Bernie Sanders will win the New Hampshire primary, ABC News projects


THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. NOW REPORTING, GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS. >>>WELCOME TO THE COVERAGE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. THE FIRST PRIMARY. OH, SO CONSEQUENTIAL. NO CANDIDATE WHO FAILED TO FINISH ONE OR TWO IN THE SMALL STATE HAS EVER WON THE NOMINATION. ALL THE POLLS IN THE STATE HAVE NOW CLOSED. THE VOTES ARE ALREADY BEING COUNTED. ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, IT’S A DOG FIGHT. BERNIE SANDERS LEADING RIGHT NOW. PETE BUTTIGIEG, AMY KLOBUCHAR VYING FOR SECOND. ELIZABETH WARREN AND JOE BIDEN MUCH FARTHER BACK ON THE EARLY RESULTS. ONLY 14% OF THE VOTE IS IN SO FAR. FOR THE REPUBLICANS, NO SURPRISE, ABC NEWS PROJECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL SCORE A MASSIVE WIN HERE. HE’S THE PROJECTED WINNER OVER BILL WELLS. THEY’RE LEARNING A LOT FROM THE VOTERS COMING INTO THE POLLS FROM OUR ENTRANCE, EXIT POLLS AFTER THE VOTES. I WANT TO BRING IN TOM LLAMAS IN MANCHESTER. A COUPLE OF THINGS. NUMBER ONE, SO MANY VOTERS ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE MADE UP THEIR MINDS IN JUST THESE LAST FEW DAYS.>>>THAT’S RIGHT, GEORGE. SOME OF THE EXIT POLLING SHOWS THAT. THE NUMBERS STUNNING. 50% OF VOTERS SAY THEY MADE UP THEIR MIND WHEN THEY WENT TO THE POLL TODAY. WE HAVE SOME OF THE GLASKS TO PUT ON THE SCREEN — GRAPHICS TO PUT ON THE SCREEN SHORTLY. THEY CAME IN UNDECIDED AND THEY WENT, 50/50. WHAT DOES THIS TELL US? IT TELLS US A COUPLE OF THINGS. CAMPAIGNS MATTER. ESPECIALLY IN THE FINAL HOURS LEADING UP TO TONIGHT. ALSO THE ABC NEWS DEBATE AND SO MANY PEOPLE SAID SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR WAS THE ONE WHO CAME OUT ON TOP THERE. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT VOTERS? WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. THE EARLY RESULTS SHOW SHE’S HAVING A GOOD NIGHT. SOMETHING ELSE INTERESTING THAT WE’VE LEARNED FROM THE EXIT POLLS. THE AMOUNT OF INDEPENDENT VOTERS VOTING IN THE PRIMARY. INDEPENDENTS CAN VOTE IN EITHER PRIMARY. 47% INDEPENDENT. 50% DEMOCRAT. 3% REPUBLICAN. 47% INDEPENDENT. THIS IS MORE THAN FOUR YEARS AGO, GEORGE. ALMOST THE RECORD WHICH WAS 1992. NOW, LAST TIME AROUND, BERNIE SANDERS, THE INDEPENDENTS BROKE FOR HIM BY AROUND 70%. WILL THAT HAPPEN IN TIME AROUND? I CAN TELL YOU THIS, GEORGE. IT’S ANECDOTAL. I WENT TO A COUPLE MAYOR PETE EVENT. I SPOKE TO A LOT OF VOTERS WHO FOUR YEARS AGO THEY VOTED FOR JOHN KASICH. WE’LL HAVE TO SEE IF THE INDEPENDENTS STAY WITH BERNIE OR TOWARDS MAYOR PETE OR AMY KLOBUCHAR. WE’RE WATCHING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. NOT EACH HERE TONIGHT.>>HE’S DOWN IN SOUTH CAROLINA READING THE RESULTS AHEAD OF TIME. AT THE START OF THE DEBATE ON FRIDAY, HE EXPECTED TO TAKE A HIT HERE. THAT APPEARS TO BE COMING TRUE. MARY BRUCE, TO YOU IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE AS WELL. WE’RE GOING TO BE FOLLOW TONIGHT THE BREAKDOWN OF OLDER VERSUS YOUNGER VOTERS AND WOMEN VOTERS. WHERE DID THEY DOMINATE AT THE POLLS TONIGHT?>>YEAH. WHAT IS SO INTERESTING HERE IS THAT VOTERS, WE’VE TALKED TO MANY OF THEM ARE DECIDING IF YOU WANT A WOMAN FOR PRESIDENT, ARE YOU GOING WITH ELIZABETH WARREN OR AMY KLOBUCHAR. I WAS SURPRISED SPENDING TIME WITH SENATOR KLOBUCHAR OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS. HOW MANY OF HER SUPPORTERS REFERENCE THAT. HOW MANY OF THEM WERE AT HER EVENT SAYING THEY HAVEN’T MADE UP THEIR MIND. AS TOM WAS MENTIONING, THE EXIT POLLS ARE REFLECTING THAT. THIS WAS A GAME TIME DECISION. A LOT OF THEM FEEL THAT THAT DEBATE IN PARTICULAR ENCOURAGE D THEM TO GIVE A LOT OF CANDIDATES A CLOSER LOOK. SHE MENTIONED THAT TO ME PARTICULARLY. A LOT OF YOUNG VOTERS AT HER EVENT AS WELL. SO MANY YOUNG VOTERS TREND TOWARDS BERNIE SANDERS. I WAS AT HIS MASSIVE RALLY LAST NIGHT. MORE THAN 7,000 PEOPLE. THIS IS BERNIE SANDERS’ TERRITORY IN MANY WAYS. FROM A NEIGHBORING STATE, YOU WON THIS STATE BY 22 POINTS IN 2016. THE YOUNG VOTE STILL VERY MUCH WITH HIM. >>BRUCE, THANKS VERY MUCH. BREAKING NEWS FROM — ANDREW YANG’S HEADQUARTERS. HE’S DROPPING OUT.>>JUST A LIS HEN. HE IS DROPPING OUT TONIGHT. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF SUPPORTERS HERE. THEY STILL ACTUALLY DO NOT KNOW, THEY HAVEN’T HEARD THE NEWS. A LOT OF THEM ARE EXPECTING TO FIND OUT THE RESULTS TONIGHT AND THEN MAKE A DECISION AT THE END OF THE NIGHT. THESE SUPPORTERS ARE, A CULT FOLLOWING HERE. THEY ABSOLUTELY ADORE THEM. THEY LOVE HIS PLAN TO GIVE $1,000 A MONTH. SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO FIND OUT BEHIND ME. EVEN STARTED A MINI MOVEMENT. HE DID NOT HAVE THE MASS. HE CUT STAFF BACK. HE HAD ONE DELEGATE IN THIS STATE. ALWAYS IN SINGLE DIGITS. HERE’S THE GOOD NEWS. SOMEONE ASKED IF HE CONSIDERED A RUN IN 2024. HE SAID HE’S OPEN TO IT AS LONG AS ECONOMIC PROBLEMS THAT EXIST RIGHT NOW — >>THE OTHER NEWS THERE. IT’S AMAZING HE GOT THIS FAR. THERE ARE MANY MORE ESTABLISHED CANDIDATES. A FORMER CANDIDATE, HE MADE IT IN THROUGH THE VOTES IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE.>>HE WAS REALLY ABLE TO PIERCE THROUGH THAT NOISE. HE HAD A PLAN. THEY LOVED HIS PLAN. A THOUSAND DOLLARS MONTH. IT WASN’T JUST THAT. HE HAS A LOT OF PERSONALITY. YOU REMEMBER HIM JUMPING IN AND SINGING WITH PEOPLE. HE SKATEBOARDED AROUND AND PLAYED BASKETBALL WITH ME AND MY PRODUCER. PEOPLE COULD RELATE TO HIM. HE WAS ACTIVE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THE FIRST EXCHANGE I HAD WITH HIM WAS ON TWITTER. SO HE’S INCREDIBLY ENGAGING WITH YOUNG PEOPLE. >>THANK YOU. >>Ed: REASON.>>WANT TO GO BACK TO — ONE OF THE STORIES SHAPING UP TONIGHT, HEIDI, IS YOUR FORMER COLLEAGUE, AMY KLOBUCHAR FROM MINNESOTA. THERE IN MINNESOTA, FIFTH PLACE IN IOWA LAST WEEK. BUT YET SHE — A LOT OF PEOPLE THINKING YOU DROP OUT. SHE HANGS IN THERE. GOES TO THE DEBATE. SEEMS TO HAVE HAD A LOT OF MOMENTUM IN THE FINAL WEEKEND.>>ANYONE WHO UNDER ESTIMATES AMY KLOBUCHAR UNDER ESTIMATES HER AT THEIR OWN PERIL. SHE’S ABOUT AS TENACIOUS AND STEADY AS — VERY GOOD POLITICIAN AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE RESULTS IN MINNESOTA. I THINK SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE’S DOING. BUT SHE HAS BEEN FACED WITH SCRUTINY. I THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER NEW HAMPSHIRE. SHE’S GOING TO HAVE A BIG NIGHT TONIGHT. I COULDN’T BE HAPPIER FOR MY GOOD FRIEND, AMY KLOBUCHAR. >>THANK YOU, SENATOR. WANT TO GO DOWN TO SOUTH CAROLINA WHERE JOE BIDEN WILL BE. EAVE I TOLL GRAM IS THERE FOR US. IT DOESN’T LOOK LIKE THE NUMBERS ARE COMING IN FOR JOE BIDEN. HE SAW THAT COMING. NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. THERE ARE GOING TO BE REAL QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH LONGER HE CAN GO ON IF HE DOESN’T IMPROVE OVER THE COURSE OF THE SEASON. >>THAET THAT’S RIGHT. YOU MENTIONED A FEW MOMENTS AGO, HOW HE BASICALLY CONCEDED NEW HAMPSHIRE DURING THE DEBATE LAST FRIDAY. THEY SAID ALL ALONG THAT IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE DON’T PLAY TO HIS STRENGTHS. HIS CAMPAIGN TONIGHT, THE MESSAGING THEY’RE PUTTING OUT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST TWO CONTESTS, RULING OUT A LOT OF BLACK AND BROWN VOICES IF YOU MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE FIRST TWO CONTESTS ALONE. THAT’S WHY HE DECIDED TO COME TO SOUTH CAROLINA TONIGHT. MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THE VOICE RS IMPORTANT AND HE IS — >>WANT TO GO TO YVETTE SIMPSON. DEMOCRACY FOR AMERICA. IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 92, 93% OF WHITE VOTES. YOU HAVEN’T SEEN AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS, HISPANIC VOTERS, LATINO VOTERS WEIGH IN YET. DOES JOE BIDEN HAVE ENOUGH OXYGEN TO GET TO SOUTH CAROLINA.>>THAT IS THE QUESTION FOR HIM. HE DOESN’T HAVE MUCH MO LOSE. HE EXPECTS TO WIN BIG IN SOUTH CAROLINA. YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOW SMALL THE DELEGATE COUNT IS FOR THE FIRST TWO. SOUTH CAROLINA, HE CAN MAKE A COMEBACK. >>WE HAVE SEEN SOUTH CAROLINA VOTERS KEY OFF EARLIER RESULTS IN THE PAST AND THERE’S NO QUESTION. EVEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS FROM SCANT EVIDENCE WE HAVE SHALL HE SEEMS TO BE DROPPING IF HE DOESN’T PERFORM.>>BEFORE IN SOUTH CAROLINA, YOU WANT TO GET BEHIND A WINNER. IF THEY THINK YOU’RE GOING TO LOSE, NOT GOING TO BE WITH YOU. AS MUCH AS THEY WANT OBAMA BACK, THEY WANT — BLOOMBERG COULD GET AN ADVANTAGE IN SOUTH CAROLINA BECAUSE THE ADS ARE PENETRATING WITH THE OLDER VOTERS. THEY THINK HE CAN BEAT TRUMP. >>I WANT TO GO TO JOHN KARL. WE ARE WITH MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG’S HEADQUARTERS. REPORTING ON MAYOR BLOOMBERG AS WELL. HE PULLED A SURPRISE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. EVEN THOUGH HE WON THE TWO VOTES ON THE DEMOCRATIC VOTES IN DIXVILLE NOTCH. HE BECAME A BIG PART OF THE STORY TODAY. >>IT WAS A PR COUP FOR HIM. FIVE VOTERS IN DIXVILLE NOTCH. BUT BECAUSE THEY VOTE FIRST, THEY DOMINATE THE COVERAGE EVERY MORNING EVERY FOUR YEARS. YOU KNOW, HE CALLED VIRTUALLY ALL OF THOSE VOTERS AND WON NOT ONLY THE DEMOCRATIC BUT THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY AS WELL. HERE AT THE HEADQUARTERS FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG, I SPOKE WITH HIM JUST A SHORT WHILE AGO, GEORGE. HE TOLD ME HE ABSOLUTELY NEEDED A BIG NIGHT HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. HE TOLD ME THAT HE WAS COMPETING TO WIN. HE MAY NOT DO THAT. THE EARLY RETURNS HERE LOOK LIKE HE’S GOING TO HAVE A BIG NIGHT. QUITE A STORY FOR SOMEBODY THAT GOT IN THIS RACE A YEAR AGO AS THE MAYOR OF A SMALL CITY IN INDIANA, SOUTH BEND, INDIANA WASN’T CONSIDERED A SERIOUS CANDIDATE. HERE HE IS CLEARLY IN THIS FOR THE LONG HAUL. >>HE IS IN THE FIGHT TONIGHT. WANT TO GO TO WHIT JOHNSON. BERNIE SANDERS HEADQUARTERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. LOOKING AHEAD, AS WE’VE SAID. BERNIE SANDERS IS LEADING RIGHT NOW. WE CAN’T CALL THE RACE BY ANY MEANS YET. FOUR YEARS AGO, HE WON AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON BIG. 60% OF THE VOTE.>>GEORGE, THAT’S RIGHT. THEY’RE NOT EXPECTING A CLOSE RACE LIKE THAT THIS TIME AROUND IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. EXCUSE ME, A BLOWOUT WIN LIKE FOUR YEARS AGO. YOU TALKED ABOUT MORE THAN 20 POINTS OVER HILLARY CLINTON. THEY ARE EXPECTING A VERY CLOSE RACE HERE TONIGHT. I CAN TELL YOU, I JUST SPOKE WITH A SENIOR CAMPAIGN ADVISER WITH BERNIE SANDERS WHO TELLS ME THEY FEEL LIKE THE BASKETBALL GAME JUST STARTED AND THEY WON THE TIPOFF. THAT’S HOW HE DESCRIBED IT. HE LIKES THE EARLY RESULTS THEY’RE SEEING. BUT THEY’RE NOT TOO CARRIED AWAY OR EXCITED. THEY HAVE CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM IN ALL OF THIS. HE TELLS ME THAT BERNIE SANDERS RIGHT NOW IS WITH HIS TOP ADVISERS. AND WHAT HE CALLS A WAR ROOM. WATCHING THE RESULTS COME IN. WE SAW SANDERS HIMSELF AT A POLLING LOCATION EARLIER TODAY EXPRESSING CONFIDENCE, SAYING HE LIKES HIS CHANCES HERE AS WELL. AGAIN, THE CAMPAIGN GOING BACK TO THE GROUND GAME WE TALKED ABOUT IN IOWA, KNOCKING ON MORE THAN 700,000 DOORS HERE IN THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE AND WHEN YOU PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE AND DO THE MATH, THERE ARE FEWER THAN 300,000 REGISTERED DEMOCRATS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AND JUST MORE THAN 400,000 REGISTERED UNDECLARED VOTERS. SO THE BERNIE CAMPAIGN LITERALLY TRYING TO REACH OUT AND TOUCH AND TALK TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE WHO CAN CAST A VOTE HERE IN THE PRIMARY. THEY LIKE WHAT THEY ARE SEEING SO FAR. BUT TRYING TO JUST WAIT AND SEE IF THE RESULTS COME IN. GEORGE. >>SANDERS HEADQUARTERS. AMY KLOBUCHAR HEADQUARTERS KWR RACHEL SCOTT IS. DIDN’T KNOW THIS NIGHT WOULD BE COMING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.>>THAT’S RIGHT, GEORGE. HER CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY A LOT OF THIS MOMENTUM. THEY’VE BEEN SCRAMBLING. MANY SUPPORTERS AS POSSIBLE AT HER EVENTS. TONIGHT, THEY’RE LOOKING TO TURN THE DEBATE MOMENT INTO MOMENTUM. THEY WANT TO CAPITALIZE OFF A STRONG PERFORMANCE BY SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR ON THAT STAGE. MANY VOTERS LIKED WHAT THEY SAW UP THERE. AFTER THAT DEBATE, SHE RAISED MORE THAN $3 MILLION. AND THEN THE TURNOUT THIS WEEKEND, 700 AT ONE EVENT, MORE THAN A THOUSAND AT THE NEXT. THAT’S THE LARGEST TURNOUT IN THE STATE SO FAR. IN MANY WAYS, SHE’S A CANDIDATE THAT BENEFITED FROM SOME OF THE CHAOS AND UNCERTAINTY OVER THE IOWA CAUCUSES. NORMALLY THAT FIFTH PLACE FINISH MEANS THE END OF THE ROAD FOR SOME CAMPAIGNS. HER CAMPAIGN IS LOOKING TO SEIZE ON THIS MOMENT. >>>FOR ALL OF YOU JUST JOINING US, WE’RE COVERING THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. IT’S A DOG FIGHT ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. BERNIE SANDERS IS LEADING. YOU SEE THE RESULTS. 17% OF THE VOTE. 28% OF IT. FOLLOWED CLOSELY BY PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR. THAT’S ONE OF THE SURPRISES OF THE NIGHT RIGHT NOW. SHE CAME IN FIFTH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. VYING FOR SECOND IN IOWA, VYING OR SECOND IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. FALLING FAR BEHIND, ELIZABETH WARREN AND JOE BIDEN RIGHT THERE. TOUGH NIGHTS FOR THEM. I WANT TO GO TO ELIZABETH WARREN HEADQUARTERS WHERE STEPHANIE RAMOS IS ON THE SCENE. STEPHANIE, ELIZABETH WARREN, SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS, RIGHT NEXT DOOR, EXPECTED TO DO MUCH BETTER. ONE OF THE BIGGEST ORGANIZATIONS IN THE STATE. LOOKING LIKE A DISAPPOINTING NIGHT FOR HER.>>Reporter: GEORGE, I THINK THAT’S WHAT SUPPORTERS WERE HOPING THAT BECAUSE SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN IS ACROSS THE WAY IN MASSACHUSETTS, A SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS, WE WERE HOPING THAT WORKED TO HER ADVANTAGE. I CAN TELL YOU, THERE IS A DIFFERENT VIBE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE COMPARED TO WHAT WE SAW IN IOWA. SOME FOLKS ARE EXCITED AND SOME FOLKS ARE SETTING THEMSELVES UP FOR A DISAPPOINTMENT. I CAN TELL YOU FROM WHAT WE’VE SEEN ON THE GROUND, SENATOR WARREN’S FOCUS HAS BEEN DIFFERENT. SHE HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON GETTING AS MANY CAMPAIGN EVENTS ON HER SCHEDULE. THIS SATURDAY, NEARLY A DOZEN. SHE’S GOTTEN MORE PERSONAL WITH VOTERS. A LOT MORE PERSONAL ON HER EVENTS, TALKING ABOUT HER DECISION TO GO TO COLLEGE AND BRINGING UP HER SENATE RACE IN 2012 WHEN SHE WAS UP AGAINST SCOTT BROWN CALLING THAT RACE PAINFUL. BUT ALSO EMPHASIZING THAT SHE WON. AND SHE HAS TOLD VOTERS HERE THAT SHE CAN WIN UP AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP. BUT HER CAMPAIGN TELLING ME THIS IS A MARATHON, IT IS NOT A SPRINT. THEY’RE IN FOR THE LONG GAME, GEORGE. >>WANT TO GO TO ANDREW YANG HEADQUARTERS. HE IS SPEAKING. HE DECIDED TO DROP OUT OF THIS RACE. >>THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU’VE DONE TO MAKE THIS CAMPAIGN POSSIBLE OVER THESE PAST MONTHS. YOU ALL HAVE UPLIFTED ME AND INSPIRED ME AND EVELYN IN THIS CAMPAIGN AT EVERY TURN. YOUR PASSION AND ENERGY, YOUR DONATIONS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HOURS CALLING, VOLUNTEERING, YOUR ENTHUSIASM, DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT, WE’VE ACCOMPLISHED SO MUCH TOGETHER. [ CHEERING ] WE HAVE BROUGHT A MESSAGE OF HUMANITY FIRST AND — IT WORKS FOR US AND OUR FAMILIES TO MILLIONS OF OUR FELLOW AMERICANS.>>CAMPAIGN WITH A PURPOSE. WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT PROPOSAL HE HAD TO GET A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO EVERY AMERICAN FAMILY. WAY TO CREATE OPPORTUNITY IN THIS COUNTRY. LASTED OVER A YEAR IN THIS RACE. TONIGHT HE’S ENDING HIS RACE FOR PRESIDENT HERE IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. OF COURSE, THE REPUBLICANS HAVE HAD A PRIMARY HERE TONIGHT AS WELL IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND PRESIDENT TRUMP, NO SURPRISE, THE BIG WINNER TONIGHT OVER BILL WELLS. YOU SEE THE PRESIDENT’S STRATEGY COMES INTO IOWA THE NIGHT BEFORE THE IOWA CAUCUSES, THE NEW HAMPSHIRE BEFORE THAT PPRIMARY. HE’S BEEN TWEETING AT BLOOMBERG, TWEETING AT BERNIE SANDERS ALL DAY. I’M REALLY STRUCK BY ONE OF THE EARLY EXIT POLL NUMBERS THAT WE SAW THAT WAS THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY THAT SAID 54% SAY THAT THEIR ALLEGIANCE IS MORE WITH DONALD TRUMP THAN WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. THIS IS — WE SAID THIS ON IOWA. WE’VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR THE LAST WEEK GIVEN THE STATE OF EVERYTHING. THIS IS DONALD TRUMP’S PARTY RIGHT NOW. MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT. AND HE IS RIDING HIGH. HE IS FEELING EMBOLDENED AFTER IMPEACHMENT, AFTER THE DEBACLE IN IOWA AND YOU SEE IT COMING TO FRUITION IN WASHINGTON TODAY. THERE WAS A HUGE STUNNING MOVE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THAT REALLY WAS CONSIDERED TO BE UNPRECEDENTED WHEN IT — IT RECOMMENDED AGAINST ITS OWN PROSECUTORS WHO WANTED ROGER STONE, TRUMP ALLY, TO BE IN PRISON FOR SEVEN TO TEN YEARS. SENTENCED TO SEVEN TO TEN YEARS. IN A STUNNING MOVE, THEY CAME OUT AND RECOMMENDED AGAINST THAT. THAT WAS HOURS AFTER THE PRESIDENT’S OWN TWEET. THE STORYLINE OF COURSE OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION, THAT THE PRESIDENT’S TWEET IN SUPPORT OF ROGER STONE HAPPENED — THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE TWO. NONETHELESS, THIS IS, GEORGE, SOMETHING THAT SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FEARING. THAT THE PRESIDENT AND THE WHITE HOUSE WOULD STEP ON THEMSELVES AS THEY’RE RIDING HIGH IN VICTORY RIGHT NOW.>>CHRIS CHRISTIE IS HERE WITH US. THE PRESIDENT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND BACK IN WASHINGTON AS WELL. I WANT TO GO BACK FOUR YEARS AGO. YOU WERE RUNNING AGAINST THE PRESIDENT. >>YEAH. >>IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. HE WAS BASICALLY TOPPING OUT UP UNTIL THE END AROUND 40%. NEVER GET MORE THAN THAT. HAD SOME TROUBLE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. IT IS HIS PARTY RIGHT NOW. >>YEAH. LISTEN, YOU KNOW, THE OLD SAYING, GEORGE, AS YOU KNOW, IS DEMOCRATS FALL IN LOVE. REPUBLICANS FALL IN LINE. THAT’S WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOES MOST OF THE TIME. WHEN THEY HAVE SOMEONE ELECTED PRESIDENT, GEORGE W. BUSH SAW EQUAL PARTS OF LOYALTY, ESPECIALLY POST 9/11 AMONG REPUBLICANS. I DON’T KNOW THAT WE ASKED THAT QUESTION IN THAT WAY DURING THE BUSH YEARS. IT’S NOT A TRUMPIAN — TRUMPIAN TYPE OF QUESTION. WE MIGHT HAVE SEEN THAT FOR GEORGE W. BUSH, ESPECIALLY IN THE POST 9/11 PERIOD. THAT’S WHAT REPUBLICANS DO. WHEN WE ELECT A LEADER, WHETHER SOME FOLKS WEREN’T IN THE PARTY, ORIGINALLY WEREN’T IN LOVE WITH THEM OR NOT. HE’S BEEN IN OFFICE FOR THREE YEARS NOW. THEY FALL IN LINE. >>THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS, THE PRESIDENT HITTING A LOT OF DIFFERENT NOTES. A WEEK AGO SINCE THEN, WE’VE SEEN A PEP RALLY IN THE EAST ROOM, THE FIRINGS OF PEOPLE WHO TESTIFIED AGAINST HIM IN THE IMPEACHMENT. WE SAW WHAT WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT TODAY, UNPRECEDENTED MOVE IN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. IS THE PRESIDENT GETTING IN HIS OWN WAY?>>HE OFTEN STEPS ON HIS OWN STORIES, UNFORTUNATELY. A LOT OF US TOLD HIM THAT OVER TIME. I SAID — THIS IS DONALD TRUMP’S STYLE. THIS IS HIS PERSONALITY. THIS IS THE WAY HE’S GOING TO BE. HE IS NOT GOING TO BASED ON POLLS AND DOING BETTER NOW. TETHER HIMSELF MORE CLOSELY. THAT’S NOT WHO HE IS. HE’S GOING TO BE WHO HE IS AS THE PRESIDENT. AND YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE DAYS THAT ARE GOOD AND OTHER DAYS WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS. IN THE END, I DON’T THINK ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED TODAY IS GOING TO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE RACE. BECAUSE IN THE END, RACES COME DOWN TO TWO CANDIDATES. COMPARISON OF THE TWO CANDIDATES, BINARY CHOICE. DONALD TRUMP, I THINK BEATS ANY OF THE FOLKS.>>THAT IS THE QUESTION I WANT TO TAKE TO MATTHEW DOWD. COMES DOWN TO TWO CANDIDATES IN THE END. ONE THING WE COULD SEE IN THE DEMOCRATIC — IN THE PRIMARIES, IT MIGHT TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET TO THE END. >>OH, I ACTUALLY THINK IT’S GOING TO TAKE A REALLY LONG TIME. I THINK SOMETHING TO REMIND EVERYBODY, OF ALL THE CONTESTS WE’LL HAVE, FOUR CONTESTS IN FEBRUARY, 150 DELEGATES WILL BE CHOSEN. YOU NEED 1991 ON THE FIRST BALLOT TO WIN. IN THE FIRST TEN DAYS OF MARCH, 1700 CANDIDATES — DELEGATES WILL BE CHOSEN. WHAT’S FASCINATING TO ME, SO MANY PEOPLE AFTER IOWA THOUGHT, IS THIS BECOMING A TWO-PERSON RACE. WHICH IS BERNIE AND PETE AND THEN HOW WOULD THEY FACE BLOOMBERG IN SUPER TUESDAY? WE’LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE NIGHT WITH AMY KLOBUCHAR’S BIG LIFT FROM THE DEBATE. IT’S LIKE NO, IT’S NOT A TWO-PERSON RACE TO SEE WHO FACES MIKE BLOOMBERG. IT MAY BE A THREE-PERSON RACE OR MORE. COUNTING THE DELEGATES, IT’S GOING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT. ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND, IT’S NOT SO MUCH IMPORTANT ABOUT WHAT YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS AND WHAT MONEY YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD. IT’S AS YOU GO THROUGH THESE CONTESTS, EVERY DAY AFTER THE KOCHB TEST IS OVER IS A TOUGH DAY IF YOU DIDN’T GET ANY DELEGATES IN THE PREVIOUS STATE. SO SOMEBODY, IF ELIZABETH WARREN OR JOE BIDEN THINK THEY CAN COME OUT OF THIS AND SAY I’M GOING TO GO AND HAVE A FIREWALL. FIREWALLS DON’T WORK IF YOU HAVE NO MOMENTUM. >>THERE’S OTHER MATH TO KEEP IN MIND AS WELL. THIS IS AFTER SUPER TUESDAY. IF YOU HAVE THREE CANDIDATES IN THE RACE AFTER SUPER TUESDAY ALL GETTING 15% OF THE VOTE. IT’S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE CANDIDATES TO HAVE ANY DELEGATES ON THE FIRST BALLOT. >>WE HEAR SOMEONE SPECULATE ABOUT A BROKER — >>YOU KNOW WHAT, I’M GOING TO GO ON A LIMB AND SAY I THINK THIS TIME IT’S REAL. HERE’S THE QUANDARY FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN MY VIEW. BERNIE SANDERS RAN A VERY GOOD RACE FOUR YEARS AGO AGAINST A PROHIBITED FAVORITE IN HILLARY CLINTON. HE BELIEVES AND MANY SUPPORTERS BELIEVE THAT IT WAS RIGGED. A LOT OF IT BELIEVE THE CARDS WERE STACKED IN HILLARY CLINTON’S FAVOR. IF WE GO INTO A CONTESTED CONVENTION THIS TIME, WE DON’T GIVE MAJORITY ON THE FIRST BALLOT. THE PARTY LEADER IS THE PARTY ROYALTY COMES IN. AND BERNIE SANDERS DOESN’T GET IT, I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE HE’LL BURN DOWN THAT VILLAGE IN ORDER TO SAVE IT. >>HE MAY NOT. SUPPORTERS MAY NOT GO ALONG WITH IT. THIS GETS BACK TO YOUR QUESTION FROM EARLIER. I WANT TO DIG DOWN MORE. LET’S PUT UP THE SCREEN OF RESULTS SO FAR TONIGHT. IF WE CAN PUT IT UP AGAIN, MARK. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, BERNIE SANDERS HAS NOT HISTORICALLY WON. PETE BUTTIGIEG FACING REAL QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS TENURE AS MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND. AMY KLOBUCHAR FACING QUESTIONS IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ABOUT HER TENURE AS PROSECUTOR IN MINNESOTA. OF COURSE, JOE BIDEN WAS COUNTING ON SUPPORT FROM AFRICAN AMERICANS. ELIZABETH WARREN SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT THERE, IF WARREN AND BIDEN PERFORMING THE WAY THEY ARE TONIGHT, WHERE IS THAT AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTE GOING TO GO?>>THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK BERNIE SANDERS GETS SOME OF IT. I’M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT BLOOMBERG IS GOING TO DO WITH THE BACKLASH ABOUT STOP AND FRISK. I THINK A LOT OF THAT GOES TO BERNIE SANDERS STILL. HE’S GOT A DIVERSE TEAM AND ARMS AND LEGS IN SOUTH CAROLINA. LAST TIME I CHECKED LAST WEEK, HE WAS WITHIN 5% OF BIDEN IN SOUTH CAROLINA. I DON’T THINK THOUGH, THAT BIDEN DROPS OUT. I DON’T THINK HE HAS ANYTHING TO LOSE BY GOING FORWARD TO SOUTH CAROLINA. HE’S PUTTING ALL OF HIS EGGS IN THE BASKET. I DON’T THINK ELIZABETH WARREN DROPS OUT. HE’S GOT — >>YOU PUT OUT A MEMO TODAY — >>[ OVERLAPPING TALKING ]. >>DEPENDS ON WHERE HER SUPPORT COMES FROM. WE COULD HAVE A RECKONING IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ABOUT THE FACT THAT IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, TWO OF THE MORE WHITE STATES, NEW HAMPSHIRE WITH A LOT OF INDEPENDENT VOTERS CASTING THEIR VOTE ABOUT WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE FIRST AND I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WE’LL HAVE, PARTICULARLY IF THIS RACE ENDS UP BEING DETERMINATIVE FOR PEOPLE LIKE BIDEN AND WARREN. >>I WOULD PREFER LOOKING AT THIS AND WE’LL SEE AS THE NIGHT GOES ON THE RESULTS. IF THE RESULTS STAY ROUGHLY WHERE THEY ARE NOW, AND BERNIE WINS NOT BY AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT, HE GOT 50% LESS TIME, HE DOESN’T — ABOVE 30, IF I WERE THEM, I’D BE REAL CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE RACE IS TELLING ME. HE GOT HALF THE VOTE IN IOWA LAST TIME. LESS THAN HALF OF VOTE THIS TIME. THERE SEEMS, IF THIS IS DEVELOPING, A LID MORE BERNIE SANDERS IN THIS. WHICH IS THE RACE NARROWS, IT BECOMES PROBLEMATIC. THE PROBLEM FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR IN THIS, DOES SHE HAVE A SECOND GEAR. DOES SHE HAVE A GEAR TO GO ON TO THE NEXT THING.