Desperation? Trump’s Top Aide Now Suing Trump Over Impeachment Testimony | MSNBC

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  • Adam Schiff says he doesn’t want Republicans turning the impeachment proceedings into a “sham.” The hilarious irony is lost on no one. Schiff has already managed to accomplish it all on his own.

    At first, Schiff wanted the “whistleblower” who triggered the impeachment to testify. Then, suddenly, he didn’t. What changed? In the interim, evidence emerged that Schiff and/or his staff colluded with the “whistleblower” before the complaint was ever filed and then lied about it, earning Schiff “Four Pinocchios” from The Washington Post. (Yes, even WaPo, the bastion of the Dem leakers like Schiff, said this!)

    Schiff now wants to conceal his own role in engineering the pretext for impeachment and his subsequent deceit. This is why he has insisted that the “whistleblower” remain anonymous, despite no such right, guarantee, privilege, or entitlement written in the law (Yes, you can read it – there is no ananymity protection! Even though the informant (working for the CIA) does not qualify for whistleblower status under the law as determined by the Department of Justice, any effort by Republicans to call him as a witness will be blocked by Schiff in rules that deny any transparency or due process.

    But Schiff’s machinations are more malevolent than masking the key witness. Those he will call to testify are already on record dishing up prodigious plates of multiple hearsay and rank speculation. It is obvious from the released transcripts of the heretofore “super top-secret” inquisition that none of them have any firsthand knowledge of a “quid pro quo” allegedly demanded by President Trump.

    For example, Bill Taylor, the acting ambassador to Ukraine who will testify on Wednesday, told Schiff’s committee that it was his “understanding” there was a link between U.S. security assistance and an investigation of Joe and Hunter Biden. How did Taylor arrive at his opinion? He heard it through discussions with other diplomats, although there is no indication that any of these individuals had direct knowledge of anything. The chain of hearsay went something like this: the European Union Ambassador Gordon Sondland told National Security Council official Tim Morrison who, in turn, told Taylor that there was a purported “quid pro quo.”

    But wait. If Sondland was the original source, where did he get his information? He initially testified that in a brief phone conversation with Trump, the president explicitly told him, “I want nothing … I want no quid pro quo.” Sondland added that he “never” thought there was a precondition on aid. Later, he revised his testimony to state, “I presumed that the aid suspension had become linked to the proposed anti-corruption statement.” Huh?

    Ah, yes. He “presumed.” Reliable witnesses do not assume or presume anything. If they do, it is nothing more than supposition that should be discarded like yesterday’s trash.

    The biggest purveyor of assorted hearsay is another star witness for Schiff this Wednesday. Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent testified that he “believed” there was a “quid pro quo” after speaking to Taylor who spoke to Morrison who heard it from Sondland who, as noted, “presumed” a precondition. This is conjecture built on triple hearsay. It is not evidence, it is junk. If this were a court of law, the presiding judge would instruct the jury to disregard such testimony and strike it from the record.

    Under cross-examination, these witnesses readily admitted they had no firsthand knowledge of the president’s intent during his telephone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. They simply propagated and repeated rumors and innuendo in their diplomatic echo chamber. But that has not stopped Schiff from pretending that they are valued witnesses. With the chairman’s encouragement and guidance, they have offered their interpretations of the Trump-Zelensky conversation. It reminds one of Schiff’s own dramatic interpretation of the phone call, which was nothing more than an unconscionable fabrication designed to smear Trump.

    A transcript of the real conversation is the best evidence of what actually occurred. Indeed, it is the only relevant and material evidence. Nowhere is there a demand, condition, or pressure for a “quid pro quo” that made an investigation of the Bidens contingent on U.S. military assistance. This is corroborated by Zelensky who is on record stating that there was no blackmail involved and no pressure applied. “Nobody pushed me,” Zelensky said. “We had a great phone call,” he added. “It was normal.”

    The Ukrainian government has confirmed that it was unaware that U.S. aid had been temporarily suspended until almost five weeks after the call with Trump. It is impossible for there to be a “quid pro quo” when the recipient of the “quid” is oblivious to the existence of the “quo.”

    In the court of public opinion, Schiff increasingly reveals himself to be the court jester playing the fool. He presides over an investigatory charade that is anathema to fundamental fairness and due process.

    If the inquiry was equitable, both sides would be able to call their own witnesses. Yet, the House of Representatives passed its impeachment measure giving Schiff the right to veto GOP witnesses. He has already made it clear that he will do so, rejecting a request that the faux “whistleblower” testify. It is clear that other witnesses, including Schiff and/or his staff, will also be rejected.

    To his credit, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., has made it clear that if the unidentified informant who precipitated the impeachment “witch hunt” is not allowed to testify in the House, “this thing is dead on arrival in the Senate.”

    In truth, it was DOA the moment Schiff was put in charge of this clown show.

  • Let's just try to keep in mind that
    we live in a nation of law, not men.
    Service in the Executive branch is not part of a secret criminal operation, or at least it's not supposed to be.
    Congress is granted OVERSIGHT & ENFORCEMENT authority over the Executive. Therefore there IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR IGNORING LEGAL SOPENA FROM CONGRESS!!

