Donald Trump’s ICE Chief Defends Raid Leaving Children Crying | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC

Donald Trump’s ICE Chief Defends Raid Leaving Children Crying | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC


ADMINISTRATION RAN WHERE JEFFREY EP SPEEN DIED. EP SPEEN DIED. AN ACTIVIST DEMANDING GUN AN ACTIVIST DEMANDING GUN CONTROL FROM MITCH McCONNELL. CONTROL FROM MITCH McCONNELL. ALL OF THAT TONIGHT. ALL OF THAT TONIGHT. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION DEFENDING ITS PLAN TARGETING LOW DEFENDING ITS PLAN TARGETING LOW INCOME LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. INCOME LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. IT’S BASICALLY BECOME A NEW IT’S BASICALLY BECOME A NEW FLASH POINT, A FULL DEFENSE OF FLASH POINT, A FULL DEFENSE OF THIS RATHER UNUSUAL CHANGE TO THIS RATHER UNUSUAL CHANGE TO IMMIGRATION POLICY, AN ATTEMPT IMMIGRATION POLICY, AN ATTEMPT TO PUNISH LEGAL IMMIGRANTS IF TO PUNISH LEGAL IMMIGRANTS IF THEY PARTICIPATE IN LEGAL THEY PARTICIPATE IN LEGAL PROGRAMS LIKE GETTING FOOD PROGRAMS LIKE GETTING FOOD ASSISTANCE OR PARTICIPATING IN ASSISTANCE OR PARTICIPATING IN MEDICAID. MEDICAID. DONALD TRUMP’S TOP IMMIGRATION DONALD TRUMP’S TOP IMMIGRATION OFFICIAL KEN CUCHE ANY LITTLE OFFICIAL KEN CUCHE ANY LITTLE TODAY SAYING THE STATUTE OF TODAY SAYING THE STATUTE OF LIBERTY POEM SHOULD BASICALLY BE LIBERTY POEM SHOULD BASICALLY BE REWRITTEN BASED ON THIS NEW REWRITTEN BASED ON THIS NEW TRUMP POLICY REQUIRING TRUMP POLICY REQUIRING IMMIGRANTS TO PROVE THEY’RE IMMIGRANTS TO PROVE THEY’RE UNLIKELY TO NEED NED PUBLIC UNLIKELY TO NEED NED PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. ASSISTANCE.>>>WOULD YOU ALSO AGREE THAT>>>WOULD YOU ALSO AGREE THAT EMMA LAZARUS’S WORDS ETCHED ON EMMA LAZARUS’S WORDS ETCHED ON THE STATUTE OF LIBERTY, GIVE ME THE STATUTE OF LIBERTY, GIVE ME YOUR POOR ARE PART OF THE YOUR POOR ARE PART OF THE AMERICAN ETHOS. AMERICAN ETHOS.>>HAD THEY CERTAINLY ARE.>>HAD THEY CERTAINLY ARE.>>IT’S KIND OF A TROLLING.>>IT’S KIND OF A TROLLING. TRUMP’S IMMIGRATION CHIEF TRUMP’S IMMIGRATION CHIEF RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE REAL RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE REAL POWERS SAYING SURE, GIVE ME YOUR POWERS SAYING SURE, GIVE ME YOUR TIRED AND YOUR POOR BUT AND TIRED AND YOUR POOR BUT AND ENDING HIS OWN EDITION, STAND ON ENDING HIS OWN EDITION, STAND ON THEIR TONE FEET. THEIR TONE FEET. A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL A LOT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL A LOT OF SEN MENTALITY FOR AT LEAST THE SEN MENTALITY FOR AT LEAST THE RHETORIC IF NOT THE REALITY OF RHETORIC IF NOT THE REALITY OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY’S GOALS. THE STATUE OF LIBERTY’S GOALS. BUT IT’S ALSO VERY DIFFERENT BUT IT’S ALSO VERY DIFFERENT FROM JUST HOURS BEFORE WHEN HE FROM JUST HOURS BEFORE WHEN HE COMMENTED ON THE VERY SAME COMMENTED ON THE VERY SAME TOPIC. TOPIC. TAKE A LISTEN. TAKE A LISTEN.>>YOU WERE COMPLEMENTING A>>YOU WERE COMPLEMENTING A PUBLIC CHARGE RULE FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC CHARGE RULE FOR THE FIRST TIME. TIME. ISN’T THAT SEPTEMBERMENT, GIVE ISN’T THAT SEPTEMBERMENT, GIVE US YOUR TIRED, YOUR POOR, STILL US YOUR TIRED, YOUR POOR, STILL OPERATIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OPERATIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OR SHOULD THOSE WORDS COME DOWN OR SHOULD THOSE WORDS COME DOWN OFF THE STATUE? OFF THE STATUE?>>I’M NOT PREPARED TO TAKE>>I’M NOT PREPARED TO TAKE ANYTHING DOWN OFF THE STATUE OF ANYTHING DOWN OFF THE STATUE OF LITTLE BIT. LITTLE BIT.>>IVE GIVE ME YOUR TIRED AND>>IVE GIVE ME YOUR TIRED AND YOUR POOR WHO CAN STAND ON THEIR YOUR POOR WHO CAN STAND ON THEIR OWN TWO FEET AND WILL NOT BECOME OWN TWO FEET AND WILL NOT BECOME A PUBLIC CHARGE. A PUBLIC CHARGE.>>MR. CUCCINELLI SAYING HE’S>>MR. CUCCINELLI SAYING HE’S NOT GOING TO TAKE IT DOWN AND NOT GOING TO TAKE IT DOWN AND NOW PUTTING UP HIS OWN NOW PUTTING UP HIS OWN REVISIONS. REVISIONS. THIS IS NOT JUST OBVIOUSLY A THIS IS NOT JUST OBVIOUSLY A RHETORICAL DISCUSSION. RHETORICAL DISCUSSION. THAT’S NOT WHY IT’S LEADING THE THAT’S NOT WHY IT’S LEADING THE NEWS TONIGHT. NEWS TONIGHT. THIS IS VERY, VERY REAL. THIS IS VERY, VERY REAL. AND THIS ATTEMPT TO THE SORT OF AND THIS ATTEMPT TO THE SORT OF DEFEND THE TARGETING OF LOW DEFEND THE TARGETING OF LOW INCOME LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMES INCOME LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMES WITH A CONTEXT. WITH A CONTEXT. IT COMES OF COURSE, AFTER THESE IT COMES OF COURSE, AFTER THESE HEART BREAKING ACCOUNTS THAT HEART BREAKING ACCOUNTS THAT EMERGED FROM THE FALLOUT OF THE EMERGED FROM THE FALLOUT OF THE MASTIFF I.C.E. RAID THAT LEFT MASTIFF I.C.E. RAID THAT LEFT MANY FAMILIES SEPARATED AND LEFT MANY FAMILIES SEPARATED AND LEFT UP THIS PUBLIC CRY, CALL IT UP THIS PUBLIC CRY, CALL IT TESTIMONY, IF YOU WANT, THAT TESTIMONY, IF YOU WANT, THAT WE’VE ALL HEARD NOW AND THAT’S WE’VE ALL HEARD NOW AND THAT’S WORTH HEARING AGAIN FROM AN WORTH HEARING AGAIN FROM AN 11-YEAR-OLD GIRL IN TEARS. 11-YEAR-OLD GIRL IN TEARS.>>I NEED MY DAD.>>I NEED MY DAD. MY DAD DID NOTHING. MY DAD DID NOTHING. HE’S NOT A CRIMINAL. HE’S NOT A CRIMINAL.>>TODAY NBC’S GABE GUTIERREZ>>TODAY NBC’S GABE GUTIERREZ INTERVIEWED ACTING I.C.E. INTERVIEWED ACTING I.C.E. DIRECTOR ASKS FOR REACTION TO DIRECTOR ASKS FOR REACTION TO THAT VERY VIDEO. THAT VERY VIDEO.>>WE CONDUCT OUR OPERATIONS>>WE CONDUCT OUR OPERATIONS WITH PROFESSIONALALISM, WITH PROFESSIONALALISM, COMPASSION AND HUMANITY AND TRY COMPASSION AND HUMANITY AND TRY TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE INNOCENT PEOPLE OF THE INNOCENT PEOPLE OF THE SITUATION. SITUATION. HOWEVER, WE HAVE TO ENFORCE THE HOWEVER, WE HAVE TO ENFORCE THE LAW. LAW. THE PARENTS OR THE INDIVIDUALS THE PARENTS OR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BREAKING THE LAW ARE THAT ARE BREAKING THE LAW ARE ULTIMATELY THE ONES THAT ARE ULTIMATELY THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PLACING THEIR RESPONSIBLE FOR PLACING THEIR CHILDREN IN THIS SITUATION. CHILDREN IN THIS SITUATION.