break. After about a year of driving like that it started running rough so I checked and one cylinders spark plug had a big glob of carbon on it. Cleaned it off with a wire brush and it ran fine again. So started cleaning that plug at every oil change after that.

  • Why do people blame this ring problem for all of the oil loss? My nephews 2007 Scion Tc increased consumption when i replaced the pcv valve with the revised version. It has a larger opening than the stock Aisan valve. i cleaned the original valve and put it back in. Also we switched to Maxlife synthetic 5W-30. It is on the thin end of the 30 weight range. The Tc was Japan assembled with the problem 2AZ-FE. We have reduced his oil loss to two quarts every 8,000 miles.

  • The Life or Liberty Channel says:

    I had a Toyota Matrix and it was burning about a 1 qt every 3000 miles .
    I believe that the previous owner negotiated the oil change.
    I changed the oil two time at 1000 miles and used motor flush and it hardly used any oil after that .

  • Hi Scotty, really like your videos. would a product called Engine Restore help these engines that are using to much oil? Thanks, joe

  • Oh man well I bought a 2013 equinox and that's exactly what was wrong with that crap car. I sold the car to carmax and ended up buying a toyota highlander

  • That is basically a thing across all Japanese brands. Those of them made & assembled in Japan are made well, examples include Mazda CX9 and Toyota 4runner.

  • I had one of these POS engines in a 2010 Scion xB which started burning oil at about 45K miles. Fortunately, I found out about it and Toyota rebuilt my engine for free. I got lucky. Toyota didn't contact me. I complained to them and found out about the problem on the Internet. Pure luck on my part.

  • Scotty, you seem to suggest the American made Toyota's are of lower quality due to American workers building the cars and powertrains.
    Keep in mind upper Toyota management in Japan are the ones that select suppliers and many of those suppliers make parts for both Japanese and American made Toyota's.
    I have a family member who works at the Toyota truck factory in Texas and guess what, the Tundra's and Tacoma's built there have had zero quality issues and very high resale value.
    All built with American supplied engines and electronics by American workers, not Japanese.

  • Man i'm so glad I saw this video! I almost traded in my high mileage '14 Subaru STI for an '18 Camry XSE that was made in the US. The Subaru I have was made in Japan and luckily hasn't had any major issues. In search of a very reliable vehicle, that gets good gas mileage and can handle snow.

  • We have had a load of customers with Toyota 2.2/2.4, 3.0 and 3.3 V6 engines that not only burned oil but also smoked ticked and knocked and soon buy buy motor! It was a major design flaw and nothing to do with assembly! Another reason I don't blindly recommend Toyota's like this guy does without doing your research. And they covered this up and blamed the consumer for years without taking action!

  • The 2zz engine in the Celica was a great engine they were also used in the Elise the oil pump and other accessories just need to be upgraded to stand the revs.

    The V6 in the older 4runners and pickup trucks were also poorly designed by Toyota and blew a lot of head gaskets.

  • Will using 10w-40 instead of 5w-30 help slow the oil consumption? I did find out that changing the oil within 3000 miles does help as if the black gunk will clog up those holes in the piston. But what about the oil viscosity? Maybe the 5w-30 and some Lucas oil?

  • We have Toyota's in Pakistan.. It is known for quality and long lasting cars and very reliable. Even i have 4 cars and one nissan sentra same as it is in US and other 3 are all Toyota's.. We do change cars. Just upgrading to new generation.. Keeping same company

  • The oil consumption issue usually starts after 60K miles or so. Toyota has extended the warranty for vehicles with 2azfe engines to 10 years/150,000 miles. If your car is burning oil you have to take it in for a test. They will change the oil, fill it up and apply a seal to the oil cap. You will drive it for 1200 miles and bring it back in, then they will check the oil level. If consumption exceeds 1 qt, they will do the repair. I think you can have the test done up to 2 times.

  • Hey scotty. Which viscosity oil should I use in a 1gd Toyota diesel engine. Our atmospheric temperature is average 35 degrees Celsius on hot days

  • MY sisters Rav 4 had a recall. suprised she had received several other recalls but not the one for the engine. The place where she had the oil changes doen told her she was low about 3 quarts. She then found out about the recall and even Toyota changed her oil and had to bring it back aftyer so many milkes .. they put a seal ooiver th edrain and refill caps. She bought it back and it did fail.. They would not change the engine since it was past the deadline.( why did they bother checking it then??) She never recieved the notice.. Stay away from Toyota and their recall policies

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