>>I WANT TO BRING THIS TO HEIDI HEITKAMP. YOU ADD UP THE VOTES SO FAR AT LEAST, BERNIE SANDERS GETTING BASICALLY MORE LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE SIDE. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE VOTES, PETE BUTTIGIEG AND JOE BIDEN ARE GETTING, IT COMES DOWN TO 52% OR SO FOR THE MODERATES. 37% FOR THE PROGRESSIVES. THAT’S THE SPLIT IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY RIGHT NOW.>>ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT BOTH SIDES ARE TRYING TO GET THEIR SIDE TO COALESCE. SO IF ELIZABETH DROPS OUT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR BERNIE’S MOMENTUM. IF BIDEN DROPS OUT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR AMY. WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR — NOW THAT BLOOMBERG IS IN, VYING FOR THAT CENTER RIGHT SIDE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. SO THIS IS REALLY GOING TO COME DOWN TO AN IDEOLOGICAL FIGHT AND WHO IS GOING TO WIN EACH SECTOR OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, I THINK, IS STILL UNKNOWN. I DON’T THINK YOU SHOULD RULE ANYONE OUT. I AGREE WITH THAT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE PEOPLE ARE RIGHT NOW, THEY’VE GOT TO FIND THAT SECOND GEAR. THEY’VE GOT TO FIND THE COMPELLING CASE. JOE BIDEN’S CASE FOR WHY HE SHOULD BE — HE’S ELECTABLE. TWO ELECTIONS HAVE SHOWN THAT THAT’S NOT EXACTLY A PERSUASIVE ARGUMENT RIGHT NOW. ELIZABETH IS TRYING TO MAKE THAT ARGUMENT IN THE MEMO — IT’S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE FALLOUT IS. WE’RE GOING TO SEE THIS AS A PRIMARY SEASON WHERE IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE DO NOT HAVE THE BOUNCE OR THE MOMENTUM THAT THEY HAVE HAD IN THE PAST.>>THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE STORIES TONIGHT. SO FAR WHAT WE KNOW TONIGHT IS A DOG FIGHT ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. BERNDS IS LEADING RIGHT NOW. AS YOU SEE, ABOUT 23% OF THE VOTE. AMY HAS 28% OF THE VOTE. PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR VYING FOR SECOND. RIGHT NOW FAR BEHIND, JOE BIDEN AND ELIZABETH WARREN. I WANT TO GO BACK TO MARY BRUCE. ONE OF THE THINGS AT THE DEBATE ON FRIDAY NIGHT WAS BERNIE SANDERS TRYING TO STRIKE THAT NOTE THAT HE COULD BE THE DEMOCRAT WHO UNITED THE PARTY. HE’S BEEN ON THE SIDE OF THE FIGHTER IN THE PAST.>>AND THAT IS, OF COURSE A LINE THAT WE’VE HEARD HIS COMPETITORS HERE REPEATING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. PETE BUTTIGIEG HITTING HIM ON THIS. IT’S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. WHAT’S INTERESTING, ON THE TRAIL, YOU’VE HEARD BERNIE SANDERS REALLY KIND OF MOVING AWAY FROM ATTACKING HIS OPPONENTS. AIMING HIS FIRE DIRECTLY AT DONALD TRUMP. SOMEONE CAN GO ON AND ACTUALLY UNITE HIM.>>OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT THERE IS REAL CONCERN AMONG ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRATS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT BERNIE SANDERS CAN DO THAT. HIS PROPOSALS WOULD CHANGE GOVERNMENT TOO SIGNIFICANTLY FOR HIM TO BE — DEMOCRATS BEHIND HIM. IF THAT WERE THE CASE, HE WOULD BE DOING WELL IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE.>>MARY BRUCE, THANK YOU. ELIZABETH WARREN HAS TAKEN THE STAGE. LET’S LISTEN IN AT HER HEADQUARTERS.>>. >>>IT WAS NEF MY PLAN TO RUN FOR OFFICE OF ANY KIND. >>WE’RE GLAD YOU DID. >>NOT MY PLAN. I HAVE BEEN IN THIS FIGHT FOR WORKING FAMILIES FOR DECADES. I STOPPED CREDIT CARD COMPANIES AS THEY — FOUGHT BANKING REGULATORS TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE DURING THE FINANCIAL CRASH. I FOUGHT A FEDERAL AGENCY TO STOP CONSUMERS — [ INAUDIBLE ]>>>I GOT IN THIS FIGHT, I RAN FOR OFFICE BECAUSE I SAW THAT FAMILIES WERE BEING SQUEEZED HARDER THAN EVER AND TOO MANY POLITICIANS WERE NOT GETTING ENOUGH DONE. >>I’M HERE TO GET BIG THINGS DONE.>>>HERE’S THE THING ABOUT POLITICIANS. WHETHER THEY’RE OFFERING VAGUE PLATITUDES OR POWERFUL RHETORIC, THEY WILL ULTIMATELY FACE THE SAME TEST. ACTUALLY GETTING ANYTHING DONE IN A WASHINGTON — >>THAT WAS AN EARLY SPEECH TONIGHT. MAYBE COME OUT EARLY SO YOU DON’T HAVE TO — >>I THINK SHE’S TRYING TO GET HER MESSAGE OUT. ONE OF THE THINGS SHE LEARNED FROM IOWA, THE PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT EARLY GOT A LIFT OUT OF IT. I’M SURE SHE’S WORRIED BECAUSE THE NUMBERS COME IN AND SUPPORTERS JUST SEE THE NUMBERS THAT SHE’S AT 9% OR 10% NOW IN THIS. I THINK THERE’S CONCERN AMONG SUPPORTERS AND A REAL CONCERN AMONG THE PEOPLE THAT WRITE THE CHECKS AS THEY WATCH IT. DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE UP FROM HERE.>>IF YOU LISTEN TO THE PRESIDENT STATE OF THE UNION LAST WEEK, HE’S READY TO RUN AGAINST BERNIE SANDERS.>>I THINK HE’S READY TO RUN AGAINST SANDERS. I THINK IT’S SHIFTED OVER TIME. THE PRESIDENT IS KIND OF AN OPEN BOOK ON HIS TWITTER FEED ABOUT WHO HE’S CONCERNED ABOUT.>>MIKE BLOOMBERG MADE IT TO THE FEED. EITHER HE’S CONCERNED ABOUT YOU OR HE SEES A VULNERABILITY AND WANTS TO TRY TO KILL YOU. ONE OR THE OTHER. I THINK THAT WITH BLOOMBERG — >>THERE WAS MORE STRATEGY IN THE STATE OF THE UNION. WE HEARD SOCIALISM QUITE A FEW TIMES IN THE STATE OF THE UNION.>>MEDICARE FOR ALL AND OTHER THINGS. NO MATTER WHO WINS, HE’S GOING TO TRY TO TAG THAT PERSON WITH THAT MONIKER. SANDERS — HE’S SELF-DESCRIBED. WITH OTHERS, HE’LL TRY TO DO THE SAME THING. LET ME TAKE A QUICK SECOND TO MAKE A CASE FOR BIDEN. LET’S FAST FORWARD TO SOUTH CAROLINA WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY WHERE HE’S PUTTING THE CHIPS FORWARD ON THE TABLE. IF JOE BIDEN WINS SOUTH CAROLINA, HE’S GOING TO BE THE COMEBACK KID. EVERYONE IS GOING TO SAY, GOSH, HE WAS DEAD, HE HAD NO MONEY, FOURTH, FIFTH, GOD KNOWS WHAT HE’LL DO. >>ANY WIN AT THAT POINT?>>I THINK ANY WIN AT THAT POINT. I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE WRITING TOMORROW HE SHOULD GET OUT. DONORS WILL BE SAYING, MAYBE THIS ISN’T MEANT TO BE. GO OUT GRACEFULLY MAYBE. BIDEN IS PUTTING IT ALL ON SOUTH CAROLINA. THE GREAT THING ABOUT POLITICS, IF HE WINS, HE’LL BE RES RECOLLECTSED. NOW FOR HOW LONG? WILL HE HAD HAVE ENOUGH GOES FOR 14 STATES NEXT WEEK? WHO KNOWS?>>OUR COVERAGE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY WILL CONTINUE ON ABC NEWS LIVE. WE KNOW BERNIE SANDERS IS LEADING. ELIZABETH WARREN AND JOE BIDEN FURTHER BEHIND. I WANT TO TAKE IT BACK TO TOM LLAMAS UP IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. POLLS SHOWING BERNIE SANDERS THE CLEAR FRONT-RUNNER. LOOKING TO RECHARGE THEIR CAMPAIGN.>>TO DREAM BIG. FIGHT HARD AND TO WIN.>>AMY KLOBUCHAR SURGING AFTER THE ABC NEWS DEBATE.>>LET’S SURPRISE THE NATION. LET’S GET THIS DONE.>>WILL THE NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS KEEP HER CAMPAIGN ALIVE?>>>CROWDS GROWING FOR MAYOR PETE. >>I DON’T HAVE 40 BILLIONAIRES CONTRIBUTING TO MY CAMPAIGN.>>SOMEONE NEVER HELD A HIGHER OFFICE THAN MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA. >>LIVE FROM MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE, TOM LLAMAS.>>GOOD EVENING. GOING TO BE A BIG NIGHT FOR POLITICS RIGHT NOW. WE’RE ALL WATCHING THE RETURNS COME IN. THE ROAD TO THE WHITE HOUSE GOES THROUGH THE GRANITE STATE TONIGHT. WILL A FRONT-RUNNER EMERGE AND HOW MANY CAN HOLD ON WITHOUT A STRONG SHOWING HERE? LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THE VOTE COMING IN. 23% OF THE EXPECTED VOTE. THIS IS WHAT’S BEING REPORTED SO FAR. SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS IN THE LEAD WITH 28%. MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG WITH 23%. OF COURSE, THERE’S SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR 20%. AMY KLOBUCHAR HOPING TO KEEP A — OFF THE POSITIVE DEBATE PERFORMANCE AND CUT THROUGH THE CROWDED FIELD. A BOOST. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY HER HOME TURF BUT VYING FOR FOURTH PLACE WITH FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. HE MADE AN EARLY EXIT TO SOUTH CAROLINA. THAT PRIMARY MORE THAN TWO WEEKS AGO. WORD THAT BUSINESSMAN ANDREW YANG IS CALLING IT QUITS. HIS BID FOR THE WHITE HOUSE ENDING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. MORE ON THAT IN A MOMENT. IF ALL OF THIS DOESN’T CONVINCE YOU HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR THE RACE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE, CONSIDER THIS. NO CANDIDATE FINISHED BELOW THE TOP TWO AND WON THE WHITE HOUSE.>>OUR POLITICAL TEAM IS HERE WITH THE CAMPAIGN AS THE VOTES KEEP COMING IN. WE HAVE THE BEST MINDS IN POLITICS JOINING US IN MANCHESTER. HEIDI HEITKAMP AND ALEX — EDITOR IN CHIEF NATE SILVER AND RICK CLINE WITH ALL OF OUR CORRESPONDENTS. WE START WITH — AT THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN TONIGHT. THE FIRST QUESTION TO YOU, WHAT’S THE ENERGY LIKE TONIGHT AND ARE THEY WATCHING THE RETURNS COMING IN? YOU WERE TELLING ME SENATOR SANDERS LOWERED THE BAR FOR EXPECTATIONS. HE HAD A BIG WIN A YEAR AGO.>>TOM, THAT’S RIGHT. THEY WERE SAYING THAT THEY EXPECT IT TO BE A CLOSE RACE TONIGHT. NO MATTER WHAT. THEY WERE NOT EXPECTING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO FOUR YEARS WG WHEN HE BEAT HILLARY CLINTON IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. THAT SAID, THEY ARE FEELING REALLY GOOD. IN FACT, WE HEARD FROM ONE OF THE ADVISERS IN THE SO-CALLED WAR ROOM WITH THE SENATOR SANDERS TONIGHT WATCHING THE RESULTS COME IN. THEY FEEL GREAT ABOUT WHAT THEY’RE SEEING SO FAR. THEY KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG CAMPAIGN AHEAD. AGAIN, THEY CONTRIBUTE MOST OF THIS TO THE GROUND GAME. THE MOBILIZATION, ALL OF THE WORK THAT THE VOLUNTEERS HAVE BEEN DOING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. KNOCKING ON MORE THAN 700,000 DOORS. FOR A CAMPAIGN THAT HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT TAME BETWEEN THE CANDIDATES, THESE PAST COUPLE WEEKS HAVE HEATED UP. IT’S GOTTEN NASTY. BERNIE SANDERS WAS TAKING HEAT FROM ALL DIRECTIONS. HE HAD MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG GOING AFTER HIM IN A HUGE VARIETY OF THINGS. YOU’RE LEAVING PEOPLE OUT. QUESTIONING WHETHER HIS POLICIES COULD ACTUALLY BE PAID FOR, THEN YOU HAD JOE BIDEN ALSO ATTACKING HIM AND THE PRESIDENT. I’LL TELL YOU, I WAS AT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S RALLY LAST NIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND THE PRESIDENT TALKED ABOUT THE SOCIALIST AGENDA FOR THE DEMOCRATS REALLY TRYING TO BOX IN ALL THE CANDIDATES INTO THAT. SO WE’VE SEEN A NUMBER OF VOTERS AS WELL THAT WE’VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH ADDRESS THAT AS WELL. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE’S SO MUCH SUPPORT FOR BERNIE SANDERS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC. THEY LIKE THE MOBILIZATION OF THE CAMPAIGN HERE. THEY’RE ALSO SHOWING THAT THEY CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME. THEY’RE PLANNING FOR THE NEXT BIG CONTEST AND IN FACT, BERNIE SANDERS AT THE END OF THIS WEEK ON FRIDAY, HE’S GOING TO NORTH CAROLINA. THEN HE’S GOING TO TEXAS AND ON SATURDAY, HE’S GOING TO NEVADA. SO THEY’RE ALREADY LOOKING AHEAD TO THE NEXT CONTEST AND SUPER TUESDAY. THEY’RE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON TELEVISION AND DIGITAL ADS THERE. THEY’RE IN IT FOR A FIGHT. I JUST SPOKE WITH A CAMPAIGN ADVISER A SHORT TIME AGO. HE SAID EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE LEADING AND EVEN IF THEY GOT A WIN HERE AND WERE CONSIDERED SO-CALLED FRONTRUNNERS, THEY CONSIDERED THEMSELVES THE UNDERDOG IN THIS NO MATTER WHAT BECAUSE BERNIE SANDERS GETS HEAT FROM ALL SIDES OF THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT, WILL WHETHER DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICANS. TOM?>>ALL RIGHT. WHIT JOHNSON AT THE SENATOR SANDERS WATCH PARTY TONIGHT. WE’LL WAIT AND SEE WHAT SENATOR SANDERS HAS TO SAY. FROM THE RETURNS COMING IN, SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR IS DOING WELL AT THE FRONT PART OF THIS NIGHT. LET’S GO TO RACHEL SCOTT IN CONCORD, NEW HAMPSHIRE AT THE SENATOR KLOBUCHAR WATCH PARTY. SHE HAD HAD THAT DEBATE PERFORMANCE. SHE GOT POSITIVE REST. LOUIS FOR IT. SHE HAD AN — >>SHE WANTS TO CONNECT WITH VOTERS ONE-ON-ONE HERE. SHE KNOWS SHE HAS TO MAKE UP FOR LOST TIME THAT SHE WAS PULLED AWAY FROM THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL FOR THE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL. THISES A STATE WITH THE POWER TO SURPRISE OR DISAPPOINT. SHE’S HOPING TO BE THE SURPRISE. YOU’RE RIGHT. SHE’S TRYING TO SEIZE ON THAT DEBATE PERFORMANCE. HER CAMPAIGN THINKS IT WAS STRONG. VOTERS TELL US, THEY LIKED WHAT THEY SAW AS WELL. FOR CAMPAIGN — CAMPAIGN RAISED MORE THAN $3 MILLION. SHE HAD 1,000 AT ONE EE VEBTS, 700 AT THE NEXT. THE LARGEST SHOW OF SUPPORT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE THAT SHE’S SEEN IN THE CAMPAIGN SO FAR. HER CAMPAIGN TONIGHT IS LOOKING TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT. ONE THING TO NOTE IS THE GROUND GAME. SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR HAS ONE OF THE — SIX CAMPAIGN OFFICES, 30 PAID STAFFERS. COMPARE THAT TO SOMEONE LIKE BERNIE SANDERS WHO HAS 131 PAID STAFFERS HERE. 17 FIELD OFFICES. IT IS REMARKABLE TO SEE HER GAINING MOMENTUM HERE AND A LOT OF THAT COMES OFF OF THAT DEBATE, TOM.>>>YEAH. RACHEL, SOMETHING ABOUT THE AGE OF VOTERS. WHAT WE KNOW FROM THE EXIT POLLS ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING SENATOR KLOBUCHAR TONIGHT.>>WE’RE SEEING THAT SHE’S DOING WELL, TOM WITH OLDER VOTERS. IF YOU REMEMBER FROM 2016, EXIT POLLS, OLDER VOTERS MADE UP 60% OF THE VOTE. 45 AND OLDER. 60% OF THE VOTE BACK IN 2016. SO AS I HAD BEEN CRISSCROSSING THE STATE AND TALKING TO A LOT OF VOTERS, THEY DIDN’T HAVE HER AT THE TOP OF THE LIST PRIOR TO THIS DEBATE. THEY WENT DOWN THEIR LIST, TRYING TO WHITTLE DOWN THE FIELD AND GO HERE OR THERE. THEY SAID THEY LIKE WHAT THEY SAW. IT CREATED A SPARK. THEY CAME OUT, TURNED OUT FOR HER EVENTS THIS WEEKEND AND THEY LIKED WHAT THEY HEARD. PRACTICAL CANDIDATE AND TRYING TO WEDGE HERSELF BETWEEN FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG. HE’S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE WHEN IT COMES TO AID BETWEEN THE TWO CANDIDATES. SHE HAS HIT MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG FOR NOT HAVING ENOUGH EXPERIENCE.>>RACHEL SCOTT FOR US TONIGHT AT THE SENATOR KLOBUCHAR WATCH PARTY. WE’LL SEE HOW IT ENDED UP. WE’LL BRING IN RICK CLINE. IF WE COULD PUT THE RETURNS COMING UP SO FAR, WE HAVE FIRST PLACE, SENATOR SANDERS EARLY IN THE NIGHT. MAYOR PETE AND SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, STILL EARLY, WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU SO FAR?>>AMY KLOBUCHAR IS HAVING A HUGE NIGHT. SHE WAS IN THE LOW TO MIDDLE SINGLE DIGITS. SHE HAS THE DEBATE ON FRIDAY NIGHT. HE CAME OUT OF IOWA VERY STRONG. IF HE WALKS AWAY WITH SOMETHING AROUND 20% OF THE VOTE, ESSENTIALLY TYING PETE BUTTIGIEG, THAT’S A VERY BIG DEAL. OF COURSE, THE COLLAPSE OF JOE BIDEN IS A BIG STORY AND ELIZABETH WARREN FROM A NEIGHBORING STATE, BOTH OF THOSE FOLKS RIGHT NOW, TOM, IN DANGER OF NOT GETTING A SINGLE DELEGATE OUT OF THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. >>THIS STAT HERE, THE INDEPENDENTS, 47% VOTING TODAY. NOT THE RECORD BUT HIGHER THAN FOUR YEARS AGO. BERNIE SANDERS GOT A MAJORITY OF THOSE. 70%. OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS, IT SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE WERE SORT OF SHOPPING AROUND AND SEEING WHO ELSE WAS OUT THERE.>>TWO THINGS ON THIS. ONE WAS INDEPENDENT DOESN’T NECESSARILY MEAN MODERATE. A LOT OF THE INDEPENDENTS MIGHT BE BERNIE DEMOCRATS. THEY DON’T LIKE TO CALL THEMSELVES THAT. THERE WAS NO ACTION ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE. PRESIDENT TRUMP — DEMOCRATS NEED INDEPENDENTS TO WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION. NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A BATTLEGROUND STATE. DONALD TRUMP WAS HERE THE OTHER NIGHT MAKING A STRONG FIGHT TO LOCK THE STATE DOWN IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. THEY NEED TO DRAW IN BIG NUMBERS. WE’RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE TURNOUT NUMBERS FOR CLUES. THE DEMOCRATS I TALKED TO, VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH FLAT TURNOUT IN IOWA. THEY’RE HOPING FOR A BOOST IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW FOR THE ENERGY AND ENTHUSIASM AND THE MONEY DUMPED INTO THE PRIMARY. >>I’M GOING TO NATE SILVER IN A MOMENT. THERE ARE SORT OF TWO MATCHES HERE, THERE’S WHO WINS THE PRIMARY AND THE EXPECTATIONS GAME. THAT’S WHERE, IF SENATOR KLOBUCHAR STAYS ON TOP, THAT COULD BE GOOD FOR — IT’S ALSO GOOD FOR MAYOR PETE. FIRST PLACE, SECOND PLACE. THE MOMENTUM GOING FROM SOUTH CAROLINA TO NEVADA. >>THE TWO FOLKS WHO REPRESENT THE MORE MODERATE PART OF THE PARTY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE VOTE SHARES, YOU ADD THEM TOGETHER, THAT’S A FORMIDABLE BLOCK.>>VOTERS GO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. THERE’S A LOT OF VOTERS THAT ARE RESISTING THE IDEA OF BERNIE SANDERS. MODERATES ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM IT. D. IT DOES SUGGEST THIS IS IN THE ROLLOUT. I THINK THE TWO STATES HAVE SHOWN US WE’RE LIKELY TO HAVE AN EXTENDED FIGHT. >>WE’RE SEEING EARLY DATA COME IN SO FAR. WE HAVE EARLY RESULTS. ANYTHING STAND OUT TO YOU SO FAR TONIGHT?>>I FEEL WE’RE NOT TALKING ENOUGH ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS. THE POLLS GOING IN. MIGHT GO 1 NAFR OR TWO. LOOK, IT IS RIGHT THAT THERE’S A MODERATE CONSTITUENCY. WE HAVE A LIBERAL ELECTORATE. IN FACT, YOU’RE INTRODUCING A NEW CHARACTER, AMY KLOBUCHAR INTO THE RACE TONIGHT. A FOUR-WAY SPLIT.>>WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE SHAPING UP IF I’M BERNIE. NOT 32 OR 33. BUT SOMETIMES YOU WIN EASILY. — SO FAR, PRETTY SOON IF OWE [ INAUDIBLE ] AS FAR AS THE INDEPENDENTS, DECIDING LATE. 50% DECIDING AND VOTING — WHO DO YOU THINK THE VOTERS VOTE FOR. >>THAT WAS BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR. SANDERS DOES NOT DO WELL WITH LATE DECIDERS. EITHER THEY’RE ALL IN FOR HIM OR NEVER WILL BE. THIS CAMPAIGN HAS THINGS TO WORK ON. THEY HAVE A LOT OF RUNWAY NOW BECAUSE IT’S A MESS BEHIND IT. WE WENT TO THIS RALLY LAST NIGHT AT DURHAM. PREACHING TO THE CHOIR AND PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. IT’S IMPRESSIVE ORGANIZATIONALLY. HE MIGHT HAVE TO PIVOT AND OPEN THE TENT A LITTLE WIDER TO DRAW THE CIRCLE A LITTLE BIGGER. HE’LL GET BY WITH 27 OR 28%. TACTICALLY SPEAKING, IT’S SHAPING UP WITH NO OBVIOUS ALTERNATIVE TO HIM AMONG THE MODERATES. >>WE HAD ONE MAJOR HEADLINE. ANDREW YANG, THE ENTREPRENEUR DROPPING OUT. LET’S GO TO HIS WATCH PARTY. LET’S LISTEN IN. >>A MAILING LIST, OVER 400,000 DONORS. WE’RE ONE OF THE MOST POTENT POLITICAL FORCES IN THE COUNTRY. WE CAN DO ANYTHING FROM INFLUENCING CONGRESSIONAL RACES. I COULD RUN FOR OFFICE AGAIN. WE’VE ALREADY MOVED THE NEEDLE SIGNIFICANTLY IN TERMS OF PEOPLE’S ENTHUSIASM FOR UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME. THE FLAGSHIP PROPOSAL. WE HAVE TO KEEP MOVING THE COUNTRY IN THAT DIRECTION AND EVENTUALLY PASS IT. THERE ARE MANY THINGS WE CAN DO. [ INAUDIBLE ] [ INAUDIBLE QUESTION ].>>IF SOMEONE WANTS TO LEARN APPROXIMATE THE IDEAS OF THIS CAMPAIGN, LIKE THE FOURTH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, IN FACT — >>IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, DO A ONE-ON-ONE WITH HIM.>>RICK, THE NEWS ANDREW YANG DROPPING OUT, HE DID SORT OF HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SPARK. HE SURVIVED THIS LONG WITH BETTER KNOWN CANDIDATES DROPPED OUT OF THE RACE, INCLUDING ELECTED SENATORS. HE HAD A GREAT DIGITAL PRESENCE, DIGITAL CAMPAIGN. WHERE DID THE VOTERS GO?>>CABINET MEMBERS. HE OUT LASTED. YANG WAS A PHENOM. ONE OF THE TRUE SURPRISES OF THIS WHOLE PRIMARY SEASON. WHAT A ROCKET RIDE HE WAS ON. HE BROUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE INTO THE PARTY THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE. YANG EXPRESSED AN AFFINITY FOR BERNIE SANDERS. I TALKED TO JOE BIDEN ONCE. HE LIKES ANDREW YANG QUITE A LOT. THE IDEAS AS THEY’RE INCORPORATED, THERE’S GOT TO BE A CONCERN THAT THOSE FOLKS WERE NOT INVOLVED IN POLITICS BEFORE. YOU GOT THEM OFF THE SIDELINES. ENERGIZED BY THIS UNIQUE CHARACTER WHO HAD A FUNKY IDEA ABOUT A THOUSAND BUCKS A MONTH.>>DEMOCRATS NEED ALL OF THOSE FOLKS AND MANY MORE. THE YANG ATTRACTION TO HIM IS THE POOL OF TALENT — THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS AND WEEKS. THERE ARE CAMPAIGNS THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM THAT SAVVY MARKETING THAT HE USED ONLINE AND SOCIAL MEDIA.>>LOOK FOR THOSE THINGS TO POP UP IN A CAMPAIGN NEAR YOU. ANDREW YANG INTRODUCED HIMSELF TO ME A YEAR AGO. WANTS TO EXPLAIN HIS CAMPAIGN.>>TO SEE WHAT HE ACHIEVED IN THIS, TO BRING A BRAND NEW IDEA INTO THE CONVERSATION IS REALLY SOMETHING. HE WAS ONE OF SEVEN FOLKS ON THAT PRIMARY DEBATE THAT WE HOSTED ON FRIDAY NIGHT. THAT’S AN INCREDIBLE THING. I THINK THOSE FOLKS — A LOT OF THE FOLKS SHOWING UP AT YANG RALLIES IN IOWA OR NEW HAMPSHIRE, THOSE PEOPLE, IF THEY’RE RIGHT, YOU GOT THE RIGHT IDEAS, YOU CAN BRING THEM INTO A FOLD.>>HE SAID BEFORE, YOU GO TO BERNIE, WALKED AWAY.>>I WANT TO BRING IN SENATOR HEIDI HEITKAMP AND CASTELLANOS. WHAT IT’S LOOKING LIKE EARLY IN THE NIGHT RIGHT NOW, WITH THE TOP THREE CANDIDATES AND WE’LL TALK ABOUT SENATOR WARREN AND JOE BIDEN AFTER THAT. MAYOR PETE AT 23. THIS IS WITH 32% OF THE VOTE IN RIGHT NOW. SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR WITH 20%. SHE MADE THE STORY OF THE NIGHT. CAN SOMEONE LIKE AMY KLOBUCHAR WITH THE CALENDAR LOOKING FORWARD, CAN SHE SURVIVE THROUGH NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA?>>ONLY IF HE CAN RAISE ENOUGH MONEY TO COMPETE. SUPER TUESDAY MEANS ADVERTISING. YOU CAN’T DO THE RETAIL POLITICS THAT YOU CAN DO IN IOWA ABDOMINAL SHIR AND COME OUT WITH — YOU HAVE TO HAVE MONEY. THE IMPORTANT MESSAGE IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO DRIVE MONEY IN HER DIRECTION. NOW, I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH ELIZABETH WARREN. I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH BERNIE. BUT NOBODY IS GETTING OUT. WHAT’S INTERESTING ABOUT THESE. I’VE BEEN DOING QUICK MATH. I’M NOT ALWAYS GOOD AT MATH. UNLIKE ANDREW YANG. I NEED A PEN, MAYBE THAT WILL HELP. 90% OF THE VOTERS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SUPPORTED THESE FIVE CANDIDATES. THAT MEANS ALL OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES, MICHAEL BENNETT JUST DROPPED OUT. THERE’S REALLY NOTHING TO RECOMMEND TULSA I GABBARD. I THINK WE HAVE NARROWED THE FIELD TONIGHT WITH 90% OF THE VOTERS SUPPORTING THE TOP FIVE HERE.>>THE RACE HAS TAKEN A TURN. BUT IT STILL LOOKS LIKE THERE’S A LOT OF VOTE TO GET OUT. WE’LL SEE HOW IT ENDS UP. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOP THREE, THERE’S A CLEAR FRONT-RUNNER AT THIS PART OF THE NIGHT. THEY’RE NOT THAT FAR APART. YOU’RE GETTING CROWDING AMONG THE FRONTRUNNERS. >>THERE IS SOME SEPARATION TONIGHT. I THINK BERNIE SANDERS CLEARLY HAS STAKED OUT A LANE. HE’S WON TWO PRIMARIES NOW IN THAT LANE. HE’S THE LEADER OF THE OCCASIONAL CORTEZ — OCASIO-CORTEZ OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. WHAT’S NOT SETTLED IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. WHO IS THE LEADER OF THAT. IF JOE BIDEN DISAPPEARS THIS EVENING. IF THIS IS THE END OF A LONG AND DISTINGUISHED CAREER OF PUBLIC SERVICE FOR JOE BIDEN, WHO FILLS THE BIDEN VACUUM? WELL, THAT’S UP IN THE AIR. EVEN MORE TONIGHT THAN IT WAS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE EVENING. BECAUSE AMY KLOBUCHAR IS NOW CONTENDER AND BY THE WAY, EVEN UNTIL SHE GETS MONEY, SHE’S GOING TO GET THE RED HOT MEDIA SPOTLIGHT IN A WAY — IT’S GOING TO BE WORTH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS — MAYBE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. HOW ABOUT THAT. BILLIONS, HUGE. SO YES, SHOOEGS SHE’S GOING TO GET A SHOT HERE. MIKE BLOOMBERG IS HOVERING LIKE A GHOST. WHAT THAT HASN’T BEEN RESOLVED, THAT DOES MEAN A LONGER PROCESS.>>THINK YOU’LL — >>WE’VE HAD VERY FEW AFRICAN AMERICANS WEIGH IN.>>WHITEST STATE IN THE UNION. WE DON’T KNOW WHETHER BIDEN IS INTACT UNTIL WE SEE POLLING FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. THERE IS NATIONAL POLLING SHOWING THAT THE BLOCK VOTE IS MORE PROGRESSIVE. THAT IS A VALID CASE TO MAKE. WE OUGHT TO LET ALL FOUR OF THE FIRST FOUR STATES VOTE. BUT IT COULD BE VERY REGIONALLY DRIVEN. >>ALL RIGHT. LET’S GO TO JOHN KARL OUR CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, HE’S AT THE MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG EVENT. I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO MAYOR PETE ABOUT A VARIETY OF ISSUES. YOU GOT TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT MICHAEL BLOOMBERG.