>>YOU SEE THE VERY DIFFERENT>>YOU SEE THE VERY DIFFERENT WAYS TO DEFEND THESE POLICIES. WAYS TO DEFEND THESE POLICIES. CUCCINELLI PICKING A FIGHT WITH CUCCINELLI PICKING A FIGHT WITH POETRY, THE ACTING I.C.E. POETRY, THE ACTING I.C.E. DIRECTOR TALK UP COMPASSION DIRECTOR TALK UP COMPASSION BLAMING THE PARENTS. BLAMING THE PARENTS. THINK FOR A SECOND. THINK FOR A SECOND. COULD COMPASSION AND COULD COMPASSION AND PROFESSIONALISM INVOLVE A PROFESSIONALISM INVOLVE A PROCESS WHERE THERE WAS PROCESS WHERE THERE WAS COMMUNICATION WHEN YOU HAVE A COMMUNICATION WHEN YOU HAVE A MINOR WHO IS NOW SEPARATED FROM MINOR WHO IS NOW SEPARATED FROM HER PARENTS? HER PARENTS? I PUT THAT QUESTION TO YOU WITH I PUT THAT QUESTION TO YOU WITH THIS REPORTING. THIS REPORTING. FIVE DAYS LATER SHE DOESN’T KNOW FIVE DAYS LATER SHE DOESN’T KNOW WHERE HER FATHER IS. WHERE HER FATHER IS. THIS IMMIGRATION POLICY IS THE THIS IMMIGRATION POLICY IS THE REALITY RIGHT NOW. REALITY RIGHT NOW. RAIDS THAT LEAVE THESE CHILDREN RAIDS THAT LEAVE THESE CHILDREN IN TEARS IN THE WAKE OF A MASS IN TEARS IN THE WAKE OF A MASS SHOOTING TARGETING LATINOS, NO SHOOTING TARGETING LATINOS, NO EFFORT TO THE COMMUNICATE WITH EFFORT TO THE COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE ABOUT THE REALITIES OF PEOPLE ABOUT THE REALITIES OF THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE NOW THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE NOW SEPARATED. SEPARATED. RIPPING CHILDREN AWAY FROM THEIR RIPPING CHILDREN AWAY FROM THEIR PARENTS AT THE BORDER. PARENTS AT THE BORDER. THERE’S A NEW COURT FILING FROM THERE’S A NEW COURT FILING FROM THE ACLU THAT SAYS THAT FAMILY THE ACLU THAT SAYS THAT FAMILY SEPARATION POLICY IS STILL VERY SEPARATION POLICY IS STILL VERY MUCH ON WHILE THE TRUMP MUCH ON WHILE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CLAIMED IT’S NOT. ADMINISTRATION CLAIMED IT’S NOT. SPEAKER HE WILL PEL IS SPEAKING SPEAKER HE WILL PEL IS SPEAKING OUT ON THIS EFFORT AND SAYS IT OUT ON THIS EFFORT AND SAYS IT IS TO DEMONIZE AND TERRORIZE IS TO DEMONIZE AND TERRORIZE IMMIGRANTS AND CALLS THE NEW IMMIGRANTS AND CALLS THE NEW POLICY THAT HAVE COME OUT WHILE POLICY THAT HAVE COME OUT WHILE CONGRESS IS ON RECESS HATEFUL CONGRESS IS ON RECESS HATEFUL AND BIGOTED. AND BIGOTED. KEN CUCCINELLI WE PROFILED ON KEN CUCCINELLI WE PROFILED ON THE SHOW FOR HIS EXTREMELY THE SHOW FOR HIS EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE RECORD IS PUSHING CONSERVATIVE RECORD IS PUSHING BACK HIMSELF. BACK HIMSELF. HE SAYS AS YOU HEARD, IT’S NOT HE SAYS AS YOU HEARD, IT’S NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK MIGRANTS TO BE TOO MUCH TO ASK MIGRANTS TO BE “SELF-SUFFICIENT.” “SELF-SUFFICIENT.” BEFORE I TURN TO THE PANEL, I BEFORE I TURN TO THE PANEL, I WANT TO LEAVE ONE FINAL THOUGHT WANT TO LEAVE ONE FINAL THOUGHT ON ALL OF THIS NEWS YOU’VE JUST ON ALL OF THIS NEWS YOU’VE JUST HEARD AS IT JUMBLES TOOTH. HEARD AS IT JUMBLES TOOTH. MR. CUCHE ANY LITTLE IS CARRYING MR. CUCHE ANY LITTLE IS CARRYING OUT THE TRUMP PLAN, THE TRUMP OUT THE TRUMP PLAN, THE TRUMP AGENDA. AGENDA. AND THAT IDEA THAT EVERYONE MUST AND THAT IDEA THAT EVERYONE MUST BE SELF-SUFFICIENT MISREADS BE SELF-SUFFICIENT MISREADS AMERICA IN WAYS. AMERICA IN WAYS. FIRST, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG FIRST, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO WITH PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO RECEIVE FEDERAL BENEFITS RECEIVE FEDERAL BENEFITS SOMETIMES. SOMETIMES. WHETHER THEY’RE SENIORS ON WHETHER THEY’RE SENIORS ON SOCIAL SECURITY OR VETERANS WHO SOCIAL SECURITY OR VETERANS WHO GET HEALTH INSURANCE OR WORKERS GET HEALTH INSURANCE OR WORKERS WHO GET UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE WHO GET UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BECAUSE THEY’VE LOST A JOB BY NO BECAUSE THEY’VE LOST A JOB BY NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN IN A FAULT OF THEIR OWN IN A RECESSION OR CORPORATE DECISION RECESSION OR CORPORATE DECISION OR CHILDREN WHO GET FOOD OR CHILDREN WHO GET FOOD ASSISTANCE. ASSISTANCE. LET’S REMEMBER THERE IS NO LET’S REMEMBER THERE IS NO INSULT, NO FAILING IN INSULT, NO FAILING IN PARTICIPATING IN THOSE PROGRAMS PARTICIPATING IN THOSE PROGRAMS AT SOME POINT IN YOUR LIFE. AT SOME POINT IN YOUR LIFE. IT’S PART OF OUR SOCIAL SAFETY IT’S PART OF OUR SOCIAL SAFETY NET. NET. LONG FUNDED AND OPERATED IF YOU LONG FUNDED AND OPERATED IF YOU WANT TO GET POLITICAL BY YES, WANT TO GET POLITICAL BY YES, ADMINISTRATIONS IN BOTH PARTIES. ADMINISTRATIONS IN BOTH PARTIES. THEN THERE’S THE IMMIGRATION THEN THERE’S THE IMMIGRATION PIECE OF THIS, SECOND. PIECE OF THIS, SECOND. AMERICA’S ETHIC HAS STRIPED TO AMERICA’S ETHIC HAS STRIPED TO WELCOME PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF WELCOME PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE OR WHAT THEY WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE OR WHAT THEY MAKE. MAKE. IN FACT, WHEN IT DOES COME TO IN FACT, WHEN IT DOES COME TO STRUGGLE WHEN THAT IS A PART OF STRUGGLE WHEN THAT IS A PART OF THE ANALYSIS OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE THE ANALYSIS OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM AND WHAT THEY WENT COMING FROM AND WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH, OUR RHETORIC AND OUR THROUGH, OUR RHETORIC AND OUR ASYLUM POLICIES HAVE LONG NOTED ASYLUM POLICIES HAVE LONG NOTED SOMETIMES IT’S THE PEOPLE IN THE SOMETIMES IT’S THE PEOPLE IN THE MOST TROUBLE WHO NEED AMERICA. MOST TROUBLE WHO NEED AMERICA. AND WHILE WE DON’T LET THEM ALL AND WHILE WE DON’T LET THEM ALL IN, THAT’S NOT THE RULE, WE IN, THAT’S NOT THE RULE, WE CAN’T LET THEM ALL IN, SAY MANY CAN’T LET THEM ALL IN, SAY MANY POLITICIANS AND WHILE WE HAVEN’T POLITICIANS AND WHILE WE HAVEN’T ALWAYS LIVED UP AS A COUNTRY TO ALWAYS LIVED UP AS A COUNTRY TO THAT GOAL, WE’VE CERTAINLY THAT GOAL, WE’VE CERTAINLY STRIVED FOR IT AND TALKED ABOUT STRIVED FOR IT AND TALKED ABOUT IT. IT. THAT’S WHY WE ALL KNOW THE THAT’S WHY WE ALL KNOW THE RHETORIC IN THE STATUE OF RHETORIC IN THE STATUE OF LIBERTY POEM THAT EVERYONE IS LIBERTY POEM THAT EVERYONE IS FIGHTING ABOUT, GIVE ME YOUR FIGHTING ABOUT, GIVE ME YOUR TIRED, YOUR POOR, YOUR HUDDLED TIRED, YOUR POOR, YOUR HUDDLED MASSES YEARNING TO BE FREE. MASSES YEARNING TO BE FREE. THE IDEA IS PRETTY SIMPLE. THE IDEA IS PRETTY SIMPLE. AMERICA IS WHERE SOME OF THEM AMERICA IS WHERE SOME OF THEM MIGHT GET TO COP FOR A BETTER MIGHT GET TO COP FOR A BETTER LIFE. LIFE. NOT THAT THE DOOR TO AMERICA SK NOT THAT THE DOOR TO AMERICA SK COMPLETELY SHUT UNLESS YOU COMPLETELY SHUT UNLESS YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE. ALREADY HAVE ONE. WITH THAT WE TURN TO OUR EXPERT WITH THAT WE TURN TO OUR EXPERT PANEL IT, LEAH RIGORE, MARY PANEL IT, LEAH RIGORE, MARY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL IMMIGRATION LAW CENTER NATIONAL IMMIGRATION LAW CENTER AND WASHINGTON ANCHOR CATTY KAY. AND WASHINGTON ANCHOR CATTY KAY. MARIEL ELAINA, YOUR THOUGHTS? MARIEL ELAINA, YOUR THOUGHTS?