Behind the Headlines – October 4, 2019

Behind the Headlines – October 4, 2019


>>PRODUCTION BEHIND FUNDING
FOR “BEHIND THE HEADLINES” IS MADE IN — MADE POSSIBLE BY
THE KWNO ENDOWMENT FUND, AND BY VIEWERS LIKE YOU, THANK
YOU.>>STRICKLAND SECOND TERM,
THE IMPACT OF THE SALES TAX REFERENDUM, AND MORE ELECTION
OUTCOMES, TONIGHT, ON “BEHIND THE HEADLINES.”>>CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY
CAPTION ASSOCIATES, LLC WWW.CAPTIONASSOCIATES.COM.>>
>>I’M ERIC BARNES WITH THE DAILY MEMMAN, THANK YOU FOR
JOINING US, I’M JOINED BY A COUPLE OF JOURNALISTS TO TALK
ABOUT THE ELECTION OUTCOMES, KARANJA AJANAKU, EDITOR,
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, AND BILL DRIES, REPORTER, WITH
THE DAILY MEMPHIAN, WHO I BELIEVE WENT TO BED LIKE TWO
HOURS AGO! IF I’M NOT MISTAKEN. AS WE TAPE THIS FRIDAY
MORNING. OBVIOUSLY WE WILL START WITH
THE MAYOR’S RACE. IT WASN’T EVEN CLOSE, BILL,
NOT AT ALL.>>THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD
CALL AN OUT OF THE BOX VICTORY, AS SOON AS THE EARLY
VOTES CAME IN AND THE INCUMBENT, JIM STRICKLAND,
RACKED UP 33,000 VOTES THERE IN THE EARLY VOTE, THIS IS
OUT OF AN EARLY VOTE TURNOUT OF APPROXIMATELY 52,000, TO
GET 33,000 VOTES OUT OF THAT. IT WAS OVER.>>YEAH.>>AND WE HAVE THE NUMBERS,
KARANJA AJANAKU RANJA, YOUR THOUGHTS WOULD BE HE —
HERENTON, 2-1, THAT I THINK SURPRISED ME ON SOME LEVEL
BUT EVEN MORE SURPRISING FOR ME, WAS THAT HE BEAT TAMI
SAWYER, COUNTY COMMISSIONER ALMOST 10-1. SHE WAS BARELY 6500, 600
VOTES, SHE WAS AT SIX ON — HE WAS AT 60,000 VOTES GIVE
OR TAKE. YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE OVERALL
OUTCOME AND SO ON?>>I DIDN’T FIND IT AS
SURPRISING AS YOU DID. I MEAN, VOTERS OBVIOUSLY
DECIDED TO KEEP GOING WITH THE STATUS QUO, AND HOW YOU
VIEW THAT STATUS QUO IS HOW THEY PULLED THE LEVER THERE. I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
MAYOR’S RACE AND EVEN LOOK DOWN THROUGH THE CITY
COUNCIL, RECORD BATTERS BUT — RECORD MATTERS BUT
RESOURCES MATTER, INCUMBENCY MATTERS AND STRICKLAND DID A
GOOD JOB JUST BEING THE MAYOR, BEING AT PLACES WHERE
YOU’RE NOT NECESSARILY CAMPAIGNING BUT BEING THE
MAYOR AND I THINK THOSE THINGS WORKED WELL FOR HIM.>>ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS
INTERESTING, WE TALKED ABOUT IT ON THE SHOW AND I TOUCHED
ON WITH OTHER PEOPLE, I DON’T MEAN THIS SINCLE BUT WHEN YOU
TALK ABOUT BEING THE MAYOR A. WHOLE LOT, MAYBE THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS, THE TAX INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, ONE
EXAMPLE, MAYBE, OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND IF NOT,
YOU’LL TELL ME, ONE EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE TAX INCENTIVE
PROGRAMS SO OFTEN WERE BIG PROJECTS, FEDEX FORUM, BASS
PRO, DOWNTOWN PROJECTS OR MIDTOWN PROJECTS THAT THE
STRICKLAND ADMINISTRATION MADE A VERY CONCERTED EFFORT
TO GET THOSE KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS OUT INTO
