FNN: News Now Stream 2/27/19

FNN: News Now Stream 2/27/19

. Watching the daily destruction of our civility to one another. Putting up silly things like this all right so it really unbecoming of Congress. It’s that sort of behavior [inaudible] That. I’m responsible for I’m responsible for your silliness because I did the same thing that you’re doing now 410- year. I protected Mr trump for ten years. And the fact that you pull up a news article that has no value to it and you want to use that is the premise for discrediting me. That I’m not the person that people cold at three o’clock in the morning would make you inaccurate in actuality would make you a liar. Which puts you into the same position that I am in. And I can only warn people the more people that follow Mr trump as I did blindly. Are going to suffer the same consequences that I’m suffering. What warning would you give young people? Who are tempted as you were? Would you encourage them not to wait ten years to see the light. But the advice would you give young people in particular young lawyers. So they do not abuse their bar license as you did. To what’s happened to me. I had a wonderful life I have a beautiful wife I have two amazing children. Hi chief financial success by the age of thirty nine I didn’t go to work for Mr trump. Because I had to I want to work for him because I wanted. To and I’ve lost it all. So if I’m not a picture perfect that’s the picture that should be up there. If I’m not a picture perfect example of what not to do. That’s the example that I’m trying to set for my children. You make mistakes in life and I’ve owned them and I’ve taken responsibility for them. And I’m paying a huge price as is my family so fat in and of itself isn’t enough to dissuade somebody from acting in the callous manner that I did. I’m not sure that. That person has any — Any chance very much like how I mean right now. A recurring theme in your testimony is concerned for your family safety. What specifically are you most concerned about? For the president. Unlike my calling for trump that has a thousand followers he’s got over sixty million people. And when Mr trump turned around early in the campaign and said I can shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and get away with it. I want to be very clear. He’s not sure the truth is you don’t know him I do. I’ve sat next to this man for ten years and I watched his bac. I’m the one who started the campaign. And I’m the one who continued in twenty fifteen to promote them. So many things I thought that he can do that is just great and he can and he is doing things that are great. But this destruction of our civility to one another is just it’s out of control and when he goes on Twitter and he starts bringing in my in laws my parents my wife which he think is gonna happen. He’s causing he’s sending out the same message that he can do whatever he wants misses his country coming in order cracked. And hopefully something bad will happen to me or my children and my wife. So that I will not be hereand testify that’s what his hope was was to intimidate me and again I sent to everybody. Who joined and said that this is just not right? Have you ever seen Mr trump personally threaten people with the physical harm [inaudible] No. One he would use others. He would hire other people to do that I’m not so sure that it gets harder than they already working there. Everybody’s job at the trump organization is to protect Mr trump. Every day most of us and we were coming in and we were going to lie for him on some things. And that became the norm and that’s exactly what’s happening right now in in this country and it’s exactly what’s happening here in governments are. Thank you Mr chairman my time is expired [inaudible] John from. Thank you. Mister Adams the chairman can can we take a break [inaudible] Right now [inaudible] All right [inaudible] I that’s okay thank you Sir [inaudible] Thank you. Alright folks stay right here with us as they are taking a brief break right now — Michael Cole and wanted to break stay right here with us more news now coming up next X. trume is talking about everything that he says he knows all about the man. That he once cherished welcome to newshour grows Mike page thank you so much for joining us around a brief break right now. Michael Cohen requested that breaks supposed to happen anywhere from five to ten minutes so in the meantime everybody we’re gonna show you just a little bit of Michael Collins opening statement. Just a little bit ago this is where he calls press president trump a con man. And a racist so we’re going to bring that to your right here as we continue to wait for the par- To to resume. Good in my going yes [inaudible] Chairman Cummings. Ranking member Jordan. And members of the committee. Thank you for inviting me here today. I had this this committee to ensure that my family be protected from presidential threats. And that the committee be sensitive to the questions pertaining to ongoing investigations. I thank you for your help and for your understanding. I am here under. To correct the record. Answer the committee’s questions truthfully and to offer the American people. What I know about president trump? I recognize that some of you may doubt and attacked me on my credibility. It is for this reason. That I have incorporated into this opening statement. Documents that are irrefutable. And demonstrate that the information. You will hear is accurate and truthful. Never in a million years did I imagine. When I accepted a job in two thousand and? Seven to work for Donald Trump. That he would one day run for the presidency. To launch a campaign on a platform of hate and intolerance. And actively win. I regret the day I said yes to Mr trump. I regret all the help and support I gave him a long way. I am machine of my own failings. And publicly accepted responsibility for them. By pleading guilty in the Southern District of New York. I am ashamed of my weakness at my misplaced loyalty. Of the things I did for Mr trump in an effort to protect and promote him. Hi machine that I chose to take part. In concealing Mr trump’s illicit acts rather than listening to my own conscience. Buy a machine. To because I know what Mr trump is. He is a racist. He is a con man. And he is a cheat. He was a presidential candidate who knew that Roger stone was talking with Julianus ONJ about a week at least drop. On the Democratic National Committee emails. I will explain each in a few moments. I am providing the committee today with several documents. And these include. A copy of the check Mr trump road from his personal bank account. After he became president. To reimburse me for the hush money payments I made to cover up his affair. With an adult film star and to prevent damage to his campaign. Copies of financial statements from twenty eleven to twenty twelve and twenty thirteen that he gave to such institutions such as Deutsche Bank. A copy of an article with Mr trump’s hand writing on it. That reported on the auction of a portrait of himself. That he arranged for the better ahead of time. And then reimburse the bitter. From the account of his non profit charitable foundation. With the picture. Now hanging in one of his country clubs. And copies of letters I wrote at Mr trump’s direction. That threaten to his high school colleges and the College Board. Not to release his grades or SAT scores. I hope my appearance here today. My guilty plea and my work with law enforcement agencies are steps along a path of redemptio. That will restore faith in me and help this country. Understand our president better. And before going further. I want to apologize to each member. To use Congress as a whole. The last time I appeared before Congress. Keen to protect Mr trump. Today. I am here to tell the truth about Mr trump. I lied to Congress when Mr trump’s stop negotiating the Moscow tower project in Russia. I stayed that we stop negotiating in January of twenty sixteen that was false. Our negotiations continued for months later during the campaig. Mr trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress. That’s not how he operates. In conversations we had during the campaign. At the same time I was actively negotiating in Russia for him. He would look me in the eye and tell me there’s no Russian business and then go on to lie to the American people. By saying the same thing. In his way. He was telling me to life. They were at least a half a dozen times between the I will call kiss in January of twenty sixteen and the end of June. When he would ask me? How’s it going in Russia. Referring to the Moscow tower project. You need to know that Mr trump’s personal lawyers reviewed and edited my statement to Congress about the timing. Of the Moscow tower negotiations before I gave it. To be clear. Mr trump knew of and directed the trump Moscow negotiations throughout the campaign. And lied about it. He lied about it because he never expected to win. He also — Lied about it because he stood to make hundreds of millions of dollars on the Moscow real estate project. And so I lied about it. To because Mr trump and made clear to me. Through his personal statements to me. That we both knew to be false. Hand through his lawyers to the country. That he wanted me to life. And he made it clear to me. Because his personal attorneys reviewed my statement. Before I gave it to Congress. Over the past two years. I have been smeared as a rat by the president of the United States. The truth is much different. Let me take a brief moment to introduce myself [inaudible] My name. Is Michael Deane Colin. And I am a blessed husband of twenty four years. And a father to an incredible daughter and so on when I married my wife. I promised her. That I would love her. I would cherish her and I would protect her. Has my father said countless times throughout my childhood. You my wife I knew my children. All of the air that I breathe. So to my Laura into my Sammy’s to my cheek. There’s nothing I wouldn’t do to protect you. I have always tried to live a life of loyalty friendship. Generosity and compassion. Squall lose my parents ingrained in my siblings and me since childhood. My