>>IT’S VERY LOUD IN HERE. CAN YOU SAY AGAIN. I DIDN’T HEAR THE LAST PART OF THE QUESTION. >>NO WORRIES. YOU GOT TO TALK TO MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG ON A VARIETY OF ISSUES, INCLUDING ABOUT MICHAEL BLOOMBERG.>>YEAH. I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING I TALKED TO MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG A FEW HOURS AGO. HE REALLY WENT AFTER BLOOMBERG ON THE ISSUE OF THE STOP AND FRISK POLICY, THE AUDIOTAPES THAT CAME OUT AND SAID, YOU DON’T XEROX PEOPLE. IT WAS A QUOTE. A QUOTE FROM BLOOMBERG. THIS IS THE FASCINATING NIGHT HERE. YOU SAY MAYOR BUTTIGIEG TOLD ME THAT HE NEEDED A BIG NIGHT HERE. HE THOUGHT HE ABSOLUTELY WAS COMPETING TO WIN. SO HE PROBABLY DOESN’T WIN HERE, AT LEAST IT DOESN’T LOOK THAT WAY NOW. THEY’RE STILL IN THE FIGHT. BUT IT’S CERTAINLY A BIG NIGHT. A BIG NIGHT WHEN YOU CONSIDER JUST HOW FAR HE HAS COME IN THIS CAMPAIGN. I MEAN, THIS IS THE MAYOR OF A SMALL CITY IN INDIANA WHO NOBODY PAID ANY ATTENTION TO WHEN HE GOT INTO THIS RACE, WAS CONSIDERED THE LONGEST OF LONG SHOTS, STRONG SHOWING IN IOWA. NOW A VERY STRONG SHOWING HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXIT POLLS, TOM, THE INTERESTING THING IS JUST HOW MUCH HE SHARES WITH AMY KLOBUCHAR. THEY BOTH DID VERY WELL WITH VOTERS. HE SAID IT WAS TIME TO UNITE THE COUNTRY. THAT’S A CONTRAST BETWEEN N. THAT AND THOSE SUPPORTING BERNIE SANDERS. SOMEBODY THEY BELIEVE CAN BRING REAL CHANGE. THE PROGRESSIVE WING OF THE PARTY THAT WANTS A PROGRESSIVE REVOLUTION IN THE COUNTRY. AMY KLOBUCHAR AND PETE BUTTIGIEG. NOW WE’LL SEE BEYOND HERE, PERHAPS MAYOR BLOOMBERG WILL BE COMPETING FOR THAT MORE MODERATE, MAINSTREAM ESTABLISHMENT WING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.>>YOU KNOW, WHAT’S INTERESTING IS THAT MAYOR PETE, HE GETS THAT BUMP COMING OUT OF IOWA. HE’S ESSENTIALLY A PROGRESSIVE BUT — HE WAS ATTACKED FROM EVERY SIDE OVER THE LAST WEEK AND EVEN AT THE DEBATE. HE MAY STILL COME OUT IN SECOND PLACE, WHICH WOULD BE A STRONG SHOWING GOING INTO SOUTH CAROLINA AND NEVADA. >>YEAH. IT’S REALLY SOMETHING ELSE. THE QUESTION IS DOES THIS CARRY OVER TO NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. OBVIOUSLY, WE’RE GOING TO A MORE DIVERSE STATE. TO CHALLENGE KLOBUCHAR AND BUTTIGIEG. CAN THEY WIN NOW AS WE GET BEYOND THE PREDOMINANTLY WHITE STATES. CAN THEY WIN IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND NEVADA. WHAT IS THE BLOOMBERG FACTOR? WE SAW BLOOMBERG DO THAT LITTLE BIT OF A STUNT OVERNIGHT. BY CALLING AND LOBBYING THE FIVE VOTERS IN DIXVILLE NOTCH. THE ONLY EFFORT HE PUT INTO THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE AND GOT FREE P.R. AS A RESULT OF THAT. NOW YOU’RE GOING INTO STATES WHERE BLOOMBERG HAS POURED A LOT OF MONEY INTO. BEYOND NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA, YOU KNOW, THOSE MASSIVE SUPER TUESDAY STATES JUST A FEW DAYS AFTER SOUTH CAROLINA. AND CANDIDO OWE. >>JOHN KARL FOR US TONIGHT. STAND BY. WE’LL COME BACK TO YOU LATER IN THE NIGHT. I WANT TO GO TO EVA PILGRIM. WE’VE BEEN HITTING EVERYBODY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. EVA PILGRIM IS IN HER HOME STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. EVA, YOU STARTED IN MANCHESTER AND GOT OVER TO SOUTH CAROLINA PRETTY QUICKLY. THAT’S BECAUSE JOE BIDEN IS NOT HERE TONIGHT. WHAT’S GOING ON?>>YEAH, I SAW YOU IN THE HOTEL ON MY WAY HERE TO SOUTH CAROLINA RUSHING TO THE AIRPORT. BIDEN MADE A GAME TIME DECISION, A LAST MINUTE STRATEGY MOVE DECIDING TO COME TO SOUTH CAROLINA. HIS TEAM ALL ALONG HAS SAID THEY DIDN’T THINK THAT HE WOULD WIN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE OR IN IOWA. AND SO TONIGHT THEIR IDEA IS A STRIKE THAT YES MOVE. AS YOU CHOOSE THE NOMINEE BASED ON THE FIRST TWO STATES, YOU RULE OUT THE VOICES OF A LOT OF BLACK AND BROWN VOTERS. BIDEN HAS COME HERE TONIGHT SAYING THAT HE IS HERE LISTENING TO HIM, HE CARES ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. HIS CAMPAIGN HAS ALL ALONG FROM THE VERY BEGINNING SAID THAT HIS ROAD TO THE NOMINATION RUNS THROUGH SOUTH CAROLINA AS THE SUPER TUESDAY STATES, THEY’VE POINTED OUT REPEATEDLY THAT HE DOES BETTER IN MORE DIVERSE STATES. THEY’RE COUNTING ON THE FACT THAT HE WILL PLAY WELL WITH THOSE MINORITY VOTERS AND THOSE MODERATE CAMPS. THAT THE OTHER MODERATE CANDIDATES WILL NOT PLAY AS WELL WITH THOSE MINORITY VOTERS COMING INTO SOUTH CAROLINA AND INTO SUPER TUESDAY, TOM. >>EVA, DID THEY EXPLAIN TO YOU OR IS THERE A REASONING WHY THEY SORT OF — I DON’T WANT TO SAY THEY GAVE UP ON NEW HAMPSHIRE, BUT THE AD SPENDING WASN’T THERE. HIS TIME AFTER THE NEW YEAR IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WASN’T THERE. HE WASN’T DO A LOT OF MEDIA UP UNTIL THE END. DO YOU GET A SENSE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH NEW HAMPSHIRE.>>WESHLGS IT’S A NUMBERS GAME THEY HAVE TO PLAY. THEY’RE FIGURING OUT HOW MUCH DO WE PUT HERE, HOW MUCH DO WE PUT INTO SUPER TUESDAY STATES. HOCH DO WE INVEST IN SOUTH CAROLINA. THAT WAS SORT OF A GAMBLE THINKING THAT HE DOESN’T — NEW HAMPSHIRE DOESN’T LEAN TO HIS STRENGTHS. THEY’RE TRYING TO LOOK AHEAD AT THE PLACE THAT IS THEY THINK LEAN MORE TOWARDS HIS STRENGTHS AND HOPING THAT IF THEY PLAY THAT GAME, THE DELEGATE MASS GAME WILL END UP IN THEIR FAVOR IN THE LONG RUN AS WE GET THROUGH SUPER TUESDAY, TOM. >>ALL RIGHT. EVA PILGRIM. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT STARTS SPEAKING. BRING IN SENATOR HEITKAMP AGAIN. WHAT HAPPENED TO JOE BIDEN?>>IT’S ALWAYS BEEN TOUGH BECAUSE THE FIRST TWO STATES WERE NOT STATES WHERE HE WAS GOING TO DO THAT WELL. THE EXPECTATION WAS HIGH BECAUSE HE CAME INTO IT AT 40, 50%, RIGHT? EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO HE IS. HE THOUGHT HE WOULD HAVE THE OBAMA LEGACY. THAT DIDN’T WORK OUT.>>HE HAD A FOUNDATION ONCE HE STARTED.>>I THINK THAT PEOPLE — HE’S NOT A VERY GOOD DEBATER. IT MADE PEOPLE WONDER. HIS THEORY OF HIS CASE IS ELECTABILITY. PEOPLE SAW HIM ON THE STAGE NOT DOING WELL AND COULDN’T ENVISION WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF HE WERE STANDING NEXT TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THAT’S WHY SOMEBODY LIKE KAMALA HARRIS DID WELL AT THE BEGINNING. SHE WAS SEEN AS FEISTY. THAT’S WHY AMY IS DOING WELL. THEY WANT SOMEBODY WHO CAN STAND ON THAT STAGE WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND SPEAK THEIR MIND AND GET THEIR POINT ACROSS AND WIN THE DEBATE AGAINST THIS PRESIDENT. >>ALICE, IT SEEMS LIKE A MIXED MESSAGE OUT OF CERTAIN DEMOCRATS. NOT JUST SENATOR HEITKAMP. IF THE TOP ISSUE IS ELECTABILITY, THAT’S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. JOE BIDEN’S ARGUMENT WAS ELECTABILITY. WHAT’S HAPPENING?>>JOE BIDEN TURNED OUT TO BE MAKING AN ARGUMENT THAT HE COULDN’T UPHOLD. HE WASN’T THE MOST ELECTABLE CANDIDATE. THAT DOESN’T MAKE HIM THAT. WHEN DID WE FIND OUT? WHEN HE COULDN’T COMPETE WITH OTHER DEMOCRATS IN IOWA. DEMOCRATS ARE NOT GOING TO PUT A CANDIDATE MAYBE WHOSE TIME, WHOSE BEST YEARS ARE BEHIND HIM. WHO CAN’T EXPRESS HIMSELF WITH THE CLARITY OF THOUGHT THAT HE USED TO. THEY’RE NOT GOING TO PUT A WEAKER CANDIDATE IN THE CAGE WITH THE TEN-ARMED EIGHT-LEGGED TIGER THAT IS DONALD TRUMP. THAT’S A TOUGH JOB TO ASK OF ANYBODY. IF YOU LIKE JOE BIDEN, YOU’RE GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET’S GIVE HIM THE GOLD WATCH BUT LET’S GET SOMEBODY WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THIS MOMENT TO BATTLE THAT TOUGH OPPONENT. >>I WANT TO MAKE A POINT ON SOMETHING NATE SAID EARLIER THAT BERNIE SHOULD BE HAPPY TONIGHT. I DON’T THINK BERNIE SHOULD BE HAPPY TONIGHT. WHAT WE’RE SEEING IS THAT HE CONSISTENTLY TAPS OUT AT 28% OF THE DEMOCRATIC ELECTORATE AND THE REST TO SOMEONE ELSE. IF WE WANT TO MAKE A CASE FOR SOMEBODY WHO CAME INTO TONIGHT WITH HIGH VISIBILITY, HE RAN A VERY EFFECTIVE RACE FOUR YEARS AGO AGAINST A KNOWN CANDIDATE AND YOU KNOW, AN ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE. DID MUCH BETTER THAN HE’S DOING TONIGHT. I THINK IF YOU’RE PLAYING THE EXPECTATION GAME, I THINK BERNIE IS PERFORMING BELOW EX PECK TAKES.>>[ OVERLAPPING TALKING ]. >>WITH MONEY ON TOP OF THAT. BERNIE IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. HE’S CONSOLIDATED A BASE WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. EVERYTHING ELSE IS UP FOR GRABS.>>30%. — >>QUICK BREAK. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, WE’LL TALK AND BREAK DOWN THE NUMBERS. MORE RESULTS AS THEY COME IN. WE HAVE THE SPOKESPERSON FOR THE NEW HAMPSHIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. IS NEW HAMPSHIRE GOING MURROW AWARDS. ABC NEWS. AMERICA’S NUMBER ONE NEWS CHOICE.>>>I THINK WE KNOW ENOUGH TO SAY WITH SOME CERTAINTY THAT NEW HAMPSHIRE TONIGHT HAS MADE BILL CLINTON THE COMEBACK KID.>>MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE.>>AN HISTORICAL MOMENT RIGHT THERE, BILL CLINTON ESSENTIALLY DECLARING VICTORY. RICK KLEIN, AS WE SAID EARLIER, THERE’S THE PERSON WHO WINS THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY AND THERE’S THE PERSON WHO WINS THE EXPECTATION GAME. THE LATE PAUL TSONGAS WON THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARIES BUT BILL CLINTON WENT ON TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY.>>BERNIE SANDERS WON THE STATE BY 20-SOMETHING POINTS FOUR YEARS AGO, OF COURSE HE’S GOING TO WIN. AMY KLOBUCHAR, GOING FROM ALMOST NOWHERE TO THE TOP TIER TONIGHT ALONE IS GOING TO MAKE THE STORY LINE. PETE BUTTIGIEG AS WELL, A VERY STRONG LIGHT. KLOBUCHAR LOOKING LIKE SHE’LL BE A SECONDARY HEADLINE AND GETTING A SERIOUS SECOND LOOK AS A RESULT OF WHAT LOOKS LIKE A VERY STRONG CLOSE, PEOPLE WERE IMPRESSED BY HER PERFORMANCE AND IT SEEMS LIKE SHE’S PART OF THE CONVERSATION AGAIN.>>RICK, 38% OF THE EXPECTED VOTE REPORTING, BERNIE SANDERS ON TOP, PETE BUTTIGIEG, THEN AMY KLOBUCHAR. ELIZABETH WARREN IN DOUBLE DIGITS AND JOE BIDEN TRAILING. A LOT OF THE VOTERS SAID ONCE THEY STARTED VOTING, THE DEBATE MATTERED HERE.>>AND WE SAW THAT DIRECTLY, ONE OF THE EXIT POLL QUESTIONS. PEOPLE RESPONDED, THIS IS A REALLY BIG DEAL OF A DEBATE. WE KNEW THAT PEOPLE WERE WATCHING. BUT LOOK AT THIS, WAS IT A FACTOR, WAS IT NOT A FACTOR, SEVEN IN TEN SAYING IT’S A FACTOR. WE COMBINE THAT WITH WHAT WE KNOW, ALMOST HALF THE VOTERS SAY THEY MADE UP THEIR MIND IN RECENT DAYS OR EVEN TODAY. WE KNOW THIS WAS A LOT OF LATE DECIDERS. PEOPLE WERE VOTING TODAY THINKING THE DEBATE AND ABOUT THE NEWS CYCLE THAT FOLLOWED.>>WE HAVEN’T SPOKEN A LOT ABOUT SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN, SHE GOT SOME KNOCKS FOR HER PERFORMANCE AT THE DEBATE. STEPHANIE RAMOS IS AT THE ELIZABETH WARREN WATCH PARTY TONIGHT. ELIZABETH WARREN HAS ALREADY SPOKEN, THE WATCH PARTY IS WRAPPING UP. I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO HER EARLIER TODAY. LET’S LISTEN TO THAT.>>RESULTS ARE STILL COMING IN FROM ACROSS THE STATE BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS CLEAR THAT SENATOR SANDERS AND MAYOR BUTTIGIEG HAD STRONG NIGHTS. I ALSO WANT TO CONGRATULATE MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE AMY KLOBUCHAR FOR SHOWING JUST HOW WRONG THE PUNDITS COULD BE TO COUNT A WOMAN OUT.>>Reporter: YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR DECISION TO GO TO COLLEGE AND YOUR RACE AGAINST SCOTT BROWN. DO YOU FEEL AT THIS STAGE IN THE RACE IT’S GOTTEN MORE PERSONAL FOR YOU?>>IT’S BEEN PERSONAL FOR ME FROM THE BEGINNING. ONE OF THE THINGS I REALIZED IS THAT VOTERS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW NOT JUST THE POLICIES BUT ALSO THE HEART OF THE PERSON THEY’RE GOING TO PICK FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. SO I PUT OUT ALL THE POLICIES, BUT I ALSO PUT MY HEART OUT TO PEOPLE.>>STEPHANIE RAMOS, IT DID GET PERSONAL FOR HER, THE SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS, FROM OKLAHOMA. STEPHANIE, WHERE DOES THE CAMPAIGN GO FROM HERE? I KNOW THEY RELEASED A MEMO. WHAT’S THEIR PLAN LOOKING AT THE STATES GOING DOWN THE CALENDAR NOW?>>Reporter: RIGHT NOW, TOM, THE CAMPAIGN TELLS ME THEY’RE HEADED TO VIRGINIA WHICH IS A SUPER TUESDAY STATE WHICH REALLY SHOWS US THEY’RE NOT SLOWING DOWN, THEY’RE IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL, HER CAMPAIGN SAYING THEY’RE PLAYING THE LONG GAME. AFTER ALL THAT CONFUSION IN IOWA, WITH THE DELAY IN THE VOTE COUNT, SENATOR WARREN AND HER TEAM ARE REALLY HOPING TO BREAK OUT TONIGHT WITH WARREN BEING A SENATOR FROM A NEIGHBORING STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS, HER SUPPORTERS BELIEVED FOR A WHILE THAT WOULD WORK TO HER ADVANTAGE, IT DOESN’T SEEM LIKE IT’S PUTTING HER IN THE TOP THREE. SHE’S STILL ON THE STAGE TAKING SELFIES WITH HER SUPPORTERS, THE LINE WRAPPED AROUND THE ROOM. SHE CONGRATULATED SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS, PETE BUTTIGIEG, AND SENATOR KLOBUCHAR. SHE SAID THE FIGHT ISN’T OVER BUT DID SHARE HER MAIN CONCERN. THIS IS SOMETHING WE HEARD FROM HER LAST NIGHT IN PORTSMOUTH. SHE SAID SHE’S CONCERNED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL BE TORN APART. SHE SAID THIS RACE ISN’T ABOUT EMERGING CANDIDATES BUT IT’S ABOUT EMERGING AS A DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND UNIFYING. THAT’S BEEN HER MESSAGE TO VOTERS ACROSS THE STATE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, THAT SHE IS THE CANDIDATE THAT CAN UNIFY THE PARTY, TOM.>>ALL RIGHT, STEPHANIE RAMOS FOR US. SENATOR WARREN SPEAKING ABOUT 30 MINUTES AGO, GUYS. A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 30% REPORTING, THAT’S NEVER A GOOD SIGN. SHE’S CONGRATULATING SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR WHO CAME IN IN THIRD PLACE. WHAT’S GOING ON IN THE WARREN CAMPAIGN, IS THE MESSAGE OF UNITY, IS IT TOO EARLY FOR THAT? SENATOR BOOKER, SENATOR HARRIS TRIED THAT AND IT DIDN’T SEEM TO BE WORKING.>>THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHEN EVERYBODY THOUGHT ELIZABETH WAS EXITING THE STAGE, AND SHE SURGED FORWARD. SHE GOT THE SCRUTINY THAT A TOP RUNNER GETS. AND YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED. DON’T COUNT HER OUT. BUT I THINK THIS ISN’T A GOOD NIGHT. BUT THE ONE THING THAT I THINK YOU NEED TO REALIZE, SHE’S NOT NECESSARILY A NORTHEASTERN CANDIDATE. ELIZABETH HAS A HUGE NATIONAL FOLLOWING, SHE HAS A HUGE FAN BASE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AS A TWO-YEAR SENATOR, SHE HAS 3 MILLION FACEBOOK FOLLOWERS.>>AS SOMEBODY FROM A RED STATE, HOW DO YOU THINK SHE DOES IN SOUTH CAROLINA?>>I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW YOU GET ORGANIZED AND WHETHER SHE CAN MOTIVATE MINORITY VOTERS. THE ONE THING ABOUT SOUTH CAROLINA, YOU CAN KNOCK NEW HAMPSHIRE, NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS THE POTENTIAL OF VOTING FOR A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT, RIGHT?>>IT’S VERY CLOSE FOUR YEARS AGO, YES.>>SOUTH CAROLINA WILL NOT VOTE FOR A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT. IOWA HAS AT LEAST A SMALL PERCENT CHANCE OF VOTING FOR A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT. I WOULD ARGUE THAT VICTORIES IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE ARE PRETTY MEANINGFUL IN TERMS OF A GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT.>>THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO ELIZABETH WARREN TOO. ONE OF THEM IS, SHE TRIED TO APPEAL TO BERNIE’S VOTERS BUT SHE WAS NOT QUITE AS RADICAL AND REVOLUTIONARY AS BERNIE. SHE TRIED TO APPEAL TO, LET’S SAY, MORE MODERATE, CONSERVATIVE-TYPE VOTERS OF BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR. BUT SHE’S NOT QUITE AS MODERATE THERE. AND I THINK SHE MAY HAVE FALLEN BETWEEN THE SAWHORSES. AT THE SAME TIME, SHE TRIED THE UNITY MESSAGE, SHE WAS WAGING CLASS WARFARE. HOW ARE YOU THE UNITY CANDIDATE WHO IS ATTACKING A LOT OF FOLKS IN THIS COUNTRY? I THINK SHE ENDED UP BEING FOR EVERYTHING AND NOTHING.>>I WANT TO READ A LINE THAT SHE DELIVERED THAT STOOD OUT TO ME, SHE SAID THIS I THINK YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE. I CANNOT SAY TO LITTLE GIRLS THAT I QUIT. MY JOB IS TO PERSIST. IT’S A STRONG LINE. SO WHAT HAPPENED? I MEAN, BECAUSE SHE DIDN’T WANT TO GET PERSONAL, USUALLY THAT CAN HELP A POLITICIAN. HAVE PEOPLE TUNED HER OUT?>>I THINK WHAT ALWAYS HAPPENS TO A FRONTRUNNER IS THEY GET CAUTIOUS AND START THINKING ABOUT HOW TO EXPAND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME AND THEY LOSE THE SHINE OF WHAT MAKES THEM UNIQUE. SO AS SHE WAS BECOMING A FRONTRUNNER, I THINK HER IDEA OF EXPANDING AND GOING BEYOND KIND OF THOSE CORE MESSAGES. I THINK YOU SEE HER GOING BACK TO THE CORE MESSAGES, NOT NECESSARILY THE UNITY.>>IT’S A BIT OF BAD LUCK, BERNIE SANDERS HAD NOTHING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS RACE. HE WAS SOCIALIST EMERITUS FROM THE LAST RACE, HE WON THE HEARTS OF ALL THE DEMOCRATS, EVERYBODY WAS FOR MEDICARE FOR ALL IN SOME VERSION, BUT HE WAS THEN. THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN HE GETS OWE CASIO ORTEZ AND THE YOUNGER GENERATION OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE’S THE PIED PIPER OF THE NEW GENERATION. BERNIE WAS RENEWED. AND THAT SUCKED A LOT OF WIND OUT OF ELIZABETH WARREN BECAUSE THAT’S WHERE SHE WAS, SHE WAS BERNIE 2.0, SO BERNIE’S RENEWAL DID A LOT.>>SHE WAS ALREADY TRANSITIONING TO A GENERAL ELECTION, MAYBE TOO EARLY. I THINK THAT’S ALWAYS THE DANGER, WHEN YOU GET TO BE KIND OF A FRONTRUNNER, YOU’RE TOO CAUTIOUS. THAT HE WAS ALWAYS WHAT HAPPENS TO FRONTRUNNERS. AND YOU’VE GOT TO BE — BERNIE’S GOING TO STICK TO HIS CORE MESSAGE BECAUSE HE’S A BELIEVER IN HIS REVOLUTION, HE’S NEVER GOING TO DEVIATE TO IT AND THAT’S GOING TO BE ATTRACTIVE TO 30% OF THE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS, NOT 30% OF THE VOTERS, 30% OF THE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS. AND THERE’S A REAL RISK IN THAT.>>SPEAKING OF EXPANDING, THE LIST OF CANDIDATES IS GOING TO EXPAND SOON. JOINING US LIVE IS SENIOR NATIONAL SPOKESPERSON FOR THE BLOOMBERG CAMPAIGN, SABRINA SINGH, THANKS FOR JOINING US ON “ABC NEWS LIVE.” WE TALKED TO YOU IN ANOTHER ELECTION, THE CANDIDATE YOU WORKED FOR IS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS ONE. I’M WONDERING, IS FORMER MAYOR MIKE BLOOMBERG WATCHING THE RESULTS TONIGHT AND WHO HE IS PULLING FOR?>>THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME ON TONIGHT, IT’S AN EXCITING NIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, OBVIOUSLY WE’RE WATCHING THE RETURNS HERE. ALL OF US, MIKE INCLUDED, ARE WATCHING TO SEE WHO EMERGES AS THE VICTOR OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. WE KNOW THIS RACE FOR US BEGINS ON SUPER TUESDAY AND BEYOND. THESE ARE THE STATES THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE BATTLEGROUND STATES THAT WILL DELIVER WHO WILL BE NOT ONLY THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE BUT WHO CAN DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP IN NOVEMBER. SO WE’RE FOCUSED ON STATES LIKE MICHIGAN, PENNSYLVANIA, CALIFORNIA, TEXAS, ARIZONA, GEORGIA, WISCONSIN. WE HAVE BEEN LAYING THE GROUNDWORK THERE IN THESE LARGE STATES THAT NOT ONLY DELIVER MASSIVE DELEGATES BUT ALSO ARE GOING TO BE CRUCIAL TO DEFEATING TRUMP IN NOVEMBER. WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO WIN BACK THOSE VOTERS IN 2016 THAT DID NOT TURN OUT FOR HILLARY CLINTON AND THOSE VOTERS THAT DID TURN OUT DURING THE 2018 MIDTERMS, WE NEED TO MOTIVATE THEM TO TURN OUT IN THE PRESIDENTIAL AND VOTE FOR MIKE BLOOMBERG.>>TOM STEYER SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND IT’S UNCLEAR HOW MUCH IT HELPED HIM. YOUR BOSS HAS SPENT $300 MILLION. YOU GUYS GOT PROMISING NEWS WITH THAT QUINNIPIAC POLL THAT HAD HIM IN DOUBLE DIGITS. WHAT WAS THAT MOMENT LIKE FOR THE CAMPAIGN?>>WE’RE SO EXCITED. WE JUST GOT OUR THIRD QUALIFYING POLL TODAY TOWARDS THE DEBATES, WE’RE ONE POLL AWAY FROM OFFICIALLY QUALIFYING. AND WE REALLY WANT MIKE’S VOICE TO BE ON THE STAGE. WE WANT AMERICANS TO HEAR FROM HIM, TO HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY, TO HEAR HIS VISION FOR THE COUNTRY. BUT I THINK WHY MIKE IS RESONATING IS BECAUSE HIS MESSAGE TO VOTERS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, DIVERSE VOTERS, IS THAT I CAN BRING THIS COUNTRY TOGETHER, THIS IS SOMEONE THAT RAN THE BIGGEST CITY, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CITIES IN THE COUNTRY, AND HE’S A DOER. THIS IS SOMEONE THAT GETS IT DONE, AND THAT’S ACTUALLY OUR SLOGAN, MIKE WILL GET IT DONE, BECAUSE HE’S SOMEONE, WHETHER IT’S TAKING ON THE NRA AND, YOU KNOW, CREATING ONE OF THE BIGGEST GROUPS IN THE COUNTRY TO END GUN VIOLENCE, HE REDUCED NEW YORK CITY’S CARBON FOOTPRINT MORE THAN TWICE THE NATIONAL AVERAGES. AND THIS IS SOMEONE THAT ACTUALLY GREW THE NEW YORK CITY ECONOMY, BROUGHT BACK CLEAN JOBS, YOU KNOW, MADE IT SO PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY GETTING — FEELING THEIR PAYCHECKS, FEELING THE ECONOMY WORKING FOR THEM. THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT IN THE WHITE HOUSE.>>SABRINA, SPEAKING OF HIS TENURE AS NEW YORK CITY MAYOR, I’M REALLY CONFUSED. SOME AUDIO CAME OUT TODAY FROM MAYOR MICHAEL BLOOMBERG SEEMING TO SIDE WITH STOP AND FRISK, COMMENTS THAT LIKELY OFFENDED MANY IN THE MINORITY COMMUNITIES. HE’S ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH STOP AND FRISK. DOES HE BELIEVE IT WORKS AND DOES HE SUPPORT A DECISION THAT IT WAS USED IN NEW YORK CITY?>>ACTUALLY HE’S REALLY NOT ALL OVER THE PLACE. I WOULD SAY THAT HE APOLOGIZED FOR WHAT STOP AND FRISK DID TO BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES IN NEW YORK. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT HE TAKES OWNERSHIP OVER. HE UNDERSTANDS THE IMPACTS. HE DIDN’T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WERE IMPACTING FAMILIES THEN. I THINK IT TAKES A LEADER TO UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY THE IMPACTS OF A DECISION THAT HE HAS MADE BUT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND APOLOGIZE. BUT LOOK, YOU KNOW — >>BUT SABRINA, I WANT TO STOP YOU THERE, THOUGH, SABRINA, I WAS A LOCAL REPORTER IN NEW YORK CITY WHEN HE WAS MAYOR. THERE WAS A LOT OF REPORTING ABOUT WHAT STOP AND FRISK WAS DOING TO COMMUNITIES, IT WASN’T AFTER THE FACT, IT WAS IN REAL TIME. YOU SAY HE CAME TO UNDERSTAND IT. HE KNEW IT AT THE TIME, IT WAS IN THE NEWSPAPERS, IT WAS ON THE LOCAL NEWS. >>I DON’T ACTUALLY THINK HE UNDERSTOOD THE IMPACT STOP AND FRISK HAD ON FAMILIES ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TAKE A 30,000-FOOT VIEW HERE, STOP AND FRISK WASN’T JUST THE ARREST OF SOMEONE AND PUT THEM IN JAIL. IT’S THE EFFECT ON THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT NEW YORK CITY. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE LESSONS LEARNED, SOMETHING THAT’S CERTAINLY APOLOGIZED FOR. LOOK, TODAY WE WERE MEETING WITH OVER 20 AFRICAN-AMERICAN STATE LEADERS THAT WERE HERE IN OUR HEADQUARTERS AND THEY CAME OUT AND, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF MIKE BUT, YOU KNOW, CALLED ON THE PRESIDENT AND REALLY CALLED HIM OUT FOR CALLING MIKE A RACIST. MIKE IS NOT A RACIST, HE IS SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED IN THE COMMUNITY, HE’S APOLOGIZED FOR MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE, AND I THINK THAT TAKES COURAGE AND THAT IS A LEADER WHO RECOGNIZES THAT LOOK, WE DID NOT DO EVERYTHING RIGHT AT THE TIME AND WE’RE GOING TO GET IT RIGHT FOR THE NEXT TIME.>>SABRINA SINGH, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE TIME WHEN WE CAN REPORT WHEN BLOOMBERG IS ON THE BALLOTS AND HE’S COMPETING WITH ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES. THAT WILL BE ON SUPER SABRINA,. THE SPOKESMAN FOR THE NEW HAMPSHIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, HOW ARE YOU FEELING?>>WE HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT SYSTEM. I WALK IN, MARK THE BALLOT WITH A PEN OR PENCIL, I PUT IT IN THE BOX, SOMEONE COUNTS IT. THAT’S IT. IT’S PRETTY EASY. RESULTS ARE COMING IN WEEKLY, WE’LL CONTINUE TO SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT.>>HOW MUCH PRESSURE WERE YOU UNDER, AFTER IOWA A LOT OF DEMOCRATS, INCLUDING THE DNC CHAIRMAN, BUT ALSO VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF WORKERS.>>WE’VE HAD THE SAME SYSTEM HERE FOR A HUNDRED YEARS. THE SECRETARY OF STATE RUNS ALL OUR ELECTIONS, THREE OR FOUR TIMES A YEAR DEPENDING ON WHAT’S HAPPENING IN THE STATE. AND HONESTLY, I KNOW THE SECRETARY OF STATE, HE’S BEEN DOING THIS LONGER THAN I’VE BEEN ALIVE. SO WE HAVE IT PRETTY DOWN AND HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT INCIDENT FOR ALL THAT TIME. AND SO THINGS HAVE GOT SMOOTHLY IN THE PAST AND THEY WILL TONIGHT.>>TALK TO ME ABOUT TURNOUT. AT FIRST NEW HAMPSHIRE DEMOCRATS WERE SAYING THERE’S GOING TO BE RECORD TURNOUT. THEY SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN IOWA AND DIALED IT BACK A BIT.