  • The story so far . Lev is angry that Don had forgotten him and is likely to rat on Mike and Rudy. Igor keeps quiet. The Three Amigos try to head for the hills, but Rick still hasn't learnt to tap dance.  Mick is expecting to be seeing  the underside of a bus shortly but has asked a judge to stop him ratting on Don. Gym is gearing up for the circus stunts, and Matt looks on enviously.  Lindsey is stuck in the bunker splaying his shots in all directions. Nikki makes a play for Mike's job. 

    Nancy & Adam look sad , but are secretly happy.

  • DEMOCRAT WITNESS : My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

  • This is sooo tiring. No substance. He mentioned “mudding the waters” which is exactly what this opinion piece is doing. Msnbc really needs a dose of intelligence.

  • I kind of hope Trump beats this. Kind of. But I'm sceptical of the Dems tactics, but I'm also curious why the cons keep parroting Trump and won't fight for America instead of Trump.

  • Maliblu CityHall says:

    good opportunity for trump is declassify and release some of Obama's phone calls to foreign leaders. just call up the nsa, they for sure got them

  • Trump is a moron and would self-incriminate, aka., "lie until the truth came out". But he is a coward and will hide behind his protectors who take pleasure in selling out the Constitution for an Orange Clown.

  • So trumps a bad leader, Trudeau's a bad leader, doing the opposite of each other while both using money in non constitutional ways. What's the happy middle? Dwayne Johnson 🤣

  • Executive privilege does not apply to Mulveny because he already opened the door to the issue by making two 2 statements, even though they were not the same. And in the impeachment trial, except for the classified information, he can't make the 5th, based on the executive privilege, which does not apply to his case because he already made a comment in his two statement.

  • I am following the impeachment process from the UK and from an outsiders point of view Ari Melber's coverage has been 2nd to none. He breaks it down without partisan hysteria or hyperbole and I have learned so much about how the American system works over the last few weeks from these videos.

  • It’s amazing how all of this somehow removed from republicans memories. That’s why I’m more frustrated with graham on this whole thing. The biggest hypocrite ever. He knows the facts and he has stated publicly he won’t read testimony of witnesses who have no reason to lie, won’t do his job that we the people elected him to do, yet stood on the senate floor and preached and defended the impeachment of a dem. Disgusting! As for trumps other cronies Jordan ( pro molestation ), Gaetz (child drunk), and Moscow Mitch, they will continue to get rug burns on their knees and if mulvany and Rudy don’t think they will be thrown to the wolves, they are stupider than they act!

  • Clinton was impeached over seaman on dress. Trump will be impeached over a phone call. Wait till they find out foriegn aids ends up in politicians pockets.

  • Imagine this. What if the Obama administration would have pulled a stunt like this Ukraine thing? Oh my god they would be foaming at the mouth screaming impeachment!!! It would be quite a scene!! Trump would be leading the charge!!

  • Fake news, Trump has black, Hispanic Asian and female unemployment at an all-time low. The unemployment rate the lowest in 50 years. Average household income at all time high. More Americans working then ever before. Wages are up. The corrupt news media is lying to you everyday

  • Kevin Wordsworth says:

    Well Mulvane's problem is he thought the crim boss in the oval office would help him but i think The putin puppet has already threw him under the bus ,airforce one and probably a few military tank units he is too dumb like the rest of the sickofucks to realize it

  • Remember folks. If you vote for democrat you are supporting pedophilia, child trafficking and destruction of your own home and country.
    # Epsteindidntkillhimself

  • Karen From Finasse says:

    Lol guess Mulvaney isn't as stupid as he looks. Anyone who isn't jumping the sinking ship that is Trump's White House is going down with it.

  • Breaking news President t was seen in New York City Trump Tower purchasing crack cocaine for himself and his son this is devastating but it answers a lot of questions of his behavior while in the White House

  • This is beginning to chap my hide. We are fortunate enough to live in a nation governed by three branches: Executive, Judicial, and Legislative. These branches of government are co-equal, meaning that no one branch has more sway or greater authority than the other two. There are certain laws in place, for which our founding fathers wisely saw the need, that serve as checks and balances that prevent the undue usurpation of power from the other branches. Remember the historical context: chafing under colonial rule, these guys founded a new nation — a new country on the global map, which became the leader of the free world in record time. I believe our freedom is worth fighting for, which is one reason I served, and I believe this “administration” to be an obscene pantomime of a “presidency.” (The quotation marks are for effect; I use air quotes with Trump to emphasize his inadequacy on all levels.) The Articles of Impeachment are there, in our Constitution, to do enable us, the citizenry, to remove any president that doesn’t follow the law, and there are very specific examples in there, including bribery and seeking or accepting help from a foreign government for any reason. The Constitution specifically prohibits behaviors to which Donald Trump has openly admitted, as well as demonstrated on live television. We have many credible witnesses ready to testify to these truths. It’s very sad, but it’s absolutely necessary for the security of this nation that he be removed from office. It’s vital to the preservation of our constitutional democracy. And remember, the whole world is watching: we’ve spent the last three years alienating allies, ruling by capricious and wholly uninformed decree, and making a mess of everything, because it’s always got to be about this carney barker, this snake oil salesman, this lying, cheating grifter, “The Donald.” History will be cruel to him, and rightly so. And we are in that history, as citizens with rights, right this very second, so get busy, you guys: talk to people. Organize. Register. And please vote. Our nation depends on your participation.