father survived the Holocaus. Thanks to the compassion and selfless acts of others. He was helped by many who put themselves in harm’s way. To do what they knew was right. And that is why my first instinct has always been to help those in need. And mom and dad. I am sorry I let you down. As the many people that know me best would say. I am the person that they call at three AM if they needed help. I proudly remember being the emergency contact. For many of my children’s friends when they were growing up. Because their parents knew that I would drop everything and care for them as if they were my own. Last fall. I plead guilty in federal court. Two felonies for the benefit of at the direction of and in coordination. With individual number. One and for the record. Individual number. One is president. Donald J. trump. It is painful to admit. That I was motivated by ambition times. It is even more painful to admi. Many times I ignored my conscience and acted loyal to a man. When I should not have? Sitting here today. It seems unbelievable that I was so mesmerized by Donald Trump. That I was willing to do things for him. That I knew were absolutely wrong. For that reason. I have come here to apologize to my family. To my government. And to the American people [inaudible] Accordingly. Let me now tell you about Mr trump. I got to know him very well. Working very closely with him for more than ten years as his executive vice president and special counsel. And then as personal attorney when he became president. When I first met Mr trump he was a successful entrepreneur? Real estate giant. And then I come. Alright folks and now we are back out live right now Michael Colin — Set to do a parts too now all the testimony and let’s listen in here live on news now. Skaters in the Southern District of New York you also lied to banks to get loans. The prosecutors wrote quote to secure loans corn falsely understated the amount of did he was carrying a limited information with his personal financial statements. To induce a bank to land based on incomplete information and quote is that correct. That’s correct you lied on financial documents. So you lied to financial institutions in order to secure loans. So we’ve established you on your taxes you lot of banks and you have been convicted of lying to Congress it seems to me that there’s not much that you won’t lie about when you stand to gain from it. In fact the prosecutors for the Southern District of New York noted that each of your crimes quote. Their common sense characteristics with deception and being motivated by your personal greed and ambition. Is your appearance here today motivated by your desire to remain in the spotlight for your personal benefit. No ma’am. You have sought out ways to rehabilitate your image from taxi Vader banks Wangler and all around liar. To an honorable truthful man by appearing before cable news. I’m concerned you could be using your story and this congressional platform for your personal benefit. Such use a desire to make money from book deals. So can you can bet under oath. That you have not and will not. Pursue a book. Or movie deal based on your experiences working for the president [inaudible] No. One you cannot commit to making money off of a book or movie deal based on your work. You know what I just put this two parts to your question the first part of your question you asked me whether or not I had. Spoken to people regarding a possible book deal and I have and I’ve spoken to people who’ve sought me out regarding a movie deal no I didn’t ask you if you tell us if. I said can you commit under both that you will not. That you have not and will not pursue a book deal and I would not do that no. Okay. Can you commit under oath that you will not pursue opportunities to provide commentary for a major news network based on your experiences working for the president [inaudible] No. Can you commit under oath that you will not pursue political office in the state of New York. No. So you don’t commit. To changing your ways basically because you want to continue to use. Your background as a liar a cheater. A convicted liar to make money that’s what you want to do and that’s going to get me a book deal in a movie deal on television. And and a and a spot on television I’d I don’t think so well it appears that it will I’d yield. My time remainder my time Mister chairman Mr so — Coning you’re sensing statement to the court and just in December of last year you said I want to apologize to the people the United States you deserve to know the truth. Possibly months later buzzfeed news ran a story. That was the story in the country for a couple days. Busby story rain January seventeenth twenty nineteen on January eighteenth your counsel went on TV. And wouldn’t confirm or deny the story. The next day the special counsel’s office did something that never happened. Never happened they said the description of a specific statement to the special counsel’s office in the characterization of documents and testimony. Obtained by this office regarding Michael Collins congressional testimony are not accurate why didn’t your lawyer the day that he’s on TV when this story is the biggest thing in the news in the country why didn’t he denied the buzzfeed story. Because I didn’t think it was his responsibility to do that we are not the fact checkers for buzzfeed on TV to talk about the very store you committed to the courts when you were trying to get your sentence reduced. That you that the American people deserve to know the truth you had the golden opportunity to give them the truth on a false story the buzzfeed story and your lawyer did say a thing he acts actually he said this. I can’t confirm I can’t deny. You had an opportunity to do exactly what you told the judge you were going to do one month after you said it and you didn’t do it [inaudible] Why not? Again it wasn’t our responsibility to be the fact checker for the news agencies there is a sort of a couple of these on the the president says so far approximately. Nine thousand Phillies I got it. I got a second I’ll let you finish it chairman a pretty special calcium and can add these finish something they’ve never done they said that — Story was false now you can respond. To my response March the president has told something over nine thousand lives to dat. Do I ask Mister Davis will miss the Monaco do I go on television in order to correct his mistakes when Mister universe rose on her palm and had no big subject you. Know and I I would like to know what time is it listen finish answering the question. And then we’re going to go to Mister Connelly. All I wanted to say is I just find it interesting Sir that between yourself and your colleagues that not one question so far since I’m here. Has been asked about president trump. That’s actually why I thought I was coming today not to not to confess the mistakes that I’ve made I’ve already done that and I’ll do it again every time you ask me about. Taxes for mistakes yes I made my mistakes or say it now again and I’m going to pay the ultimate price but I’m not here today in the American people don’t care about my taxes. They want to know what it is that I know about Mr trump and not one question so far has been asked about Mr trump’s Mister Connelly. Thank you Mister chairman [inaudible] Well. Mr Cohen said based on your testimony and your ten year experience — I think you can recognize the behavior. You’re being subjected to in the other side of the aisle [inaudible] Discredit slander [inaudible] Our use any trick in the book. To prevent your testimony from sticking. The idea that a witness would come to us whose plot. And you certainly are flawed. Means they can never tell the truth and there is no validity whatsoever to a single word they say. Would discredit every single core. The trial of organized crime in the history that states because all of them depend on someone who’s turned. It would make Griego. Null and void we couldn’t use anymore. This Congress historically has relied. All kinds of shady figures [inaudible] Who turned? One of the most famous who led to the decapitation of organized crime families in America Joe Bellott. Gradual here he was a witness and he committed a lot worse crimes than your convicted of Mr Cohen. So don’t be fooled by what my friends on the other side of the aisle are trying to do today. It is do everything but focus on the printable known as individual number one in the Southern District of New York if I recall. Is that correct Mr Khan does correct. Now Mr call I want to ask about something that’s not your testimony of that so far has not been made public. In our committee staff search of documents provided by the White House the or otherwise redacted or already in the public and I guess the White House thought that was funny. They made one mistake the White House there was an email from a special assistant to the president. To a deputy White House counsel. And the email is dated may sixteenth twenty seventeen and it says and I quote. Potus meaning the president requested the meeting on Thursday with Michael Cohen and Jay Sekulow. Any idea what this might be about do you recall. Being asked to come to the White House on around that time. With Mr Sekulow. May of twenty seventeen off the top of my head Sir I don’t — I recall being in the White House with Jay Sekulow was in regard. To V.. S. — The documents. The document production as well as my appearance it before the house select Intel — But I’m not sure if that specifically what a fine but what I will do is I will check. Out all my records and I’m more than happy to provide you with any documentation — Or a response to this question well that that’s you sort of touched on the presumably the purpose of the discussion at least among others. This occurred this meeting occurred. Just before your testimony before the select committee on intelligence here in the house is that correct. I believe so yes. Was that a topic of conversation with the president himself. If this is the specific instance that I was there with Mister Sekulow yes. So you had a conversation with the presently that states about your impending testimony