NORTH AND SOUTH MEMPHIS, SO THE BINGHAMTON DEVELOPMENT,
WHITE HAVEN, AND THERE WAS THIS CONCERTED EVIDENT THAT
SEEMED LIKE, AND I DON’T KNOW IF EITHER WANT TO TAKE THIS,
MORE THAN IN THE PAST, WHERE THESE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
PROGRAMS HAPPENING IN OUTSIDE THE CORE, I’M NOT SAYING THAT
HE DID THAT SINCLE JUST FOR VOTES, BUT THERE WAS A
PRESENCE OF THE MAYOR’S OFFICE AND ECONOMIC ACO
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IN WHITE HAVEN, RALEIGH AND
BINGHAMTON THAT HADN’T BEEN THERE IN PAST YEARS AND THEY
SORT OF SHIED AWAY FROM THE BIG TICKET, FLASHY PROJECTS
LIKE FEDEX COMING DOWNTOWN OR SERVICEMASTER OR SO ON. IS THAT WHAT YOU KIND OF MEAN
ABOUT BEING MAYOR OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OTHER SNINGS.>>I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE
POWER OF THE INCUMBENCY IN TERMS OF IF SOMEONE IS HAVING
GALA OVER HERE, AND YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A SPEAKER, YOU
HAVE THE MAYOR, AND SO YOU GO THERE, YOU DON’T NECESSARILY
GO AND YOU CAMPAIGN ON THIS THAT, AND THE OTHER BUT YOUR
PRESENCE MAKES A DIFFERENCE, BUT BACK ON WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING THERE, I THINK THAT — I GIVE STRICKLAND THE BENEFIT
OF THE DOUBT IN TERMS OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND THINGS
THAT THEY PUT FORTH, AND A NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS
ADMINISTRATION ARE SOUND PEOPLE IN TERMS OF THEIR
POSITIONS ON THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. BUT THE ISSUE, THOUGH, IS
STILL HAVING DONE THAT, AND YOU GOT THE BIG DEVELOPMENT
GOING DOWNTOWN, THERE’S STILL A WIDE SWATH OF PEOPLE THAT
ARE JUST NOT REALLY FEELING THAT ECONOMIC PROGRESS, AND
THAT TO SOME DEGREE PLAYED OUT IN THE RACE, BUT THE
MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE SAW IT THE WAY THAT MR. STRICKLAND
DID AND SAID HEY, LET’S KEEP ROLLING.>>AND I THINK THAT THE ONE
THING THAT THE MAYOR WAS VERY CAREFUL TO DO, ANDDY IT A
LOT, WAS THAT — WHEN THERE WAS A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT, HE
ALMOST ALWAYS SAID LOOK, WE WANT TO SPREAD THIS TO OTHER
AREAS. WE KNOW THAT OTHER AREAS ARE
IN NEED, OTHER AREAS DESERVE TO SEE THIS KIND OF PROGRESS. HE NEVER WENT OUT THERE AND
SAID YEAH, THIS IS WORKING, WE ARE DOING IT, WE DON’T
NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING. HE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT
SOMETHING THAT I THINK SOME OF THE INTERNAL POLLING AMONG
THE CAMPAIGNS MIGHT HAVE SHOWN, AND THAT IS THAT
PEOPLE WERE SATISFIED WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY,
BUT THEY DIDN’T THINK THE CITY WAS WHERE IT NEEDED TO
BE.>>YEAH, I THINK THE OTHER
THING, TOO, IS THAT YOU HAVE TO WONDER, WELL, WAS THERE A
LEVEL OF DISSATISFACTION, BUT THEY JUST DIDN’T SEE THE
CANDIDATES TO MAKE A CHANGE, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT’S