>>THOSE ARE THE SECRETARY OF STATE’S NUMBERS, I DON’T HAVE A CLUE YET. 2008 WAS AN HISTORIC YEAR, DIFFERENT TYPES OF CANDIDATES WERE IN THE RACE FOR THE FIRST TIME, THE IOWA CAUCUS AND NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY WERE VERY CLOSE IN PROXIMITY TIME-WISE TO EACH OTHER. SO IT WAS A PERFECT STORM OF A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAUSED THAT HUMONGOUS TURNOUT THAT YEAR. BUT WHAT I’M LOOKING AT IS KIND OF THE UNDECLARED VOTERS, RIGHT? THEY COME, THEY CAN COME, VOTE IN OUR PRIMARY, THEY DRAW A DEMOCRATIC BALLOT, THEN WHEN THEY LEAVE THEY CAN CHOOSE TO TURN THEIR REGISTRATION TO UNDECLARED. WE’RE HOPING THEY STICK WITH US. WE HAVE A 10,000 VOTER REGISTRATION DISADVANTAGE, WE’RE HOPING TO FLIP THAT TONIGHT.>>ALL RIGHT, HOLLY, THANK YOU SO MUCH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, THANKS FOR COMING ON “ABC NEWS LIVE.” I KNOW IT’S ONLY TWO STATES SO FAR BUT IOWA THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO GET A HIGHER TURNOUT, THEY DIDN’T. NEW HAMPSHIRE, WE’LL SEE HOW IT TURNS OUT, IT’S STILL VERY EARLY BUT THEY’VE SORT OF LOWERED THE BAR AFTER THAT. DOES IT TELL US SOMETHING ABOUT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, WHETHER DEMOCRATS ARE ACTIVATED AND READY TO GO FOR NOVEMBER?>>I THINK IT DOES TELL YOU, MAYBE DEMOCRATS ARE A BIT EXHAUSTED AFTER THREE YEARS OF LIVING ON THE RAZOR’S EDGE WITH DONALD TRUMP. AND WE’RE NOT SEEING THAT INTENSITY NOW. ONE REASON I THINK AMY KLOBUCHAR HAS EMERGED IS BECAUSE DEMOCRATS LOOKED AT THE ALTERNATIVES AND HAVE FOUND THEM ALL PRETTY GOOD BUT NOT PERFECT, FOUND THEM A LITTLE WANTING, AND THE RACE IS STILL A LITTLE SHAPELESS. IT’S UNUSUAL FOR SOMEONE LIKE KLOBUCHAR, YOU MEET HER IN A DEBATE FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND A FEW DAYS LATER, YOU MARRY HER, AND YOU SAY, THAT’S IT, SHE’S MY CANDIDATE. AND IT WAS OPEN. RIGHT NOW, DEMOCRATS ARE A LITTLE TIRED, THEY’RE EXHAUSTED, I DON’T KNOW THAT THEY THINK THAT THEY’VE FOUND A CANDIDATE YET TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. AND I THINK THAT’S CONTRIBUTING TO THE LOSS OF INTENSITY HERE THAT WE’RE SEEING. LOOK, THEY’RE GOING TO NEED HUGE TURNOUT TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE HIS VOTERS WERE HERE IN LINE AT NOON FOR A 7:00 P.M. RALLY THE OTHER DAY AND THAT LINE STRETCHED FOR A QUARTER MILE.>>WE’LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS. HEIDI, WHAT’S YOUR TAKE SO FAR? SHALL WE NOT READ THE TEA LEAVES, IS IT STILL WAY TO EARLY?>>I DON’T THINK SO. I WOULD BE REALLY CONCERNED AND AM CONCERNED BY THE LOWER VOTER TURNOUT, THE LOWER PARTICIPATION IN IOWA. AND THEN WHAT I THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE A BIG NIGHT HERE. LOOK AT ALL THE MONEY THAT’S BEING SPENT. LOOK AT ALL THE BACKDROP AGAINST A STATE OF THE UNION THAT INFURIATED DEMOCRATS, AGAINST AN IMPEACHMENT WHERE PEOPLE DIDN’T THINK THAT THE PROCESS WAS HANDLED CORRECTLY. BUT YET WE SEE LOWER VOTER TURNOUT. AND I DON’T KNOW IF IT’S A PRODUCT OF JUST ANYONE WILL DO AND WE’RE GOING TO GET FIRED UP AGAIN IN NOVEMBER OR IF IT IS, WE’RE EXHAUSTED, TIRED OF POLITICS, WE JUST WANT TO GO ON VACATION AND NOT THINK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE. I DON’T KNOW. BUT I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE WRONG FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO DISCOUNT THESE NUMBERS AND SAY, OH, WE’RE FINE WITH THE TURNOUT. WE SHOULD BE TURNING OUT MORE VOTERS.>>ON THAT POINT I WANT TO BRING IN ABC ANALYST MATT DOWD, AND YVETTE, ARE DEMOCRATS TRULY MOTIVATED? WE WERE DRIVING DOWN FROM MILFORD TO MANCHESTER, HAD JUST DONE A MAYOR PETE EVENT, GOING TO A BERNIE SANDERS EVENT, THERE WERE DECENT SIZED CROWDS. AS WE HIT MANCHESTER, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS WITH MAGA HATS TAKING OVER DOWNTOWN MANCHESTER. THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AT THAT ONE RALLY WAS LIKELY EQUAL TO ALL THE DEMOCRATIC RALLIES YESTERDAY IN TOTAL. BERNIE HAD A BIG RALLY, DON’T GET ME WRONG, BUT WITH IOWA, WITH NEW HAMPSHIRE LOWERING THE BAR, DOES IT CONCERN YOU AT ALL AS A DEMOCRAT WHO IS IN TOUCH WITH THE PROGRESSIVE WING OF THE PARTY?>>NO, IT’S STILL EARLY, AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THE PRIMARIES, THE CAUCUSES, WILL DRAW OUT YOUR MOST DEVOTED VOTERS. WHAT WE’LL SEE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION WILL BE MUCH BIGGER ESPECIALLY AFTER WE HAVE A NOMINEE. IN OUR LAST ELECTION YOU HAD TWO DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED CANDIDATES, HILLARY CLINTON, BERNIE SANDERS, BOTH KNOWN FACTORS. HERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF CANDIDATES IN THE MIDDLE, PEOPLE ARE STILL FIGURING IT OUT. ONCE YOU HAVE A NOMINEE, YOU’LL SEE A LOT MORE ENERGY ESPECIALLY WITH STATES THAT AREN’T TRADITIONALLY IN THE SPIRIT OF IOWA OR NEW HAMPSHIRE. THEY’LL GET THE CHANCE TO VOTE AND THEY’LL BE HEARD. . >>MATT DOWD, WE’RE GETTING CLOSER TO 40% CALLING IN. 46% OF THE VOTE IN. 23 FOR MAYOR PETE, 20 FOR SENATOR KLOBUCHAR. I’M SORT OF REMINDED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, NOT EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT OF THE REPUBLICANS AND HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP CARVED OUT HIS NICHE, WHETHER IT BE 23% UP TO 40% DEPENDING ON WHICH STATE OF THE COUNTRY HE WAS IN. WHEN I LOOK AT SUPER TUESDAY, I THINK OF A TWO-LANE HIGHWAY, ONE LANE IS FILLED WITH THE MODERATES OR PEOPLE TRYING TO GO AFTER THE MODERATE VOTE, MAYOR PETE, MICHAEL BLOOMBERG, SENATOR KLOBUCHAR, MAYBE JOE BIDEN, MAYBE ELIZABETH WARREN, AND THAT OTHER LANE, IT’S BERNIE SANDERS, AND MAYBE IT’S A HOV LANE BUT HE’S STILL DRIVING BY HIMSELF, AND HE’S ZOOMING PAST THEM.>>THERE’S PARTIAL TRUTH TO THAT. I WOULDN’T PUT ELIZABETH WARREN IN THE MODERATE CAMP, I WOULD PUT HER IN THE MORE LIBERAL OR PROGRESSIVE CAMP IN THIS. IT’S MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CROSS TABS, THE EXIT POLLS IN IOWA AND NATIONAL POLLS, THERE’S MUCH MORE OF A MIX OF VOTING GOING ON. THERE ARE SOME MODERATES VOTING AND INDEPENDENTS VOTING FOR BERNIE SANDERS. THERE ARE SOME LIBERALS VOTING FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG. SO I DON’T FUNDAMENTALLY THINK IT’S JUST ABOUT THAT. THAT’S GOING TO BE A DEBATE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS TO HAVE. IT’S ALSO ABOUT, DO CANDIDATES HAVE A WOMAN AS THEIR LEADERS, DO CANDIDATES WANT, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN PERSON FROM A CERTAIN PART OF THE COUNTRY. I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO SORT THIS OUT. I THINK SOMETIMES US IN THE MEDIA ARE WAY TOO MUCH IN A HURRY TO FORCE THIS RACE TO A QUICK CLOSE AND SAY IT’S ONE AGAINST THE OTHER AND THIS IS THE DYNAMIC OF THE RACE. I THINK THE VOTERS ARE JUST NOW STARTING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY WANT TO DO THIS. THAT’S WHY YOU SAW 50% OF THE PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE DECIDING IN THE LAST THREE DAYS. THEY’RE JUST NOW COMING TO A PLACE WHERE THEY WANT TO BEGIN TO MAKE THAT DECISION. AND KEEP IN MIND, ONLY 150 DELEGATES ARE GOING TO BE PICKED IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY. 1,700 DELEGATES WILL BE PICKED IN THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH. WE’RE SO USED TO, TOM, A PROCESS TO BE LIKE 2016, WHERE IT’S ONE ON ONE AMONG THE DEMOCRATS OR LIKE 2008 WHERE IT QUICKLY BECOMES BARACK OBAMA VERSUS HILLARY CLINTON. AND WE’RE JUST NOT IN THAT SPACE RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT WILL ULTIMATELY BE THREE OR FOUR CANDIDATES THAT ARE GOING TO COMPETE, PROBABLY COME SUPER TUESDAY. AND THEN WE MAY HAVE A THREE OR FOUR-CANDIDATE FIELD FOR A LENGTHY PERIOD OF TIME IN THIS. WE’LL HAVE TO COUNT DELEGATES AND THE MATH WILL HAVE TO WORK THAT WAY. I DON’T THINK IT’S A FIGHT BETWEEN A LIBERAL WING AND A MODERATE WING. DEMOCRATS WILL SORT IT OUT. BUT THERE’S MUCH MORE MIXED VOTING GOING ON RIGHT NOW.>>MATT, I INTERVIEWED A BERNIE SUPPORTER. I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO IT AND GET YOUR REACTION ON THE BACK END. IT WAS ON HOW BERNIE’S MESSAGE WAS AFFECTING THIS VOTER.>>Reporter: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT BERNIE?>>IT’S HARD TO TAKE CARE OF MY FAMILY RIGHT NOW. I LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE’S FIGHTING FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW. ANYTHING WITH A CHILD INVOLVED IS HARD. AND IT’S TWICE AS HARD NOW, YOU KNOW? RIGHT NOW WITH MY EMPLOYER, MY EMPLOYER’S INSURANCE IS $700 A MONTH. I CAN’T EVEN AFFORD THAT, MY ENTIRE CHECK GOES FOR MY RENT. IT’S TOO MUCH. EVEN THEN, I DON’T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?>>Reporter: WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR FOUR YEARS AGO?>>I DIDN’T, I’M A FIRST TIME VOTER. I ONLY REGISTERED BECAUSE I HAVE MY SON AND I’VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS, I CAN’T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.>>Reporter: IS THERE ANYBODY YOU LIKE THEIR MESSAGE?>>I LIKE BERNIE. BERNIE WAS THE MAN, DUDE. HE WAS FIGHTING FOR BROKE PEOPLE LIKE ME, PEOPLE THAT ARE STRUGGLING, YOU KNOW? THAT MEANT A LOT. THAT HIT THE HEART.>>Reporter: TRUMP ALMOST WON NEW HAMPSHIRE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.>>FOR PEOPLE THAT GOT MONEY, THAT THE FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT GOT NOTHING. POLITICAL CORRUPTION.>>SO, MATT, THE TAKEAWAY, AND I KNOW THE AUDIO WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO HEAR THERE, BUT HE SAYS BERNIE WAS THE MAN, BERNIE IS THE MAN, HE’S FIGHTING FOR THE POOR PEOPLE. AND THIS IS A FIRST TIME VOTER WHO WAS MOTIVATED TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT BERNIE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. HE HAS A LOT OF THE WORKING CLASS VOTE. THE PART I WANT TO HONE IN AND ASK YOU ABOUT, FOR HIM, BERNIE IS A FIGHTER. WHO IS THE OTHER FIGHTER? ARE THERE OTHER FIGHTERS ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE HERE THAT ARE FIGHTING AS HARD AS SENATOR SANDERS?>>TO ME, WHAT BERNIE DEMONSTRATED IN 2016 IS THE SAME REASON WHY HE GETS A LEVEL OF SUPPORT THAT HE DOES TODAY AND WHY HE HAS SUCH PEOPLE THAT LOVE HIM, BECAUSE HE COMES ACROSS, HE CARES ABOUT PEOPLE, AND HE’S AUTHENTIC. HE MAY NOT SAY THE WORDS, HE DOESN’T HAVE THE TYPICAL POLITICIAN-SPEAK. HE SAYS IT LIKE IT IS, THIS IS THE WAY IT IS, THIS IS WHAT’S WRONG IN OUR SOCIETY AND THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO GET DONE. PEOPLE BELIEVE HIM BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE HE THINKS ABOUT THEM AND CARES ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON IN THEIR LIFE. PART OF JOE BIDEN’S PROBLEM, WELL, HE MAY BE PAST HIS TIME AND I’M USED TO HIM AND I LIKE HIM BUT I DON’T KNOW IF I BELIEVE HIM, HE’S BEEN SAYING THESE THINGS FOR HIM. AND I THINK ELIZABETH WARREN GOT HERSELF IN A PLACE, EVEN THOUGH SHE’S AS PROGRESSIVE AS BERNIE, SHE SAID THIS ONE DAY, NOW SHE’S SAYING THIS. I THINK IF THERE’S A COMPETITION HERE, IS AMY KLOBUCHAR GOING TO EMERGE AS AN AUTHENTIC VOICE. IN THE DEBATE, FOR THE FIRST TIME PEOPLE LISTENED TO HER. PETE BUTTIGIEG, THERE’S QUESTIONS ABOUT HIM, IS HE TOO PROGRAMMED. I THINK RIGHT NOW BERNIE IS THE MOST AUTHENTIC POLITICIAN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. CAN SOMEBODY ELSE GET THEIR VOICE AND EMERGE IN A SIMILAR FASHION? YES. BUT THEY’LL HAVE TO CATCH UP WITH BERNIE ON THAT.>>MATT DOWD FOR US, THANKS SO MUCH, YOU AND YVETTE STAND BY FOR US. THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT IS SPEAKING IN SOUTH CAROLINA.>>TELL THEM THE RACE AIN’T OVER, MAN, WE’RE JUST GETTING STARTED. OUR VOTES COUNT TOO. WE’RE NOT GOING TO LET ANYONE TAKE THIS ELECTION AWAY FROM ME. I’VE SAID MANY TIMES I CAN’T BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE UNLESS YOU HAVE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FROM BLACK AND BROWN VOTERS, IT’S REALLY SIMPLE. IT’S A NATURAL FACT. IT’S TRUE. IT’S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. AND FOLKS, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE DEMOCRATS WHO WON AGAINST INCUMBENTS FROM JIMMY CARTER TO OUR GUY AND CLINTON, A GUY NAMED OBAMA, MY GOOD FRIEND, GUESS WHAT, THEY HAD OVERWHELMING AFRICAN-AMERICAN SUPPORT. WITHOUT IT, NOBODY’S EVER WON. NO, REALLY. AND YOU ALL KNOW YOU OWN MY HEART. LOOK, MORE IMPORTANT, YOU SHOULDN’T BE ABLE TO WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION WITHOUT BLACK AND BROWN VOTERS. TOO OFTEN YOUR LOYALTY, YOUR COMMITMENT, YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS PARTY HAVE BEEN TAKEN FOR GRANTED. I HAVE NEVER ONCE SINCE I GOT INVOLVED IN POLITICS TOOK IT FOR GRANTED AND I GIVE YOU MY WORD AS A BIDEN, I NEVER WILL. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT CANDIDATES WILL DO IN THE FUTURE, THE TENDENCY IS TO LOOK AT THE PAST. I LEFT A LAW FIRM AS A KID, A GOOD JOB AT A FANCY LAW FIRM, TO BECOME A PUBLIC DEFENDER BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ON THE EAST SIDE COULDN’T AFFORD A LAWYER. IN THE U.S. SENATE I PASSED THE EXTENSION OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT FOR TWO DECADES. THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT. BY THE WAY, I HAD THE BACK OF A GREAT PRESIDENT NAMED BARACK OBAMA FOR EIGHT YEARS. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] BY THE WAY, WE INCREASED ACCESS TO CAPITAL FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN ENTREPRENEURS. LET’S GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT. GIVE IT A CHANCE, THEY DO JUST AS WELL AS ANYBODY ELSE AND FRANKLY, BETTER. THEY BUILD NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY BUILD COMMUNITIES. BARACK AND I REDUCED THE FEDERAL POPULATION. AND SPEAKING OF HBCUs, I GOT $70 BILLION COMING TO HBCUs, NOT A JOKE. AND MINORITY UNIVERSITIES. WE SAVED THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY, PASSED OBAMACARE, STOPPED INSURANCE COMPANIES FROM DISCRIMINATING AGAINST PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING CONDITIONS AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT WE BUILT THE ECONOMY THAT TRUMP IS BRAGGING ABOUT. MY LORD. THIS GUY’S SQUANDERING HIS FATHER’S FORTUNE, NOW HE’S SQUANDERING THE ECONOMY WE GAVE HIM. THEY ALL THINK I’M KIDDING, I’M NOT. SO, MR. PRESIDENT, INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHING BARACK OBAMA, YOU SHOULD BE SAYING, THANK YOU, PRESIDENT OBAMA, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BUT FOLKS, LOOK, WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE TO DO. I PROMISE YOU, AS YOUR PRESIDENT, YOU WILL BE PARTNERS AND SHAPING THE POLICY THAT MAKES SURE EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN HAS AN OPPORTUNITY. THE THING I’VE NEVER LIKED, AND I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE FOR YEARS, I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU NEED BEST. I LISTEN. YOU ALL, THE LEADERS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY, KNOW WHAT YOU NEED BEST. WE DON’T LISTEN ENOUGH. WE TAKE FOR GRANTED. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED, YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR FAMILIES NEED. AND I’VE NEVER NOT LISTENED TO YOU. FIRST, WE NEED TO DEFEND AND BUILD ON OBAMACARE. TRUMP WANTS TO GET RID OF IT.>>WE’VE BEEN LISTENING TO SENATOR JOE BIDEN, NOT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TONIGHT. HE’S IN COLUMBIA, SOUTH CAROLINA. HE BOOKED THAT TICKET PRETTY QUICKLY OUT OF MANCHESTER, GETTING DOWN THERE FOR AN EVENT. AS WE LOOK AT THE OPTICS OF THIS EVENT, I’LL BRING IN ONE OF OUR GUESTS HERE, FORMER CORY BOOKER CAMPAIGN MANAGER WHO ALSO WORKED WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA, WE SEE A VERY DIVERSE CROWD, WE SEE A LOT OF WOMEN, WE SEE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE. BASICALLY EVERYBODY HE NEEDS TO WIN A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY IS THERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. BUT I HAVE TO ASK YOU, HE JUST MENTIONED PRESIDENT OBAMA. WHERE IS PRESIDENT OBAMA?>>THE PRESIDENT SAID — SORRY, THE FORMER PRESIDENT, STILL MY PRESIDENT, SAID AT THE BEGINNING AT THE OUTSIDE OF THIS RACE THAT HE WOULD TAKE HIS HANDS OFF AND LET THE VOTERS DECIDE. 1% OF THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN SO FAR. WE’LL LET THE 99% OF THE REST SPEAK. BARACK OBAMA’S TIME WILL COME BUT RIGHT NOW HE WANTS THE VOTERS TO SPEAK.>>CAN YOU READ THE TEA LEAVES AND SAY MAYBE HE WASN’T SURE IF VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS GOING TO WIN THE NOMINATION OR HE JUST DIDN’T WANT TO BE SORT OF THE KING MAKER THIS EARLY?>>I THINK IT’S THAT. I THINK FORMER PRESIDENTS HAVE TO BE VERY — AND FORMER NOMINEES TOO HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT PUTTING THEIR FINGERS ON THE SCALE, ULTIMATELY. THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO SPEAK. YOU NEED TO GIVE THE VOTERS A CHANCE TO LEARN ABOUT THESE OTHER CANDIDATES, WE’VE SEEN HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TODAY THAT AMY KLOBUCHAR, YOU KNOW, SURGED HER TOWARDS THE END. THAT’S BECAUSE SHE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY WITHOUT THE FINGERS ON THE SCALE OF A HILLARY CLINTON OR A BILL CLINTON OR A BARACK OBAMA TO ACTUALLY INTRODUCE HERSELF TO VOTERS. SO I THINK THE PRESIDENT DID THE RIGHT THING AND IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND WILL CONTINUE TO LET THIS PLAY OUT AND LET VOTERS MAKE THEIR CHOICE.>>YOU WORKED FOR SENATOR BOOKER’S CAMPAIGN, A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT HE HAD A GOOD CHANCE, A PEDIGREE SENATOR, LIVING AND WORKING IN NEWARK. IF YOU COULD CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS DID, WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE AS FAR AS MESSAGE GOES?>>I WAS GOING TO SAY, GET MORE VOTES AND MONEY. NOTHING ABOUT MESSAGE. I THINK THE SENATOR FEELS THE SAME WAY. HE TOLD ME AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CAMPAIGN, HE WAS GOING TO SAY WHY HE WANTED TO BE PRESIDENT AND HOW HE WANTED TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY AND IF THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY ELECTORATE CAME TO HIM THEN HE WOULD BE THE NOMINEE AND IF NOT, THEN NOT. AND THEY DIDN’T, AT LEAST NOT DURING THE TIME WE WERE IN THE RACE. 25 CANDIDATES WERE IN, 24 ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE.>>SENATOR KLOBUCHAR DID SOMEWHAT BETTER IN IOWA AND MAY RISE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS WINNING RIGHT NOW? IS THERE AN ANTI-BERNIE — >>I THINK OUR THEORY OF THE CASE OF THE RACE IS BEING PROVEN TRUE WHICH IS THAT THERE WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE LATE MOVEMENT. WE SAW 50%, AS YOU SAID, EARLIER TODAY OF FOLKS DECIDED HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IN THE LAST THREE DAYS. SENATOR KLOBUCHAR PROBABLY WENT FROM MID-SINGLE DIGITS TO WHAT MIGHT BE, AS YOU SEE, 20% OVER THE COURSE OF WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN LESS THAN A WEEK. SO, YOU KNOW, WE PLANNED AND HOPED WE WOULD BE THAT CANDIDATE THAT TOOK THAT MANTLE TOWARDS THE END, OBVIOUSLY IT DIDN’T HAPPEN FOR US. NOW IT’S HAPPENING POTENTIALLY FOR SENATOR KLOBUCHAR, NOW SHE HAS TO PROVE HERSELF, AS THE VICE PRESIDENT JUST SAID, ON SUPER TUESDAY. ULTIMATELY, I THINK THIS RACE, WE’LL SEE A LOT HAPPEN IN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS AS WE GET TO SUPER TUESDAY WITH A PLURALITY OF THE DELEGATES.>>KATIE, IF WE CAN PUT THAT GRAPHIC BACK UP, ABOUT 40% REPORTING. TELL ME HONESTLY, WITH THE VOTES THAT ARE IN SO FAR, WHAT SURPRISES UTMOST ABOUT THIS?>>THERE’S A LOT THAT SURPRISES ME. KLOBUCHAR AT 20 IS DEFINITELY SURPRISING. AND WARREN AT 9, BOTH. MATT WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THERE’S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT LIBERAL/MODERATE AND LANES LIKE THAT. I ACTUALLY THINK KLOBUCHAR, WARREN, AND BUTTIGIEG ARE ALL COMPETING FOR COLLEGE EDUCATED VOTERS AND SANDERS AND BIDEN ARE COMPETING FOR NONCOLLEGE EDUCATED VOTERS. I THINK AT THE END NONCOLLEGE EDUCATED VOTERS RAN TOWARDS KLOBUCHAR. BUTTIGIEG HAD THE EDGE COMING OUT OF IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE MAY HAVE STOPPED IT.>>WHAT ABOUT JOE BIDEN? SINGLE DIGITS.>>YOU KNOW, IT IS SURPRISING BUT I THINK HE TELEGRAPHED IT OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND WEEK, THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE STRONG HERE. HIS BASE OF SUPPORT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTES. THIS IS ONE OF THE LEAST — ONE OF THE STATES WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN THE COUNTRY. IT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE TOUGHER FOR HIM HERE. HE HAD TWO CANDIDATES IN THE MODERATE LANE, AS IT WERE, AND THEN YOU HAD SANDERS IN THE NONCOLLEGE EDUCATED LANE, TAKING FOLKS AWAY FROM HIM TOWARDS THE END. I THINK HE TOOK A TUMBLE.>>I’M NOT SURE BIDEN’S BASE OF SUPPORT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONLY BLACK VOTERS. IT WAS BLUE COLLAR, WORKING DEMOCRATS, AND THEY DIDN’T SHOW UP FOR JOE BIDEN BECAUSE — >>HE LAUNCHED HIS CAMPAIGN IN PENNSYLVANIA.>>SIX-PACK JOE. I THINK THERE’S MORE CLARITY HERE THAN WE MAYBE SEE AT FIRST, AND THE CLARITY IS, BERNIE SANDERS IS A SELF-DESCRIBED SOCIALIST AND A POPULIST. HE IS THE ANTI-BILLIONAIRE LEADER OF A MOVEMENT THERE. HE PUTS THOSE THINGS TOGETHER. HIS VOTERS ARE DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE OTHER VOTERS. THEY ARE ANGRIER. THEY’RE A LITTLE BIT LESS FORGIVING. THEY ARE YOUNGER. AND SO THOSE VOTERS ARE THERE. THEY’RE LOCKED IN. I THINK WE’RE SEEING ONE LANE IS CONSOLIDATING. CAN IT GET A LITTLE BIGGER FOR BERNIE? HOW MUCH? IS HE CAPPED? WHEN HE STANDS UPUP, DOES HE HI HIS LET ON THE CEILING AT SOME POINT? IF THE PARTY IS DIVIDED AGAINST BERNIE SANDERS, THAT PARTY MAY NOT STAND.>>DEVON DWYER IS TALKING TO VOTERS, TELL US WHAT TURNED THE TIDE FOR THEM.>>Reporter: WE’RE IN HANOVER, THIS IS THE WATCH PARTY OF WATCH PARTIES. IT’S KIND OF CLEARED OUT, THESE ARE ALL FRESHMEN, THEY ALL CAST THEIR FIRST VOTES FOR PRESIDENT AND THEIR FIRST VOTE EVER IN ANY ELECTION. AND WE’VE GOT A CROSS-SECTION HERE. LILY, YOU WERE JUST TELLING ME YOU DECIDED AT THE POLL TODAY. YOU WERE UNDECIDED TO THE VERY END. HOW DID YOU MAKE UP YOUR MIND?>>I WAS KIND OF GOING BETWEEN BERNIE AND BUTTIGIEG. AND I LITERALLY GOT TO THE POLL AND I WAS JUST LOOKING DOWN AT MY BALLOT AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, I’VE GOT TO MAKE A DECISION. IT’S LIKE 6:45, THEY’RE GOING TO CLOSE SOON.>>Reporter: YOU VOTED FOR BERNIE SANDERS BY DEFAULT.>>I SAID, MAKE A DECISION, AND IT WAS BERNIE.>>Reporter: YOU SAID YOU WERE ALSO DECIDING DOWN TO THE WIRE BETWEEN PETE BUTTIGIEG AND BERNIE SANDERS. TELL ME ABOUT THAT DECISIONMAKING, WHY DID YOU BREAK FOR BERNIE IN THE END?>>BERNIE HAS A LOT MORE SUPPORT HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHEN I WENT TO HIS RALLY, HE HAD A LOT MORE CROSS-SECTION AND DIVERSITY BETWEEN RAISES AND AGES AND GENDER VERSUS PETE WAS A LOT OF STUDENTS WHICH IS GREAT, BUT HE DIDN’T REALLY GET THE TURNOUT OF OLDER FOLKS AND THOSE MIDDLE-AGED VOTERS THAT ARE ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT AS WELL AS RACIAL DIVERSITY.>>Reporter: THE RACIAL DIVERSITY OF THE CROWD WAS A BIG FACTOR FOR YOU. MUSTAFA, YOU ALSO BACKED PETE BUTTIGIEG IN THE END. TELL ME BUT WHY YOU LANDED ON HIM AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE CRITICISM THAT HE’S TOO INEXPERIENCED, AND HE’S TOO WHITE. HE DOESN’T HAVE THE SUPPORT THAT JULIA IS TALKING ABOUT.>>I LANDED ON HIM BECAUSE WHEN I WENT TO HIS RALLY I FOUND THAT HE WAS REALLY REALISTIC. I FEEL LIKE HE DESCRIBED HIS POLICIES VERY ARTICULATELY. HE UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE WAS DOING. SO ADDRESS THE INEXPERIENCE AND THE VOTER SUPPORT, I FEEL LIKE AS THE ELECTION — AS THE POLLS CONTINUE TO RUN MORE, HE’LL GAIN TRACTION IN BOTH OF THOSE. EXPERIENCE WILL COME WITH THE JOB. HE’S ALREADY STARTING TO PROVE, THE DESCRIPTION OF HIS POLICIES SHOWS HE’S ALREADY STARTING TO GAIN EXPERIENCE.>>Reporter: ARE YOU DISAPPOINTED ANDREW YANG DROPPED OUT TONIGHT?>>I AM, I VOTED FOR HIM BECAUSE MY DAD SAID HE’S A BUSINESSMAN.>>Reporter: WHO WAS YOUR SECOND CHOICE?>>BERNIE SANDERS.>>Reporter: BACK TO YOU, TOM, AMY IS TAKING THE STAGE.>>A BREAKDOWN OF COLLEGE VOTERS. SENATOR KLOBUCHAR RIGHT NOW, 9:40 ON THE EAST COAST, SHE’S TAKING THE STAGE. LET’S LISTEN IN.>>WE HAVE DONE IT WITH IDEAS AND WE HAVE DONE IT WITH HARD WORK, BECAUSE WE ARE RESILIENT AND STRONG AS THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT NATION. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] THANK YOU TO OUR INCREDIBLE STAFF AND OUR UNSTOPPABLE VOLUNTEERS. MY WONDERFUL HUSBAND JOHN. OUR DAUGHTER ABIGAIL. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] AND THE PEOPLE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. BECAUSE OF YOU, WE ARE TAKING THIS CAMPAIGN TO NEVADA. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] WE ARE GOING TO SOUTH CAROLINA. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] AND WE ARE TAKING THIS MESSAGE OF UNITY TO THE COUNTRY. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] WE KNOW IN OUR HEARTS THAT IN A DEMOCRACY, IT IS NOT ABOUT THE LOUDEST VOICE OR THE BIGGEST BANK ACCOUNT. IT IS ABOUT THE BEST IDEA AND ABOUT THE PERSON WHO CAN TURN THOSE IDEAS INTO ACTION. [ APPLAUSE ] WE KNOW THAT WE CANNOT WIN BIG BY TRYING TO OUTDIVIDE THE DIVIDER IN CHIEF. WE KNOW THAT WE WIN BY BIG PEOPLE WITH US INSTEAD OF SHUTTING THEM OUT. DONALD TRUMP’S WORST NIGHTMARE IS THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE NAME-CALLING AND THE MUD-SLINGING, HAVE SOMEONE TO VOTE FOR IN NOVEMBER. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] [ AUDIENCE CHANTING ] I CANNOT WAIT TO BRING OUR GREEN BUS AROUND THE COUNTRY. I CANNOT WAIT TO WIN THE NOMINATION. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] I CANNOT WAIT TO BUILD A MOVEMENT AND WIN WITH A MOVEMENT OF FIRED-UP DEMOCRATS, OF INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATE REPUBLICANS. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] THAT SEE THIS ELECTION AS WE DO. WE SEE IT AS AN ECONOMIC CHECK ON THIS PRESIDENT. WE SEE IT AS A PATRIOTISM CHECK. AND WE SEE IT AS A DECENCY CHECK. BECAUSE IN THE END WE KNOW THAT WHAT UNITES US IS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT DIVIDES US. AND WE KNOW, WE KNOW THAT WE BELIEVE, SO MANY OF US BELIEVE THAT THE HEART OF AMERICA IS BIGGER THAN THE HEART OF THIS GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] TONIGHT IS ABOUT GRIT. AND MY STORY, LIKE SO MANY OF YOURS, IS ONE OF RESILIENCE. I ANNOUNCED MY CANDIDACY IN THE MIDDLE OF A MINNESOTA BLIZZARD. AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT PREDICTED I WOULDN’T EVEN GET THROUGH THAT SPEECH. BUT NOT THE PEOPLE OF MY STATE AND NOT THE PEOPLE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. EXCEPT THEN THEY PREDICTED THAT WE WOULDN’T MAKE IT THROUGH THE SUMMER. WE DID. THEN THEY PREDICTED WE WOULDN’T MAKE IT TO THE DEBATES. AND MAN, WERE WE AT THE DEBATE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] WHAT WE’VE DONE IS STEADY, WE’VE BEEN STRONG AND WE NEVER QUIT. I THINK THAT SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD FOR A PRESIDENT. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] BUT ACROSS THE MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MILES OF THIS RACE, WE REDEFINED THE WORD “GRIT.” YOU SEE IT WITH OUR HAPPY SCRAPPY CAMPAIGN. YOU SAW IT IN OUR TEN-COUNTY, 30-HOUR TOUR IN THE MIDDLE OF A NOR’EASTER, LET’S NOT FORGET THAT. YOU SAW IT IN OUR EARLY MORNING DINER STOPS AND OUR LATE NIGHT RALLIES, AND YES, YOU SAW IT ON THAT DEBATE STAGE. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] JUST LIKE SO MANY OF YOU OUT THERE, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RESILIENCE. MY GRANDPA WORKED 1,500 FEET UNDERGROUND IN THE MINES IN NORTHERN MINNESOTA. HE NEVER GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE HIS PARENTS WERE SICK. HE HAD NINE BROTHERS AND SISTERS. AND HE HAD TO HELP RAISE THEM. AND EVERY DAY HE WOULD GO DOWN IN THAT CAGE, IN THAT MINE, CARRYING A LUNCH BUCKET THAT MY GRANDMA WOULD PACK. HIS YOUNGEST SISTER HANNAH WAS ONLY 8 YEARS OLD WHEN THEY PUT HER IN AN ORPHANAGE AND HE VOWED THAT HE WOULD GO AND GET HER AND TWO YEARS LATER, HE BORROWED A CAR, WENT TO DULUTH AND BROUGHT HER HOME. HE AND MY GRANDMA SAVED MONEY IN A COFFEE CAN IN THEIR BASEMENT TO SEND MY DAD TO A TWO-YEAR COMMUNITY COLLEGE. MY DAD THEN BECAME A NEWSPAPERMAN. MY MOM, SHE WAS BORN IN MILWAUKEE, THE SITE OF OUR NEXT CONVENTION. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] AND SHE CAME TO MINNESOTA AND TAUGHT SECOND GRADE UNTIL SHE WAS 70 YEARS OLD. AND I STILL MEET PEOPLE THAT SAY SHE WAS THEIR FAVORITE TEACHER.>>WE HAVE SOME NEW REPORTING IN ON THE VOTES STILL BEING TALLIED. IT LOOKS LIKE SENATOR KLOBUCHAR IS DECLARING SHE’S THE WINNER OF THE EXPECTATION GAME, IN THIRD PLACE, BERNIE SANDERS IN FIRST, MAYOR PETE IN THE MIDDLE, THIS IS 53% OF THE EXPECTED VOTE REPORTING. THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE VOTED FOR BERNIE SANDERS, 41,000. WE’RE GOING TO TALK TO SENATOR HEITKAMP ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MONEY. RICK KLEIN, SENATOR KLOBUCHAR COMING OUT EARLY BEFORE MAYOR PETE, SHE’S IN THIRD PLACE AND ACTING LIKE SHE WON.>>SHE’S GOT A GOOD REASON TO CELEBRATE, SHE TALKED ABOUT HER DEBATE PERFORMANCE AND HOW MANY PEOPLE GAVE HER AN EXTRA LOOK. THERE WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS MOMENT, THIS IS A PLAY THAT A LOT OF CANDIDATES THOUGHT ABOUT, BEING IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME WHEN PEOPLE PUSH TO YOU. AND THAT’S WHAT THE. PETE BUTTIGIEG, WHO WAS SURGING UP UNTIL THAT MOMENT, PROBABLY GOT HURT A BIT. AND BERNIE SANDERS PLAY HAVE HIS VICTORY, IF HE WINS TONIGHT, HE MAY HAVE SENATOR KLOBUCHAR TO THANK BECAUSE THOSE NUMBERS ARE TAKING AWAY FROM PETE BUTTIGIEG.>>TWO VICTORIES, RIGHT, HE WINS TONIGHT BUT HE ALSO — THERE’S NOW A NEW CANDIDATE WHO IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY MAYOR PETE’S VOTES GOING INTO OTHER STATES, NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA.>>YEAH, AND THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THESE TWO MODERATE CANDIDATES IS THEY BOTH HAVE BIG VULNERABILITIES WHEN IT COMES TO AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, AMY KLOBUCHAR ANSWERING TOUGH QUESTIONS ON “THE VIEW,” PETE BUTTIGIEG, THEY’RE UNTESTED IN THIS FIELD. JOE BIDEN’S PROPOSITION THAT HE HAS THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE LOCKED DOWN, THAT’S A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO COUNT ON. IT’S ALL HE HAS LEFT AS A CANDIDATE, HE MAY BE RIGHT BUT IT’S A HECK OF A GAMBLE. THAT’S WHY HE’S DOWN IN SOUTH CAROLINA TONIGHT.>>THESE WERE THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR, NEW DATA WE JUST GOT IN. TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, THIS BODES WELL FOR HER, ESPECIALLY IF SENATOR WARREN HAS SERIOUS TROUBLE, IF SENATOR KLOBUCHAR IS IN AND OUT FRONTRUNNER AS FAR AS FEMALE CANDIDATES GO, SHE MAY ULTIMATELY END UP BEING THE ONLY ONE, 67% OF WOMEN THERE.>>OFTEN YOU LOOK AROUND THE CROWD IN KLOBUCHAR EVENTS, A LOT OF WOMEN IN THE ROOM LOOK LIKE AMY KLOBUCHAR. THERE’S SOMETHING COMPELLING ABOUT HER AS A MIDWESTERN MOM. SHE LIKES TO POINT OUT SHE’S THE RIGHT AGE, IN BETWEEN THE OLDER CANDIDATES AND THE YOUNGEST CANDIDATE IN PETE BUTTIGIEG. AND PEOPLE JUST SORT OF RELATE TO HER. WOMEN DRIVE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THEY MAKE UP A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE VOTE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. THEY ARE DETERMINATIVE IN THE PRIMARY. THAT’S WHO SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR IS APPEALING TO. YOU HEARD IT EARLIER FROM SENATOR WARREN, THE OTHER WOMAN IN THE RACE, SINGLING OUT CLAIM FOR HAVING THE GRIT.>>SENATOR KLOBUCHAR DECLARING HERSELF ESSENTIALLY THE WINNER OF THE EXPECTATIONS GAME, THIRD PLACE, NOT BAD CONSIDERING WHERE SHE WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. NOW THE RACE CHANGES. WE GO TO NEVADA WITH LATINO VOTERS WHO WILL HAVE A BIG ROLE THERE. SOUTH CAROLINA WITH AFRICAN-AMERICANS VOTERS. HOW DOES SENATOR KLOBUCHAR PLAY WITH THOSE GROUPS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE SAW WITH SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS, BEING A PROSECUTOR DOESN’T HELP YOU OUT IN THE PRIMARIES.>>AND IN NEVADA TOO, ASIAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, LATINO VOTERS, IT’S DEFINITELY THE MOST DIVERSE PRIMARY, A CROSS-SECTION OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, IT’S A PROVING GROUND. LOOK, MOST OF THE VOTERS TODAY, CAUCUSGOERS IN IOWA, PRIMARY VOTERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, CAN SEE THEMSELVES IN AMY KLOBUCHAR. BUT YOU’RE GOING NOW TO DIVERSE VOTERS AND IT WILL BE A BRAND-NEW BALL GAME IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. DON’T FORGET SUPER TUESDAY, MINNESOTA, HER HOME STATE, MASSACHUSETTS, WARREN’S HOME STATE, VERMONT. A PLURALITY OF THE STATES THAT VOTE HAVE VERY HEAVY BLACK POPULATIONS, MOSTLY IN THE SOUTH, FROM VIRGINIA TO ALABAMA. THAT IS WHERE THIS THING IS GOING TO TURN. IT ALWAYS WAS GOING TO TURN THAT WAY, MOST OF THE DELEGATES ARE THERE. MAYOR PETE AND SENATOR KLOBUCHAR HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO, HONESTLY. JOE BIDEN HAS HAD A HOLD ON THOSE VOTERS FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR. WHETHER HE CAN KEEP IT OR ONE OF THE TWO OF THEM, OR STEYER OR ONE OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES, CAN GRAB IT WILL BE THE STORY OF THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.>>WAS IT A SMART PLAY TO GET OUT THERE BEFORE MAYOR PETE TONIGHT?>>YEAH, I THINK IT WAS A VERY SMART PLAY TO GET OUT THERE ON LAST MONDAY IN IOWA AND BE THE FIRST ONE OUT OF THE GATE AND I THINK THEY’RE RUNNING THE SAME PLAYBOOK NOW. PEOPLE GO TO BED, PEOPLE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT THEIR KIDS TO BED HERE IN A COUPLE OF HOURS. SO YOU WANT TO BE OUT THERE, AND FRANKLY SHE GOT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS NETWORK AND OTHERS TO, UNFILTERED, GIVE HER MESSAGE PROBABLY FOR THE FIRST TIME FOR A LOT OF FOLKS IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA, AND THE SUPER TUESDAY STATES. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GET OUT EARLY, IT WAS PART.>>HEIDI, YOU GO TO BED TONIGHT AND SAY, SENATOR SANDERS WON, BUT DID YOU HEAR ABOUT SENATOR KLOBUCHAR, NOW SHE’S THE STORY COMING OUT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE.>>WELL, THAT’S RIGHT. AND I’VE BEEN LOOKING AT BERNIE’S NUMBERS, BERNIE WILL PROBABLY GET 80,000 VOTES.>>CAN YOU GET THAT GRAPHIC BACK UP FOR US, KATIE? THIS IS THE POINT HEIDI WANTED TO MAKE ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR SENATOR SANDERS WITH 50% VOTING RIGHT NOW.>>54. LET’S SAY HE ROUNDS UP TO 80,000 VOTERS. HE GOT OVER 150,000 VOTERS FOUR YEARS AGO. AND SO THERE IS DEFINITELY A SLIPPAGE IN TERMS OF THE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THIS STATE WHO HAVE NOW TURNED TO A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE. AND I THINK IT GOES TO THE QUESTION OF ELECTABILITY. DO NOT FORGET THAT AMY IS PROJECTING AN ELECTABILITY, I’M FROM THE SO-CALLED HEARTLAND AND I KNOW THAT TENDS TO BE ONE OF THOSE CODE WORDS AND I DON’T MEAN TO USE IT THAT WAY, BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO REMEMBER, MINNESOTA HAS A VERY LARGE NEW AMERICAN POPULATION, ASIAN POPULATION, HMONG. SHE HAS A TRACK RECORD WITH A LOT OF FOLKS THAT YOU WOULDN’T THINK A SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA WOULD HAVE. I SUSPECT WE’LL SEE HER SUPPORTERS FROM MINNESOTA WHO REPRESENT MINORITY COMMUNITIES COMING OUT AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT SHE’S DONE FOR THEM. AMY IS A VERY GOOD POLITICIAN, SHE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT SHE’S DOING AND DO NOT COUNT HER OUT. SHE’S GOT THE BEST PLAY TONIGHT OF ANYONE, I THINK.>>MAYBE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS OF THE EVENING IS WHAT YOU SAID, TOM, IF ELIZABETH WARREN SINKS TONIGHT TOO, IF BERNIE CONSOLIDATES THAT LANE, SHE MAY BE THE ONLY WOMAN LEFT IN THIS RACE, WHEN WE’RE STILL IN THE “ME TOO,” VIABLE WOMAN LEFT IN THIS RACE, IN A “ME TOO” ERA, AGAINST MAYBE A BILLIONAIRE IN BLOOMBERG, TO RUN AGAINST ANOTHER BILLIONAIRE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, BOTH OF THEM WITH ISSUES ON THAT FRONT. THERE’S MORE FUEL IN THAT ROCKET.>>BUT SHE’S NOT BEEN A NATIONAL POLITICIAN AS ELIZABETH HAS BEEN. ELIZABETH HAS A CORE BASE OF SUPPORT THAT IS LOYAL BEYOND BELIEF. DO NOT COUNT HER OUT. SHE HAD A BAD NIGHT TONIGHT.>>I’M NOT COUNTING HER OUT.>>DO NOT COUNT HER OUT, SHE HAD A BAD NIGHT TONIGHT, I THINK EVEN SHE WOULD ADMIT THAT. SHE WAS SMART TO GIVE HER STUMP SPEECH WHEN YOU WOULD RUN SOME OF IT AND THEN SHE EXITED STAGE LEFT. SHE’S OFF TO BETTER PARTS.>>CANDIDATES DON’T USUALLY BLEED THEMSELVES BACK TO HEALTH. JOE BIDEN AND ELIZABETH WARREN ARE BLEEDING BADLY TONIGHT.>>WHAT WE’RE LEARNING I THINK FROM IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE IS THAT NAME RECOGNITION REALLY DIDN’T MATTER THAT MUCH. SENATOR SANDERS, YES. BUT LOOK AT MAYOR PETE AND SENATOR KLOBUCHAR, TO YOUR POINT, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SENATOR BOOKER, SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS, VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, SENATOR WARREN, THESE ARE NATIONAL CANDIDATES. PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY KNEW THESE CANDIDATES. AND YET WHO IS EMERGING OUTSIDE OF BERNIE IS THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA AND THE FORMER MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA.>>THIS RACE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IS LIKE RUNNING A MAYOR’S RACE. THE VOTE COUNTS AREN’T MUCH HIGHER THAN A MIDDLE SIZED CITY IN THIS COUNTRY. SO LET’S GET TO SUPER TUESDAY, LET’S NOT WORRY ABOUT WHETHER PEOPLE ARE BLEEDING. LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THE ENTIRE FIELD. I THINK THAT — I GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL POINT, 90% OF THE VOTE WENT TO THESE FIVE CANDIDATES. WHAT WOULD COMPEL TULSI GABBARD TO STAY IN THE RACE, WHAT WOULD COMPEL — MICHAEL BENNET’S OUT, YANG IS OUT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER ONES WHO HAVE BEEN COMING ALONG, STEYER, WHY DIDN’T STEYER DO BETTER TONIGHT? WILL STEYER DO BETTER IN SOUTH CAROLINA? WHAT’S GOING TO KEEP HIM IN THE RACE IS UPPING THAT SCREEN. AND I DON’T MEAN HIS PLATFORM, I MEAN THE MONEY. AND SO HE CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT THE MONEY. AMY’S GOT TO HAVE MONEY TO COMPETE IN SUPER TUESDAY. AND I KNOW YOU’RE SAYING MONEY WON’T MATTER. MONEY ALWAYS MATTERS.>>LISTEN, I’LL TAKE THE $2 BILLION, OKAY? AS A CONSULTANT, WOULD YOU TAKE IT? MONEY MATTERS. BUT STILL, THERE’S NOTHING SEXIER THAN A CANDIDATE WHO ALL OF A SUDDEN GETS HOT, BURSTS ON THE SCENE. OTHER CANDIDATES HAVE SEEMED INADEQUATE. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, BOOM, SHE HAS HER MOMENT. SHE’S GOING TO BE TESTED, YOU’RE RIGHT. IF SHE PASSES THE TEST — >>SOMEBODY THAT COMES FROM BEHIND AND NOW YOU’RE THE FRONTRUNNER, YOU’VE NEVER BEEN TESTED BEFORE. AND IT’S COMING.>>I WAS GOING TO SAY, MAYOR PETE, I THINK ONE OF THE BEST THINGS ABOUT HIS CAMPAIGN IS HE SORT OF ROCKETED OFF AND HAS MANAGED TO SORT OF — >>HANG IN THERE.>>HANG IN THERE, AND IT SHOWS HE’S A TALENTED POLITICS. SENATOR WARREN, ALSO A TALENTED POLITICIAN, BUT SHE’S HAD TO TAKE THE HEAT SINCE MAY WHEN SHE TOOK OFF IN THIS RACE. JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE FOR DECADES. WE’LL SEE NOW IF SENATOR KLOBUCHAR CAN HANDLE IT, IT WILL BE A HOT A COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR HER FOR SURE. NOBODY LOVES A COMEBACK STORY THAN THE POLITICAL MEDIA. IF JOE BIDEN OR ELIZABETH WARREN MAKES A STRONGER SHOWING IN NEVADA OR SOUTH CAROLINA THAN HERE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF RUNWAY.>>WE’RE ONLY ONE AND A HALF CONTESTS INTO THE RACE, A LOT TO GO. WE’LL TAKE A BREAK. WE’LL TALK ABOUT THE INDEPENDENTS, WHAT THE STATS ARE SHOWING US. AMY KLOBUCHAR, AGAIN, CELEBRATING WHAT COULD BE A THIRD PLACE VICTORY TONIGHT. WE’LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. YOU’RE >>>OH, WOW. WOW, WOW, WOW. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.>>HERE NOW, LIVE FROM MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE, TOM LLAMAS.>>DONALD TRUMP FROM FOUR YEARS AGO. HIS FIRST ELECTION VICTORY EVER. LOSING IOWA TO TED CRUZ, WINNING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, EVENTUALLY WINNING THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION, AND WINNING ON ELECTION DAY, STUNNING SO MANY ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. WE DO HAVE SOME RESULTS IN. WE DON’T HAVE THE FULL PICTURE YET BUT WE HAVE MORE THAN 54% OF THE VOTE BEING REPORTED IN RIGHT NOW. AS IT LOOKS RIGHT NOW, 62%, THIS IS NEW FOR US. 27% FOR BERNIE SANDERS. LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE HIS NIGHT. MAYOR PETE AT 24% BUT CATCHING UP. AMY KLOBUCHAR, THIRD PLACE, 20%, SHE’S VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. SENATOR WARREN, THE MASSACHUSETTS SENATOR JUST NEXT DOOR, AT 9%. FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN 8%. SINGLE DIGITS FOR THOSE TWO NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED POLITICIANS. PRETTY SURPRISING. I WANT TO GO TO OUR POLITICAL DIRECTOR, RICK KLINE. WE HAVE VOTER DATA ABOUT HOW VOTERS IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES WHEN THEY WENT INTO THOSE POLLS. KATIE, WE COULD PUT UP THAT GRAPHIC RIGHT NOW TO SEE. A LOT OF PEOPLE DESCRIBING THEMSELVES FROM THESE EXIT POLLS AS LIBERAL, SOMEWHAT LIBERAL, MODERATE, VERY LIBERAL, CONSERVATIVE. WHO DID THIS BENEFIT THE MOST HERE?>>PETE BUTTIGIEG, WHO’S CUT INTO A LOT OF THE BERNIE SUPPORT AMONG YOUNGER VOTERS, BENEFITS FROM THAT AS WELL. MODERATE, THAT’S AMY KLOBUCHAR, THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT SHE’S BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU HEARD IT THERE IN HER SPEECH. SHE TALKED ABOUT INDEPENDENT-MINDED PEOPLE, MIDDLE OF THE ROAD-PEOPLE. THE CONSERVATIVE VOTE, A SMALL NUMBER, I WONDER HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE REPUBLICANS CREATING MISCHIEF, MAYBE COMING OVER AND DOING THAT ALEX SAYING THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. >>DONALD TRUMP SAID IT. >>NEVER HAPPEN, DOESN’T SEEM IT HAD A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE VOTE ARE RECOGNIZE THE NUMBER OF LIBERALS HIGHER THAN HISTORICALLY, CLASH NEW HAMPSHIRE. THIS IS A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE STATE, LIVE FREE OR DIE, LIBERTARIAN, LOW-TAX STATE. THE IDEA THAT LIBERAL CAN BE SOMETHING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, A PROPOSITION THAT BERNIE SANDERS TESTED. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SKEPTICAL EARLY ON. HE BLEW HILLARY CLINTON AWAY HERE, WON ACROSS GROUPS, BENEFITED FROM A BIG UPTICK AMONG SELF-DESCRIBED LIBERALS. >>YOU RAN CORY BOOKER’S CAMPAIGN. BERNIE SANDERS IS NOT GOING TO GET THE 60% HE GOT FOUR YEARS AGO. WHAT DO YOU THINK HIS VOTERS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW VOTERS IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, A LOT DID USE THE WORD LIBERAL. DO YOU THINK THEY WENT TO MAYOR PETE AND SENATOR KLOBUCHAR?>>THE LIBERALS –>>THE PEOPLE WHO BERNIE HAD LAST TIME AROUND THAT DIDN’T STAY WITH –>>IT’S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION, I DON’T KNOW. I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF ANTI-HILLARY CLINTON VOTERS LAST TIME. AND THEY HAD NOWHERE ELSE TO GO, REALLY, BUT BERNIE SANDERS. AND SO I COULD SEE THEM GOING TO PETE, GOING TO BIDEN, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYBODY. BUT, YOU KNOW, HIS BASE IS THE LEFT OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND DISAFFECTED INDEPENDENTS. THAT’S PROBABLY 26%, 27% OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY ELECTORATE. AND THEY BASICALLY STUCK WITH HIM. I THINK THAT’S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO. IT’S NOT, AS THE SENATOR WAS SAYING EARLIER, IT IS NOT A MAJORITY OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, IT’S NOT A MAJORITY OF THE ELECTORATE, BUT WHEN THE REST OF THE PARTY IS SPLINTERED BETWEEN EIGHT CANDIDATES, IT’S ENOUGH TO CARRY THIS STATE AND PROBABLY A COUPLE OF OTHER STATES GOING FORWARD. >>THERE WERE CHURCH BELLS RINGING HERE IN MANCHESTER. >>EVERY TIME HE SPEAKS. >>I DON’T KNOW IF THAT WAS FORESHADOWING ANYTHING. BUT IT DID SORT OF TAKE A TONE OF A FUNERAL. AT ONE POINT WHEN YOU WERE SAYING THAT, AND ALEX, I KNOW YOU HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THE CANDIDATES THAT DID POORLY. IT IS STILL SO EARLY IN THE PROCESS. >>IT’S EARLY, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I WILL SAY THIS, THOUGH, ABOUT BERNIE AGAIN. AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT BERNIE SANDERS AND WE SAY, OKAY, HE’S GOT THE SUPPORT OF THE OUTSIDERS, THE ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT, POPULISTS IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THAT’S NOT ENOUGH, HE CAN’T WIN. WHY DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? THAT’S WHAT I SAID ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, THAT’S WHAT ALL OF US THOUGHT ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. THERE’S NOT ENOUGH THERE, PEOPLE AREN’T REALLY THAT ANGRY AT THE ESTABLISHMENT IN BOTH PARTIES TO ELECT A GUY LIKE DONALD TRUMP. NOW A GUY LIKE BERNIE SANDERS. WELL, WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO UNDERESTIMATE THAT VAST, UNWASHED AMERICA OUT THERE, BOTH PARTIES. AND MAYBE BERNIE’S A LITTLE STRONGER THAN WE THINK. >>MAKE NO MISTAKE, I THINK — THE QUESTION IS, CAN HE BUILD THAT? BUT DONALD TRUMP I THINK GOT 35%, 38% HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE FOUR YEARS AGO, BERNIE’S GOING TO GET 26%, 27%, THAT’S A PRETTY BIG GAP. THAT SAID, IT’S NOT A FOREGONE CONCLUSION, IF BIDEN WERE TO GET OUT OF THE RACE OR KLOBUCHAR OR WHOEVER, THAT ALL OF THOSE VOTES ARE GOING TO GO TO THE MODERATE, HE COULD PICK UP SOME OF THOSE. >>BELLS ARE RINGING AGAIN. >>YOU NEVER KNOW. THAT’S WHAT I THINK HAPPENED TO TRUMP. AS FOLKS GOT OUT OF THE RACE, HE PICKED UP A LITTLE FROM EVERYBODY, NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOU’RE AT 50% AND WINNING THE PRIMARY. >>BACK TO THE MAYOR PETE WATCH PARTY. MORA SULLIVAN, PETE BUTTIGIEG’S CAMPAIGN COCHAIR, THANKS FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. I’M SURE IT’S VERY LOUD THERE. WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. MY FIRST THING, WHY HAVEN’T WE HEARD FROM MAYOR PETE YET? ARE YOU WAITING FOR ALL THE RESULTS TO COME IN? DO YOU THINK THERE’S A CHANCE YOU COULD COME OUT ON TOP?>>FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON. IT’S SO EXCITING HERE. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE’VE GOT A PACKED GYM. THE CROWD IS GOING WILD. THEY’VE BEEN CHANTING “BUTTIGIEG” FOR HOURS. THERE’S JUST A TON OF ENTHUSIASM HERE. WE’RE FEELING TERRIFIC.>>YOU KNOW, MAYOR PETE GOT HIT FROM EVERY SIDE, IT SEEMED, RIGHT AFTER IOWA WITH THAT VICTORY, SLIM VICTORY, BUT VICTORY. AT THE DEBATE AND OVER THE LAST WEEK. WHERE IS HIS MINDSET AT? AT WHAT POINT DO YOU SORT OF GO ON THE COUNTER OFFENSIVE? I KNOW THERE WERE ATTACKS LOBBIED AT SENATOR SANDERS RIGHT NOW. BUT SEEMS LIKE YOU’RE GOING TO BE FIGHTING FOR A LOT OF MODERATES AS WELL.>>WHAT WE’RE HEARING FROM VOTERS ALL ACROSS THE STATE, YOU KNOW, FROM KEANE, FROM LEBANON, FROM HANOVER, CONCORD, MANCHESTER, HAMPTON, PORTSMOUTH, VOTERS ARE TIRED OF THE SAME WASHINGTON POLITICS. AND BEATING EACH OTHER UP. AND THEY’RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND SOMETHING INCLUSIVE. AND THAT’S WHAT PETE HAS BUILT, NOT ONLY HERE IN THE GRANITE STATE, BUT ALL ACROSS OUR COUNTRY. HE’S PUT TOGETHER A BROAD COALITION THAT APPEALS TO MODERATES, APPEALS TO INDEPENDENTS, APPEALS TO PROGRESSIVE, APPEALING TO FORMER REPUBLICANS. WE’RE SEEING THAT ENERGY ACROSS THE GRANITE STATE, YOU’RE SEEING IT HERE TONIGHT. >>CRITICS OF MAYOR PETE WILL SAY, HE DID WELL IN TWO STATES THAT ARE MAJORITY WHITE, TWO SMALL STATES. NOW WE MOVE ON TO SOME SERIOUS COMPETITIONS IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. WHAT’S THE PITCH TO MINORITY VOTERS THERE? MAYOR PETE, ESPECIALLY WITH AFRICAN-AMERICANS, HAS HAD SOME TROUBLE.>>YEAH, LISTEN, WE’RE GOING TO BE WORKING HARD. WE’RE FEELING REALLY GOOD. WE’VE BEEN ON THE GROUND IN SOUTH CAROLINA, IN NEVADA, FOR A LONG TIME NOW, ORGANIZING. WE’VE GOT MORE THAN 50 STAFF ON THE GROUND IN NEVADA. WE’VE MADE AD INVESTMENTS THERE. WE’VE MADE DIGITAL INVESTMENTS IN THE RUST BELT STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN OBAMA/TRUMP COUNTIES AND WE’RE EXCITED ABOUT THE MOMENTUM COMING OUT OF IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE AND WE’RE GOING TO KEEP IT GOING. >>OKAY, MARA, I DON’T THINK YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION, THOUGH. WHAT IS THE PITCH? ESPECIALLY TO LATINO VOTERS IN NEVADA AND IN SOUTH CAROLINA TO AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS? ARE YOU PROGRAMMING CAMPAIGN EVENTS IN THOSE DISTRICTS? WHAT IS THE STRATEGY HEADING INTO TWO VERY IMPORTANT STATES OVER THE NEXT THREE WEEKS?>>YEAH, I MEAN, LOOK WHAT YOU’RE SEEING — WHAT YOU SAW IN IOWA, WHAT YOU’RE SEEING HERE, IT’S JUST VERY CLEARLY THAT PETE IS DEMONSTRATING THAT HE IS THE CANCELED DATE WHO CAN BEAT DONALD TRUMP. WHEN WE HEAR THAT’S WHAT VOTERS ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT, HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, ALSO IN NEVADA, ALSO IN SOUTH CAROLINA, AND WE’RE MAKING THAT REALLY, REALLY CLEAR TONIGHT. WE’RE MOVING INTO THOSE STATES WITH THAT MOMENTUM. THAT IS WHAT IS ON THE TOP OF VOTERS’ MINDS.>>WHAT WOULD YOU TELL A BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER? HOW DO YOU GET THEM INTO YOUR TENT?