before the house intelligence committee is that correct that’s correct. What was the nature of the conversation? He wanted me to cooperate. He also want to Justin shore. By making the statement and I said in my testimony there is no Russia there is no collusion — There is no — There is no — Deal he goes it’s all the witch hunt and it’s he does this stuff has to end. Did you take those comments to be. Suggestive of what might flavor your testimony. Sir he’s been saying that to me for many many months. And at the end of the day I knew exactly what he wanted me to sa. That why was Mister Sekulow in the meeting. Because he was going to be representing Mr trump — Going forward as one of his personal attorneys in this matter — Sort of a hand off me correct — In any way final question to the president in any way from your point of view coach you. In terms of how to respond to questions or the content of your testimony before a house committee. Again it’s it’s it’s difficult to answer because he doesn’t tell you what he wants what he does is. Again Michael there’s no Russia there’s no collusion does no involvement is no interference. I know what he means because I’ve been around him for so lon. So if you’re asking me whether or not that’s the message that staying on point that’s the party line that he created. That so many others are now touting yes that’s the message. That he wanted to reinforce German Sam is expected with domestic. Can you just clarify did you say that at times you would do what you thought Mr trump wanted you to do not specifically what he told you to do. At times yes so you just went on your intuition so. But my point my point is. This is this was an ongoing situation at the end just start in all right let’s. Let me finish well what’s the already knocked it didn’t start enough lead over me I started a mania and then yours early when were you disbarred. Yesterday from what I read in the paper yesterday when should you have been disbarred. Based on the legal counsel you were giving a client. I I don’t have the answer for your question how long were you- Counsel for Mr trump since two thousand and seven when is the first time you gave him bad legal advice or failed to inform him. Of his legal obligations as you as you testified today you did in the case of the payment to miss Clifford. When was the first time you did that would that qualify for disbarment? I don’t know some of the Bar Association. I think you. Should consult with the maybe occasionally on some of these things is going now I lost my little high sixes anybody — As anybody else promised to pay Mister Davis. For representing you. Know. Nobody has no are you offering. Question quickly — Just July you said in this is also in your testimony in the days before the democratic convention you became privy to a conversation that some of Hillary Clinton’s emails would be leaked that correct. Correct okay was that in you said late July do you know the exact day — I believe it was either the eighteenth or the nineteenth and I would. Guess that it would be on the nineteenth but was definitely July I believe so yes. You know that was public knowledge in June. This was Mister sausage and I’d like to submit this unanimous consent to submit this for the record without objection. Mister science reported to the media on June twelfth that those emails would be late so I’m not saying you have fake news I’m saying have the news. And there’s really not much to yield the remainder of my time to Mr Higgins. Thank you Sir. Mr going UP number quoting you close again early said I spent last week looking through boxes to find documents that would support your accusations were those boxes good Sir. Where are those boxes are in your garage — There to storage and the odd though there’s not box as it should have been turned over to investigative authorities door to many criminal investigations even subject. To serve these the boxes that were returned to me. Rate include data pertinent to crimes that you’ve committed should they not have been turned over remanded to investigative authority admit to Lanny Davis no these boxes. Non German nominally in charge you may answer the question I don’t understand his questions are well [inaudible] Good morning [inaudible] Going. Morning thank you chairman Cummings for convening this hearing thank you Mister Cohn for voluntarily testifying this morning. Mr calling you were the executive vice president and special counsel for the trump organization correct. I was the executive vice presidents bushel council to Donald J. trump. And special counsel means you’re the attorney for him is that right. Just means I was there in order to handle matters that he felt were significant and important to him individually. And those included legal matters yes Sir. Sir as a former attorney you’re familiar with legal documents known as non disclosure agreements or Andy ace is that right yes. Sir I’m sure you know that NDA is properly written in scope. Can be reasonable in certain business contacts. But they can also be abused to create a chilling effect to silence people. As we’ve seen in the me to move men and and other places isn’t that right Mister Khan. Yes. Mr call in the trump organization days. Extensively isn’t that right that’s correct. Ms Cole and I’m reading from a recent Washington post article regarding the language in one of these types of indie ETS where the terms were described as very broad [inaudible] For instance. The terms confidential information. Was defined to be anything that quote Mr trump insists remain private or confidential including but not limited. To any information with respect to the personal life political affairs and or business affairs of Mr trump. Or any family member close quote to those terms sound familiar to you I’ve seen the document. In fact there’s a class action lawsuit filed this month by former trump campaign worker Jessica Denson that this NDA language is illegal because it is too broad. Too vague. And would be used to retaliate against employees who complained of the legality or wrong doing. Would you agree that in the use of the Andes of these types of N. D. A.’s with this type of language. And later when Donald Trump sought to enforce them. That he intended to prevent people from coming forward with claims of wrongdoing [inaudible] Yes. Would you agree that the effective the use of these and DA’s and their enforcement was to have a chilling effect on people or silence them from coming forward. I apologize — If you wanted to find chilling I’m not sure — Just step that he would. And using these MDA’s or trying to enforce them would basically try to keep people silent. That was the goal. And nothing at the trump organization was ever done unless it was run through president Donald Trump correct that’s a 100% certain. Okay. Mr Cohen do you believe that there are people out there toda. Either from the president’s business or personal life. Who are not coming forward to tell their stories of wrongdoing because of the president’s use of and DA’s against them? I’m sorry Sir I don’t know the answer to that question. Okay [inaudible] Search. I have a couple other questions for you when was the last communication with president trump or someone acting on his behalf. So. I don’t have the specific date but it was awhile ago. Okay do do you have a general time frame. I would suspect to lose some. Within two months post the raid. Of my on my home okay so hotel early fall of last year. Generally generally and what did he or his — Agent communicate to you in. Unfortunately this topic is actually something that’s being investigated right now by the Southern District of New York. And I’ve been asked by them — Not to discuss and not choose fair enough. Is there any other wrongdoing or illegal act. That you are aware of regarding Donald Trump that we haven’t yet discussed today yes and again those are part of the investigation is currently being looked at by the Southern District of New York. Sir — Congressman Cooper asked you about — Whether you or were you aware of any physical violence committed by president trump I just have a couple quick questions. Do you have any knowledge of president trump abusing any controlled substances. I’m not aware of that no. Do you have any knowledge of president trump being delinquent on any alimony or child care payments among aware of any of that. Do you have any knowledge of president trump arranging any health care person procedures for any women not his family. I’m not aware of that no. Thank you I yield back thank yo. Thank you chairman. Mr going can you tell me the significance of may New York fot objection so ordered. It’s it’s fine. Maternity nursing. Okay this memo states that you committed four distinct federal crimes over a period of several years you’re motivated to do so by personal greed and repeatedly look used her power to influenc. For deceptive ins. He goes on to say that — You were. That they each involved they were distinct in the harms with their common set of characteristics and they involve deception and were each motivated by personal greed and ambition — There’s a lot we don’t know in regards to this investigation here’s what we do now we know that you were expecting a job at the White House and didn’t get it. You may millions lying about your close access to the president you have a history of lying for personal gain including. That’s banks about your accountant to law enforcement in your family the Congress the American people. The Southern District of New York New York you said that you did all this at a blind loyalty to Mr trump but your sentencing memo said states this. This is not an act that a blind loyalty is Colin suggest Colin was driven by a desire to further. Ingratiate himself with potential future present for homes political said success calling himself claimed credit. For now we’re in a search for truth. And I don’t know chairman how we’re supposed to ascertain the truth in this quagmire of the hearing when the best witness we can bring before this is already been convicted. Of lying before us. And what’s sad is the American people have seen this play out before we have people. In