>>THANK YOU, ARI.>>THANK YOU, ARI. AS AN IMMIGRANT FROM COLOMBIA AS AN IMMIGRANT FROM COLOMBIA AND A LAWYER, IT IS DEEPLY AND A LAWYER, IT IS DEEPLY OFFENSIVE TO SEAR ACTING OFFENSIVE TO SEAR ACTING DIRECTOR CUCCINELLI TALK ABOUT DIRECTOR CUCCINELLI TALK ABOUT THIS AS SELF-SUFFICIENCY. THIS AS SELF-SUFFICIENCY. THE FACT IS THAT THIS IS THE THE FACT IS THAT THIS IS THE COUNTRY, THE LAND OF COUNTRY, THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. OPPORTUNITY. THAT IS THE STORY WE HAVE TOLD THAT IS THE STORY WE HAVE TOLD OURSELVES FOR SEVERAL CENTURIES OURSELVES FOR SEVERAL CENTURIES NOW. NOW. AND WE KNOW THAT IN FACT, THE AND WE KNOW THAT IN FACT, THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS AT SOME MAJORITY OF AMERICANS AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIFETIME ARE POINT IN THEIR LIFETIME ARE GOING TO NEED TO RELY ON CERTAIN GOING TO NEED TO RELY ON CERTAIN TYPES OF SAFETY NET PROGRAMS TYPES OF SAFETY NET PROGRAMS WHETHER IT’S UNEMPLOYMENT, WHETHER IT’S UNEMPLOYMENT, WHETHER IT’S NUTRITION WHETHER IT’S NUTRITION ASSISTANCE, HEALTH CARE, ASSISTANCE, HEALTH CARE, WHATEVER IT IS. WHATEVER IT IS. THESE ARE ANTI-POVERTY PROGRAMS THESE ARE ANTI-POVERTY PROGRAMS FOR THAT VERY REASON. FOR THAT VERY REASON. THEY’RE ANTI-POVERTY. THEY’RE ANTI-POVERTY. THEY’RE MEANT TO HELP PEOPLE THEY’RE MEANT TO HELP PEOPLE MAKE ENDS MEET WHEN THEY’RE MAKE ENDS MEET WHEN THEY’RE FACING A HARD TIME WHICH WAS MY FACING A HARD TIME WHICH WAS MY OWN FAMILY’S EXPERIENCE WHEN WE OWN FAMILY’S EXPERIENCE WHEN WE FIRST ARRIVED IN THIS COUNTRY IN FIRST ARRIVED IN THIS COUNTRY IN THE 1970s FROM COLOMBIA. THE 1970s FROM COLOMBIA.>>LEAH, LISTEN TO THE PRESIDENT>>LEAH, LISTEN TO THE PRESIDENT ON ALL THIS TODAY. ON ALL THIS TODAY.>>MAYBE THERE OUGHT TO BE A>>MAYBE THERE OUGHT TO BE A DIFFERENT POEM ON THE STATUTE OF DIFFERENT POEM ON THE STATUTE OF LIBERTY. LIBERTY. DO YOU THINK THAT SHOULD BE DO YOU THINK THAT SHOULD BE SAVED? SAVED?>>I DON’T THINK IT’S FAIR TO>>I DON’T THINK IT’S FAIR TO HAVE THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER, YOU HAVE THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER, YOU KNOW, IT’S ABOUT AMERICA FIRST. KNOW, IT’S ABOUT AMERICA FIRST. I DON’T THINK IT’S FAIR TO HAVE I DON’T THINK IT’S FAIR TO HAVE THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER PAY FOR THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER PAY FOR PEOPLE TO COME INTO THE UNITED PEOPLE TO COME INTO THE UNITED STATES. STATES.>>LEAH?>>LEAH?>>WELL, YOU KNOW, ARI, I THINK>>WELL, YOU KNOW, ARI, I THINK CRUELTY IS THE POINT. CRUELTY IS THE POINT. THAT MUCH IS AN APPARENT. THAT MUCH IS AN APPARENT. THE PRESIDENT IS BEING EXPLICIT THE PRESIDENT IS BEING EXPLICIT ABOUT IT NOW. ABOUT IT NOW. THIS ISN’T ABOUT THE LAW. THIS ISN’T ABOUT THE LAW. IF IT WAS ABOUT THE LAW AND IF IF IT WAS ABOUT THE LAW AND IF IT WAS ABOUT TAXPAYERS AND IT WAS ABOUT TAXPAYERS AND THIN THAT, WE’D ACTUALLY THIN THAT, WE’D ACTUALLY SEE THAT THE CORPORATIONS SEE THAT THE CORPORATIONS INVOLVED IN BRINGING PEOPLE OVER INVOLVED IN BRINGING PEOPLE OVER OR WHO BREAK THESE RULES AND OR WHO BREAK THESE RULES AND PROFIT FROM THESE RULES THAT THE PROFIT FROM THESE RULES THAT THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE PAYING GOVERNMENT WOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THEM. ATTENTION TO THEM. THEY’RE NOT. THEY’RE NOT. WE SEE THAT ALL THE TIME. WE SEE THAT ALL THE TIME. INSTEAD, WHAT WE SEE IS THAT INSTEAD, WHAT WE SEE IS THAT THIS IS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP’S YOU THIS IS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP’S YOU KNOW QUEST TO MAKE AMERICA LOOK KNOW QUEST TO MAKE AMERICA LOOK A VERY PARTICULAR WAY. A VERY PARTICULAR WAY. HE WAS VERY HONEST ABOUT THAT IN HE WAS VERY HONEST ABOUT THAT IN THAT STATEMENT HE JUST GAVE TO THAT STATEMENT HE JUST GAVE TO THE PRESS. THE PRESS. THIS ISN’T ABOUT BRINGING THIS ISN’T ABOUT BRINGING AMERICA BACK TO SAY THE 1960s OR AMERICA BACK TO SAY THE 1960s OR 1970s. 1970s. THIS IS LOOKING MORE AND MORE THIS IS LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE BRINGING ARE AMERICA BACK LIKE BRINGING ARE AMERICA BACK TO THE 1924 AND JAUND REED ACT, TO THE 1924 AND JAUND REED ACT, ABOUT MAKING A CERTAIN KIND OF ABOUT MAKING A CERTAIN KIND OF AMERICA, ONE IN WHICH IT’S NOT AMERICA, ONE IN WHICH IT’S NOT JUST UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS JUST UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS TARGETED BUT ALSO LEGAL TARGETED BUT ALSO LEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE FROM IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE FROM PARTICULAR BACKGROUNDS WHO ARE PARTICULAR BACKGROUNDS WHO ARE OF CERTAIN AGES FROM CERTAIN OF CERTAIN AGES FROM CERTAIN COUNTRIES. COUNTRIES. THAT MUCH IS CLEAR. THAT MUCH IS CLEAR.>>I DIDN’T KNOW YOU WANTED TO>>I DIDN’T KNOW YOU WANTED TO GO THERE, GET INTO THE JOHNSON GO THERE, GET INTO THE JOHNSON REED ACT. REED ACT. WE CAN DO THAT, PROFESSOR. WE CAN DO THAT, PROFESSOR. YOU’RE REFERRING TO THE LAST YOU’RE REFERRING TO THE LAST TIME THAT THE FEDERAL LAW TIME THAT THE FEDERAL LAW EXPLICITLIAGE KNOCKED THAT WILL EXPLICITLIAGE KNOCKED THAT WILL KIND OF DISCRIMINATION, WHICH KIND OF DISCRIMINATION, WHICH WAS LATER REVISED IN ’65, NOT WAS LATER REVISED IN ’65, NOT PERFECTED BY ANY MEANS BUT AT PERFECTED BY ANY MEANS BUT AT LEAST THE GOVERNMENT WAS NO LEAST THE GOVERNMENT WAS NO LONGER ON RECORD ADMITTING THAT LONGER ON RECORD ADMITTING THAT IT WAS GOING TO BAN PEOPLE BASED IT WAS GOING TO BAN PEOPLE BASED ON FOR EXAMPLE, NATIONAL ORIGIN ON FOR EXAMPLE, NATIONAL ORIGIN FROM ASIA OR IN RELIGION WITH FROM ASIA OR IN RELIGION WITH QUOTAS AGAINST JEWS. QUOTAS AGAINST JEWS. WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE WAY WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE WAY THEY’RE KIND OF GIVING THE GAME THEY’RE KIND OF GIVING THE GAME AWAY AND HOW FAR BACK THEY WANT AWAY AND HOW FAR BACK THEY WANT TO GO IN THESE POLICIES? TO GO IN THESE POLICIES?>>IMMIGRATION REFORM IN THIS>>IMMIGRATION REFORM IN THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN FAR FROM COUNTRY HAS BEEN FAR FROM PERFECT PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST PERFECT PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST 20 YEARS. 