A BIG ISSUE WHEN YOU LOOK AT MR. STRICKLAND AND YOU LOOK
AT MR. HERENTON AND SAWYER. IT’S LIKE OKAY, OBVIOUSLY
THEY DID NOT SEE A BIG ENOUGH OF A REASON TO SWITCH GEARS
THERE.>>AND IN THE CASE OF
HERENTON, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CANDIDATES ACTUALLY STOOD
FOR AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY SUPPORTED, THERE WASN’T A
WHOLE LOT — LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HERENTON
AND STRICKLAND. THE MAIN DIFFERENCE WAS THAT
MAYOR HERENTON THOUGHT THAT HE WAS THE PERSON WHO COULD
BEST CARRY OUT THESE CHANGES, BUT HE WAS FOR A BIGGER
POLICE FORCE, HE WAS FOR THE USE OF INCENTIVES TO SOME
DEGREE IN GENERAL, SO I JUST DIDN’T SEE A LOT OF
DIFFERENCE IN THEIR PLATFORMS.>>ONE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES
IS THAT STRICKLAND WAS IN THE POSITION OF REALLY GOING
POSITIVE ABOUT THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS IS MY
RECORD, AND THEN HERENTON IS GOING YEAH, BUT, OR NO, AND I
JUST U — I JUST THINK THAT IT DIDN’T PLAY.>>THE TONOO I WOULD SAY MY
OWN SORT OF OBSERVATION WAS THAT HERENTON’S TONE WAS MUCH
MORE NEGATIVE ABOUT THE PROBLEMS IN MEMPHIS AND MAYOR
STRICKLAND, NOT GETTING IT DONE. STRICKLAND, WHO WAS ON THE
SHOW A MONTH AGO, HIS MESSAGE WAS WE HAVE MOMENTUM, HE SAID
IT AS MANY TIMES AS I COULD POSSIBLY COUNT, AND HE SAID
YEAH, WE HAVE ALL THESE PROBLEMS AND WE ARE NOT GOOD
ENOUGH, BUT HE TRIED TO LAY OUT A MORE OPTIMISTIC PATH.>>YOU HAVE TO TO BE NEGATIVE TO
SOME DEGREE WHEN YOU ARE CHALLENGING THE INCUMBENT,
BUT YOU GOT TO BALANCE THAT WITH SOME PICTURE THAT YOU
ARE PAINTING THAT MAKES PEOPLE SAY YES, THAT’S THE
WORLD I WANT TO LIVE IN RIGHT NOW. AND THE WHOLE LET’S DO IT
AGAIN WORLD JUST WASN’T ONE THAT PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO
TAKE RESIDENCY IN.>>I THINK IT WAS
INTERESTING, TOO, TALKING ABOUT TAMI SAWYER, THAT I WAS
SURPRISED YOU WITH WERE NOT ABOUT WHERE HER TURNOUT WAS
AND WHAT I HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT
HER MESSAGE AND THE PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL MESSAGE
AND POVERTY AND INEQUALITY, EVEN PEOPLE HUGE FANS OF THAT
AND HUGE FANS OF HERS, I HAD MANY PEOPLE SAY TO ME I’M NOT
HEARING HOW SHE IS GOING TO GET US THERE. I’M HEARING ALL THIS RHETORIC
AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT I WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN, THEY
WOULD SAY TO ME, I WANT THERE TO BE MORE FOCUS ON POVERTY
AND INEQUALITY AND RACE AND SEXISM AND ALL THESE — BUT
SHE IS NOT REALLY LAYING OUT PLANS THAT I CAN GET AROUND,
THAT I CAN SORT OF IDENTIFY THAT WILL ADDRESS THOSE, THAT
— AND ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE SAY YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW, THE
MAYOR’S OFFICE CAN’T SOLVE, YOU KNOW, ISSUES OF REGIONAL
POVERTY. I MEAN, THE MAYOR CAN ONLY DO
SO MUCH. AGAIN, THAT MAY BE JUST THE
PEOPLE I HEARD FROM, BUT I HEARD IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND
AGAIN, PEOPLE WHO REALLY LOVED HER MESSAGE BUT DIDN’T
HEAR THE TANGIBLE STEPS, RIGHT OR WRONG, DIDN’T HEAR
THE TANGIBLE STEPS THAT SHE WAS GOING TO TAKE TO GET
THOSE THINGS ACCOMPLISHED.>>I THOUGHT THAT TO SOME
DEGREE, THAT HER VOTE TOTALS WERE A KIND OF REFERENDUM OR
VERDICT ON THE NEW ACOO ACTIVISM THAT SHE
REPRESENTED, AND I THINK THAT WHAT IS THE CASE — THE CASE
WITH ANY MOVEMENT IS THAT THESE KIND OF MOVEMENTS,
THESE KIND OF DIRECTIONS, ARE RARE HE WILL START OUT AS A
MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE, THAT IT’S USUALLY A VERY SMALL
GROUP OF PEOPLE, AND IT TAKES TIME TO BUILD. TAMI SAWYER’S TRAJECTORY HAS
TAKEN PLACE OVER A RELATIVELY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.>>YEAH, IT’S A VERY —
>>ABOUT A FIVE YEAR PERIOD. AND I THINK THAT THE NEW
ACTIVISM REMAINS RELEVANT, BUT I DON’T THINK THAT YOU’VE
SEEN IT CATCH ON TO A LARGER DEGREE AT THIS POINT.>>YEAH, AND I CAN’T IMAGINE,
IF ANYTHING I SAID SOUNDED OTHERWISE THAT, THIS IS THE
END OF TAMI SAWYER’S CAREER, BECAUSE PEOPLE LOSE, BILL
CLINTON LOST ONE OF HIS, BUT SHE IS STILL COUNTY
COMMISSIONER AND HAS RISEN QUICKLY AND HAS BEEN A AVID
FOLLOWING AND AGAIN, I THINK WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT THE
ACTIVIST COMMUNITY IS VERY RELEVANT. WE WILL REACH OUT, I THINK WE
HAVE ALREADY, TO TRY TO GET MAYOR STRICKLAND ON AS SOON
AS REASONABLE TO TALK ABOUT HIS GOALS AND PLANS AND WHAT
IS NEXT IN THE COMING TERM, IN HIS SECOND TERM. AND WE MAY COME BACK, BUT
LET’S MOVE TO THE OTHER BIG VOTE THAT HAPPENED ON
THURSDAY, AND THAT WAS THE SALES TAX REFERENDUM. BILL, FOR THOSE THAT MAYBE
VOTED BUT DIDN’T FULLY UNDERSTAND, AGAIN, REMIND US
WHAT THAT SALES TAX REFERENDUM SAID, AND NOW WE
ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE MUDDINESS OF WHAT HAPPENS. AFTER IT HAS PASSED.>>IT IS A HALF PERCENT
INCREASE IN THE SALES TAX, TAKING IT UP TO 9.75 PERCENT
ON MOST ITEMS THAT YOU BUY. THERE’S BEEN SOME ROLL BACKS
IN THE REG SLATE YOU’RE, BUT THIS IS MOST OF THE THINGS
YOU BUY, THE SALES TAX YOU PAY GOES UP TO 9.75 PERCENT. THAT MONEY IS INTENDED TO, BY
THE TERMS OF THE REFERENDUM, TO RESTORE THE BENEFITS THAT
THE CITY CUT FIVE YEARS AGO TO ALL CITY EMPLOYEES, TO
RESTORE THOSE HEALTH AND PENSION BENEFITS TO POLICE
AND FIREFIGHTERS ONLY. IF THERE IS ANY REASON LEFT
OVER IN TERMS OF THE REVENUE GENERATED BY THIS HALF CENT,
THEN THAT WOULD GO TOWARD THE PRE-KINDERGARTEN EXPANSION
THAT’S UNDERWAY BY THE CITY AND COUNTY AND IT WILL ALSO
GO TO FIX THE ROADS.>>AND IT WAS A CLOSE VOTE,
IT WAS, WHAT, 49,000, AND 44,000, AGAINST THE UNIONS,
POLICE AND FIRE WORKED VERY HARD TO GET — ONE, TO GET IT
ON THE BALLOT IN THE FIRST PLACE, THEY HAD 140,000
SIGNATURES, THEY’VE BEEN PUSHING TO DO THIS QUARTER
POINT SALES TAX INCREASE TO FUND THESE BENEFIT INCREASES,
THE COUNCIL AND SO ON HAS NOT DONE IT, AND MOST OF THE
TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU SORT OF THINK THAT A SALES TAX
INCREASE WILL FAIL BUT THE UNIONS WORKED THE CROWD. I MEAN, THEY WORKED REALLY
HARD ON THIS. THEY HAD A BIG TURNOUT. WHAT COMES NEXT FROM IT IS
EXTREMELY MUDDY IN TERMS OF THAT INCREASE, THE SHELBY
COUNTY COMMISSION CAN VOTE TO TAKE HALF THAT INCREASE AND
IT’S ESTIMATE TO RAISE — THERE ARE DIFFERENCES OF
OPINION, BUT LET’S CALL IT 50 MILLION-DOLLARS, ISH,
CURRENT RATE, AND THAT IS BASED ON THE ECONOMY. THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS THE
LEGAL RIGHT TO TAKE HALF OF TESTIFY AND EDMOND FORD,
JUNIOR, FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS SAID HE WOULD
LIKE FOR THEM TO DO THAT, SO IT TAKES IT TO 25 MILLION AND
EVEN MORE COMPLICATED, IT’S NOT CLEAR THE CITY COUNCIL IS
BOUND BY THE VOTE TO PUT THAT MONEY TOWARDS BENEFITS. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?>>WELL, THEY WILL HAVE A
CONTEST TO SEE IF EVERYBODY CAN RECOUNT WHAT YOU JUST
SAID!>> BUT IT’S THAT
COMPLICATED. IT’S EVEN MORE COMPLICATED.>>YEAH, BUT IT WAS A CLOSE
VOTE. BUT YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO
PEOPLE, GOING UP TO IT, I DIDN’T HEAR A LOT OF STRONG
SENTIMENT BASKETBALL IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER UNLESS I WAS
IN A PARTICULAR POCKET OF PEOPLE, SO THE VOTE ITSELF
DIDN’T SURPRISE ME SO MUCH. I CAN’T IMAGINE THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL DECIDING THAT IT WOULD DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN
WHAT WAS DESIGNATED FOR THOSE FUNDS. THAT WOULD BE A DISASTER, I
THINK. I THINK WHAT WILL BE
INTERESTING TO ME IS WHAT IS THE COUNTY COMMISSION GOING
TO DO IN TERMS OF GOING FOR ITS SHARE AND HOW ALL THAT’S
GOING TO WORK ITSELF OUT. BUT THE SALES TAX, I MEAN, IT
WAS A HARD DECISION FOR SOME PEOPLE, THOUGH. I MEAN, THIS IS MEMPHIS. WE ARE POVERTY-LADEN. SALARIES AREN’T WHERE THEY
NEED TO BE. AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
RAISING THE SALES TAX. THAT WAS A TOUGH DEAL. BUT THEN WHEN YOU TIE IT TO
THE WHOLE SAFETY ISSUE, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE LEVER
CHANGER FOR SOME PEOPLE, ALTHOUGH THERE’S A REAL
ARGUMENT, YOU KNOW, STILL AS TO, YOU KNOW, MORE POLICE,
CRIME RATIO.>>BILL, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE
SALES TAX.>>I THINK THAT WHAT YOU SAW
HAPPEN WAS — REFLECTED PEOPLE’S CONCERNS ABOUT
CRIME. THEIR ONGOING CONCERNS ABOUT
CRIME. YOU ALSO REALLY DIDN’T HAVE
AN ORGANIZED AND SUSTAINED CAMPAIGN AGAINST A SALES TAX
HIKE. YOU HAD KIM CONRAD ON THE
CITY COUNCIL AND EDMOND FORD, JUNIOR ON THE COUNTY
COMMISSION WHO WERE VOCALLY AGAINST IT, BUT THE FEW —
THE –>>ELECTED POLITICIANS WHO
ARE VOCALLY AGAINST IT.>>MOST OF THE OTHER
OFFICIALS HAD A LIVE AND LET LIVE ATTITUDE. I’M NOT GOING TO CAMPAIGN FOR
IT, BUT WHATEVER THE PEOPLE WILL DO, I WILL SUPPORT THAT
AND FOLLOW THAT. MEANWHILE, THE POLICE AND
FIRE UNIONS GOT INTO THIS IN A BIG WAY. THEY RAN A TRADITIONAL