prominent positions. Fail and then couple years later the get a book deal now you’re set to go. To to jail for a couple years. We come out with a multi million book deal that’s that’s not bad a live in. And so my question is is will you — Today’s. Well you today to commit to donate any further proceeds to book deals to film reviews to charity. Now. Thank you Michael for the Gemin- Help with Jeff again you now feel a service manual may I may I think may I finish with the gentleman will yield to Mister meadows. Jim minute maid and just going – Says it on if I may finish my hit Mister Cohen a these yield in may and so I didn’t any letter might my response. Listen. Every mission in maintenance to trim and finish my response our to respond answer this question please. Mister Mister Cohen everything’s been made of your lies in the past. Offense to not have that accurately so when when were you lying either on the testimony to me earlier today or when you fill out the form. Germans time has expired. Mr calling you may answer his question and then whatever you want to stay on as he is with his questions unfortunately I don’t have it it’s for his question. But as a rule I no no no no no we don’t run that Mister chairman as it. Relates. To the German is out of order I I’d I you said he does not have an answer. Mister chairman when when we were in the majority. With all due respect Mister chairman hold on ordered that the gentleman is it said he didn’t have an answer. And your government on over your time. He’s under oath to tell the truth one is not. You’ll you’ll have time to answer a question I just a question Mister chairman just a question. Mr asking Mister. Mister asking Mr going thank you for your composure today our colleagues are not upset because you lied to Congress for the president. They’re upset because you stop to lying to Congress the president now you’ve described the trump campaign is a once in a lifetime money making opportunity the greatest. Infomercial of all time I think you said. And this may be the most transient observation of your old testimony do you think the trump campaign we’re presidency ever stopped being about. Making money for the president his family yes. When did it stop being that when he won the election? And it what it become about at that point. Then it had to be about figuring out what to do here in Washington. Can you carefully explained to America how the hush money payments to Karen McDougal and stormy Daniels worked can you carefully explained what catching kill is. Short. I received a phone call regarding. Both Karen McDougal as well as stormy Daniels obviously different times. Stating that there were issues that were going to be. Damaging to Mr trump. With the story Daniels it started in twenty eleven when she wanted to have something removed from the website. And that was the first time I met Keith David I spoke with Keith Davidson her then acting Attorney. And we were successful in having it taken down from the website. Until years later did right by – By around the time of the campaign did they come back and they ask [inaudible] What? What are you going to do now because she’s? Back on the trail trying to sell the story. At which point in tying David **** on behalf of the national Enquirer. Reached out. To her and her attorney in order to go take a look at lie detector test. That would prove that she was telling the truth. They then contacted me and told me that she was telling the truth at which point again all the time she took a lie detector test allegedly a lie detector test and was seen by. An employee of the national choir. At which point in time I went straight into Mr trump’s office I explain why this time it’s different than another time okay that when you say different other time were there other women paid sexual hush money by Donald Trump or his organization was it said. Standard operating prognosis so you’re not aware of any other cases were taking place I’m not aware of any of the case that Mr trump. Paid so which brings us to the Karen McDougal he was supposed to pay. He was supposed to pay a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars for the life story of Karen McDougal. For whatever the reason may be he elected not to pay it David **** was very angry because there was also other monies that David had expended on his behalf. Unfortunately David never got paid back either for David **** had done this in other cases of other mistresses are women. Other sort of some circumstances yes okay not all of them had to do with women. Are are you aware of anything that the president — Has done at home or abroad and that may have subjected him to war may subject him to extortion or blackmail. I am not no. Okay — Are you aware of any video tapes that may be the subject of extortion or blackmail. I’ve heard about these tapes for a long time I’ve had many people contact me over the years — I have no reason to believe that the tape exists in December two thousand fifteen down from was asked about his relationship with Felix seder a convicted felon and real estate developer he replied Felix later boy. Have to even think about it I’m not that familiar with them — Why did the trump endeavor to hide his relationship with Felix satyr and what was his relationship? Well he certainly had a relationship Felix was a partner in a company called bay rock that was involved in the deal of the trump soho hotel. On as well as I believe the trump fort Lauderdale project. Why did he want to distance himself that’s what Mr trump because he did since since since since self when? Things go bad for someone and at that point in time was going bad for Mr seder. You said you lied to Congress about trump’s negotiations to build — His Moscow tower because he made it clear to you that he wanted you to live one of the reasons you knew this is because quote. Mr trump’s personal lawyers reviewed and edited my statement to Congress about the timing of the Moscow tower negotiations before I gave it so this is a pretty breathtaking claim — And I just want to get to the facts here which specific lawyers reviewed and edited your statement to Congress on the Moscow tower negotiations and did they make any changes to your statement. There were changes made — Additions are Jay Sekulow for one with the changes about the timing the question of how much time has expired you may answer that there were there were. Several changes that were made including — How we were going to handle that message? Mr grows that we’ve finished yes so the the message of course being — The length of time that the trump tower Moscow project stayed and remained on a life. That was one of the changes yes they were open. Yeah first of all I like to clear up something I just told him that bothers me — You started off your testimony and you said anything in response to some question this e motion I wish it was but it’s not. I’d like to yield some time — To congressman Jordan. Your to the dollar from North Carolina and Mr going I’m gonna come back to the question I asked before with regards to your false statement that you submitted. To Congress. On here it was very clear that it asked for contracts with foreign entities. Over the last two years have you had any foreign contract with foreign entities where there is no bar as with a Korean air lines or Kazakhstan BTA bank. Your testimony earlier said that you had contracts with them. In fact you wanted all these are I believe it’s because about lobbying I did no lobbying on top. I’m not ask about lobbying mystical and they are not government agency. Have — Input on track traded companies do you have for contracts. I currently have no form did you have foreign contracts over the last two years. Foreign contracts contracts with foreign entities did you have judges yes yes why did you put him on the form it says it’s a criminal offense to not put him on this form for the last two years why did you not do that. Because those foreign. Companies that you’re referring to are not government company said that it says non governmental Mr going you side by the told me is being non governmental. And write it says for an agency it is says foreign countries do you want us to read it to you I I I read it and it was reviewed by my counsel and I am a non government employees it was not lobbying. And they are not has nothing to do with lobbying it says is a criminal offense did not list all your foreign contracts. That’s what it says. Well then I’m gonna take a look at it before I leave — You’ve heard how it will and hopefully I will amended prior to leaving because that’s not the way I read your document it you know it’s just one more example Mr Coen. Obvious guarding the truth okay long one asks one other. Were you advised or what is your counsel advised to withhold your written testimony to the latest possible date is John dean said last night on CNN. Was it my what. Were you advised or was your counsel advised to withhold your written testimony to this committee. At the latest possible date to get it to this committee at the latest possible date as John dean said that he advised you. We we answer no no we will be never advised me with John dean. I’ve never spoken with Johnny Depp has he spoken to your attorney I I I don’t I’ve never spoke last longer journeys righ. This night total eleven twelve o’clock can you tell me what you’ve been coming for some time I made and what. If what if. We were working till eleven twelve o’clock last night to finish every so you were writing it last night Mr going [inaudible] To all. We were made and it’s all the way through the night. I’m sorry thank you Mister chairman. Mr Cohen. In November two thousand and thirteen president Donald Trump testified under oath. In a lawsuit related to the failed real estate project trump international hotel and tower in fort Lauderdale. During the deposition president trump was asked about his knowledge of Felix seder. A Russian born real estate developer and convicted member of the Russian mafia. Who according to press reports pled guilty for his role in a forty million stock manipulation scheme? It is worth noting as well publicized a direct relationship between