20 YEARS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS STRIKING, REALLY STRIKING ABOUT STRIKING, REALLY STRIKING ABOUT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS THE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS THE RHETORIC AND THE LANGUAGE THAT RHETORIC AND THE LANGUAGE THAT AROUND IMMIGRATION AND HOW THAT AROUND IMMIGRATION AND HOW THAT IS TIED EXPLICITLY TO POLICY. IS TIED EXPLICITLY TO POLICY. SO DONALD TRUMP SAYING THAT SO DONALD TRUMP SAYING THAT MEXICO IS SENDING ITS WORST, MEXICO IS SENDING ITS WORST, SENDING RAPISTS AND DRUG DEGREE SENDING RAPISTS AND DRUG DEGREE DEALERS, SAYING THAT MEXICAN DEALERS, SAYING THAT MEXICAN DRUGS ARE DISCRIMINATORY, MAKING DRUGS ARE DISCRIMINATORY, MAKING RACIST STATEMENTS AROUND THAT RACIST STATEMENTS AROUND THAT USING LANGUAGE ABOUT INVASION USING LANGUAGE ABOUT INVASION ABOUT A COMING HOARD, ABOUT THE ABOUT A COMING HOARD, ABOUT THE DANGERS OF MIGRANTS, THAT AND DANGERS OF MIGRANTS, THAT AND EXPLICITLY TIEING IT TO POLICY EXPLICITLY TIEING IT TO POLICY THAT FOR ALL PURPOSES REALLY IS THAT FOR ALL PURPOSES REALLY IS ABOUT EXCLUDING PEOPLE FROM THIS ABOUT EXCLUDING PEOPLE FROM THIS COUNTRY AND ABOUT CREATING A COUNTRY AND ABOUT CREATING A SYSTEM THAT SINCE IT CAN’T BE SYSTEM THAT SINCE IT CAN’T BE DONE THROUGH CONGRESS AND HASN’T DONE THROUGH CONGRESS AND HASN’T BEEN DONE THROUGH CONGRESS, BEEN DONE THROUGH CONGRESS, REALLY KILLS LEGAL AND UN REALLY KILLS LEGAL AND UN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRATION. UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRATION. LEGAL IMMIGRATION THROUGH A LEGAL IMMIGRATION THROUGH A THOUSAND BACKDOOR CUTS. THOUSAND BACKDOOR CUTS. THAT PART IS IMPORTANT AND THAT THAT PART IS IMPORTANT AND THAT PART IS DIFFERENT. PART IS DIFFERENT.>>APPRECIATE BOTH YOUR ERUD>>APPRECIATE BOTH YOUR ERUD IT/IO N. IT/IO N. I’M TURNING TO KATTY KAY. I’M TURNING TO KATTY KAY. I DON’T THINK IT’S A SECRET TO I DON’T THINK IT’S A SECRET TO THE REGULAR VIEWERS THAT YOU THE REGULAR VIEWERS THAT YOU HAPPEN TO BE EVERYBODY SOMEWHERE HAPPEN TO BE EVERYBODY SOMEWHERE ELSE. ELSE.>>I’M AN IMMIGRANT IN THIS>>I’M AN IMMIGRANT IN THIS COUNTRY, FIRST GENERATION COUNTRY, FIRST GENERATION IMMIGRANT. IMMIGRANT. I PAY TAXES AND AM EFFECTIVELY A I PAY TAXES AND AM EFFECTIVELY A TAXPAYER IN THIS COUNTRY. TAXPAYER IN THIS COUNTRY. A LOT OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ALSO A LOT OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ALSO PAY TAXES IN THIS COUNTRY. PAY TAXES IN THIS COUNTRY. I THINK THE IDEA THAT THIS IS I THINK THE IDEA THAT THIS IS SOMETHING TO DO WITH TAXES OR SOMETHING TO DO WITH TAXES OR WELFARE IS A TOTAL RED HERRING. WELFARE IS A TOTAL RED HERRING.>>THAT’S WHAT I WANT TO DRILL>>THAT’S WHAT I WANT TO DRILL DOWN WITH YOU ON. DOWN WITH YOU ON. WHICH IS WHO IS BEING TARGETED. WHICH IS WHO IS BEING TARGETED. AND LET ME HAVE FOR YOUR AND LET ME HAVE FOR YOUR ANALYSIS KEN CUCCINELLI PRESSED ANALYSIS KEN CUCCINELLI PRESSED WITH THAT QUESTION, WAIT A WITH THAT QUESTION, WAIT A MINUTE, IT IS NOW BECOME MINUTE, IT IS NOW BECOME DIAGNOSE QUITE CLEAR THAT DIAGNOSE QUITE CLEAR THAT CERTAIN GROUPS ARE BEING CERTAIN GROUPS ARE BEING TARGETED, TARGETING THE POOR HAS TARGETED, TARGETING THE POOR HAS LEAST SINCE ’65 IF NOT BEFORE LEAST SINCE ’65 IF NOT BEFORE BEEN DISFAVORED AND WHAT WHERE BEEN DISFAVORED AND WHAT WHERE THEY ARE FROM AND WHAT THEY LOOK THEY ARE FROM AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE IS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE IS SUPPOSED TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL. UNCONSTITUTIONAL. TAKE A LISTEN. TAKE A LISTEN.>>WHY SHOULDN’T THE LATINO>>WHY SHOULDN’T THE LATINO COMMUNITY FEEL TARGETED? COMMUNITY FEEL TARGETED?>>THIS IS NOT NEW.>>THIS IS NOT NEW. THIS SAME QUESTION MIGHT HAVE THIS SAME QUESTION MIGHT HAVE BEEN ASKED WHEN IMMIGRANT BEEN ASKED WHEN IMMIGRANT ANCESTORS WERE COMING ALL ANCESTORS WERE COMING ALL THROUGH THE 140 YEARS. THROUGH THE 140 YEARS. THIS APPLY ACROSS THE WORLD. THIS APPLY ACROSS THE WORLD.>>THIS APPLY TO MORE LATINOS?>>THIS APPLY TO MORE LATINOS?>>IF WE HAD BEEN HAVING THIS>>IF WE HAD BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION A COUPLE HUNDRED CONVERSATION A COUPLE HUNDRED YEARS AGO, IT WOULD HAVE APPLIED YEARS AGO, IT WOULD HAVE APPLIED TO MORE ITALIANS. TO MORE ITALIANS.>>I’M NOT SURE HE IS THE BEST>>I’M NOT SURE HE IS THE BEST ADVOCATE AND MOST CONVINCING ADVOCATE AND MOST CONVINCING PRESENTER OF THESE IDEAS. PRESENTER OF THESE IDEAS. IT SEEMS THAT IS EVERY TIME IT SEEMS THAT IS EVERY TIME WE’VE THROWN TO A CLIP, HE’S WE’VE THROWN TO A CLIP, HE’S PUTTING HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH PUTTING HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH CLAIMING HE, NOT SENATE CLAIMING HE, NOT SENATE CONFIRMED, HE SHOULD BE CONFIRMED, HE SHOULD BE RE-WRIGHT THE STATUTE OF LIBERTY RE-WRIGHT THE STATUTE OF LIBERTY POEM AND MAKING THE LATINO, POEM AND MAKING THE LATINO, ITALIAN COMPARE RESPONDS I LEAVE ITALIAN COMPARE RESPONDS I LEAVE THAT TO HIM. THAT TO HIM. I ASK YOU IS THIS ACCURATE AND I ASK YOU IS THIS ACCURATE AND WHAT IS HE MISSING? WHAT IS HE MISSING?>>SO THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW>>SO THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW IMMIGRANTS ARE GOING TO TAKE IMMIGRANTS ARE GOING TO TAKE WELFARE BASED ON THE COLOR OF WELFARE BASED ON THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN IS A COMPLETE THEIR SKIN IS A COMPLETE MISNOMER. MISNOMER. AS WE KNOW, THE VAST MAJORITY OF AS WE KNOW, THE VAST MAJORITY OF RECIPIENTS OF FOOD STAMPS IN RECIPIENTS OF FOOD STAMPS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE LIGHTWEIGHT, THIS COUNTRY ARE LIGHTWEIGHT, NOT AFRICAN-AMERICAN, NOT NOT AFRICAN-AMERICAN, NOT HISPANIC. HISPANIC. I THINK THERE’S ONLY ABOUT 10% I THINK THERE’S ONLY ABOUT 10% OF RECIPIENTS WHO ARE HISPANIC. OF RECIPIENTS WHO ARE HISPANIC. LET’S PUT THAT TO ONE SIDE. LET’S PUT THAT TO ONE SIDE. THE PROFESSOR TOOK US BACK IN THE PROFESSOR TOOK US BACK IN SIDE. SIDE. LET’S JUMP TOWARD. LET’S JUMP TOWARD. THIS IS ALL ABOUT 2044 WHEN THIS IS ALL ABOUT 2044 WHEN AMERICA BECOMES A MINORITY WHITE AMERICA BECOMES A MINORITY WHITE COUNTRY. COUNTRY. A BIT LIKE KING KNUTE, THE TRUMP A BIT LIKE KING KNUTE, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS DESPERATELY ADMINISTRATION IS DESPERATELY TRYING TO STOP THE TIDE OF THAT. TRYING TO STOP THE TIDE OF THAT. STEVEN MILLER CAME INTO THE STEVEN MILLER CAME INTO THE WHITE HOUSE WANTING TO TARGET WHITE HOUSE WANTING TO TARGET ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION YES, BUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION YES, BUT WANTING ALSO RIGHT FROM THE WANTING ALSO RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS ADMINISTRATION BEGINNING OF THIS ADMINISTRATION TO TARGET LEGAL IMMIGRATION TO TO TARGET LEGAL IMMIGRATION TO TRY TO MAKE AMERICA IN THE IMAGE TRY TO MAKE AMERICA IN THE IMAGE THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT WHICH IS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT WHICH IS MAJORITY WHITE. MAJORITY WHITE. WE KNOW THEY HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT WE KNOW THEY HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT TAKING NORWEGIANS AND SMOT TAKING NORWEGIANS AND SMOT PEOPLE FROM AFRICAN OR HISPANIC PEOPLE FROM AFRICAN OR HISPANIC COUNTRIES. COUNTRIES. THIS IS ABOUT RACE AND KEEPING THIS IS ABOUT RACE AND KEEPING WHERK WHITE. WHERK WHITE. IT’S NOT ABOUT THE WELFARE, IT’S NOT ABOUT THE WELFARE, TAXES OR ECONOMICS. TAXES OR ECONOMICS.