  • the people need to know why hunter biden was pocketing millions from foreign companies and governments. that money ultimately came from us tax payers./,

  • So politicians lie .
    N reporters catch them on the lie ..
    Result : Nothing…

    All the talk does not change the system for liars and crooks to be elected or given office.

  • Trump and his Administration is caving! We're seeing signs of cracks!! This thing is going to explode once the truth comes out!!

  • sydney wellington says:

    Trump was necessary. He provoked a radiography of the society. (Involuntarily) Now I see America differently, the world differently. Now I know that democracy is fragile and we can lose it anytime. And I learned that the GOP has no respect for family values or for justice. Sadly, I couldn't imagine a situation where they accept to serve Russia. I'm astonished, but I still wait for Republicans to wake up. And I really miss a President able to spell a large word and to build a logic discourse (not a narcissistic "word salad").

  • What an absolute contortion of facts- Your channel should be embarrassed to call itself NEWS.MSNBC YOU ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK FOR THE REST OF THE FREE WORLD -ITS AMAZING HOW MANY MORONS YOU HAVE BELIEVING YOUR BS—–THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY THE LAZY SHEEP THAT CANT EVEN BE BOTHERED TO DO SOME ACTUAL RESEARCH— WE WATCH YOUR PREDICTABLE CRAP FROM OTHER COUNTRIES THAT HAVE ACTUAL NEWS SERVICES THAT GIVE ACTUAL NON BIASED FACTS< AND YOU ARE WITHOUT DOUBT ONE OF THE TOP BOUGHT FAKE NEWS OUTLETS IN THE WESTERN WORLD. IT IS GOING TO BE HILARIOUS WATCHING YOU CRUMBLE AS THE DNC NARRATIVE YOU SPIN IS SHOWN TO BE THE SMOKE SCREEN TRYING TO COVER UP DECADES OF ABUSE AND CORRUPTION THAT HAS BEEN PERPETRATED BY DNC OFFICIALS(CLINTON ,OBAMA, BIDEN, etc,etc). IT IS AS OBVIOUS AS YOUR NEXT BS NARRATION. YOU DESERVE EVERY LAST BIT OF HUMILIATION AND CONDEMNATION THAT IS COMING YOUR WAY>SHAME ON YOU

  • HA HA. All these comments about Trump and even if the lying Dems try to impeach its going nowhere. Say your energy. It aint gunna happen

  • As always, MSNBC is speculating and providing lopsided details reagrding this investigation. Listen to the questions asked. Are their other ways to ask the same question that does not provide suggestion to the audience? I ask that our fellow American people watching this to please take this with a grain of salt; I further ask that the audience not lean on MSNBC too much for thier perspective. I then ask that folks use critical thinking to ask the right questions regarding what is going on. Please do not simply write this situation off as one way or another; critically think about what truly is going on. As kyourself why you are feeling the way you are. Think logically; make decisions logically.

    The bottom line is that MSNBC is feeding you a Sloppy Joe; I am simply asking that you pick it apart and look at the meat. How much truth is there here? How much speculation is there? Is MSNBC trying to sway you to think a certain way? You can trust, but you should verify on your own.

    Unfortunately, when news outfits provide a lot of speculation and what seems to be facts, but really aren't because what has been provided has been taken out of context, I tend to trust them less and less and verify more and more.

  • D.C.'s swamp is about to swallow D-J. Trump Sr. into scandal and destitution. Trump is not only a past and failed entrepreneur, but is also a apprentice to a political hasbeen. His role in history is about to be writen in dark letters: unpopular but set into office by an obsolete institution, the electoral college, and a impeached by a recent technical process and fired from office due to electoral manipulation of federal funds.

  • MSNBC is the only desperate ones. They WISH SO BAD Trump was guilty of something, while ignoring Biden bragging about doing FAR WORSE

  • ……….'' I'm going to have the best people around me ''…………..'' I love the poorly educated''………2 of my favorites !!!!!

  • Ari is great when he does solos! Absolutely terrible during interviews…where he continuously cutoff and interrupts answers from his guests… Ari should stick with solos…

  • A quid pro quo within the law that helps foster desired results for US foreign policy is acceptable; a quid pro quo pressured by a president for his own political gain through a shadow channel which solicits interference from a foreign power, clearly IS NOT.

  • Trump has a thin skin and everything has to be sugar coated for him,
    We live in a world were people can't tell the truth about the monsters who rule.   America and what it once stood for, no longer exists.

  • be sure to include his businesses as he did not divest as is required in the constitution…there should be penalties when you dont follow the rules

  • The Northern Spinozist says:

    Yea these historical examples are just other examples of constant Republican malfeasance. Good riddance to all of them!

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