the Russian mafia in the Kremlin. Over the years president trump was asked how many times he interacted with convicted Russian mobster Felix satyr. In twenty thirteen president trump testified to that quote. Not many. If you were sitting in the room right now I really wouldn’t know what he looked like [inaudible] Unquote. Mr Cohen as you previously testified isn’t it true that president trump new convicted Russian mobster Felix stater in two thousand and thirteen when he made that statement. Yes. Isn’t it true that because of it Mr cedars relationship to the trump organization. That he had an office in the trump tower. And on the twenty sixth floor was to try to twenty six four’s important why because it’s Mr trump’s floor so he had an office on the same for as president trump. In fact his office when he left became my office. It is it also true that convicted Russian mobster seder even had business cards indicating that he was a senior advisor to Donald Trump as reported by The Washington Post yes. Did convicted Russian mobsters seder the rent for his office no he did not. So based on those facts. Isn’t it true that president trump. Misled at best or worst lie under oath [inaudible] Yes [inaudible] This was [inaudible] And in December two thousand fifteen president trump was asked again. About his relationship to convicted Russian mobster Mr satyr by reporter for the Associated Press. He stated quote. Felix seder boy. I have to even think about it on quote. He added quote I’m not that familiar with him on quote. Mister Cohn where would we find business records that explain the president’s relationship to the convicted Russian mobster Felix sator would those be in the trump organizations files. Baby in the trump organizations files they would be cece’s to pay rock which was the name of this to say there’s company — I suspect honest to say there’s email address possibly hard files. In position — Of Mr satyr. And when you say in possession of the trump organization where. It depends upon who the attorney was that was working on it now it would probably be. Up in a box — Off site they have storage facility that they are old files it addicted in addition to convicted a Russian mobster seder do you know of any other ties to convicted or alleged mobsters president trump may have. I am not aware. Is it true that many people with ties to Russia ultimately bought condos in trump properties usually for cash and if so. How many are we talking ten twenty fifty I’m not honestly Sir I’m not aware of any — The statement that was you’re referring to I believe is made by the error occurred on and I’d I don’t agree with it so are you aware of any cash purchases by Russian. Oligarchs and family members of trump properties. I’m not aware of that I can tell you when you say cash mean walking in with a satchel of rules. Of the answer is I’ve never seen that happen I’ve ever heard of it I will tell you when we sold Mr trump’s property in Palm Beach. The home for ninety five million dollars came in by wire. And that came from — Mister Bolivia was another question you also talked about. Zidane trump doing negotiations throughout the campaign regarding. Of the trump tower in Moscow — Which he directly involved in those to get the negotiations and if so how do you know. Well. The answer is yes it is it relates to negotiations it was merely. Follow ups as to what’s currently happening what what’s happening with Russia meaning he wanted me to give them a status report. The problem with this is that the project never advanced because they were unable Mr said was unable to provide me with proof that somebody owned or controlled the piece of property that we can actually build on Germans time as this party to March. Mr Cohen — Why did Mr trump choose to hire you and why did he trust you with the various tasks that you perform from? I don’t know so you would have to ask him that question. Well — We’ve heard here that you have bad character you’ve admitted to that over the years. You have no idea why he chose to hire you. In two thousand and six I was asked by don junior to come meet with his father I did he then followed up by asking if I would take a look at an issue that. Was occurring at trump world tower with the board. I went ahead and I looked into it and I found that the statements that with the board with making accurate. And the reason don came to me is because I had an apartment there for investment my parents had an apartment there my in laws live there. Friends of wind will blow it is a big block from a from a brokerage company we’ve got a good price on each unit [inaudible] And ultimately turned over the board and I became actually the treasurer of the board. Of because the out of control spending was going to put the building into bankruptcy. And I was proud to say that within a year we had. Plus million dollars versus minus. One three the end of the day Mr trump appreciated that and he test me with something else was to handle a problem that. Don junior had — Created in terms of the busines- Mounted a license deal and we resolve that and then on top of that east the third time Mr trump had asked me to take a look at the third. Trump entertainment resorts — Chapter eleven reorganization because he had a series of questions that he wanted answered I read these two stacked books — Gave him the answers that he needed. And with that he and the next time I was sitting in his office and he asked me. If I was happy at the sleepy old firm that I was with I said yes he said would you rather work for me nice of you offer me a job. And he said. Yeah and we’ve negotiated I actually never went back to my office part. But you suggested that the president. Sometimes communicate his wishes indirectly. For example you sai. Quote Mr trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress that’s not how he operates and quote. Can you explain how he does this sure it would be no different if I said that’s the nicest looking tie I’ve ever seen. Isn’t it. What do you need you can fight with him? The answer’s no six hits the nicest looking tired of receiving. That’s how he speaks he doesn’t give you questions he doesn’t give you orders. He speaks in a code and I understand the code because I’ve been around him for a decade. It’s your precious that others who work for him understand the code as well. In most people yes. Is going on I don’t know whether we should — Believe you today. But I’m going to ask you — This one last question. What is the truth that you know? President trump fears most. That’s tough questions Sir. I’ll I don’t I don’t have an I don’t have an answer for that. One what is he fear most. What’s the truth that he fears most. From your perspective. And again I don’t know whether we should believe year today but you. It’s it’s a tough question sorry I don’t even have a it’s a question. Let me ask you this. What principles have you chosen to follow in your life [inaudible] And if you wish to follow different principles now. I’ve always tried to be a good person I’ve tried to be a great friend. Though in many I think over forty statements written in my support. To the sentencing judg. I have friends who I treat incredibly well that I know for over forty years and I treat people after forty minutes the same exact way — Did I do my perfect no die make mistakes yes have I made mistakes absolutely. I’m gonna pay the consequences for it. Put. At all I would like to do is be able to get my life back to protect my wife my children supporting grow old that’s pretty much where I’d like to b. If you feel yourself you’re following a different set of principles now than you followed throughout your life I I do and I’m trying. I’m I’m trying very hard I thank you for your questions is some of the other one Sir. Really make it difficult to try. To show some redemption. Of but yeah. I am I am trying. I am trying. There thank you thank you [inaudible] Michelle. Thank you Mister chairman. I want to mention really quick a clarification on the truth in testimony form. At the the mention was around whether it talks about that foreign entities at all and the question is in facts whether witnesses have any contracts or payments originating with a foreign government. It does not cover all foreign entities just foreign government entities so Mister Cohen what I’d like you to ask you to do is review this issue over lunch. With your attorneys and if you need to amend your form we ask that you do that before the conclusion of today’s hearing. I also I represent a purple district I did not come here for partisan bickering and facts I actively wanted to avoid it. So when I ask these questions today it is not as someone who has a vendetta against the president. It’s as someone who comes from generations of service members who swore an oath to obey the orders of the president of the United States and who along with myself. And every single other person up here swear to uphold and defend the constitution of the United States. My forefathers served their country they serve their commander in chief. And they serve the idea that America is free and just and that the law of the land rules us all. Especially those in the highest levels of our government. So I ask these questions to help determine whether our very own president committed felony crimes while serving in the oval office including efforts to conceal payments that were intended. To mislead the public and influence the outcome of an election. I hope to god that is not the case. So Mr Cohen on January twenty second. Twenty eighteen just days after the Wall Street journal broke the story that Mister Cohen paid a hundred thirty thousand dollars to Stephanie Clifford to silence her during the twenty sixteen presidential campaign. A nonprofit watchdog called common cause to with the call coming because filed a complaint with the department of justice and FEC alleging the payment to miss Clifford may have represented an illegal in kind contribution to the trump campaign. I asked that their complaint be entered into the record. On February thirteenth twenty eighteen Mister come when you sent a statement to the reporters that said quote I use my own personal