>>MARIE ELENA.>>MARIE ELENA.>>COMPLETELY GO AGREE.>>COMPLETELY GO AGREE. WHAT THIS RACIALLY MOTIVATED WHAT THIS RACIALLY MOTIVATED RULE DOES NOT DO IS CHANGE THE RULE DOES NOT DO IS CHANGE THE ELIGIBILITY RULES ABOUT ELIGIBILITY RULES ABOUT IMMIGRANT ACCESS TO NUTRITION OR IMMIGRANT ACCESS TO NUTRITION OR HEALTH CARE BUT WHAT IT DOES DO HEALTH CARE BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS ACTUALLY CHANGE THE POLITICAL IS ACTUALLY CHANGE THE POLITICAL POWER DYNAMICS. POWER DYNAMICS. WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO DO IS WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO DO IS HAVE MILLIONS OF IMMIGRANTS NOT HAVE MILLIONS OF IMMIGRANTS NOT BE ABLE TO BECOME PERMANENT BE ABLE TO BECOME PERMANENT RESIDENTS AND EVENTUAL VOTERS. RESIDENTS AND EVENTUAL VOTERS. THERE IS THEIR WAY TO EVENTUALLY THERE IS THEIR WAY TO EVENTUALLY HAVE MINORITY RULE, A COUNTRY A HAVE MINORITY RULE, A COUNTRY A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE OF COLOR IN MAJORITY OF PEOPLE OF COLOR IN THE FUTURE. THE FUTURE.>>THIS TRACTION PERFECTLY WITH>>THIS TRACTION PERFECTLY WITH THE NEXT QUESTION I WANTED TO THE NEXT QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK THE PROFESSOR WHICH IS ASK THE PROFESSOR WHICH IS YOU’VE ALSO DONE A LOT OF THE YOU’VE ALSO DONE A LOT OF THE POLITICS ON THIS. POLITICS ON THIS. I WONDER WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT I WONDER WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE POLITICS HERE AFTER THE THE POLITICS HERE AFTER THE PRESIDENT HAS HAD LET’S BE PRESIDENT HAS HAD LET’S BE CLEAR, ROUGH TIMES EVEN BY HIS CLEAR, ROUGH TIMES EVEN BY HIS STANDARDS YOU KNOW, THIS STANDARDS YOU KNOW, THIS CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER THAT THE CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WAS AN US TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WAS AN US COULD OF HAVING STAFF TOO LOOENT COULD OF HAVING STAFF TOO LOOENT LENIENT ON, THEN MYSTERIOUSLY LENIENT ON, THEN MYSTERIOUSLY DIES IN JAIL, THE TRUMP DIES IN JAIL, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OVERSEEING THAT, ADMINISTRATION OVERSEEING THAT, A SERIES OF REPORTS ABOUT HIS A SERIES OF REPORTS ABOUT HIS HANDLING OF THESE MASSACHUSETTS HANDLING OF THESE MASSACHUSETTS SHOOTINGS WHILE NOT CAUSAL SHOOTINGS WHILE NOT CAUSAL CERTAINLY HAD THE SHOOTER CERTAINLY HAD THE SHOOTER ECHOING LANGUAGE OF THE ECHOING LANGUAGE OF THE PRESIDENT AND ALL THE OTHER PRESIDENT AND ALL THE OTHER PROBLEMS. PROBLEMS. HERE ARE THE POLITICS, LEAH, HERE ARE THE POLITICS, LEAH, HERE WE GO AGAIN. HERE WE GO AGAIN. WHAT I MENTIONED AT THE TOP WHAT I MENTIONED AT THE TOP WHICH IS THE INSINUATION THAT WHICH IS THE INSINUATION THAT PARTICIPATING IN ANY PUBLIC PARTICIPATING IN ANY PUBLIC PROGRAM MAKES YOU SOMEHOW PROGRAM MAKES YOU SOMEHOW SUSPECT AND REAGAN QUO DO THAT SUSPECT AND REAGAN QUO DO THAT IN A DOMESTIC CONTEXT WITH IN A DOMESTIC CONTEXT WITH AFRICAN-AMERICANS. AFRICAN-AMERICANS. WE’RE SEEING IT IN THE WE’RE SEEING IT IN THE IMMIGRATION CONTEXT. IMMIGRATION CONTEXT. WALK US THROUGH YOUR VIEW OF THE WALK US THROUGH YOUR VIEW OF THE POLITICAL PLAYBOOK HERE. POLITICAL PLAYBOOK HERE.>>YOU KNOW IN, TIMES OF CRISIS>>YOU KNOW IN, TIMES OF CRISIS FOR DONALD TRUMP, HE VERY FOR DONALD TRUMP, HE VERY QUICKLY FALLS BACK ON THE — ON QUICKLY FALLS BACK ON THE — ON YOU KNOW, THE CULTURE WARS AND YOU KNOW, THE CULTURE WARS AND WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO THE RACE WARS WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO THE RACE WARS AND IMMIGRATION WARS. AND IMMIGRATION WARS. SO THIS IS HIS FAVORITE AND SO THIS IS HIS FAVORITE AND PERHAPS THE EASIEST PUNCHING BAG PERHAPS THE EASIEST PUNCHING BAG FOR HIM. FOR HIM. THIS IS HOW HE STARTED HIS THIS IS HOW HE STARTED HIS CAMPAIGN. CAMPAIGN. THIS IS HOW YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS HOW YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW HE RAN HIS CAMPAIGN. HOW HE RAN HIS CAMPAIGN. THIS IS WHAT HE DID, WHAT HE THIS IS WHAT HE DID, WHAT HE FOCUSED ON IN THE 2016 SPECIAL FOCUSED ON IN THE 2016 SPECIAL ELECTIONS AND ESPECIALLY THE 201 ELECTIONS AND ESPECIALLY THE 201 ELECTIONS AND PULLING IT OUT ELECTIONS AND PULLING IT OUT AGAIN TO APPEAL TO HIS BASE. AGAIN TO APPEAL TO HIS BASE. THIS IS NOT ABOUT GROWING HIS THIS IS NOT ABOUT GROWING HIS BASE. BASE. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THAT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THAT. ONE THING I WOULD PUSH BACK ON ONE THING I WOULD PUSH BACK ON AND REALLY THINK ABOUT IS, HOW AND REALLY THINK ABOUT IS, HOW OFTEN HAS THIS BEEN SUCCESSFUL OFTEN HAS THIS BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR DONALD TRUMP? FOR DONALD TRUMP? WE MAY POINT TO 2016 BUT WE CAN WE MAY POINT TO 2016 BUT WE CAN LOOK AT 2018 AND SEE THAT THIS LOOK AT 2018 AND SEE THAT THIS IDEA OF THE SO-CALLED HOARD, IDEA OF THE SO-CALLED HOARD, THIS MYTH OF THE HOARD, THE FEAR THIS MYTH OF THE HOARD, THE FEAR OF THE HOARD DIDN’T PAN OUT. OF THE HOARD DIDN’T PAN OUT. THE CARAVAN DIDN’T PLAY OUT IN THE CARAVAN DIDN’T PLAY OUT IN HIS FAVOR AT THE BALLOT BOX. HIS FAVOR AT THE BALLOT BOX. WHAT IT ENDED UP DOING IS WHAT IT ENDED UP DOING IS CREATING, YOU KNOW, PLAYING A CREATING, YOU KNOW, PLAYING A ROLE IN THE INCREASED FRENZY AND ROLE IN THE INCREASED FRENZY AND RHETORIC AROUND RACE THAT HAD RHETORIC AROUND RACE THAT HAD DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES BUT DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES BUT POLITICALLY, DIDN’T SEEM TO — POLITICALLY, DIDN’T SEEM TO — DIDN’T PAYOFF FOR HIM. DIDN’T PAYOFF FOR HIM.