>>YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE HEARING MOST FROM ACROSS OUR STATE IS THE FACT THAT PETE IS APPEALING TO EVERYBODY. THAT HE IS BUILDING A BIG TENT WHERE EVERYBODY IS WELCOME AND ANYONE CAN BELONG. AND THAT INCLUDES PROGRESSIVES, MODERATES, INDEPENDENTS, AND EVEN FUTURE FORMER REPUBLICANS. SO WE WELCOME EVERYBODY TO JOIN THIS MOVEMENT. WE’VE BEEN SO EXCITED BY THE FOLKS ON THE GROUND IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WHO HAVE JOINED. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT PROGRESS AROUND THE COUNTRY.>>MARA, WHILE WE HAVE YOU, ANY IDEA WHEN WE COULD EXPECT MAYOR PETE, JUST FOR PLANNING PURPOSES HERE?>>WELL, IF THE CROWD HERE HAS ITS WAY, IT WOULD BE ANY MINUTE. BECAUSE THEY’RE GOING PRETTY WILD FOR HIM, AS YOU CAN SEE. THEY’VE BEEN ON THEIR FEET CHANTING. WE’VE HEARD “PRESIDENT PETE.” WE’VE HEARD “BUTTIGIEG.” YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST HOUR OR TWO NOW. WE’RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. IT’S ELECTRIC IN HERE. AND THEN WE’RE ON TO NEVADA, SOUTH CAROLINA, CONTINUING TO BUILD THIS MOVEMENT.>>ALL RIGHT, THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, WE APPRECIATE IT. GOOD LUCK IN THE FUTURE ALONG THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR JON KARL, HE’S SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE, GETTING THE REAL STORY FROM THE MAYOR PETE CAMPAIGN. LET’S GO TO MATT DOWD, CHIEF POLITICAL ANALYST. I WANT TO PUT UP THE POLLS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR AS MUCH AS THE VOTES THAT HAVE BEEN REPORTED, 64% AT THIS POINT. YOU SEE THE NUMBERS HAVEN’T CHANGED TOO MUCH, MATT, SINCE WE SPOKE TO YOU EARLIER TONIGHT. YOU SAW SENATOR KLOBUCHAR COME OUT EARLY SORT OF ESTABLISHING HERSELF AS A VICTOR IN THE EXPECTATIONS GAME. WE’RE WAITING TO HEAR FROM SENATOR SANDERS AND MAYOR PETE SO FAR. LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW, MATT, WHAT STANDS OUT TO YOU? AND HOW BIG OF A NIGHT IS THIS FOR SENATOR KLOBUCHAR?>>WHAT STANDS OUT IS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED ALREADY, KLOBUCHAR’S A BIG SURPRISE BECAUSE SHE WAS AT 6% FOUR DAYS AGO IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, NOW 20% FINISHING THIRD. SHE’S GOTTEN HERSELF INTO THE CONVERSATION. SO SHE’S NOW LAUNCHED HERSELF IN THE MIDST OF THIS CONVERSATION. THE OTHER THING IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMBINATION OF VOTES THAT WENT TO BOTH BIDEN AND ELIZABETH WARREN, ADD THOSE TWO NUMBERS TOGETHER, THEY DON’T EVEN EQUAL THE THIRD-PLACE FINISH. IN TOTAL, BOTH THOSE NUMBERS COMBINED DON’T EQUAL WHAT AMY KLOBUCHAR GOT. THAT’S A HUGELY DISAPPOINTING NIGHT FOR JOE BIDEN, FOR ELIZABETH WARREN, FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS. IT’S GOING TO MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT. THEY CAN GO ON, THEY CAN PUT A STAKE IN THE GROUND IN NEVADA OR SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT IT’S GOING TO MAKE IT MUCH HARDER. RAISING MONEY FROM CONTRIBUTORS WHO THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO NOW AGAIN, THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY IS IT THEY FINISHED IN THIRD OR FOURTH IN TWO CONSECUTIVE — OR FIFTH — IN TWO CONSECUTIVE STATES IN THE PROCESS OF THIS. SO THAT SURPRISED ME. I THINK THE OTHER THING, I’VE BEEN WARNING PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, THIS RACE IS NOT GOING TO GET NARROWED FAST LIKE WE’RE ALL USED TO. IT’S MUCH MORE AKIN TO A ’92 DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY RACE WHERE THAT RACE WENT ON FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS AND MONTHS. WE DIDN’T GET A CLEAR SENSE UNTIL APRIL OR MAY THAT BILL CLINTON WAS GOING TO SURVIVE AND WIN THAT RACE. AS I REMINDED FOLKS THE OTHER DAY, BILL CLINTON WON ONE OF THE FIRST 11 PRIMARIES AND CAUCUSES OF THAT TIME. SO IT WAS A VERY DIVIDED RACE. WE ARE IN THAT MODE. I THINK THE THING ABOUT AMY KLOBUCHAR, SHE DID WELL. BUT WHAT WE DON’T KNOW IS DOES SHE HAVE A SECOND ACT? CAN SHE PUT IT IN ANOTHER GEAR? BECAUSE SHE’S NEVER BEEN TESTED IN THE WAY SHE’S ABOUT TO BE TESTED IN THIS RACE. SHE’S NEVER BEEN A NATIONAL THING WITH A TARGET ON HER BACK, WHICH SHE NOW HAS A TARGET ON HER BACK. AND HOW SHE DOES IN THAT. SHE COULD PERFORM VERY WELL AND KEEP THE LIFT GOING. BUT SHE’LL BE TESTED UNLIKE ANYTHING SHE’S EVER BEEN TESTED BEFORE.>>YOU KNOW, MATT, JOE BIDEN WAS LEADING IN SO MANY NATIONAL POLLS ACROSS EVERY — PRETTY MUCH EVERY POLLING SITE UP UNTIL THIS WEEK. HE GOT KNOCKED IN THE DEBATE A LITTLE FOR CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT THE POLITICS OF THE PAST. IF YOU WERE ADVISING HIM, IS IT TOO LATE FOR JOE BIDEN TO CHANGE HIS MESSAGE, START PROMOTING SOMETHING NEW? OR STICK WITH THE MESSAGE, IT WAS GREAT UNDER OBAMA, IT’S GOING TO BE GREAT UNDER JOE, STICK WITH ME, GIVE ME A CHANCE?>>I THINK IT’S VERY HARD AT THIS POINT IN TIME, FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS, ONE, FOR JOE BIDEN TO CHANGE HIS MESSAGE SINCE HE’S BEEN RUNNING FOR NEARERLY A YEAR ON THE SAME MESSAGE. TWO, PART OF HIS MESSAGE WAS ELECTABILITY, WHICH I ALWAYS THOUGHT WAS A FLAWED MESSAGE. IF YOU DESCRIBE YOURSELF AS THE MOST ELECTABLE CANDIDATE, THEN YOU LOSE, IT’S COMPLETELY BURST THAT BUBBLE AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET THAT BACK, IT’S A CATCH-22, IS TO WIN, BUT YOU CAN’T WIN IF PEOPLE NO LONGER THINK YOU’RE THE ELECTABLE CANDIDATE. I THINK IT’S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT BUT IT’S POSSIBLE. THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, APPEAL TO THEIR LOYALTY. APPEAL TO THEIR I WANT TO GO TO YVETTE SIMPSON DOWN THERE IN NEW YORK. OUR TIMES SQUARE STUDIOS. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SENATOR SANDERS, IT LOOKS LIKE IT’S GOING TO BE HIS NIGHT, HE WON SUCH A BIG MAJORITY OF THE VOTE LAST TIME AROUND. HEIDI HEITKAMP WAS MAKING THE POINT THAT HE HAD SO MANY MORE VOTERS FOUR YEARS AGO. GRANTED, IT WAS A TWO-PERSON RACE. BUT THE EXCITEMENT AND THE ENERGY WAS THERE FOR SENATOR SANDERS. HE WINS TONIGHT, BUT WHERE DO YOU THINK HIS VOTERS WENT?>>THIS IS A DIFFERENT YEAR. WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING TO FOLKS IN OUR CAMP IS, LISTEN TO YOUR HEART, LISTEN TO YOUR MIND. FEAR DOES AN AMAZING THING ON THE AMERICAN PSYCHE. PEOPLE ARE SO AFRAID OF TRUMP THAT THEY ARE REALLY WAITING UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE TO SEE WHO MIGHT WIN. I THINK THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT RACE. I FEEL LIKE LAST CYCLE PEOPLE WERE VOTING WITH THEIR VALUES. EITHER TEAM HILLARY OR TEAM BERNIE. TEAM REVOLUTION OR TEAM STATUS QUO. THIS TIME PEOPLE ARE SO AFRAID THEY’RE DOING A WAIT AND SEE, LET’S SEE WHO CAN WIN. BERNIE HAS TAKEN HITS ON THE SOCIALISM THING, ON BEING TOO REVOLUTIONARY. IF YOU THINK THAT DOESN’T IMPACT VOTERS, ESPECIALLY VOTERS IN THE ERA OF TRUMP, IT REALLY DOES. ONE, HE SHOULD FEEL REALLY GOOD, TWO WINS COMING OUT OF IOWA, COMING OUT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE, VEG, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU’VE GOT THE VOTES SPREAD AGAINST SO MANY DIFFERENT CANDIDATES. I THINK HE IS THE ONE THAT HAS THE BASE GOING INTO NEVADA, HE HAS A GREAT BASE GOING INTO SOUTH CAROLINA, PROBABLY HAS THE BANDWIDTH GOING INTO SUPER TUESDAY TO CONTINUE TO STAY NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, THE CANDIDATE TO WATCH, AND HE SHOULD FEEL REALLY, REALLY GOOD TODAY. >>I SAT NEXT TO YOU DURING THE DEBATE. YOU HAVE A LARGE NETWORK OF PEOPLE TWEETING AT YOU, TEXTING YOU THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. WHAT ARE THEY TELLING YOU ABOUT THE RESULTS? ARE PEOPLE ALL IN ON THE PROGRESSIVE WING, ALL IN FOR SENATOR SANDERS? OR ARE THEY NOW LOOKING AT MAYOR PETE AND/OR SENATOR KLOBUCHAR? THE POLITICS ARE VERY DIFFERENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SENATOR KLOBUCHAR. HAVE THEY WEREN’T OFF SENATOR WARREN, OR IS IT TOO EARLY?>>IT’S EARLY. SENATOR WARREN HAS HAD A CONSISTENT MESSAGE. THIRD PLACE IN IOWA, I THINK THAT’S SOLID. I THINK THE EXPECTATIONS ARE REALLY, REALLY HIGH FOR HER COMING INTO NEW HAMPSHIRE. AMY KLOBUCHAR TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A MOMENT. SHE HAS NOT BEEN TESTED, REMEMBER THIS. ELIZABETH WARREN HAS BEEN ON THE TRAIL, SHE’S BUILT A NETWORK, SHE’S TALKED ABOUT INVESTING IN ALL OF THE STATES AND TERRITORIES GOING FORWARD. AMY KLOBUCHAR LITERALLY HAS TO BUILD AS SHE GOES, MEANING SHE HAS TO BUILD IN NEVADA. WE DON’T KNOW WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE SHE HAS IN SUPER TUESDAY STATES. SHE’S NOT YET BEEN TESTED. ELIZABETH WARREN GOT ON THAT HOT SEAT IN THAT DEBATE, TAKING FROM IT ALL SIDES. WE DON’T KNOW HOW AMY KLOBUCHAR IS GOING TO STAND UP TO THAT. SHE’S BEEN QUESTIONED ABOUT HER HISTORY AS A PROSECUTOR. WE KNOW WHAT THAT DID TO KAMALA HARRIS. WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT’S GOING TO DO TO AMY KLOBUCHAR WITHOUT HAVING THE SUPPORT OF BLACK WOMEN, BLACK VOTERS. SO WE WILL SEE. I THINK IT’S REALLY, REALLY EARLY. I THINK WE’RE GOING TO SEE SOME SURPRISES COMING OUT OF NEVADA. WE KNOW THAT SENATOR WARREN HAS A LOT OF SURROGATES IN BOTH STATES, IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. SHE’S BUILT A BASE OF SUPPORT WITH BLACK WOMEN THAT I THINK MAY COME THROUGH FOR HER IN THESE TWO STATES. OF COURSE SUPER TUESDAY. WE WILL SEE. I THINK THERE’S STILL A LOT OF ROAD TO GO. >>A LOT OF RACE, A LOT OF EXCITEMENT. YVETTE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO GO TO OUR CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, JONATHAN KARL, WITH MAYOR PETE AT THEIR WATCH PARTY. 30% OF THE VOTE LEFT OUT THERE, THEY’RE STILL COUNTING. JOHN, I WANT TO READ A STAT, GET YOUR REACTION ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THIS. COMING OUT OF IOWA, MAYOR PETE WON 21 OF THE 31 SWING COUNTIES. THE COUNTIES THAT VOTED FOR OBAMA AND THEN ENDED UP SWINGING TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. THAT’S AN IMPORTANT STAT AND A BIG NUMBER FOR SOMEBODY WHEN THEY’RE LOOKING AT ELECTABILITY. TONIGHT VOTERS LIKE IOWA SAID ELECTABILITY WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.>>ABSOLUTELY. ANOTHER BIG FACTOR IS VOTERS WHO THOUGHT HE COULD UNIFY THE COUNTRY. AND FINALLY, TOM, AND IT WAS FASCINATING TALKING TO FOLKS HERE AND GOING TO SEE BUTTIGIEG ON THE — GOING TO SEE BUTTIGIEG ON THE STUMP IN THE FINAL DAYS HERE. IS HOW MANY VOTERS DECIDED TO VOTE FOR HIM IN THE FINAL DAYS AFTER SEEING WHAT HAPPENED IN IOWA. THE RESULTS IN IOWA WERE MUDDLED. PERHAPS HE GOT ROBBED OF A CHANCE TO REALLY DECLARE VICTORY BECAUSE OF HOW THE RESULTS FAILED TO COME, AND STILL, WE STILL DON’T FINAL RESULTS. EVEN SO, HE CLEARLY GOT A BOOST BY BEATING EXPECTATIONS IN IOWA. YOU CAN TELL WE’RE GETTING FIRED UP HERE. THEY’RE WATCHING RESULTS COME IN. BUT SO MANY VOTERS THAT I SAW HAD BUTTIGIEG — COMING OUT TO SEE BUTTIGIEG HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE CAME TO SEE HIM, WERE STILL UNSURE ABOUT HIM, BUT WERE FASCINATED, WERE INTERESTED. THEY SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN IOWA. AND CLEARLY IN THESE FINAL DAYS A LOT OF THEM BECAME CONVINCED TO GET THIS — AGAIN, WE’LL SEE, THE RESULTS ARE STILL COMING IN THE VOTES FINALLY END UP HERE, HE’S HAD A VERY BIG NIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. >>YEAH, JOHN, THEY’RE PROBABLY CLAPPING NOT ONLY BECAUSE YOU’RE SPEAKING, BUT THEY’RE ALSO CLAPPING BECAUSE THE RESULTS THAT JUST CAME IN, THERE’S A 2% DIFFERENCE NOW BETWEEN SENATOR SANDERS AND MAYOR PETE. IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 5,000 VOTES, LESS THAN 5,000 VOTES RIGHT NOW. SO THAT IS PROMISING FOR MAYOR PETE. THAT’S PROBABLY WHY HE DIDN’T WANT TO WALK OUT YET.>>EXACTLY, TOM. AND IT’S FASCINATING BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS HE THIS UNLIKELY LEADING CANDIDATE, AGAIN, WHICH WE TALKED, THE MAYOR OF A SMALL CITY IN INDIANA, NOBODY KNEW HIM, THEY DIDN’T KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE HIS NAME WHEN HE GOT INTO THIS RACE. NOW HE’S HERE LESS THAN 2 POINTS AWAY FROM BERNIE SANDERS, WHO IS BASICALLY, THIS IS IN HIS BACKYARD. YOU KNOW, HE’S BEATING THE SENATOR FROM THE NEIGHBORING STATE AND ANOTHER SENATOR FROM THE OTHER NEIGHBORING STATE. NOT BEATING, HE’S BEATING ONE AND NARROWLY BEHIND THE OTHER. REALLY A REMARKABLE TURN OF EVENTS FOR THE FORMER MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND.>>RIGHT, JOHN. WHILE I HAVE YOU, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN ACTIVE ON TWITTER TONIGHT, AND HE WAS FOCUSING SOME OF HIS FIRE ON SENATOR WARREN, WHO DIDN’T HAVE OBVIOUSLY A GREAT NIGHT TONIGHT. A LOT OF DEMOCRATIC DROPOUTS TONIGHT. LET ME READ THE TWEET, I DON’T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT. A LOT OF DEMOCRATIC DROPOUTS TONIGHT, VERY LOW POLITICAL IQ. HE WENT ON TO SLAM SENATOR WARREN AS WELL. SO YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?>>WARREN IS A CANDIDATE THAT FOR A WHILE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN SEEMED TO FEAR THE MOST. YOU KNOW, THEY’VE GONE KIND OF — PEOPLE IN TRUMP’S ORBIT HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON WHO THE BIGGEST THREAT WOULD BE TO HIM IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. FOR A LONG TIME THE FEAR WAS JOE BIDEN. AS BIDEN SHOWED SOME WEAKNESS, THERE WAS A SENSE THAT WARREN COULD BE A REALLY FORMIDABLE CANDIDATE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. AND YOU KNOW, TRUMP OF COURSE USED THAT NICKNAME THAT HE USED, THE RACIALLY CHARGED NICKNAME THAT HE USED AGAINST ELIZABETH WARREN. BECAME A LITTLE BIT OF AN OBSESSION WITH HIM. I THINK THIS IS HIS WAY OF GETTING A FEW MORE HITS AT HER. WHO KNOWS, THIS RACE IS MORE MUDDLED THAN ANY PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN I’VE SEEN COMING OUT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. YOU’D THINK WARREN, A NIGHT LIKE THIS WOULD BE THE END FOR HER CAMPAIGN, BUT I’M NOT SURE OF ANYTHING ANYMORE.>>NO, I AGREE WITH YOU WE STILL HAVE THE BLOOMBERG FACTOR, SUPER TUESDAY, AND SO MANY MORE VOTES OUT THERE. JON KARL, GREAT TO HAVE YOU TONIGHT. NATE SILVER, ONE OF OUR GURUS, THE EDITOR-IN-CHIEF OF “538.” WHAT STOOD OUT SO FAR? I WANT NATE TO TALK OVER SOME OF THESE RESULTS HERE. NATE, WHAT’S THE BIG NUMBER SO FAR?>>THE NUMBERS, WE DON’T KNOW WHO’S GOING TO WIN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY YET. 2 POINTS IN OUR NUMBERS, IT JUST GOT VERY TIGHT. I MEAN, A 4-POINT LEAD VERSUS A 2-POINT LEAD IS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF CERTAINTY OF PREVAILING. SOME OF THE WEALTHY SUBURBAN COUNTIES, WHICH TEND TO BE GOOD FOR MAYOR PETE AND AMY KLOBUCHAR ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE YET TO REPORT, SO IT MAY STILL TIGHTEN FURTHER. I’M A BIG GUY, I LIKE PEOPLE TO WIN, RIGHT? WINNING IS IMPORTANT. I DON’T CARE AS MUCH ABOUT SECOND AND THIRD PLACE. A LOT OF IT IS SPIN. WINNING MATTERS. IT’S NOT CLEAR RIGHT NOW WHO’S GOING TO WIN THE PRIMARY TONIGHT. >>TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VOTES HERE. WE HAVE 69% IN. HEIDI WAS MAKING THE POINT SENATOR SANDERS, I THINK THE NUMBER WAS 150,000. TWO-PERSON RACE, OBVIOUSLY A DIFFERENT DYNAMIC THERE. BUT SHOULD SENATOR SANDERS BE WORRIED AT ALL? DO WE KNOW YET WHERE INDEPENDENTS BROKE?>>I MEAN, THERE ARE THINGS HIS CAMPAIGN SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT, I WOULD THINK. AS WE SAID, TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, HE’S NOT SOMEONE WHO’S NECESSARILY EXPANDING HIS COALITION BEYOND HIS BASE. THERE ARE A LOT OF CHOICES THAT VOTERS HAVE THIS YEAR BESIDES SENATOR SANDERS. YOU KNOW, THE GOOD NEWS FOR HIM IS THAT BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVES ARE SO MUDDLED, HE IS THE GUY WHO’S GOING TO BE — LET’S BE SAFE — FIRST OR SECOND IN THE FIRST TWO STATES. TIED AFTER THE FIRST TWO STATES. LEADING IN NATIONAL POLLS, IS PROBABLY A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR NEVADA. SO, YOU KNOW. SOMEONE HAS TO BE THE PERSON WHO WINS THESE STATES. BE HAPPY, NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT TURNING THE CORNER. NOBODY CAN BE TOTALLY HAPPY WITH THEIR POSITION IN THE RACE RIGHT NOW. EITHER YOU’RE PERFORMING TOWARD THE LOW END OF YOUR EXPECTATIONS, BERNIE. OR WAY BELOW YOUR EXPECTATIONS, BIDEN AND WARREN. OR SURGING FROM A LOW BASE WHERE IT MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU A TRUE 50-STATE CONTENDER. MAYBE MAYOR BLOOMBERG IS THINKING, OKAY, THIS IS PLAYING OUT IN A WAY I MIGHT HAVE LIKED. I’VE BEEN SKEPTICAL OF HIS CHANCES BUT YOU PROBABLY COULD NOT DRAW UP A MORE CONFUSING SCENARIO. STILL, BERNIE SANDERS IS MORE OR LESS, IF HE DOES WIN TONIGHT, HITTING HIS MARKS. HE’S NOT JUMPING WAY OUT IN FRONT OF THEM. BUT THE CAMPAIGN IS GOING THE WAY HE WOULD WANT AS FAR AS THE REST OF THE FIELD REMAINING VERY CROWDED AND MUDDLES. >>BOTH IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, VOTERS SAID ELECTABILITY WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN CHOOSING THEIR CANDIDATE. IN BOTH RACES SENATOR SANDERS IS FINISHING FIRST OR SECOND. IS BERNIE THE ELECTABLE CANDIDATE?>>I THINK WE’D DO A LOT BETTER IF WE TALKED ABOUT ELECTABILITY AS FAR AS WHAT’S YOUR CHANCE OF BEATING TRUMP?>>RIGHT. >>WHAT DOES BERNIE’S NUMBERS IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY TELL US ABOUT HIS CHANCES TO BEAT TRUMP? THAT TERM ELECTABILITY MAKES THINGS MUDDLED. IN THEORY YOU COULD BE A GOOD PRIMARY AND CAUCUS CANDIDATE AND NOT BE GOOD AGAINST TRUMP. THE TERM IS SO AMBIGUOUS, WE’D BE BETTER OFF CHOOSING MORE PRECISE TERMS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT. PEOPLE THINK IT MEANS TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT THINGS. SOME PEOPLE THINK YOU COULD ACTUALLY BE THE NOMINEE. PEOPLE WANT TO JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON, IF IT LOOKS LIKE BIDEN IS DEFLATING, IT CREATES A FEEDBACK LOOP AND MAKES MATTERS WORSE AND WORSE FOR BIDEN. STILL VOTERS ARE CONCERNED WHO CAN WIN AGAINST TRUMP, WHO’S LOOKING STRONGER THAN HE MIGHT HAVE WHEN THIS PRIMARY STARTED. >>ARE WE SEEING ANY KIND OF NUMBERS, CAN WE DESUES ANYTHING FROM STRATEGIES? EVERY CANDIDATE’S TALKING ABOUT TRUMP. WE SAW THE CANDIDATES GET A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE. SENATOR SANDERS GOING AFTER MAYOR PETE AND ANYBODY ELSE TAKING MONEY FROM BILLIONAIRES. MAYOR PETE ATTACKING SENATOR SANDERS. BIDEN WENT ON THE ATTACK AGAINST BOTH OF THEM. DIDN’T REALLY WORK FOR HIM. I MEAN, THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU SEE A LOT OF ATTACKS AGAINST SENATOR SANDERS AT SOME POINT? TO ME, IF HE WINS TONIGHT, THE FRONT-RUNNER, MAYBE A TANDEM FRONT-RUNNER. WOULD MAYOR BLOOMBERG, FOR EXAMPLE, SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON NEGATIVE ADS AGAINST BERNIE, POTENTIALLY? WHAT WILL JOE BIDEN SAY POSSIBLY? WHAT WOULD ELIZABETH WARREN DO IF SHE REMAINS IN THE RACE PAST SUPER TUESDAY? TO ME, THEY’RE ALL FIGHTING WITH ONE ANOTHER. YOU SAW, FOR EXAMPLE, AMY KLOBUCHAR AND MAYOR PETE FIGHTING IN THE DEBATE EARLIER THIS WEEK. THEY BOTH ARE DOING FAIRY WELL TONIGHT. YOU WOULD THINK YOU WOULD TURN YOUR FIRE AT SOME POINT ON THE CANDIDATE WHO IS LEADING IN THE POLLS. I THINK THAT BERNIE HAS BEEN UNDERESTIMATED BY OTHER DEMOCRATS. IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST VERSION OF BERNIE. HE IS NOT, LIKE I SAID, JUMPING WAY OVER ALL THESE HURDLES HE SET FOR HIMSELF. BUT EVEN THE KIND OF AVERAGE VERSION OF BERNIE IS STILL FINISHING ONE AND TWO IN THE FIRST TWO STATES, AHEAD IN THE NATIONAL POLLS, I THINK HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OVERLOOKED. >>THE SEPARATION RIGHT NOW JUST A LITTLE OVER 4,000 VOTES BETWEEN MAYOR PETE AND SENATOR SANDERS THERE. ALEX AND HEIDI, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS. THE REPUBLICANS WHEN THEY ATTACK SENATOR SANDERS, THEY SAY SOCIALIST, SOCIALIST. DON JR. WILL SAY COMMUNIST. THEY GO ALL IN. YOU DON’T REALLY HEAR DEMOCRATS ATTACKING SENATOR SANDERS SO MUCH AND USING THE WORD SOCIALIST. IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? BIDEN DID A LITTLE BIT. NOT A LOT OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES. >>I DON’T THINK THE PRESIDENT IS LIMITING HIS TERM SOCIALIST TO BERNIE. IN FACT, HE’S NOW SETTING THE STAGE FOR ALL THE BERNIE VOTERS TO FEEL LIKE THE SYSTEM’S RIGGED. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO THE PRESIDENT WOULD LIKE TO RUN AGAINST, TAKE A LOOK AT HOW HE’S TWEETING. AND WHO HE’S CRITICIZING AND WHO HE ISN’T CRITICIZING. WHO HE WOULD LIKE TO RUN AGAINST. TONIGHT DON JR. LITERALLY SAID, IF BERNIE’S THE NOMINEE, WE DON’T HAVE A WORRY IN THE WORLD. I THINK THAT’S WRONG BECAUSE NATIONAL POLLING WOULD SHOW YOU THAT ANY DEMOCRAT IN TERMS OF THE POPULAR VOTE CAN BEAT DONALD TRUMP. THE QUESTION IS, HOW WELL WILL BERNIE PERFORM IN THE SWING STATES? AND I THINK MIKE DAILY WARREN FOR EXAMPLE BELIEVES BERNIE CAN WIN MICHIGAN AT A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAN OTHER PLACES. >>PRESIDENT TRUMP IS PRESIDENT TRUMP. NOBODY,AL LERKS, INCLUDING A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE FOUR YEARS AGO, TOOK HIM SERIOUSLY. NATE, ON THAT POINT HEIDI WAS TALKING ABOUT, HOW DOES BERNIE STACK UP AS A NATIONAL CANDIDATE? WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THAT?>>SO HE WAS DOING THE SECOND BEST IN POLLS AGAINST TRUMP AFTER BIDEN. I THINK LOOKING AT BIDEN, IT IS EARLY, TOO EARLY FOR NATIONAL POLLS TO BE TERRIBLY PREDICTIVE. IN SOME SENSE, MAYBE IT WOULDN’T BE THE WORST THING FOR SANDERS TO FACE SOME NEGATIVE ADS FROM BLOOMBERG TO SEE HOW THOSE ATTACKS WOULD HOLD IN A GENERAL ELECTION ENVIRONMENT. BERNIE OBVIOUSLY HAS A VERY DIFFERENT THEORY OF THE CASE, A CASE ALL ABOUT TURNOUT, THAT OUR BASE IS LARGER THAN YOUR BASE. 99% ACTUALLY HAS MORE PEOPLE POWER IN A DEMOCRACY THAN THE 1%. SO IT’S A VERY DIFFERENT THEORY OF THE RACE THAN, SAY, SENATOR KLOBUCHAR WOULD HAVE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK? YOU LOOK AT CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY RATHER BE MODERATE AT THE RISK OF LOWER TURNOUT, ESPECIALLY IN MIDWESTERN SWING STATES –>>LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THAT –>>IF WE ASSUME THE RACE WILL BE JUST LIKE FOUR YEARS AGO AND YOU NEED TO HIT THAT HARD STRAIGHT WITH SWING VOTERS IN THE MIDWEST, AND THE ECONOMY, I KNOW WE CAN SLICE THIS A MILLION WAYS, IF THE ECONOMY IS PERCEIVED AS DOING WELL, CAN BERNIE WIN OVER THOSE VOTERS?>>THE PRIMARY IS A TEST OF THAT, RIGHT? HE’S GOING TO HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY DO BETTER THAN HE HAS DONE TONIGHT, EVEN THOUGH AGAIN, A WIN IS A WIN. HE’S GOING TO HAVE TO WIN STATES LIKE PENNSYLVANIA, FOR EXAMPLE. OHIO. MICHIGAN, WISCONSIN DOWN THE ROAD. BY TURNING OUT A BROAD, MORE DIVERSE COALITION IN INDUSTRIAL STATES, THEN HE’LL PROBABLY WIN IN THE PRIMARY. IF NOT, THEN HE WON’T. IT’S A QUESTION THAT ANSWERS ITSELF TO SOME DEGREE, AT LEAST.>>WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL POLLS, TAKING ON DONALD TRUMP, ALL THE CANDIDATES BASICALLY DO ABOUT THE SAME. WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE TRUMP IS REALLY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALLOT. YOU’RE EITHER FOR HIM OR AGAINST HIM. IT DOESN’T ALMOST MATTER WHO THE DEMOCRAT IS. THE ELECTABILITY ARGUMENT AND ALL OF THAT, MY EXPERIENCE IN CAMPAIGNS, YOU NEVER BUILD A CAMPAIGN ON ELECTABILITY BECAUSE VOTERS REALLY SEE THAT AS A LAGGING INDICATOR, NOT A LEADING INDICATOR. GUESS WHAT, THE CANDIDATE I LIKE, OTHER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIKE, SO HE’S GOING TO WIN. LEAVE THAT ALONE. BERNIE, IF I WERE A DEMOCRAT, I’D LEAVE BERNIE ALONE. BERNIE’S BIGGEST PLUS IS EVERYTHING AGAINST HIM IS DIVIDED. WORRY ABOUT CONSOLIDATING WHAT YOU’VE GOT. BLOOMBERG HAS GOT $2 BILLION BURNING A HOLE IN HIS POCKET, AND BASICALLY A NATIONAL ELECTION COMING UP, SUPER TUESDAY. IF DEMOCRATS DON’T START WORRYING ABOUT THAT, THEY’RE GOING TO GET A BIG SURPRISE. >>WE’LL TAKE A QUICK BREAK. JUST BEFORE THAT, I WANT TO PUT IN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW SO FAR. WHERE THE VOTES STAND. I THINK MORE THAN 72% OF THE VOTES IN. NATE SILVER, WHAT ARE WE WATCHING, THE COUNTIES AND CITIES WE’RE STILL WATCHING?>>BERNIE’S VOTE IS A BIT MORE LUMPY. HE DOES WELL IN COLLEGE TOWNS, UNION TOWNS, URBAN CENTERS. SUBURBAN, BUTTIGIEG MIGHT HAVE A SHOT. IT TENDS TO GET CLOSE WITH EACH UPDATE SO FAR. WE ARE NOW 71% OF THE VOTE REPORTED. SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT LESS ROOM THAN THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN BEFORE. IT’S MORE LIKELY THAN NOT TO TIGHTEN. MAYBE IT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE THING — FINALLY, NEW HAMPSHIRE, A RESULT, THERE MIGHT BE AMBIGUITY ABOUT WHO WINS, THERE’S AMBIGUITY ABOUT WILL THE RESULT COME IN ENOUGH FOR IT TO BE THE MORNING HEADLINE IN THE PAPERS IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA TOMORROW. SO THERE’S SOME REASON TO THINK IT WILL TIGHTEN. THAT SAID, YOU’D RATHER BE 4,000 VOTES AHEAD THAN BEHIND. >>THERE’S A COUPLE OF COLLEGE TOWNS, HANOVER AND DURHAM, THAT DON’T HAVE A LOT. THE SUBURBS ARE GOING TO BE STRONG FOR PETE. YOU CAN’T HANDICAP IT EXACTLY. THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT EDGE RIGHT NOW. IT’S HARDER TO MAKE OUT AS MORE VOTES COME IN. I THINK TO THE POINT ABOUT BERNIE WALKING AWAY WITH ANOTHER WIN, THAT SHOULD NOT BE UNDERESTIMATED IN ANY WAY. WINNING IS SOMETHING. HE GOT MORE VOTES IN IOWA, HE COULD GET MORE VOTES IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AS WELL. TO THE POINT WHAT WAS YOU DO ABOUT THAT, IF YOU’RE A DEMOCRAT, YOU’VE GOT A BUNCH OF CHOICES. JOE BIDEN IS GOING TO BE MAKING HIS PLAY, ELIZABETH WARREN WILL BE MAKING HER PLAY, TWO CANDIDATES WHO HAVE COME FAIRLY CLOSE, AND MICHAEL BLOOMBERG ON THE OTHER SIDE. THE PROBLEM MAY BE NOT THAT DEMOCRATS DON’T HAVE OPTIONS, THEY HAVE TOO MANY VOTES TO BLOCK BERNIE. >>AND THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY HELP BERNIE. A QUICK BREAK, “ABC NEWS LIVE.”