funds to facilitate a payment of a hundred and thirty thousand dollars to miss Stephanie Clifford and neither the trump organization nor the trump campaign was party to the transaction. With miss Crawford and either reimburse me for the payment either directly or indirectly. Was the statement false. Statement is not false ID purposely left out Mr trump individually from that statemen. Okay but why did you say it that way. Because that’s what was discussed to do between myself Mr trump and Alan Weiss work so it was carefully worded yes ma’am. Great. Is a grown up a reporter for the magazine Vanity Fair has reported that she interviewed you’ve been very next day on February fourteenth twenty eighteen about the payment in reimbursement and she wrote quote. Last February fourteenth I interviewed co in a in his office about the statement he gave the FEC and what she said trump didn’t know about the storm made payment or reimburse them for it. Your call this meeting with the reporter. I do. The report also wrote trunk called while I was there I couldn’t hear much but he wanted to go over what the public messaging would be. Is that accurate it is did the president call you what you’re having a meeting with the reporter yes. Did the president call you to Courtney on public messaging about the payments to miss Clifford’s in or around February twenty eighteen yes. What did the president ask or suggest that you say about the payments are reimbursements? He was not knowledgeable of these reimbursements me wasn’t knowledgeable of my actions he asked you to say that. This movie. Great at in in addition to the personal check for thirty five thousand dollars in July. Twenty seventeen is there additional corroborating evidence that Mr trump will a sitting president of the United States directly reimbursed you hush money as part of a criminal scheme to violate campaign finance laws. There are eleven checks that I received for the year — The reason why eleven because as I stated before one had two checks. And you have copies of all of those I can get copies I’d have to go to the bank. So we will be able to get copies of all eleven checks that Mr trump. From provided to you as part of this criminal scheme it’s either from his personal account as was demonstrated in the exhibit. For it would come from the Donald J. trump account the trust account. Thank you Mr Cohen I yield back the remainder of my time [inaudible] Gives. Thank you chairman. Up in all on distance it here I’m new to the committee on our attorney. Sometimes journal your answers your comping or are a liar I think may be better attorney I don’t know — I’m looking through this saw. You coming here and you rail on the present United States commander in chief ways over. And across the Pacific Ocean trying to negotiate a deal to make this world safer. And Mister chairman let’s just have this committee at this tim. Out of the country is just is just a I think a new president. But you’ve graded comma racists a cheat — And I’ll tell you to pack his character and I’ve been with the present a little bit — And and I don’t I don’t see that the present I see a president who’s very consider is trying to make this country better for every American. And and and for you coming into this message is just repentance on your part is really unbelievable real repentance would be. Closer of your time and and and and and don’t don’t come back here and make allegations towards a man who can’t. A substantiate looking here from the remarks of the prosecutor of the Southern District New York. Of false statements to bang three which guilty was far. From S. isolated event was one of the launchers self serving lies Colin told numerous financial institutions earlier testimony I think I heard you say. The only is a home equity loan but apparently the prosecutors in York sector that there’s other financial things that you did. He also that they said managed to commit a series of crimes all withholding himself out as a licensed attorney an upstanding member of the bar — Also the Southern District of prosecutors said — Rotate your conscious of wrongdoing is fleeting that your remorse is minimal and that your instinct is to blame others is strong — So I’m kinda left here why. You work for the president for ten years before is president. If you have any sense of integrity that you’re trying to tell us you have now. It was that bad why don’t you leave if you want you want stock there’s because financial reasons you had ways to leave your attorney — And so that just kinda. You know it presence working tirelessly and you can make these allegations and you collect anytime you want looks like to me you’re trying to save face and the other questions that came out here was. Looks like to me you’re going to have a a very — Lucrative deal at some point in your life that you don’t look like you’re any closer to retirement should have some type of look for deal. And so one of my questions is has come up and there’s been talk about members of Congress and staff and and and you said there was some discussions with any of those discussions that you or your attorneys had. With members of Congress are staff for prosecutors — To convince considerations to favor or other considerations you your family in the future. No with the conversations were about the topics and of course there were things that. Originally. We could not speak about at the request of weather was the special counsel’s office for the Southern District or any of the other agencies including the the house select Intel. Or the Senate select Intel — Is Sir just for your personal [inaudible] Fiction here. I was asked to come here — Your chairman sent a letter. To Mister Davis. And I accepted so I’m here voluntarily allied I understand after and if you believe that on my tire understand I think it’s a political theaters or if you believe it’s not political figure for me and I take no pleasure. In saying anything negative about Mr trump you’ve met him for a short period of time. I’ve been with him for over a decade I’ve traveled with him internationally I’ve spent dinners with him. It doesn’t make me feel good about what’s going on here and is far as saving face I’m not sure how. Being. In front of the world being col. As she is world today went with his lucrative book deal none of which have come about. I think you that you’ll be pretty good in about five years are you a personal time to the term recommend. I thank you John for yielding — Early you said you started the campaign. That’s correct in twenty eleven you started the campaign for president I’d states for Donald Trump I certainly did Sir. Now that’s news. Should trump run dot com. Wow. Twenty eleven was my idea. I saw a document in the newspaper that said who would you vote for in. 20126%. Said Michael Michael and 16% and earn around — Said they’d vote for Donald. Trump as president because and I said to him Mr trump. Take a look at this as well would that be great and with that is where it all started. Okay like but I’m sure I’m sure he had never thought of anything like that until you came no I didn’t. Get a second I got eight second- What did you talk to Mr Shipp about? I spoke to Mr Schiff about topics. That were going to be [inaudible] Raised. At the upcoming hearing whoa. Not just what time the show are actually what you’re going to talk about the German time expired while Mister Sarbanes. Thank you Mister chairman — Thank you Mister Collins. I know the other side is suggesting that — You are. A incorrigible wiring that you’re lying here today. I can’t do you have a reaction . There might not have been. In a sense of protest to what was going to be false testimony that was gonna be provided. No Sir how it was the goal was to stay on message which is limited the relationship whatsoever with Russia — Use short there’s no Russian contacts is no rush inclusion is no Russian deals. That’s that’s the message that’s the same message that existed well before Mahdi need to come and testify. So it’s an example of of where this idea this. This mentality of your toe the line. Whatever the story line of the narrative of the day or the minds. For the year is gonna be you tow that line whether it results in. False testimony or not [inaudible] He I toe the party line. And I’m now suffering and I’m gonna continue to suffer for a while along with my family as a result of it so yes. Let me switch gears — Quickly before my time expires. And you may not have direct knowledge of some of these things which are offering us some very helpful — Perspective on how. The trump world operates and frankly another reason I find your testimony fairly compelling incredible. Is because a lot of the things you’re describing. A lot of them that hate you’re describing is very consistent. With what we all see every single day. So it’s not it’s not a leap for us. To arrive in the same place of perspective — Presented — I’m interested in in some of the activities around the inaugural- Committee the inauguration of the president there was a article — That appeared — In pro publica the watchdog group. About some negotiation on pricing of things at the trump. Hotel or looks like [inaudible] The the rental it was being quoted was. Substantially even double what you would expect to pay according to what the market — Should bear [inaudible] And so in effect in the sense that the trump hotel was charging to the inaugural even I couldn’t afford to stay there emitting yeah. And so I’m just curious do you have a sense of whether that kind of a practice. Is something that — Is consistent or inconsistent is it possible that kind of but charging could be done — Inside a trump operation. It did it did happen and germicidal like what I can say to you is I wasn’t part of the inaugural committee — I raised a lot of money for the inauguration. But I was not part of it and it was. A lot of things in that actually that issue is something that’s also. Obviously we’ve read about in the paper being investigated at the current moment thank you mistake ends. Thank you Mister chairman Mr call and so my heart to tell you so that. And I’m sorry for what your family is going through a feel for your family. The