>>LEAH AND MARIE ELAINA, THANK>>LEAH AND MARIE ELAINA, THANK YOU BOTH. YOU BOTH. HAVE I ONE MORE THING IN NEW HAVE I ONE MORE THING IN NEW YORK FOR KATTY KAY. YORK FOR KATTY KAY. THAT IS STEVEN MILLER. THAT IS STEVEN MILLER. STEVEN MILLER HAS MAINTAINED A STEVEN MILLER HAS MAINTAINED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFLUENCE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFLUENCE OVER IMMIGRATION POLICY. OVER IMMIGRATION POLICY. HE WORKED FOR JEFF SESSIONS. HE WORKED FOR JEFF SESSIONS. HE’S NOW JOUST LASTED JEFF HE’S NOW JOUST LASTED JEFF SESSIONS AND VIEWERS MAY KNOW SESSIONS AND VIEWERS MAY KNOW HIM AS SOMEONE HOB ISN’T ON HIM AS SOMEONE HOB ISN’T ON CAMERA ALL THAT MUCH AND YET CAMERA ALL THAT MUCH AND YET SOMETIMES SEEMS TO AS I SOMETIMES SEEMS TO AS I MENTIONED OUTLAST AND OUT RANK MENTIONED OUTLAST AND OUT RANK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE BORDER THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE BORDER CZARS, DHS. CZARS, DHS. IT IS REMARKABLE. IT IS REMARKABLE. SOME PEOPLE SAY I WISH WE DIDN’T SOME PEOPLE SAY I WISH WE DIDN’T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS OR THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS OR THAT PERSON. PERSON. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT’S OUT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT’S OUT THERE, WHETHER YOU WANT TO THERE, WHETHER YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO MR. MILLER OR NOT. LISTEN TO MR. MILLER OR NOT. I SAY THAT AS A KIND OF I SAY THAT AS A KIND OF DISCLAIMER FOR SPRURPZ HERE HE DISCLAIMER FOR SPRURPZ HERE HE IS ON THE VERY ISSUE THAT HAS IS ON THE VERY ISSUE THAT HAS BECOME FRONT AND CENTER ABOUT BECOME FRONT AND CENTER ABOUT THE STATUE OF LIBERTY. THE STATUE OF LIBERTY. TAKE A LOOK. TAKE A LOOK.>>THE STATUE OF LIBERTY SAYS>>THE STATUE OF LIBERTY SAYS GIVE ME YOUR TIRED, YOUR POOR, GIVE ME YOUR TIRED, YOUR POOR, YOUR HUDDLED MASSES YEARNING TO YOUR HUDDLED MASSES YEARNING TO BE FREE. BE FREE. IT DOESN’T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT DOESN’T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT SPEAKING ENGLISH OR BEING ABLE SPEAKING ENGLISH OR BEING ABLE TO BE A COMPUTER PROGRAM SNIR TO BE A COMPUTER PROGRAM SNIR THE POEM THAT YOU’RE REFERRING THE POEM THAT YOU’RE REFERRING TO WAS ADDED LATE SER NOT PART TO WAS ADDED LATE SER NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL STATUE OF OF THE ORIGINAL STATUE OF LIBERTY. LIBERTY. MORE FUNDAMENTALLY, MORE MORE FUNDAMENTALLY, MORE FUNDAMENTALLY. FUNDAMENTALLY.>>YOU’RE SAYING THAT DOES NOT>>YOU’RE SAYING THAT DOES NOT REPRESENT WHAT THE COUNTRY HAS REPRESENT WHAT THE COUNTRY HAS ALWAYS THOUGHT OF. ALWAYS THOUGHT OF.>>I’M SAYING THE NOTION.>>I’M SAYING THE NOTION.>>STEVEN, I’M SORRY.>>STEVEN, I’M SORRY. THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOME NATIONAL THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOME NATIONAL PARK REVISIONISM. PARK REVISIONISM.>>2017 AND THAT WAS SOMETHING>>2017 AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY BACKED OFF OF BECAUSE THEY THEY BACKED OFF OF BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH DIDN’T WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH THE STATUE OF LIBERTY. THE STATUE OF LIBERTY. IS THIS NOW THE IN THE PLAYBOOK? IS THIS NOW THE IN THE PLAYBOOK? IS THIS NOT SOMETHING THEY’RE IS THIS NOT SOMETHING THEY’RE BACKING OFF? BACKING OFF? THIS IS FROM WHAT 2017 IS NOW THIS IS FROM WHAT 2017 IS NOW TOO EXTREME IS BEING NORMALIZED TOO EXTREME IS BEING NORMALIZED IN 2019. IN 2019.>>IS HE GOES ON TO SAY GIVE US>>IS HE GOES ON TO SAY GIVE US YOUR WRETCHED AND HOMELESS. YOUR WRETCHED AND HOMELESS. IT’S VERY HARD IN STEVEN MILL IT’S VERY HARD IN STEVEN MILL AREA’S IDEAL AMERICA TO IMAGINE AREA’S IDEAL AMERICA TO IMAGINE THIS WHITE HOUSE EMBRACING THE THIS WHITE HOUSE EMBRACING THE WRETCHED REFUSE AND THE HOMELESS WRETCHED REFUSE AND THE HOMELESS OF THE WORLD. OF THE WORLD. THEY HAVE NORMALIZED A LOT. THEY HAVE NORMALIZED A LOT. THIS IS THIS BATTLE GOING ON THIS IS THIS BATTLE GOING ON CONTINUALLY OVER THE WALL. CONTINUALLY OVER THE WALL. THEY HAVEN’T MANAGED TO BUILD THEY HAVEN’T MANAGED TO BUILD THE WALL. THE WALL. THEY ARE TRYING THROUGH OTHER THEY ARE TRYING THROUGH OTHER MEANS TO SATISFY THE BASE ON MEANS TO SATISFY THE BASE ON IMMIGRATION POLICY. IMMIGRATION POLICY. BUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT’S NEW HERE BUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT’S NEW HERE IS THIS IDEA OF TARGETING LEGAL IS THIS IDEA OF TARGETING LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. IMMIGRANTS. THAT IS STEVEN MILLER. THAT IS STEVEN MILLER. THAT’S SOMETHING HE HAS WANTED THAT’S SOMETHING HE HAS WANTED TO DO. TO DO. I’VE HEARD HIM SAY IT FROM THE I’VE HEARD HIM SAY IT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS ADMINISTRATION BEGINNING OF THIS ADMINISTRATION AND NOW HE FEELS WITH THIS ORDER AND NOW HE FEELS WITH THIS ORDER HE CAN DO IT. HE CAN DO IT. IT WILLING BE CHALLENGED IN THE IT WILLING BE CHALLENGED IN THE COURTS. COURTS.>>YOU JUST PUT YOUR FINGER ON>>YOU JUST PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT, THEY HAVE SLOWLY BUT FINALLY IT, THEY HAVE SLOWLY BUT FINALLY MOVED FROM TALKING ABOUT THE MOVED FROM TALKING ABOUT THE UNDOCUMENTED WHERE THERE’S A UNDOCUMENTED WHERE THERE’S A LEGAL LINE TO ADMIT NO, THEY LEGAL LINE TO ADMIT NO, THEY DON’T LIKE, AND I SAY THIS IF DON’T LIKE, AND I SAY THIS IF YOU DON’T MIND, THEY DON’T WANT YOU DON’T MIND, THEY DON’T WANT CERTAIN PEOPLE HAVE YOUR STATUS, CERTAIN PEOPLE HAVE YOUR STATUS, WHO ARE JUST LEGALLY HERE WHO ARE JUST LEGALLY HERE PARTICIPATING IN OUR ECONOMY. PARTICIPATING IN OUR ECONOMY. WE LEARN FROM, WE LISTEN TO, WE LEARN FROM, WE LISTEN TO, PAYING TAXES. PAYING TAXES. NOW THEY’RE SAYING THE FACT THAT NOW THEY’RE SAYING THE FACT THAT YOU CAME HERE ITSELF SHOULD BE YOU CAME HERE ITSELF SHOULD BE TARGETED. TARGETED.>>YEAH, I HAVE FOUR AMERICAN>>YEAH, I HAVE FOUR AMERICAN KIDS, I HAVE AN AMERICAN BRITISH KIDS, I HAVE AN AMERICAN BRITISH HUSBAND. HUSBAND. I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT I I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT I WILL BE CHUCKED OUT BUT I’M VERY WILL BE CHUCKED OUT BUT I’M VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WHO DON’T LOOK LIKE ME PEOPLE WHO DON’T LOOK LIKE ME WHO COME WITH MORE DIFFICULT WHO COME WITH MORE DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES THAN ME TO THIS CIRCUMSTANCES THAN ME TO THIS COUNTRY WHERE YOU HAVE ALWAYS COUNTRY WHERE YOU HAVE ALWAYS WELCOMED MIGRANTS IT HAS BEEN WELCOMED MIGRANTS IT HAS BEEN THE VALUE OF AMERICA, IT IS THE THE VALUE OF AMERICA, IT IS THE THING THAT DISTINGUISHES THIS THING THAT DISTINGUISHES THIS COUNTRY FROM OTHER COUNTRIES AND COUNTRY FROM OTHER COUNTRIES AND I FEAR THAT’S GOING. I FEAR THAT’S GOING.>>WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR

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100 thoughts on “Donald Trump’s ICE Chief Defends Raid Leaving Children Crying | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC”

  • if immigrants, legal or illegal, get public money, the public has a right to vote on it by way of elected officials. Trump who is our elected president is right… American tax payers have a say in this

  • Trump’s end is getting closer. He will suffer a massive defeat in 2020 then once he is convicted of treason, he will either commit suicide or suffer a massive heart attack.

  • Linda Mulholland says:

    Our whole government system is fkd up ! Next they will want everyone to have dna testing to see what their nationality is ! Well iam american indian and german. Its going to be a long haul before this is all over ! Get trump out !!!!!! The devil is on the loose so watch out !

  • Will the USA and other European nations do an estimate on how much money/ wealth they have acquired from robbing and using other peoples? Take into account the slave labor as well as the artifacts in museums making billions yearly from tourists. The US and Europe wants to pretend that they did not create this problem. You made your bed now lie in it. Bed bugs, lice, roaches, tics, fleas and all.

  • This is what happens when you try to sell yourselves to everyone. You flash your riches before everyone then wonder why you summon intruders.

  • If I move out of the USA, can you all guarantee that you won’t dabble in the politics of the country for which I settle? < Crickets>

  • Are people stupid???? If you are applying to be a citizen of the United States you ALREADY have to sign a paper stating you will NEVER get public assistance. And if you get caught getting any type of assistance it disqualify you from becoming a citizen or working permits. Actually if you really want to be technical your sponsor and family have to also sign this paper and take full responsibility of the person applying for ANY type of work permits, citizenships, residency. Stating if the person falls into Financial hardship you take Full responsibility. And you CAN’T get public assistance without a social Security number and birth Certificate. It’s amazing how stupid people are in America. And these talking points show the LACK of Education Americans have!!!!!

  • First they came for the Latinos and I was no Latino, then they came for the Jews and I was no Jew and then they came for ………

  • two months ago a group of 20 illegals illegally entered thru San Diego.. They stole a truck they drove without license and insurance.. They broke speed laws evaded arrest then crashed into other cars… How many laws must they break before we can call them illegal? Those arrested at that plant were using social security number stolen from US citizens… Is it racist for us to protect our tax and credit records? Should I cut off l my left nut too to make you happy?

  • How about those farmers taking $16 billion in government dollars from the USDA. Should they stand on their own two feet?

  • Hey let's clarify I feel fur the little girl but jumping our borders is illegal. I have a friend of mine he is a white guy he broke into a house and stole 2 weeks later he was caught the police arrested him at home and the family was there and saw the whole thing his kids cried but they took him anyway did the police do the wronge thang he got 10 years in prison should he be released because his kids cry I dont think so where her dad could have come legally if he had took the time and did it right she wouldn't have to cry to begin with

  • Miller a Hungarian Nazi. Hungary a country that killed thousands of Jews in the last weeks of the war and laid them on display on the borders of the Danube in their capital.

  • Where do they dig these guys up, guys like Cuccinelli and all the other crud that has made up this administration? How many rocks have they overturned to find the cream of the crud? Does Stephen Miller run this administration now, with all of his neo-Nazi leanings?

  • RenDi Supertramp says:

    Mister you can’t see my taxes talking about protecting tax payers from people seized at their ‘JOBs’ and not one employer arrested. Modern Gestapo. Ice people should not sleep soundly with their shame.

  • People with kids pay less taxes because the government sees their children as future taxpayers. I wounder why the government doesn't look at immigrants the same way.

  • Trump thinks he can intimidate us with deliberate cruelty. I personally will NOT be intimidated.  This cruelty needs to be turned back on Trump and his cohorts to take the breath out of them-for good.  Trump and his ilk are just too mean to be allowed to survive.

  • Christian Romero says:

    Soon the Trump administration will state " Not all men are CREATED equal" . Let's face it this is were we are headed were, one step a way from Marshall law and freedom papers and consecration camps for people of color. Were we will have to prove that we can be part of of the American societie and are willing to except the role as secondary citizen's. At one point we are going to have to fight not with words, or facts or evidence,.We keep showing up to a knife fight with emails that is not going to work bullies and dictators only truly respond to physical force that is fact.

  • Uniqueness Entertainment says:

    Each individual in United States have immigrant blood in their background of their history. And that's what made America great was being a Melting Pot of a culture with each ideas. And now we have this hate rhetoric and discuss for one another out of the form of Chaos in division that this President's trying to commit on our nation. Don't allow Trump to fool you we the people are way smarter than him and his pee on Administrations. Our Second Amendment and other things that was in the Bill of Rights in the Declaration of Independence was Sutton Place for this same president that we have. And if we keep staying asleep or turning a blind eye because you're used to his shenanigans. Then our country is on a head Collision for Doom. Just my opinion of my analysis.

  • when I saw and heard Ken C talk for the first time in several months ago. I thought to myself that this is the guy when he says everything is going to be okay that you know you f*****. he's the guy on Halloween that you know that you're not getting any treats is nothing but tricks at his house so you wouldn't go to his house.

  • Cat VanSancina says:

    So, Andres Gomez-Jorge was supporting a wife and 4 children on his earnings alone? Does anyone know they got any government assistance?

  • Firstname Lastname says:

    Do you want to pay to have people coming into the country? I personally don't make a-lot of money and i'm tight on my budget so I personally can't afford to pay for others to come into the country.

  • We need to find whether any of Kuchinelli’s relatives ever, through their generations,go on the public dole? Can some enterprising journalist organization find out for us?

  • So food assistance for children is seen as something bad in the Republican Party meanwhile CORPORATE WELFARE in the tune of trillions for billionaires is seen as okay? The Republican Party simply needs to be ended; they need to be voted out and never again allowed into government again.

  • I wonder what these commentators stand would be if it affected them directly? We should impose a 80% tax to people in favor of more dependents.

  • Imagine if you worked for the last 25-30 yrs. at a company paying in to a retirement fund and still had 10 yrs. to go. At this time a next door neighbor to the company knocks on the door and asks to be paid by your retirement fund. Would you agree to that?

  • RUSSIAN SALAD DRESSING says:

    How is Google lying to you and shaping you? From one of the horse's mouths….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BfE6hqv7u0

  • They better not try to change that plaque on Lady Liberty. I think that I would go there myself and try to protect the plaque that is there, and I live in TX.

  • Vivian Segovia-Boone says:

    Hey I hate trump and the abuses he is committing on migrants but it’s time we revamp our social services along with immigration / and this is for all Americans and immigrants / social services are safety nets – we need them to give people a hand up not a hand out! and we need them to be supported by the ultra rich more than the struggling middle class after all they are rich by stealing a nickel here and there from the middle class from everything we use/need/buy

  • Rich people like Trump play the tax system in a way that middle and lower income people cannot and do not, to in effect take money from the American people. Trump calls this 'being smart'. At the same time, they demonise welfare as scrounging. This despite the fact that a high proportion of Trump supporters are on welfare. Taxes and welfare are there to create a fair and safe society. Very few people get a 'very small loan' of several hundred million from daddy in order to 'pull themselves up by their own bootstraps'.