>>>I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO MADE THIS POSSIBLE. MOST OF ALL THE PEOPLE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. LET ME TELL YOU, WE WORKED FOR MONTHS, WE WERE THE UNDERDOGS HERE, WE WERE BEHIND IN THE POLLS FOR 14 WEEKS. WE WERE OUTSPENT. BECAUSE OF YOU WE WERE NEVER OUTWORKED AND I THANK YOU. >>HERE NOW, LIVE FROM MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE, TOM LLAMAS.>>THAT WAS AL GORE IN 2000 NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY COMING OFF THE BIG WIN CREDITING HIS GROUND GAME AND THE HARD-WORKING VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF THAT HELPED HIM GET A VICTORY IN THE GRANITE STATE. JOINING ME, POLITICAL DIRECTOR RICK KLEIN. TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO WIN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE?>>IT’S DEFINITELY A GOOD THING, IT’S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS OFTEN REWARDED NEAR-STATE CANDIDATES AND THAT’S BEEN AN ASTERISK, PAUL TSONGAS WON BUT EVERYBODY THINKS BILL CLINTON DID. MICHAEL DUKAKIS WON, JOHN KERRY WON. IT HAPPENS TO NORTHEASTERN CANDIDATES. A BIT OF A CHECKERED HISTORY AS WELL. BARACK OBAMA COMING INTO NEW HAMPSHIRE IN 2008 WITH A HUGE HEAD OF STEAM. HE’D WON IOWA, A HUGE UPSET –>>POLLS SHOWED HE WAS GOING TO WIN. >>EVERYBODY THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO WIN. LIKEABLE ENOUGH AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON, AND HE ENDED UP LOSING THAT PRIMARY TO HILLARY CLINTON. THEN CREATED THAT VERY LONG CAMPAIGN. HILLARY CLINTON FLIPS IT AROUND A COUPLE OF CYCLES LATER WHEN SHE WINS IOWA, THEN LOSES TO BERNIE SANDERS HERE, IN A BLOWOUT. A 22-POINT ACROSS THE BOARD SWEEPING VICTORY THAT POINTED THE WAY FORWARD FOR A WHOLE LOT OF ACTION THAT WOULD LAST ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS ITS OWN IDIOSYNCRASIES. TO ME IT’S INSPIRING TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO SPEND SO MUST HAVE TIME TALKING TO VOTERS AND THEY DELIVER MIXED RESULTS. THEY CAN GIVE SOMEONE A TICKET. THE OTHER LESSON IS OFTEN, OR AT LEAST SOMETIMES, IT’S NOT THE WINNER THAT GETS THE BIGGEST BOOST, SOMETIMES IT INSPIRES A LOSER OR RIDE A WAVE OF MOMENTUM. IT COULD BE MORE THAN ONE TICKET THAT COMES OUT OF A STATE LIKE THAT. THREE CANDIDATES CLUSTERED IN 20s, YOU COULD BE TALKING ABOUT ARGUMENTS FOR THREE QUOTE-UNQUOTE WINNERS. >>SENATOR KLOBUCHAR LIKELY WILL BE THE SUBHEADLINE, A LOT OF PRESS COMING INTO THIRD PLACE. WE HAVE OUR NEW HAMPSHIRE POLITICAL EXPERT, IT’S TAKEN AWHILE, BUT WE FOUND YOU.>>I’M SO GLAD. TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY, COME TO MY HOUSE, WE HAVE THE AL GORE BATHROOM, THE JIMMY CARTER BEDROOM, THE BILL CLINTON LIVING ROOM, IT’S UNBELIEVABLE. MY HOUSE HAS ALWAYS BEEN OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO PRESIDENTS IN WAITING. >>MAYBE WE’LL JOIN YOU LATER FOR A DRINK, SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF VEGAS. YOU WERE AN EXPERT ON NEW HAMPSHIRE POLITICS, WHAT’S THE BIGGEST SURPRISE TONIGHT?>>AMY KLOBUCHAR HAS SIX LETTERS SHE HAS TO LOVE. ONE IS ABC. BECAUSE OF YOUR DEBATE. YOUR DEBATE WAS FABULOUS. AND SHE KNEW SHE COULD TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY THEN, AND SHE TOOK IT. YOU ONLY GAVE HER FOUR QUESTIONS. BUT SHE ACTUALLY TOOK AS MUCH TIME AS ELIZABETH WARREN, WHO HAD SEVEN QUESTIONS. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SHE KNEW HOW TO BUTT IN, USE HER ELBOWS, AND HER ENDING WAS PHENOMENAL. SO I MENTIONED ABC, THREE LETTERS. THE OTHER THREE LETTERS, FDR. THAT WAS THE LAST THING SHE TALKED ABOUT. WHEN HE DIED AND THIS MAN WAS CRYING AS THE TRAIN WAS GOING THROUGH. THEY LOOKED AT HIM DID YOU KNOW FDR? WHAT DID SHE SAY? NO, HE KNEW ME. SHE USED THAT LINE BY SAYING, I SEE YOU. I SEE YOU. THAT SO RESONATED. WHAT YOU GOT WITH HER WAS A SENSE OF POSSIBILITY, A SENSE OF TRUE GRIT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE IDEA WAS TO FOCUS ON FOLKS WHO REALLY NEED TO BE SEEN. THEY FEEL LIKE MOST OF THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES AND PRESIDENTS HAVE NOT SEEN THEM. >>AS WE PUT THE RESULTS THAT WE HAVE SO FAR UP ON THE SCREEN, 74% OF THE VOTE IN VERY, VERY RAZOR-THIN MARGIN BETWEEN MAYOR PETE AND BERNIE SANDERS. IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT LESS THAN 5,000 VOTES RIGHT NOW. IS THERE ENOUGH VOTE LEFT OUT THERE FOR MAYOR PETE TO COME IN? OR IS IT SENATOR SANDERS’ NIGHT?>>NO, IT COULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR MAYOR PETE. MAYOR PETE AND AMY. YOU’VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THIS, I KNOW SO MANY PEOPLE, YOU’RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS, BRILLIANT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SO FOCUSED ON PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS AND THEY SAID TO ME, I HAVE FOUR CANDIDATES. BERNIE, ELIZABETH, AMY, PETE. THIS WAS NOT ABOUT A LANE. SHOULD I TELL YOU ABOUT ME? I WALKED INTO THE VOTING BOOTH, AND I SAT THERE FOR FIVE MINUTES. NOT KNOWING WHAT I WOULD DO. AND I KNOW THEM ALL. AND I KNOW THE ISSUES ALL. AND I WAS TRYING TO THINK NOT ONLY ABOUT ELECTABILITY. WAS I GOING TO GO WITH MY HEAD, MY HEART? GIVEN THAT DONALD TRUMP IS SUCH — WE’VE NEVER EXPERIENCED ANYTHING LIKE HIM. WE DON’T KNOW WHAT ELECTABILITY MEANS. THAT’S WHAT’S SO FRIGHTENING. I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, BERNIE SANDERS HAS ALWAYS SAID HE’S GOING TO EXPAND THE BASE. IT DIDN’T HAPPEN IN IOWA. HE’S GOING TO EXPAND THE BASE. IT DIDN’T HAPPEN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE NEED TO BRING NEW PEOPLE IN. AND THIS IS THE TIME TO CULTIVATE THEM, NOT NOVEMBER, BUT NOW. AND THAT’S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR BERNIE. NOT TO WIN HERE. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT’S HIS ELECTABILITY LINE IS I CAN BRING IN NEW PEOPLE. WHERE ARE THEY?>>WHERE DO YOU THINK HIS VOTERS WENT, THE PEOPLE THAT STOOD WITH HIM IN 2016? DO YOU THINK THEY BROKE FOR AMY, FOR MAYOR PETE?>>I THINK THEY FELL IN LOVE WITH WARREN, THEY LOVED HER IDEAS. I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH ELIZABETH WARREN IS THAT SHE DOESN’T NECESSARILY HAVE THE POLITICAL SKILLS. SHE MAY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE A GREAT PRESIDENT, BUT WHAT YOU SAW HAPPEN WITH THE WHOLE MEDICARE FOR ALL THING, SHE DIDN’T HAVE THE RIGHT RESPONSE AT THE RIGHT TIME. THEN YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE DEBATE. SHE DISAPPEARED DURING THE DEBATE. AND THAT DEBATE WAS SO CRUCIAL. BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY UNDECIDED PEOPLE. THEY DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO DO. THEN THEY WATCHED DEBATE AND THE ONLY PERSON THAT ROSE ABOVE THE REST OF THEM WAS AMY. THEY SUDDENLY WENT, OKAY, I’LL TAKE HER. THAT WAS REALLY HOW IT WAS. WE ALL HAD FOUR DIFFERENT CHOICES AND WE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND WHAT YOU REALLY WANT IS SOMEONE WHO YOU THINK CAN RISE TO THE OCCASION. AND SHE ROSE AT THE RIGHT TIME. I THINK THAT’S REALLY IMPORTANT. TIMING IS EVERYTHING. THE PROBLEM FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR, SHE HAD NO ORGANIZATION IN IOWA. SHE HAD NO ORGANIZATION IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. SHE DIDN’T NEED IT IN IOWA, SHE CAME IN FIFTH, OKAY? SHE DOESN’T REALLY NEED IT HERE BECAUSE WE ALL CAME IN SO CONFUSED, AND THIS IS A PRIMARY, AND BECAUSE WE ALL HAD FOUR CHOICES, AND THAT PRIMARY, THAT DEBATE, WAS PHENOMENAL, AND I COMPLIMENT YOU AGAIN. THAT GAVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY. IF SHE HAD ORGANIZATION, SHE MIGHT BE SECOND. >>GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS HAS BEEN LISTENING, TOLD ME TO TELL YOU THANK YOU. HE ALSO WANTS TO COME OVER FOR DRINKS LATER. ARTY, YOUR INSIGHT HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL, SO STICK AROUND. I THINK RICK AND ME ARE GOING TO TAKE YOU UP ON THAT DRINK OFFER. THE LATEST REPORTING, THE LATEST VOTES COMING IN, 79%. ALMOST BREAKING 80%. SENATOR SANDERS IN THE LEAD. LESS THAN 5,000 VOTES SEPARATING MAYOR PETE AND BERNIE SANDERS. RACHEL SCOTT HAS COVERED A LOT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR US, ONE OF OUR ABC NEWS CORRESPONDENTS ON THE TRAIL. SHE’S AT SENATOR KLOBUCHAR WATCH PARTY WHICH ENDED EARLY TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO COME OUT THERE AND DECLARE VICTORY OF THE EXPECTATIONS GAME. TALK TO ME ABOUT SENATOR KLOBUCHAR AND WHAT YOU SAW AT LEAST IN THIS LAST WEEK OF HER CAMPAIGN.>>SHE MADE IT CLEAR TONIGHT THAT SHE IS HERE TO SHAKE UP THIS RACE. WHAT I FIND SO INTERESTING IS REALLY THE FINAL 48 HOURS BEFORE VOTERS HEADED TO THE POLLS. I TALKED TO ONE VOTER HERE TONIGHT WHO TOLD ME SHE MADE UP HER MIND WHEN SHE WAS INSIDE OF THAT BOOTH. SHE SAID SHE REALLY WANTED TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING FROM EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE THAT WAS ON THE BALLOT THERE. SHE WANTED A LITTLE BIT OF BIDEN, A LITTLE WARREN, A LITTLE SANDERS. IT CAME DOWN TO A FIGHT AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP AND ALSO A BATTLE FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS PARTY. WHEN SHE THOUGHT ABOUT WHO CAN POSSIBLY BEAT THE PRESIDENT, WHO CAN CONVINCE INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATE REPUBLICANS TO COME OVER SIDE, THE MESSAGE WAS CLEAR, THE CHOICE WAS CLEAR, IT WAS SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR. TONIGHT THAT IS SO MUCH OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE SENATOR ON THE STAGE TONIGHT. I AM REMINDED SO MUCH OF HER CAMPAIGN ANNOUNCEMENT, WHICH WAS A YEAR AGO YESTERDAY. I WAS THERE, I REMEMBER, IT WAS BRUTALLY COLD. SHE EVEN SAID SHE DIDN’T THINK SHE WAS GOING TO MAKE IT THROUGH THAT SPEECH, IT WAS SO COLD. SHE DIDN’T THINK SHE WAS GOING TO MAKE IT TO THE DEBATE STAGE, TO IOWA, TO NEW HAMPSHIRE. SHE SAID SHE’S DEFYING EXPECTATIONS. HER PITCH IS BRINGING IN FIRED-UP DEMOCRATS, INDEPENDENTS, MODERATE REPUBLICANS. SHE SAYS SHE HAS THE TRACK RECORD TO DO IT. SHE WON OVER 40 COUNTIES THAT VOTED FOR BOTH PRESIDENT TRUMP AND FOR HILLARY CLINTON. AND SO SHE SAYS SHE CAN DO THIS, SHE CAN CONVINCE REPUBLICANS TO COME OVER TO THIS SIDE AHEAD OF THE GENERAL ELECTION. SHE MADE HER CASE TONIGHT. THE QUESTION IS WILL THIS MOMENTUM CONTINUE? OBVIOUSLY THE STRONG DEBATE PERFORMANCE REALLY HAD A HEAVY HAND HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WILL IT CONTINUE AHEAD OF NEVADA?>>WE WILL SEE, NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. PHENOMENAL REPORTING, THANK YOU SO MUCH, WE APPRECIATE THAT. STEPHANIE RAMOS, SHE WAS AT THE SENATOR WARREN WATCH PARTY. I KNOW SENATOR WARREN DID INTERVIEWS, A HORRIBLE NIGHT FOR HER. SOMEBODY WHO’S IN A NEIGHBORING STATE, WHO HAS NAME RECOGNITION, WHO’S CAMPAIGNED SO HARD, WHO HAD THAT FIGHTER’S MESSAGE. WHAT WAS SHE SAYING? WHAT IS THE SORT OF AUTOPSY OF HER NEW HAMPSHIRE CAMPAIGN?>>BASICALLY SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN AND HER TEAM ARE SAYING THEY’RE GOING TO PUSH FORWARD REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBERS TONIGHT. THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO NEVADA, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND VIRGINIA. LOOKING FORWARD TO SUPER TUESDAY. SO A CLEAR SIGN THAT THEY ARE IN THIS FOR THE LONG HAUL. HER CAMPAIGN HAS TOLD ME THAT THEY’RE PLAYING THE LONG GAME. THEY’VE STRESSED TIME AND TIME AGAIN THIS IS A MARATHON, NOT A SPRINT. AND ALSO ON A NOTE, PRESIDENT TRUMP DID TWEET ABOUT ELIZABETH WARREN A LITTLE EARLIER, CALLING HER A DEROGATORY NAME ONCE AGAIN, MAKING FUN OF HER UNITY THEME. HER CAMPAIGN IS NOT FAZED BY THAT RESPONSE, THEY KIND OF EXPECTED IT. BUT AGAIN, THEY ARE PUSHING FORWARD. THEY SAY IN ORDER TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP THEY HAVE TO BE THE PARTY THAT SIGNIFIES UNITY. AND THAT IS THE MESSAGE SHE HAS TRIED TO STRESS TIME AND TIME AGAIN, ESPECIALLY THESE LAST FEW DAYS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. SHE ALSO HAS STRESSED THAT SHE’S REACHED OUT TO PAST CANDIDATES. CANDIDATES THAT HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE RACE. AND HAVE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT ADOPTING THEIR PLANS. WITH SENATOR KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND. SHE SAID SHE CALLED HER TO ADOPT HER FAMILY LEAVE PLAN. SHE CALLED SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS TO INCLUDE HER PLAN ON REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. SHE SAYS THAT’S WHAT THIS PARTY NEEDS, EVERYBODY TO COME TOGETHER IN ORDER TO WIN IN NOVEMBER. TOM?>>WHAT’S THE STRATEGY THERE, THOUGH? IS SHE STILL TRYING TO UNIFY THE PEOPLE WHO DROPPED OUT ALONG WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL IN THIS RACE?>>IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE STRATEGY IS TO PROVE TO VOTERS, TO PROVE TO SUPPORTERS, SHE HAS A PLAN. BY LISTING OFF WHAT SHE WANTS TO GET DONE IF SHE UNLESS THE WHITE HOUSE. SHE FEELS, HER CAMPAIGN FEELS AS THOUGH THAT’S GOING TO GET HER THE WIN, WHETHER IT’S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS OR WALL STREET CORRUPTION. THESE ARE THINGS SHE’S MENTIONED ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, HOPING THAT SHE CAN SHOW VOTERS THAT SHE’S NOT IN THIS ALONE, SHE’S GOT HER DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES WITH HER, AND SHE SAYS THAT’S WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NEEDS IN ORDER TO STAY IN THIS RACE, NOT DIVISION WITHIN THE PARTY WHICH SHE REFERENCES THE LAST ELECTION, SAYING THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016. SHE SAYS SHE DOESN’T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN, AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO STICK TOGETHER.>>YOU KNOW, STEPHANIE, I KNOW YOU ASKED HER ABOUT HER PERSONAL MESSAGE, HER MESSAGE GETTING MORE PERSONAL, TRYING TO SHARE HER LIFE WITH THE VOTERS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE HERE. SOMETIMES WHEN CANDIDATES DO THAT, IT IS COMPLETELY AUTHENTIC, IT COMES STRAIGHT FROM THE HEART. OTHER TIMES IT’S WHEN CANDIDATES ARE IN TROUBLE AND THEY’RE TRYING TO SEE WHATEVER WORKS. WHAT WAS YOUR SENSE? AND WHEN SHE SAID GETTING PERSONAL, WHAT EXACTLY DID SHE MEAN BY THAT?>>WE SAW HERE IN THE LAST FEW DAYS A LOT MORE PERSONAL STORIES. FOR INSTANCE, SHE’S TALKED ABOUT HER DECISION TO GO TO COLLEGE AND HER FAMILY’S REACTION WHEN SHE SAID SHE WAS GOING TO GO TO COLLEGE. SHE BROUGHT UP HER SENATE RACE FROM 2012 WHEN SHE WAS UP AGAINST INCUMBENT SCOTT BROWN. SHE CALLED THAT RACE PAINFUL, WHICH WAS SURPRISING TO A LOT OF US THAT WERE LISTENING TO IT. SHE SAID SHE WON, AND THAT’S THE MESSAGE THAT SHE WANTS TO GET ACROSS, THAT DESPITE THESE OBSTACLES THAT SHE’S FACED OVER THE YEARS THAT SHE’S SHARED THROUGH THESE PERSONAL STORIES, SHE’S BEEN ABLE TO WIN. IF SHE’S UP AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP, SHE SAYS, SHE CAN WIN. SO BY SHARING THESE PERSONAL STORIES SHE HOPES THAT SHE CAN GET ACROSS — THAT’S HER STAFF CHEERING, CHATTING WITH HER NEW HAMPSHIRE STAFF HERE. SHE’S HOPING THAT BY SHARING THESE PERSONAL STORIES AND PUTTING HER HEART OUT THERE, ASIDE FROM THE POLICIES, THAT SHE CAN GET A WIN.>>ALL RIGHT. STEPHANIE RAMOS FOR US TONIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. OME BACK TO HAMPSHIRE EXPERT, ARNIE. YOU SPOKE ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT. WHY DO YOU THINK SENATOR WARREN STUMBLED HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE?>>I WROTE DOWN SOME WORDS. YOU NEED TO BE ORGANIZED. GOOD POLICY. POLITICAL SKILLS. THAT’S WHAT SHE’S MISSING, SHE’S MISSING POLITICAL SKILLS. AND I’M GOING TO TELL YOU WHERE I BEGAN TO REALIZE THAT. WHEN SHE TALKED IN THE VERY BEGINNING, AND IT RESONATED, I’M A WONK. I HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT. I LOVED IT. AT SOME POINT IN TIME YOU HAVE TO PIVOT A LITTLE. WHY? I HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT. WHAT’S THE OPERATIVE WORD? “I.” WHAT YOU SAW WITH AMY KLOBUCHAR AT THE LAST DEBATE, SHE TALKED ABOUT, I SEE YOU. I SEE YOU. SHE BROUGHT PEOPLE IN. IT WASN’T THE “I,” IT WAS THE “YOU” THAT WAS IMPORTANT. WHEN ELIZABETH WARREN WAS, I HAVE A PLAN WITH YOU. I’LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I WANTED HER TO DO. I WANTED PEOPLE IN LOUISIANA, NORTH DAKOTA, TO HEAR HER TALKING, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE AD WOULD GO TO THEM AND THEY’D SAY, SHE HAS A PLAN FOR ME. SUDDENLY THEY’D REALIZE, THE PLAN RESONATED WITH THEM. THEY WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVES. SHE NEVER DID THAT PIVOT. WHEN SHE GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE MEDICARE FOR ALL, BECAUSE SHE WAS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO DO IT AND THEN SHE WAS GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH IT COST, SHE NEVER SAID, BERNIE, YOU WROTE THE DAMN PLAN, IT WILL TAKE FOUR YEARS UNDER YOUR MAN. THERE’S NO SWITCH. SHE NEVER FLIPPED IT ON HIM, USING HIS OWN DAMN PLAN. THAT’S A POLITICAL SKILL. THAT’S A SKILL THAT SHE’S MISSING. SHE’S EARNEST, SHE’S SMART, PEOPLE ADMIRE HER AND LOVE HER. BUT IN THE END, BECAUSE THIS IS THE ROUGH AND TUMBLE OF RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, NOT RUNNING FOR THE UNITED STATES SENATE IN MASSACHUSETTS WHERE IT’S ALREADY PREDISPOSED TO BE THE DEMOCRAT, THAT’S WHY SHE NEEDED TO GAIN THOSE SKILLS. EVEN WHAT SHE SAID TONIGHT MAKES NO SENSE. THIS IS NOT KUMBAYA, THAT’S NOT HOW WE DO THIS, AND I THINK THAT’S PART OF THE PROBLEM. I UNDERSTAND SHE BROUGHT IN CASTRO AND THAT WAS PROBABLY NOT A BAD THING. BUT NOW SHE’S LOOKING AT THE OTHER LOSERS AND SAYING, YOU WANT TO JOIN ME? WHAT DOES THAT GET YOU? IT’S NOT THE BEST LEADERSHIP SKILL SET. >>WE’LL HAVE TO SEE. MAYOR PETE HAS TAKEN THE STAGE AT HIS WATCH PARTY, LET’S TUNE IN. >>THANK YOU TO OUR EXTRAORDINARY NATIONAL COCHAIR, CONGRESSWOMAN ANNIE CUSTER, WHO KNOWS HOW TO RAISE THE ROOF AND HOW TO GET OUT THE VOTE. THANK YOU TO CHASTAIN, THE LOVE OF MY LIFE, WHO KEEPS ME GROUNDED AND MAKES ME WHOLE. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE MY COMPETITORS AND THEIR SUPPORTERS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. I ADMIRED SENATOR SANDERS WHEN I WAS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT. I RESPECT HIM GREATLY TO THIS DAY. I CONGRATULATE HIM ON HIS STRONG SHOWING TONIGHT. TEST. I CONGRATULATE SENATOR KLOBUCHAR, SENATOR WARREN, VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, ALL OF OUR DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES AND SUPPORTERS. I KNOW THAT WE ALL SHARE THE SPIRIT WE HEARD FROM SOME OF OUR VOLUNTEERS AT A POLL SITE EARLIER TODAY WHO WELCOMED A COMPETING CANDIDATE WITH CHANTS OF “VOTE BLUE WHO MATTER WHO.” WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM. OVER THE PAST YEAR, SOME TWO DOZEN CAMPAIGNS HAVE CRISSCROSSED THIS STATE, EACH LAYING CLAIM TO THE ABILITY TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, TURN OUT THE VOTE, AND MOVE AMERICANS TOWARD A BRIGHTER FUTURE. AND HERE IN A STATE THAT GOES BY THE MOTTO “LIVE FREE OR DIE,” YOU MADE UP YOUR OWN MINDS. YOU ASSERTED THAT FAMOUS INDEPENDENT STREAK. AND THANKS TO YOU, A CAMPAIGN THAT SOME SAID SHOULDN’T BE HERE AT ALL HAS SHOWN THAT WE ARE HERE TO STAY. SO MANY OF YOU, SO MANY OF YOU TURNED OUT. DIE-HARD DEMOCRATS. INDEPENDENTS UNWILLING TO STAY ON THE SIDELINES. AND EVEN SOME NEWLY FORMER REPUBLICANS READY TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING NEW. READY TO VOTE FOR A POLITICS DEFINED BY HOW MANY WE CALL IN, INSTEAD OF BY WHO WE PUSH OUT. SO MANY OF YOU CHOSE TO MEET A NEW ERA OF CHALLENGE WITH A NEW GENERATION OF LEADERSHIP. SO MANY OF YOU DECIDED THAT A MIDDLE-CLASS MAYOR AND A VETERAN FROM THE INDUSTRIAL MIDWEST WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE TO TAKE ON THIS PRESIDENT, NOT IN SPITE OF THAT EXPERIENCE, BUT BECAUSE OF IT. NOW OUR CAMPAIGN MOVES ON TO NEVADA, TO SOUTH CAROLINA. TO COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR COUNTRY. AND WE WILL WELCOME NEW ALLIES TO OUR MOVEMENT AT EVERY STEP. WE’LL GO FORWARD THANKS TO THE WORK OF OUR EXTRAORDINARY TEAM OF STAFF AND ORGANIZERS AND VOLUNTEERS. I MAY BE BIASSED ON THIS, BUT I’M ALSO RIGHT. WE HAVE THE FINEST TEAM IN POLITICS TODAY.>>WE’VE BEEN LISTENING TO MAYOR PETE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. THE VOTES ARE STILL COMING IN. MAYOR PETE IN A RAZOR-THIN FIGHT WITH SENATOR SANDERS, 4,000 VOTES SEPARATING THEM. MAYOR PETE OPTIMISTIC, READY TO HEAD TO NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. “ABC NEWS LIVE.” WE’LL TAKE A QUICK BREAK. THIS IS THE NEW HAMPSHIRE>>>THIS JUST IN, ABC NEWS REPORTING BERNIE SANDERS, ACCORDING TO A VOTE REPORTED VOTE RECORDED BY NEW HAMPSHIRE, HE IS THE SECOND WINNER TONIGHT FOR THE SECOND TIME IN FOUR YEARS, SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS WINNING THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. IT WAS VERY CLOSE WITH MAYOR BUTTIGIEG SEPARATED WITH 86% OF THE VOTE COMING IN, THAT COULD TIGHTEN MORE THAN THAT, SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS WITH A BIG WIN HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. HE WAS PROJECTED TO WIN. HE WON 60% OF THE VOTE FOUR YEARS AGO AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON, A MUCH DIFFERENT RACE, TWO CANDIDATES. LOOK AT HOW CLOSE WE ARE HERE. WINNING BY TWO PERCENTAGE POINTS. A WIN NONETHELESS, THE OTHER WIN, AMY KLOBUCHAR COMING IN AT THIRD PLACE, A HUGE SHOWING FOR SOMEONE HAVING TROUBLE A MONTH AGO, HAVING A BIG DEBATE PERFORMANCE, TAKING FIFTH PLACE IN IOWA, A DISAPPOINTING NIGHT FOR SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN AND JOE BIDEN IN THE SINGLE DIGITS. WE KNEW IT WAS GOING THIS WAY. WE WEREN’T SURE HOW MUCH HE WAS GOING TO WIN. HOW MUCH CAN WE TAKE AWAY FROM THIS WIN FOR BERNIE SANDERS?>>A WIN THE A WIN. BERNIE SANDERS WILL HAVE THE MOST VOTES IN IOWA, IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. IT’S POSSIBLE PETE BUTTIGIEG WILL HAVE MORE DELEGATES. HE GOT MORE IN IOWA. IT BASICALLY WILL BE TIED, MAYBE A TINY ADVANTAGE IN DELEGATES THERE, IN THIS INSTANCE TONIGHT, PEOPLE WILL SEE THIS WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT HEADLINES. WE WILL TALK ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS, HE DESERVES CREDIT. THAT A NARROW WIN, COMPARED TO THE FACT HE WON BY 22 POINTS, 26%, THAT’S THREE-QUARTERS OF THE DEMOCRATS, AND OEM KLOBUCHAR 20%, A BIG DEAL, SHE VAULTED FROM OUT OF THE CONVERSATION TO A TOP TIER CONTENDER STATUS. SHE DID IT ON THE STRENGTH OF THAT DEBATE THE OTHER NIGHT. SO THE ANTI-BERN FICANDIDATES ARE NOT COALESCING. IN FACT, THEY MAY BE GROWING. >>RICK KLEIN, I WANT TO BRING IN OUR PANEL NOW. FOR YOU, HEIDI, WHAT IS THE HEADLINE OUT TONIGHT. BERNIE SANDERS WON, YOU CAN’T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM HIM. A BIG NIGHT AND MAYOR PETE SHOWING SHE VIABLE. HE’S A COMPETITOR. >>I THINK THE HEADLINE IS THERE IS NO FRONT RETURN RIGHT NOW ON THE DEMOCRATIC RACE FOR THE NOMINATION. EVERYBODY’S PRETTY EQUAL. I THINK WE’RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS AND PARSING THEM. YOU HAVE THREE PEOPLE PRETTY EQUAL HERE. I THINK ON THE NEGATIVE SIDE FOR THE DEMOCRATS, NOT A BIG TURNOUT. NOT A PIG TURNOUT. YOU WOULD EXPECT A LOT OF ANGER. A LOT OF MOMENTUM. I THINK A PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THERE ISN’T A BIG COMPETITION. WE HAVEN’T SOON PEOPLE GOING AT IT SO THAT PEOPLE FEEL LIKE OH I GOT TO GO SUPPORTPY GUY. IT’S KIND OF LIKE A BUMPER STICKER I SAW. DEMOCRATS 2020. PEOPLE DON’T REALLY CARE WHICH ONE OF THESE WIN, BECAUSE THEY’RE GOING TO SUPPORT WHOEVER DOES.>>REPUBLICAN CONSULTANT WHAT ARE REPUBLICANS AND WHAT IS THE WHITE HOUSE THINKING TONIGHT?>>I THINK THE WHITE HOUSE IS DISAPPOINTED TONIGHT. I THINK THE WHITE HOUSE WOULD HAVE PRAYED FOR A STRONGER VICTORY FROM BERNIE SANDERS. IT’S AN EASIER PICTURE TO PAINT. I DON’T THINK THEY GOT THAT TONIGHT. INSTEAD THE TWO STORIES COMING OUT TONIGHT ARE ONE BERNIE SANDERS, THE LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DOESN’T REALLY HAVE HIS PARTY BEHIND HIM AND THE OTHER STORY LINE HERE IS THAT JOE BIDEN SEEMS TO BE GONE AND DEMOCRATS ARE SORTING OUT WHO IS GOING TO REPLACE HIM AND THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE CONTENDERS THERE NOW. THE PROCESS GOES ON. >>WE KEEP HEARING THE CHURCH BELLS WHEN JOE BIDEN’S NAME COMES UP. I WANT TO IF TO WHIT JOHNSON AT THE SENATOR SANDERS’ WATCH PARTY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHIT, GIVE MAE SENSE OF THAT LOOP TONIGHT. IT’S GOT TO BE ON FIRE. >>Reporter: THEY ARE FIRED UP, TOM. MORE THAN A THOUSAND PEOPLE INSIDE THIS GYMNASIUM. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT, IN FACT, BEAR WITH ME HERE, BERNIE SANDERS IS IN THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW. WE ARE TOLD HE IS GOING TO SPEAK IN JUST A MATTER OF MOMENTS. IT WAS INTERESTING, THOUGH, I WANT TO GO BACK A FEW MOMENTS AGO, WHEN MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG POPPED UP ON THE SCREEN HERE, PEOPLE IN THE CROWD STARTED BOOING HIM AND CHANTING WALL STREET PETE. SO THAT GOES TO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HERE THIS DIVIDE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BETWEEN THE SANDERS SUPPORTERS AND MORE MODERATE MEMBER, SUPPORTERS OF BUTTIGIEG AND BIDEN. HANG IN THERE WITH ME, TOM, FOR A SECOND, I THINK SANDERS MIGHT BE COMING OUT AT ANY AN IELL YO TO SOME OF HIS ADVISERS EARLIER TONIGHT. THEY SAID THEY WERE FEELING GOOD, VERY CONFIDENT. THEY LIKE THE MOMENTUM THEY GOT OUT OF IOWA. THEY LIKE WHAT THEY WERE SEEING IN THE GROUND GAME HERE. THEY KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE NECK AND NECK IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. REMEMBER EVEN THOUGH BUTTIGIEG GOT THE DELEGATE EDGE IN IOWA, SANDERS, HIMSELF, CLAIMED THAT THEY STILL WON THE SO-CALLED POPULAR VOTE THERE AND THEY WANT TO TAKE THESE WINS. THEY CONSIDER THEMSELVES — I’M GOING TO THROW IT BACK TO YOU FOR A MOMENT BECAUSE SANDERS IS WALKING OUT.>>ALL RIGHT. LET’S STAND BY AS WE AWAIT FOR SENATOR SANDERS TO TAKE THE STAGE. AT A VICTORIOUS PARTY. BUT YOU KNOW THE SENATOR SANDERS’ CAMPAIGN NOW, RICK KLEIN, I WANT TO ASK YOU THIS, THEY CAN LOWER THE BAR AND SAY THEY KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE NECK AND NECK. THAT’S NOT EXACTLY TRUE. THEY WERE FEELING VERY CONFIDENT. I SPOKE TO HIM YESTERDAY HE SAID THEY WERE FEELING GOOD INTEREST HE WILL WALK AWAY FROM THIS, THIS IS A SENTENCE ONGOING FOR A LONG TIME. THEY KNEW THIS WAS AP OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PUT AN EXCLAMATION POINT ON HIM LEAVING THE RACE AND ESTABLISH CLEAR FRONT RUNNER STATUS. I THINK SENATOR HYDE CAMP IS RIGHT. THERE IS NO FRONT RUNNER IN THE DEMOCRATIC RACE. THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE NECK AND NECK AND A COUPLE OTHERENING AT THEIR HEELS, FINDING ANGLES IN, THERE IS NO SENSE THERE IS AN END GAME FOR ANY OF THE CANDIDATES. YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THERE ARE FLAWS.>>THERE ARE FLAWS AND ASSUMPTIONS, THAT INCLUDES SENATOR SANDERS NOT WITHSTANDING A WIN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE THERE SENATOR SANDERS IS JOINED BY FAMILY. LET’S LISTEN IN. .>>THANK YOU. THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE! THANK YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE! LET ME — LET ME TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE PEOPLE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR A GREAT VICTORY TONIGHT! [ CHEERS ] AND LET ME THANK THE THOUSANDS OF VOLUNTEERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. THANK YO WHO KNOCKED ON DOORS IN THE RAIN AND THE SNOW AND THE COLD. THE REASON THAT WE WON TONIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, WE WON LAST WEEK IN IOWA IS BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK OF SO MANY VOLUNTEERS AND LET ME SAY TONIGHT THAT THIS VICTORY HERE IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR DONALD TRUMP. WITH VICTORIES BEHIND US POPULAR VOTE IN IOWA AND THE VICTORY HERE TONIGHT, WE’RE GOING TO NEVADA. WE’RE GOING TO SOUTH CAROLINA. WE’RE GOING TO WIN THOSE STATES AS WELL! AND TONIGHT I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION AND RESPECT FOR ALL OF THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES WE RAN AGAINST. PETE BUTTIGIEG, AMY KLOBUCHAR, ELIZABETH WARREN, JOE BIDEN AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY AND I KNOW I SPEAK FOR EVERY ONE OF THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES IS THAT NO MATTER WHO WINS AND WE CERTAINLY HOPE IT’S GOING TO BE US. WE’RE GOING TO UNITE TOGETHER. WE ARE GOING TO UNITE TOGETHER AND DEFEAT THE MOST DANGEROUS PRESIDENT IN THE MODERN HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY. AND THE REASON I BELIEVE WE ARE GOING NO WIN IS THAT WE HAVE AN UNPRECEDENTED GRASS ROOTS MOVEMENT FROM COAST TO COAST OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. THE REASON THAT WE ARE GOING TO WIN IS THAT WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER AN UNPRECEDENTED MULTI-GENERATIONAL, MULTI-RACIAL POLITICAL MOVEMENT. AND THIS IS A MOVEMENT FROM COAST TO COAST, WHICH IS DEMANDING THAT WE FINALLY HAVE AN ECONOMY AND A GOVERNMENT THAT WORKS FOR ALL OF US, NOT WEALTHY CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS. AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED AND CONTRIBUTED TO OUR CAMPAIGN BUT MAKE THE POINT THAT AT THIS POINT IN THE CAMPAIGN, WE ARE TAKING ON BILLION FAIRS AND WE’RE TAKING ON CANDIDATES FUNDED BY BILLIONAIRES. WHAT WE ARE GOING TO WIN BECAUSE WE HAVE THE AGENDA THAT SPEAKS TO THE NEEDS OF WORKING PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. HEALTHCARE IS A HUMAN RIGHT NOT A PRIVILEGE. THE WEALTHY AND POWERFUL WILL START PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES. WE WILL MAKE PUBLIC COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES TO RICH AND FREE AND CANCEL ALL STUDENT DEBT. UNLIKE DONALD TRUMP, WE KNOW THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS VERY REAL AND EXISTENTIAL CRISIS FOR OUR PLANET. WE ARE PREPARED TO TELL THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY THAT THEIR SHORT-TERM PROFITS ARE NOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE FUTURE OF OUR PLANET. WE ARE GOING TO END A RACIST AND BROKEN CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. WE ARE GOING TO PASS COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM. OUR GUN SAFETY POLICIES WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NOT THE NRA. AND UNDER OUR ADMINISTRATION, IT WILL BE WOMEN, NOT THE GOVERNMENT, WHO CONTROL THEIR OWN LIVES.>>WE HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS THE WINNER OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY TONIGHT DURING THIS ELECTION CYCLE IN 2020. BACK-TO-BACK VICTORIES FOR THE VERMONT SENATOR. I’M NOT SURE IF THAT’S A RECORD. RICK KLEIN, ANY IDEA? ANYBODY WIN BACK-TO-BACK IN TWO RACES WHERE THERE WASN’T AN INCUMBENT?>>I DON’T THINK IT’S HAPPENED. WHAT’S INTERESTING HERE IS HE WON BACK-TO-BACK IN MUCH DIFFERENT WAYS. THE FIRST TIME HE WINS HE SET A RECORD WITH NO INCUMBENTS WITH 60% OF THE VOTE. THIS TIME IT LOOKS LIKE HE WILL HAVE A RECORD LOW. IT’S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT VICTORY. YES, HE HAS THE SAME SUPPORTERS. HE WILL END UP WITH LESS THAN THE HALF THE SHARE VOTE. THERE IS A LOT MORE CANDIDATES. THIS IS NOT NEARLY AS HE WON FOUR YEARS AGO. >>I DON’T WANT TO SAY BERNIE IS YOUR CANDIDATE. HE’S A CANDIDATE YOU SUPPORT. A BIG VICTORY TONIGHT. MAKE NOT AS BIG AS HE WANTED IT. SORT OF RAZOR THIN. YOU CRUNCH THE NUMBERS DOWN. HE HAS THIS MESSAGE THAT HE WANTS TO UNIFY THE PARTY ABOUT 20 SECOND LATER, HE TAKES A SHOT AT MAYOR PETE. >>I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING THAT BERNIE SANDERS WANTS TO DO IS CLARIFY POLICIES. HE’S SAYING HERE IS WHO I AM, A CANDIDATE THAT DOES NOT SUPPORT BILLIONAIRES. MY OPPONENT SUPPORTS BILLIONAIRES. SO I THINK IT’S MORE POLICY DECISION. I THINK THE DIFFERENCE YOU SEE WITH SOME OF THE CANDIDATES WHEN THEY ATTACKED BERNIE SANDERS, SOMETIMES IT FEELS A LITTLE PERSONAL. THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT HIM BEING A SOCIALIST. THEY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. SO I THINK HE WILL ALWAYS CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE IN POLICY POSITION. THAT’S WHAT HE IS DOING. HE WANTS TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW CANDIDATE TRYING TO RIDE THIS MIDDLE LINE HASN’T BEEN REALLY CARE, I SUPPORT MEDICARE FOR ALL WHO WANT IT. HE’S REALLY REALLY DRAWING A DIFFERENCE HERE. HE IS SAYING HERE IS THE CANDIDATE I AM, I’M DIFFERENT FROM MY OPPONENT. HE IS NOT UNIFYING. HE SAID HE WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE. HE SAYS WHEN YOU GET ME, HERE’S WHAT YOU GET. WHEN YOU GET PETE BUTTIGIEG HERE’S WHAT YOU GET. DEFINITELY A GREAT WIN FOR SENATOR SANDERS TODAY I THINK THE MOMENTUM GOING INTO NEVADA WE HAS MORE DELEGATES THAN THE FIRST TWO STATES HAVE HAD AND OF COURSE SOUTH CAROLINA, WHICH HAVE EVEN MORE THAN THOSE THREE. SO WE’LL SEE HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT. I WOULD SAY THE HEADLINE IS ON TO NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA, BLACK AND BROWN VOTERS HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD.>>WRITING THE HEADLINES BEFORE THEY COME OUT.>>I’M HERE FOR IT.>>GREAT TO HAVE YOU TONIGHT, YVETTE, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. WHAT IS YOUR TAKE AWAY HERE? IT WAS A GREAT POINT THAT BERNIE SANDERS HAD A HUGE WIN FOUR YEARS AGO. BARELY BARELY EDGES OUT MAYOR PETE THIS TIME AROUND.>>I, WELL, FIRST I THINK THE LOSER IS CERTAINTY. THIS THING IS EVEN MORE JUMBLED TODAY THAN IT WAS YESTERDAY WITH SENATOR KLOBUCHAR HAVING A BOOST OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE MOMENTUM. CERTAINLY VOTES NOT EXPECTED. I THINK SENATOR SANDERS WON. DEFINITELY WON. YOU CAN’T TAKE AWAY A WIN FROM SOMEBODY WHO GETS THE MOST NUMBER OF VOTES. RICK IS RIGHT, THIS IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN IN 2016 TO GET THREE OUT OF EVERY FOUR VOTERS TO NOT VOTE FOR YOU, SUGGESTS THERE IS A LOT OF WORK HE HAS TO DO TO BUILD THIS COALITION. BUT I THINK WE BASICALLY HAVE A FIVE-WAY RACE RIGHT NOW. SENATOR SANDERS IS THE FAVORITE, CERTAINLY NOT THE OVERWHELMING FAVORITE. I THINK YVETTE IS RIGHT, ON TO SOUTH CAROLINA AND ON TO SUPER TUESDAY IN MARCH WHERE THIS WILL GET DECIDED.>>OUR TEAM IS FANNED OUT ALL ACROSS THE STATE AND IN SOUTH CAROLINA. I WANT TO START WITH WHIT JOHNSON, SHE AT THE SANDERS WATCH PARTY TONIGHT THAT ROOM WAS ON FIRE BEFORE SENATOR SANDERS TOOK THE STAGE. IT WAS INTERESTING. I WANT TO GET A BETTER SENSE FROM YOU ON THIS. HE SAYS HE WILL UNIFY THE PARTY. 20 SECONDS LATER HE TAKES A SHOT AT MAYOR PETE FROM TAKING MONEY FROM BILLIONAIRES.>>Reporter: AND THAT’S IT, A FASCINATING PART OF THE LAST WEEK-AND-A-HALF OR SO WHERE WE’VE SEEN THE CANDIDATES ALL IN UNISON ESSENTIALLY SAY THAT THEY WILL UNITE TOGETHER WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO BEATING DONALD TRUMP. BUT YET, THIS WEEK THEY HAVE BEEN TAKING SHOTS BACK AND FORTH. HE HAS BEEN GOING AFTER MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG REPEATEDLY FOR HAVING 40 BILLIONAIRES CONTRIBUTE TO HIS CAMPAIGN AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHEN MAYOR PETE CAME UP ON THE STAGE HERE GIVING HIS SPEECH EARLIER IN THE EVENING. PEOPLE WERE CALLING HIM WALL STREET PETE SO THERE IS CERTAINLY A DIVIDE WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND WITHIN THE VOTERS. WE HEARD THAT FROM VOTERS HERE. BUT WHEN YOU ASK THEM DIRECTLY, WILL YOU COME TOGETHER AND PICK A CANDIDATE TO DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP? MOST OF THEM SAY YES. ABSOLUTELY, YOU ARE SEEING THAT DIVIDE. I WANT TO MENTION ONE OTHER THING BERNIE SANDERS SAID HERE THAT GOT A ROAR FROM THE CROWD, THAT’S THIS VICTORY HERE IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR DONALD TRUMP.>>THAT THE CROWD WENT ABSOLUTELY WILD. WE COULD HEAR, FEEL SOME SHAKING ON THE FLOOR OF THE GYMNASIUM HERE. BUT IF YOU TAKE A STEP BACK FROM ALL THIS, LOOK AT A BIG PICTURE. IT REALLY IS A REMARKABLE COMEBACK STORY SO TO SPEAK FOR BERNIE SANDERS. IF YOU GO BACK TO OCTOBER, HE HAD THAT HEART ATTACK. HEF HAD TWO STINTS PUT INTO HIS HEART TO REPAIR A BLOCKED ARTERY. DAYS LATER HE WAS IN VERMONT KNOCKING HOME RUNS OFF OF JOHN WHO WAS PITCHING. SYRIANS THEN, HE’S HAD A STEADY RISE IN THE POLLS AND THEY HAVE BEEN FEELING GREAT ABOUT THE MOMENTUM THEY’VE SEEN ABOUT THE GROUND GAME AND, ONCE AGAIN, HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, 700,000 DOORS. THEY HAVE BEEN COUNTING THE VOLUNTEERS, KNOCKING ON ALL OF THOSE DOORS. THAT’S MORE PEOPLE BY THE WAY THAN THE NUMBER OF REGISTERED DEMOCRATS AND UNDECLARED VOTERS COMBINED. BUT THEY’RE ALREADY LOOKING LONG TERM, LOOKING TOWARDS SUPER TUESDAY, BERNIE SANDERS WILL BE IN NORTH CAROLINA ON FRIDAY. HE’LL THEN GO TO TEXAS. THEN HE’S GOING TO NEVADA. THEY MADE $25 MILLION IN FUNDRAISING IN JANUARY. THEY’RE ALREADY SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON TV ADS AND HIRING STAFF IN THOSE SUPER TUESDAY STATES IN COLORADO AND CALIFORNIA AS WELL. SO THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD. THEY KNOW IT’S A CLOSE RACE, BUT THEY LIKE WHERE THEY ARE AND THE MOMENTUM THEY’RE SEEING. TOM.>>YEAH, IT IS A GREAT POINT THAT HE SURVIVES A HEART ATTACK NOW HE WINS THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. THERE WAS A TIME A HEART ATTACK WOULD TAKE YOU OUT OF THE RACE COMPLETELY. WHIT JOHNSON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPORTING. I WANT TO GO TO OUR CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT JOHN CARL. HE’S AT THE MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG WATCH PARTY. THEY WERE CATCH WATCHING. JOHN, I WANT YOU TO LOOK BIG PICTURE RIGHT NOW WHEN WE THINK ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO THIS RACE GOT SO NASTY BETWEEN THE REPUBLICANS AND REALLY BETWEEN HILLARY CLINTON AND BERNIE SANDERS, TOO, DO YOU THINK WITH SO MANY CANDIDATES SO CLOSE IT’S GOING TO START TO GET A LITTLE MORE VICIOUS, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE?>>Reporter: NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. IT’S STRIKING TO HEAR WHIT TALK ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS TAKING SOME SHOTS TONIGHT, SOME PRETTY STRONG SHOTS AT PETE BUTTIGIEG. HERE BUTTIGIEG, THIS WAS MOSTLY A CELEBRATION. HE ACTUALLY CONGRATULATED BERNIE SANDERS ON A STRONG SHOWING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. NOT A VICTORY, TOM. HE DIDN’T SAY THAT HE HAD A STRONG SHOWING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND HE TALKED ABOUT UNITY. HE TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS MUST BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF DONALD TRUMP. BUT HE DID TAKE A COUPLE KIND OF GLANCING BLOWS ON BERNIE SANDERS, INCLUDING THIS LINE THAT HE HAS BEEN USING A LOT. HE SAID, WE CANNOT DEFEAT THE MOST DIVISIVE PRESIDENT IN MODERN AMERICAN HISTORY BY ALIENATING ANYBODY WHO WAS NOT IN 100, BY TEARING DOWN ANYBODY NOT 100% IN AGREEMENT WITH US. SO THAT WHOLE THEME OF HIS THAT YOU KNOW ON ONE SIDE HAVE YOU PEOPLE CALLING FOR REVOLUTION. ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE CALLING FOR THE STATUS QUO. WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE THE REST OF US? THAT’S THE CAMPAIGN THAT PETE BUTTIGIEG IS RUNNING, IT’S NOT A SHARP ELBOW. NO SHARP ELBOW ATTACKS ON BERNIE SANDERS. THE STRONGEST ATTACKS AIMS STILL AT DONALD TRUMP, MAN, COMPARED TO THE CAMPAIGN THAT WE COVERED FOUR YEARS AGO, TOM, IT SURE ALL SEEMS PRETTY MILD.>>JOHN, IS THERE A THEORY AMONGST THE PRESS CORPS THAT COVERS THE PRESIDENT DAY IN DAY OUT? WHY THE PRESIDENT HADN’T TARGETED MAYOR PETE REALLY AT ALL BESIDE MAKING FUN OF HIS NAME?>>Reporter: THAT’S ALL IT DOES, ACTUALLY THERE WAS ANOTHER TWEET A SHORT WHILE AGO FROM THE PRESIDENT WHERE HE AGAIN MADE FUN OF HIS NAME AND SAID HE’S, YOU KNOW, HE’S DRIVING CRAZY BERNIE NUTS. VERY INTERESTING.>>YOU KNOW, THERE ISN’T A WORKING THEORY OF THE CASE. IT JUST SEEMS THAT HE HASN’T REALLY GOTTEN ON THE PRESIDENT’S RADAR YET, HASN’T GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE HE FEELS THAT THE MAYOR, THE FORMER MAYOR NOW IS A THREAT TO HIM. BUT I CAN BET YOU AFTER TONIGHT WE’LL BE HEARING MORE FROM DONALD TRUMP TARGETING PETE BUTTIGIEG. BY THE WAY, HIS CAMPAIGN JUST TOLD US THAT HIS WEBSITE BY FAR HAS HAD A MORE TRAFFIC IN THESE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS HERE THAN THEY’VE HAD THE REST OF THE CAMPAIGN. THIS IS CLEARLY A HUGE MOMENT. HE MAY LEAVE HERE WITHOUT THE VICTORY, BUT HE’S SO CLOSE THAT WHEN YOU COMBINE THE NUMBER OF DELEGATES THAT HE WON IN IOWA, YOU KNOW WINNING BY 2, SO A CLOSE RACE HERE. HE MAY END THE NIGHT STILL AS THE LEADING CANDIDATE, AT LEAST BY THOSE DELEGATE COUNTS. THEY’RE STILL SMALL, BUT THE LEADING CANDIDATE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION. WHICH IS JUST KIND OF AN UNBELIEVABLE THING CONSIDERING AGAIN HOW OBSCURE HE WAS WHEN HE GOT INTO THIS RACE.>>THE MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA, FORMER MAYOR, JOHN CHARM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPORTING. WE APPRECIATE IT. . WE WANT TO GO TO COLOMBIA, SOUTH CAROLINA, THAT’S WHERE ONE OF OUR REPORTERS HAS BEEN CAMPED OUT ALL NIGHT. HE COVERS THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN AND BIDEN HAD AN EARLY EXIT OUT OF THIS STATE NOW TONIGHT EVA WITH THE RESULTS, WE KNOW WHY, A SINGLE DIGIT SHOWING FOR A FORMER VICE PRESIDENT HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TONIGHT.>>YEAH,’S T EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AND JOE BIDEN, THEY CAME HERE TO SOUTH CAROLINA. HE OPENED UP HIS SPEECH TO THIS PACKED PLACE SAYING, IT AIN’T OVER, MAN. TELLING THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE AUTOMATIC TALKING HEADS ON TV THAT THIS FIGHT ISN’T OVER FOR JOE BIDEN. HE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST TWO STATES, THOSE TWO STATES DON’T HAVE A LOT OF DIVERSITY IN THE VOTING POPULATION AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE SAID THAT SOUTH CAROLINA SUPER TUESDAY STATES, THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE ROAD TO THE NOMINATION FOR JOE BIDEN. THEY MADE A STRATEGY MOVE. THEY TOOK A GAMBLE. THEY ARE GAMBLING PLAYING THE DELICATE MATH GAME HOPING IF THEY FOCUS IN THE AREAS HE IS STRONG IN, THAT THOSE PEOPLE WILL TURN OUT TO VOTE FOR HIM AND HE DOES WELL HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. THE VOTERS HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA KNOW HIM. IT WAS INTERESTING BEING HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE HE DID NOT WELL IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TODAY. YOU WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THIS EVENT TO HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE SOMBER. IT WAS A PARTY. PEOPLE WERE DANCING. THIS WAS THE MOST DIVERSE CROWD BOTH IN COLOR AND IN AGE THAT I HAVE SEEN OUT OF JOE BIDEN EVENT. YET, THERE WAS A GOSPEL CHOIR AT THE BEGINNING. PEOPLE WERE LIGHT. THEY WERE HAVING FUN. THERE WERE CHILDREN RUNNING AROUND. IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT FEEL, A VERY DIFFERENT FEEL FROM THE SPEECH HE GAVE YOU TO THESE PEOPLE TONIGHT AND THAT WAS I THINK THAT WAS A PART OF WHY HE CAME HERE TO SOUTH CAROLINA. AT ONE POINT HE SAID I LOVE SOUTH CLOIMPBLT I HOPE YOU SOUTH CAROLINA LOVE ME — I LOVE SOUTH CAROLINA, I HOPE YOU, SOUTH CAROLINA, LOVE ME BACK. HIS CAMPAIGN KNOWS SOUTH CAROLINA IS IMPORTANT. THEY’RE NOT SAYING IT’S DO OR DIE. BUT HE HAS TO WIN HERE. YOU REALLY CAN’T IMAGINE A ROAD THROUGH TO SUPER TUESDAY IF HE DOESN’T WIN HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA STATE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING SINCE THE BEGINNING, TOM, THAT THEY WERE COUNTING ON.>>EVA WITH SOME KEEN OBSERVATIONS TONIGHT FROM THE VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, EVENT THERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND RICK KLEIN, I GO TO YOU, OUR POLITICAL DIRECTOR. I THINK JOE BIDEN DID THE BEST THING HE CAN DO WHICH IS TURN THE PAGE ON NEW HAMPSHIRE EARLY. HE CHOREOGRAPHED, ENERGY WAS UP. SHE’S RIGHT. SOUTH CAROLINA IS GOING TO BE A MAKE OR BREAK.>>AND HIS PRESENCE OR LACK THEREOF RIGHT NOW ATOP THE FIELD THAT CREATES A HUGE HOLE, IT’S NOT CLEAR, HAVING A CLEAR WINNER TONIGHT, IT DOES NOT MAKE FOR A CLEAN RACE. WE HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT PATHS. ALL THESE DIFFERENT CANDIDATES. FIVE CANDIDATES, PLUS MICHAEL BLOOMBERG AT SOME POINT LAPTER ON, JOE BIDEN HAS CREATED AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO A SENSE OF PANIC AMONG MANY DEMOCRATS. THEY DON’T KNOW THEIR WAY OUT OF THIS REALLY THE CENTRAL FIGURE FROM THE RACE FROM THE MOMENT HE GOT IN IS ON THE ROPES. HE IS FADING. IF HE DOESN’T COME BACK IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THE CHANCE IS HE WILL BE OVER.>>STILL AN EARLY RACE, A LOT OF DELEGATES AT PLAY. I WILL START WITH YOU, THE ONE THING ARE YOU WATCHING AS WE GO TO NEVADA.>>YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE, YOU WILL NOT EXPECT THIS, TOM STEYER HAS BEEN IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA QUIETLY DOING WHAT MIKE BLOOMBERG HAS BEEN DOING IN SUPER TUESDAY STATES. HE HAS HAD THE AIR WAVES TO HIMSELF. WE HAVEN’T SEEN A LOT OF POLLING. I THINK THERE MAY BE YET ANOTHER CONTENDER IN NEVADA AFTER THAT AND SO I THINK HE WILL BE SOMEBODY TO WATCH. HE IS SHOWING STRENGTH IN SOUTH CAROLINA. >>ALEX.>>TWO THINGS. ONE THE NEW HAMPSHIRE APP WORKS A LOT BETTER THAN THE IOWA APP. I WILL BE WATCHING AMY KLOBUCHAR, SHE WILL BE IN THE HEADLINE. SO FAR SHE IS PASSING THE TEST.>>THE BIG WINNER TONIGHT IS MIKE BLOOMBERG BECAUSE THE LONGER THIS GOES WITHOUT AN APPARENT NOMINEE, THE MORE OPPORTUNITY THERE IS FOR HIM TO BE A REAL PLAYER IN SUPER TUESDAY AND SO, NO ONE COMES OUT OF THIS WITH A BIG MOMENTUM YOEVENLTH AMY COMES OUT OF IT WITH A LOT OF CURIOSITY. CAN SHE TAKE THAT NEXT STEP OR AS MATT SAID, IN ANOTHER YEAR. I THINK MIKE BLOOMBERG HAS TO BE HAPPY BECAUSE NO WITHIN EMERGED AS A PRESUMPTIVE HEAD OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY READY TO TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP.>>THE LAST MAN STANDING IN THE FIELD, WHIT JOHNSON, WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT AS WE HEAD INTO NEVADA?>>Reporter:.>>WHIT, YOUR LAST THOUGHT AS WE HEAD INTO NEVADA AS WE RUN OUT OF TIME HERE? ALL RIGHT. A MAN OF A FEW WORD. SOMETIMES LESS IS MORE. AT LEAST THE FACT THAT THEY ARE THERE WITH THE ISP. BUT WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. A HUGE NIGHT OF POLITICS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. BERNIE SANDERS, THE WINNER TONIGHT. A RAZOR THIN VICTORY COMING AHEAD OF MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG TONIGHT AND SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR IN THIRD PLACE COMING OUT OF NOWHERE, A STRONG PERFORMANCE IN THAT ABC NEWS DEBATE. SO MANY VOTERS SAYING THAT DEBATE MATTERS. HERE ARE THE RESULTS WE HAVE WITH 90% OF THE EXPECTED VOTE COMING IN. THIS IS A WIDE OPENED RACE. STILL A LOT OF POLITICS. A LOT OF CAMPAIGNING LEFT TO DO. NEVADA, SOUTH CAROLINA AND OF COURSE SUPER TUESDAY, WHICH WILL BE A HUGE NIGHT HERE. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. FOR EVERYBODY ON OUR PANEL. FOR ALL OF OUR TEAMS OUT IN THE FIELD, FOR ALL OF THE CREW AND THE STAFF WORKING ON THIS MAJOR PROJECT FOR US IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE’LL SEE YOU AGAIN. .>>THANK YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE. THANK YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE. >>YOU KNOW I AM THE MATH GUY AND IT IS CLEAR TONIGHT FROM THE NUMBERS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING WIN THIS RACE.>>WE ARE STANDING HERE TONIGHT STRONG, RESILIENT AND EVER COMMITTED TO OUR CAUSE. >>WE JUST MARRIED FROM THE FIRST TWO OF 50 STATE. WHERE I COME FROM — >>I WANT TO CONGRATULATE MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE AMY KLOBUCHAR FOR SHOWING HOW WRONG THE PUNDITS CAN BE WHEN THEY COUNT A WOMAN OUT.>>AS EVERYONE HAS COUNTED US OUT, EVEN A WEEK AGO, THANK YOU FOR THIS. I CAME BACK AND WE DELIVERED.>>AND HERE IN A STATE THAT GOES BY THE MOTTO LIVE FREE OR DIE, YOU MADE UP YOUR OWN MINDS.>>THE REASON THAT WE WON TONIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, WE WON LAST WEEK IN IOWA, IS BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK OF SO MANY VOLUNTEERS AND LET ME SAY TONIGHT THAT THIS VICTORY HERE IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR DONALD TRUMP.>>THANK ALL OF YOU. WE ARE SO EXCITED. WE’RE GOING TO TAKE THIS SHOW ON THE ROAD.>>THE DONALD TRUMP TRAGEDY IS JUST BEGINNING. JUST BEGINNING.>>WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY AND I KNOW I SPEAK FOR EVERY ONE OF THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES IS THAT NO MATTER WHO WINS, WE CERTAINLY HOPE IT’S GOING TO BE US. WE ARE GOING TO UNITE TOGETHER. WE ARE GOING TO UNITE TOGETHER AND DEFEAT THE MOST DANGEROUS PRESIDENT IN THE MODERN HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY.

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