word tells us clearly that a man’s mouth this is destruction and his lips. Of this nature of his soul. And I see you a man trapped in that however I must tell you that — Arrested several thousand men. In your mind me many of them. The ones that immediately come home alone remorseful. At that time there actually booked. And while they’re incarcerated there quite penitent. And then return to their former selves. Back on the street [inaudible] So. Respectful to your family what they’re going through. Always a dynasty to tell you that that’s my sense of you good Sir. I’m gonna give you another opportunity to respond. What you brushed off earlier regarding your own statement on his testimony? From C. span notation at two hours and fifty seconds in [inaudible] Who’s dated. Regarding your credibility that you’re being accused of having no credibility that is exactly for that reason I spent the last week searching boxes. To find the information that I did. So you don’t have to take my word. For I want you to look at the documents and make your own decisions now the document you’re referring. To Mister gore other documents that you submitted in your what your testimony today is that correct that is clearly the end of it those documents to be worthy of evidence. For this oversight hearing today I leave that to you to decide I ask you again Sir and please don’t be incredulous as a serious question. Where all those boxes that contain? Documents worthy of evidence to be presented to Congress and why have they not been. Turned over to investigate an authorities looking into some of the many criminal activities Dutcher allegedly cooperating i. Where are these boxes who knows of the where is his treasure of evidence? The boxes that I’m referring to is that were in my law office when the FBI entered and seized documents Mister chairman I when I was at move as you get it in the dark days of noted with the gentleman I just stated. And that actions be taken for those boxes to be sees the reviews based upon proper. Warrant signed by a sitting judge. You noted earlier today [inaudible] Mr gone. Quieting gradually did one of my colleagues ask you regarding the television deal — As wonderment. Does your predicament could possibly get you on television. Is Charlie got John television today has it not Sir. Sorrows on television representing Mr trump going back into. Twenty eleven but I didn’t know you were until today really. Until until they did happy I rated you home. Most of America didn’t know you wore how many attorneys you thank Mister drop a sad through the course of his career. Quite a few out imagine you’re you’re just one it’s in a trap right now and I understand you’re trying to get out of it. You’re in a bind. But I ask you good Sir. Have you discussed film and book deals. With with your your stated guard attorney Mister Davis Lanny Davis. With Mister Davis you know but I have been approached by many people who are looking to do book deals movie deals and so on says he had a ride is an American. But it did it leads me back. To my instinct. Dad compares you to many of the men that are arrested. Tone of course of my career. Mister chairman. What with — Genet and that are that are. There are primary here in. To introduce the oversight committee the hundred sixteen Congress the American people. As manifested in the way that it [inaudible] Obviously is. This is an attempt. To injure our president allay some sort of soft cornerstone for future. Impeachment proceedings. This is the full intent. Of the majority ideal Mar made in thirty seconds to the ranking member. Mister Connor you said the United States Southern District of New York is not accurate and that statement. I’m sorry say that earlier you said that the United States Southern District of New York. Attorneys office that statement is not accurate he says not lie you said it’s not accurate you stand by that. Yes I do not want a role in the new administration of the the court try on Sir can connection concerns please. I got exactly the roles that I wanted there is no shame in being personal attorney to the president. I got exactly what I wanted I guess Mr trump for that job and he gave it to me all I’m asking me if I could but will cover that person was chairman. You’re saying that statement from the southern disturbing York attorneys is wrong I’m saying I didn’t write it and it’s not accurate all right. Thank you. Throughout. I thank you. One of the most significant events in the last presidential campaign of course was the dump of email stolen. From the Democratic National Committee dumped by wikileaks. Mr calling during your opening statement — Which isn’t it at the height of the election you testified. You are actually meeting with Donald Trump in July. Twenty sixteen when Roger stone happen to call. And tell Mr trump that he had just spoken to Juliana signage is that correct that is correct all right and you said that Mr assigned she told Mr trump. About an upcoming quoting your opening statement quote massive dump of emails that would damage Hillary Clinton’s campaign. So I want to ask you about Roger stone’s phone call to the president first follow up with that on speaker phone so you indicated via systems to trump is a black speaker phone that sits on his desk — He uses it quite often because of all the number of phone calls he gets now January of this year twenty nineteen The New York Times asked president trump. If he ever spoke to Roger stone in president trump answered and I quote. No I didn’t I never did. Was that statement by president trump true no it’s not accurate. And can you please describe for us to the best of your recollection you were present. Exactly what Mr stone said to Mr trump. It was a short conversation and you said Mr trump I just wanna let you know that I just got off the phone with Julia signage in in a couple of days there’s going to be a massive dump of emails. That’s going to severely hurt. The Clinton campaign and where is Mr trump and Mr a stone aware of where those emails came from. That I’m not aware of did Mr trump. Ever suggest then or later. To call the FBI to report this breach he never expressed that to me — Did the president. At that time or ever since in your knowledge — Indicate an awareness that this conduct was wrong [inaudible] No. The reason I ask is because on July twenty second on the eve of the democratic convention wikileaks published as you know the twenty thousand leaked internal DNC emails. Could your meeting with Mr trump have been before that date [inaudible] Yes. So Mr trump was aware of the up coming down. Before it actually happened. Yes right. In is there any right — Sir I don’t know whether he knew or not and I don’t believe he did what the sun the substance of the dump was going to be. Only that that was going to be a dump of emails and he was aware that before the dump occurred closer all right in are there any records that would corroborate the day of this meeting calendars perhaps. I’m not in possession but I believe again this is part of the special counsel. And today. In Mali best suited — To corroborate that information was anyone else present in the room during the call. I don’t recall for this one no Sir. Is there anyone else the committee should talk to about the president’s knowledge of the the wikileaks email dump. On again when he called. Rhona Graff I yelled out to Mr trump Rogers online. One which was regular practice in yes aren’t in during a news conference on July twenty seventh twenty sixteen then. Candidate trump public you publicly appealed. To Russia to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails and make them publicly stated and I quote Russia if you’re listening. I hope you’re able to find the thirty thousand emails that are missing. Not going back to Mr stone’s phone call to the president. Do you recall if Mr trump had knowledge of the wikileaks dumped at the time. Of his direct appeal to Russia. I am not [inaudible] But the call with Mr stone you believe us before. Yes this twenty seven yes I’m I’m sorry if you I I thought you to another different set of documents that got down to so. I was in Mr trump’s office was in the July eighteenth or nineteenth. And yes he went ahead I don’t know if the thirty five thousand or thirty thousand emails was what he was referring. To he certainly had knowledge right thank you just one last question — Mr Raskin had been asking you some questions and one of the things in your answer was that Mister Packer — Expended other monies to can you elaborate on what some of those other activities were sure there was this story about Mr trump having. A love child with an employee — But with an employee and actually the husband of the employee works. For the company as well. And there was a he elevator operator who claims that he overheard the conversation taking place between. One of Mr trump’s other executives and somebody me into paying like fifteen thousand dollars in order to buy that. Story to find out whether it was true or not. And that’s just one example of things that David had done over these was the reason why. In the recording. When David was looking to become the CEO of time magazine? We were concerned about we’ll call it the treasure trove of documents that have been created over the years that if he left. Somebody could open up the key to a drawer and find all this information so we’re going to look to buy. All of those life rights and so on demonstrate expired with Norman. That’s fine I join Mister hit comes when he begins and feeling for your family but have no legd other clients. I have recordings of people yes legally or illegally by believe that their legal. Did you tell. In New York state you don’t have to do that so you didn’t tell no I did not okay sometimes I also use the recordings for contemporary news no taking instead of writing it down. But I find it easier. If the shoe were reversed would you like a soda your your trusted lawyer recording you. I probably would not know that Sir it is is untrustworthy is something people just would not do. Now you bank loans that I just ran down did you have a default on any of these loans no Sir. So the bank didn’t take