  • GOD'S LAST MISSIONARIES says:

    Thank you Ari. I like your show.. our taxes provides aid for the poor as well as other countries who should stand on their own two feet. Example Isreal. This government isva disgrace.

  • kathlene stafford says:

    If you want to get down to it these people were paying I to the tax structure therefore they are eligible snd should be able to receive benefits when needed, those of us on doc security paid into it. It is not a gov handout we purchased the benefits!!! We were given a choice to op out and put funds into s program that may have given us a higher yield for our dollar… this is coming from a White House that changed tax law to line his own pocket, to cut tax breaks to middle class to keep more tax dollars, yet leave or expanding loopholes for the upper 1% to fully reduce their tax contribution. Americans are not as stupid as Trump our unstable non-genius knowledge was!!! Impeach him snd turn taxes back were they were, then start to make adjustments to taxes to imput high ta c s on 1% to balance their contributions to this country!’n

  • kathlene stafford says:

    The strangest part of this all is Trump is married two imagrsnts, he is tried generation from his grandfather who illegally fled Germany to come to America snd who was removed from Germany when he tried to return their to reclaim his German citizenship. Steven Miller is a Jewish man who’s family fled precaution by the nazi party and ended up in America who made these people our demigods and what gives them the right to create these inhuman rules. I say gather them all up and clear out one that f the standing room cages at the boarder and place them there with the same access to food water and bathing so they can be truthful on exactly how human they really are!!! Oh if the have children should the children have to be cage or just left without s net??? Let’s get real!!!!!!! Trump family money was earn by his grandfather running hotel bars and restraints following minors snd supplying them with broth also, he was a human trafficker… there is were his base came from. If the broth all were not there to Minnie’s would have gone to another’s bar/hotel to get there needs serviced.

  • The proposed immigration rule by Trump, won't stop immigrants from
    entering the country, it will create an even more massive underground of
    people here unlawfully. we currently have a massive number people
    living in the shadows, Trump's new proposal will increase the number
    living in the shadows. What history has shown, is people don't leave
    and go home when denied citizenship, they simply live in the shadows for
    decades or until death.

  • The proposed immigration rule by Trump, won't stop immigrants from
    entering the country, it will create an even more massive underground of
    people here unlawfully. we currently have a massive number people
    living in the shadows, Trump's new proposal will increase the number
    living in the shadows. What history has shown, is people don't leave
    and go home when denied citizenship, they simply live in the shadows for
    decades or until death.

  • So where are the American people who witness this . It is sickening. Get on the street and drag this moron out the Whitehouse. How can people watch this and do nothing . It beggars belief. Can’t believe what America has become . Always envied America . No longer do that

  • shaunwhiteisadouce says:

    Somebody deport this loser to another country where he can't nepotistically get a job to screw over anyone but people bribing him in fact let me handle his "education " just give me 2 minutes alone in any room … Cooch boy!

  • Invading settlers got the homestead act, banks got bail outs, farmers (no slight to them) got farm aid, bankrupt big real estate/ casino/ etc owners got out of debt and out of paying income taxes………..and other examples i know nothin' about but have heard tell of- ya know

  • Lorianne AND Carl Swanson says:

    trumps in laws came from russia and are staying under the anchor program. as a matter of fact they became citizens recently with that law

  • This very sad I hate obeying the law we all do but it's a must . Maybe we should not make laws but smoke pot and listen to reggae music.

  • Cassandra Peake says:

    @Dtrump….Civilized Nation…. you’re joking right with that Baffoon in office and all of the idiots that think they are better because of their skin color…
    This COUNTRY belongs to the Native Americans … If you are not Native American you’re illegal….You trump supporters are IDIOTS!

  • The same question WAS asked when your Italian immigrants came here. It's only because the ancestors of scum like Cuccinelli received a different policy that he is here today.

  • margaret Bonnett says:

    I needed government assistance in 1976. I was on it until I returned to work in 1977. I have always felt grateful that my country had my back when my family wouldn't help even when they were wealthy. I was not a fun experience. Most of my interactions at the welfare office were upsetting. But they helped me. I would never be able to support a government that turns their back on the people. If it is the doom they claim it is then bring it on. I can't have people starving and being homeless or sick.

  • Separation and incarceration of children FOR ANY REASON is defined as A Crime Against Humanity by every one of the Human Rights Accords that International Law and The United Nations Charter are BASED ON (– WELCOME to The United States OF ISRAEL!) …. Trump belongs IN THE HAGUE with his role models Radovan Karadzic and NutanYahoo on either side. … When SDNY arrests him for his tax and bank fraud history the day after he leaves office, the FBI should IMMEDIATELY ship him to Switzerland to serve his sentence for Crimes Against Humanity FIRST.

  • marianne samuelsen says:

    SO DISCUSTED by the administration as a Norwegian citizen. We would never go to live in this USA 🇺🇸 . I would rather let the Latino people come here and we will let all go trough our court system so we can hear their case and rule from there. The ones that have a lawful case will be taken care of and always have!! In fact they contribute to our economy and work hard. Very few take advantage of our way of life..Norway

  • Proud Liberal Dad says:

    How many years will it take to fix this? How about all the stuff we don't know about? I'm saddened by Trump, I'm saddened about all the trolls that came out from under there rocks and are now acting like slavery, racism, sexism, bigotry, and every other nasty thing we have fought to destroy is back on the table to debate. How bad will it be if Trump gets another four years? I don't want to think about it, it almost makes me cry knowing many many families will never be the same, will never be together again. I miss the United States I know and love. I know it was not perfect but at least I felt we were going in the right direction. So many Republicans that are traitors, any person that followed Trump down the rabbit hole needs to pay for the damage they have caused.

  • Proud Liberal Dad says:

    Why are we not pressing charges on the companies that employed these people? Answer: Trump would be brought up on charges as well. Trump will backstab anyone for any reason, what a horrible person.

  • So what happens when they say it means all legal Americans if you can’t make enough to care for yourself especially when heading for a recession? Should we too be put out of America?

  • Lytle Chamberlain says:

    5:10 ‒ "There is no insult, no failing, in participating in those programs at some point in your life."

    Absolutely. You know who had to use socialist programs for several years of her life? J.K. Rowling, who was a single mother at the time. Without that support, there is no Harry Potter ‒& perhaps more importantly, her children grow up without nearly as much love & supportive parenting.

    … So yeah, basically what I'm saying is that if you like Harry Potter, you're not allowed to believe we should destroy the social safety net, & if you do, you're never allowed to read the books again or tell people which Hogwarts house you think you would have been sorted into.

  • Michele Givens says:

    For those that say "but they broke the law…" when told their kids were left at alone at school:
    If police arrest anyone for any crime and that person has charge of a minor child, authorities are required to make provisions for and assure the safety of the child. And the child wouldn't be left at school uninformed with no information. So treating children of workers at a chicken plant is inexcusable.
    (And no, I'm not equating the undocumented with murderers, I'm simply making the point the murderer's kids would be treated better)

  • Katt Kang? Is such a beautiful human m, who I assume will receive a lot of hate. Thank you! I think, as a brown person, we need white people to stand against this ehite supremacist movement. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

  • They're not just leaving children crying. They're leaving fake news commentators crying too.lol using children for cheap political points. Msnbc at it's worst.

  • Here's an idea, let's just let everybody from everywhere in the entire world come here without any process and we'll just feed them all. We'll provide healthcare for all free of charge. We'll house them free of charge while there are literally tents set up on streets that stretch for miles of our own homeless absolutely nobody does anything for. That is seriously the core logic of MSNBC trying to point out a problem with this. How about we just start an adopt an illegal immigrant that nobody knows anything about to give the right to those who support illegal immigrants to adopt them, bring them into their own homes, pay for their medical bills, feed them, and leave them unsupervised in their homes around their children since they seem to feel so strongly for them. I guarantee absolutely nobody would be willing to do it but our president tries to give us the citizens the same protection and he is racist? I never thought politics would become so ignorant just to paint a president people don't like in a bad light. He could literally give everyone a million dollars and you people would say it's so he profits in some way from it and make it a terrible thing. Being in 2019 is like living in a world where 70 percent of the people are Forrest Gump

  • Get the owns first fine them first not saying illegal immigrants should have the weight of the law thrown at them but let's be honest these jobs are not you Americans want to do U.K. now you have to prove that you are allowed to work in the UK and its not cheap

  • derek ramires cuevas says:

    cuchi should read the Torah and see what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah and why, Mr. cuchi , you and Trump fit right in!!!

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