any los. No no bank has I’ve not in default I I’ve never filed bankruptcy — The he lock you referring — To I replace that from a different he lock — Paid off there is I owe no banks any money. About your medallion taxi cab to the E. you have to sell them so. Well the ones in Chicago yes I do have to sell — However — No I don’t and they are the industry is going through a major major correction because of ride sharing. It changed a lot of things the value of it has to be a surprise has the the so no bank would banks make you alone again based on your record actually they di. They did a posting yes — The the bank — Actually redid and they refinanced the entire package currently hostess yes okay have they never had to do a loan loss reserve for the projected losses I don’t know what they did but it’s still the same amount that I didn’t get the benefit of it no Sir. Most likely they did ABS on ought to commit. They may have done that Sir but that’s for their own banking it not for now is my law I know that if if they suspect you of lying and which you admitted. To it they suspect you of maybe not been able to make a loan payment they have a have to have a loan losses or that’s a hundred and 25% of what you. This twenty million that to pos- In their account — Twenty million plus so they get no interest on you know you place place for that the American public to deal for that bias but Sir. I’m not in default and current on and I’ve never owed any money to first Republic bank in fact at the time that I had the he lock I had more cash sitting. In that same bank. Then last quite a number been the he lock on my mortgage I’m buying have you ever been to Prague I’ve never been to Prague that right I’ve never been to the Czech Republic. Yeah my mouse button [inaudible] This fear. Yemen and thank you Mr count on page five of your statement you say and I quote you need to know that Mr trump. Personal lawyers reviewed and edited because there’s a camerae which I’m not so sure — Actually I’m certain it’s natural. I’ve heard about that tape for years I’ve known for five different people including folks from a MRI — Who have so but there are some tape that went up for auction correct I don’t believe that auction was real and I don’t believe anybody? I don’t believe Mr trump ever struck Mrs trump ever I don’t believe. And are you aware of anyone purchasing that tape then don’t believe it was ever you never saw this tape no ma’am and I know several people who want to go tried to purchase it. For catching kill purpose. It doesn’t exist that Mr trump would never to in my opinion it’s that’s that’s not that I’m an outlet to now — Is there a love child. There is not too late to the best of my no you would pay off someone. To odd numbers anymore it was a it might was David ***. Said he paid off someone about a love child that doesn’t exist correct was about fifteen thousand dollars. Okay — How many times did? Mr trump ask you to threaten an individual or entity on his behalf. Quite a few times fifty times more a hundred times more. Two hundred times more. Five hundred time probably. Over the over the ten years over the ten years he asked you and when you say threatening tone with litigation or com. Argument with — The termination of a nasty reporter that has is writing an article. What do you know about — Let’s go to your tape she said there’s probably a hundred tapes voice recordings voice recordings and will you make them available to the committee. If you would really like them. Did Mr trump datacom Jeff to gavel tenser. We would already. Mr trump. Did Mr trump tape any conversations. Not that I’m aware of no. Were you involved in the twenty five million dollars settlement to trump university. I had a had a role in that yes who pay the settlement. Leave it was Mr trump I don’t know the answer to that don’t know the answer but you were involved in the different aspect there’s some reference to a businessman in Kansas being involved in that are you familiar with and I’m not familiar with that know all right — Finally near my thirteen seconds left what do you want your children to know that I’m sorry for everything and I’m sorry for the pain that I’ve caused them. And which I can go back in time. Thank you for your back families some is part. For the to the members of the committee before we go to miss Miller. For your so that you can plan properly plan. Is a vote apparently coming up. In about. Ten to twenty minutes- And what we would do is we will recess. And we will come back listen up. Thirty minutes after the O. S. bowed begins. That that. Night in. Thirty minutes after it begins and we’ll do that properly right. Right miss Miller [inaudible] One I am very disappointed to have you in front of this committee today. Quite frankly. This isn’t the reason the people of West Virginia sent me to Congress. I find this hearing not in the best interest of the American people. This is another political game with the sole purpose of discrediting the president If it was not already obvious there are members here with a singular goal in Congress. To impeach president trump. To achieve this goal they will waste not only precious taxpayer dollars but also time in this committee and Congress as a whole. In fact they will go so far as to bring a convicted felon in front of our committee. We are supposed to take what you say Mr Cohen at this time. About president trump as the truth. But you’re about to go to prison for lying. How can we believe anything you say? The answer is we can’t. This begs the question. Why are those in the majority holding this hearing? I am appalled. We could be focused on actual issues that are facing America. Like border security. Neonatal abstinence syndrome or improving our nation’s crumbling infrastructure. Instead the Democrats are trying to grasp at straws. Let’s talk about this witness from his sentencing hearing in the Southern District of New York judge Polly stated. Mr Cohen pled guilty to a veritable smorgasbord of fraudulent conduct. We’ll for tax evasion making false statements to a financial institution. Illegal campaign contributions. And making false statements to Congress. Each of the crimes involved deception and each appears to have been motivated by personal greed and ambition. This is who we have in front of us today in our committee. Someone who is about to be sent to prison for three years for evading his taxes deceiving a financial institution. Lying to Congress among other counts. One of the most appalling facts about this hearing is that Mr Cohen has used his experiences with president trump. Both before and after he was elected for his own greed and profit. I’d like some yes or no answers. Isn’t it true you tried to sell a book about your time with president trump and titled. Trump revolution from the tower to the White House understanding Donald J. trump. Yes that that happened. Early on when I was still even part I believe of the RNC. And this book deal which you had with hatchet books was worth around five hundred thousand dollars isn’t that correct no more ma’am. How much more thing was about seven fifty while? Mr Cohen I I did turn it down. Given that you continue to profit from publicly discussing your time with Mr trump. I worry that this committee hearing the majority has given you will only serve as a platform for you to continue to lie and sensationalize and exaggerate wherever it suits yo. Do you plan to pursue another book deal about your experiences [inaudible] Yes. I would presume this book would be a little different than your latest Pat pitch. But your new angle my please some new fans. Anything to sell books. Mr chairman we’ve canceled hearings on child separation and on other issues that are close to my heart for this media circus. What a waste of time and money? For a man who has gladly exploited the name of the president to promote his own name and fill his own pockets. It pains me that we are sitting here adding another chapter to his book. Thank you and I yield the related my time to Mr Jordan. I thank the gentlelady for for yelling earlier Mister Cohen — Delay from California talk about this — This tape I’m I’m I’m sorry so I can hear you earlier the jelly from California talk about this tape this elevator tape that you said does not exist that’s correct I do not believe it exists but his eyes also your testimony that the trump team was willing to pay. To make sure a story about a non existent tape — Never became public. No Sir that’s not what that’s not what I said they were willing to stop a false tape we looked. We learned that this tape was potentially on the market and that it existed and so what we did is. Exactly what we did with all the other catching kill. We look for it and if in fact that it did exist we would have tried to stop. That’s what I would have it on ball state it’s not worth it I’ve never got hurt in and I can assure you one thing about Mr trump many things he would never ever do something like that I don’t see it. That way. Thank you Mister chair Mister Colin I’d like to ask you more about the details of the a hundred and thirty thousand dollar payment you made to Stephanie Clifford. The adult film actress known as stormy Daniels in order to purchase their silence shortly before the twenty sixteen election. First according to documents filed by federal prosecutors in New York you created a shell company called the central consultants LLC is that correct it’s correct. And you created this company for the purpose of making the payment to miss Clifford is that correct a most of the things ye. You can use the home equity line of credit to fund the account in the name of the central consultants LLC is that correct that’s correct. You then wired a hundred thirty thousand dollars to the attorney representing this Clifford at that time and wrote in the memo field for the why of the word quote retainer is that correct correct. Can you tell us why you decided to use this complicated process to make this payment. Well I’m starting an LLC is not a sophisticated means. Pay for it they open it for you. And the reason that I used the home equity line


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