CAMPAIGN, WITH WARD AND PRECINCT WORK, MOBILIZING
VOTERS, AND IT SHOWED IN THE VOTE TOTAL. JUST ABOUT THE EASIEST THING
TO PUSH OFF A CLIFF POLITICALLY IS A TAX HIKE
THAT’S ON THE BALLOT. AND WE’VE SEEN IT HAPPEN
BEFORE. I MEAN, WE ACTUALLY COUNTED
UP THE NUMBER OF BALLOT QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ON
ANY KIND OF LOCAL BALLOT IN THE LAST DECADE. THERE HAVE BEEN 56 BALLOT
QUESTIONS, INCLUDING THIS ONE. ELEVEN OF THEM, INCLUDING THE
ONE LAST NIGHT, HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY VOTERS. I’M SORRY, YES, 11 OF THEM
HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY VOTERS. THE REST HAVE FAILED. INCLUDING IN 2012, TWO SALES
TAX HIKE PROPOSALS FOR UNIVERSAL PRE-KINDERGARTEN,
AND A GAS TAX PROPOSAL TO FUND THE MEMPHIS-AREA TRANSIT
AUTHORITY.>>YEAH, IT’S INTERESTING,
LIKE — AND I THINK YOU BOTH HAVE SAID, AND MY SENSE OF
IT, FOR WHAT IT’S WORTH, IT WAS THE CRIME ISSUE, AND THAT
THE CRIME ISSUE, ONE, THE UNION ORGANIZATION AND THE
UNION GET OUT THE VOTE AND THE MAILERS, AND THEY RAN IT
LIKE A CAMPAIGN, THERE WAS THAT, BUT THE FIRE UNION —
THE FIRE UNION AND POLICE UNION BUT THE SECOND THING
WAS THE PEOPLE RESPONDING TO CRIME. MEMPHIS HAS A CRIME PROBLEM. ALL OF THE CANDIDATES TALK
ABOUT IT, THEY TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS BUT EVEN
MAYOR STRICKLAND, WHO WON OVERWHELMINGLY RAN ON HEY, WE
NEED MORE FIRE AND POLICE, AND HE ALSO — I THINK HIS
STANCE ON THIS WAS OF I WILL GO, IF IT PASSES, I WILL GO
WITH THE WILL OF THE VOTERS. HE DID NOT COME OUT AGAINST
IT, FOR IT.>>HE DECIDED NOT TO TAKE A
POSITION ON IT. AND SO HE DIDN’T. BUT THE OTHER THING THAT THE
UNIONS DID WAS THEY REALLY LINKED UP WITH STRICKLAND’S
SENTIMENT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE POLICE OFFICERS,
AND THEY SAID THAT THIS IS A WAY TO NOT ONLY GET MORE
POLICE OFFICERS, BUT TO KEEP THEM.>>THAT WAS — YOU
ARTICULATED WHAT I WAS FUMBLING TO SAY, WHICH WAS
THAT THERE WAS A KIND OF VERY SMART STRATEGIC WAY IN
HINDSIGHT, THE WAY THEY CAPITALIZED ON THE MAYOR’S
POPULARITY, BUILDING A POLICE FORCE A. QUESTION THAT NEEDS
A LOT OF EXPLORATION, AS YOU SAID, WILL MORE COPS EQUAL —
BUT THE GENERAL SENTIMENT SEEMED TO BE OUT THERE OF
STRICKLAND VOTERS, YEAH, I WANT MORE COPS, STRICKLAND
GOES EVERYWHERE AND TALKS ABOUT REBALANCING POLICE
FORCE, I’M LOOKING AT THE BALLOT AND HERE’S A QUARTER
POINT, DOESN’T SEEM LIKE A LOT TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF
FIRE — EVERYBODY LOVES FIREMEN AND NO ONE LIKES
CRIME AND IT WAS AN INTERESTING WAY TO PASSIVELY
KIND OF OF OF LATCH ON TO STRICKLAND’S RHETORIC AND
CAMPAIGN POSITIONS ON REBUILDING A POLICE FORCE.>>I’M GOING TO PLEAD LACK OF
SLEEP ON THIS.>>DID YOU HAVE AN ERROR?>>I THINK I DID.>>YOU ARE ALLOWED. THIS IS THE THIRD ERROR IN
THE 9 1/2 YEAR HISTORY OF “BEHIND THE HEADLINES”, SO GO
AHEAD, TELL US.>>I’M GOING TO SAY THERE
WERE 56 REFERENDUMS IN THE LAST DECADE, AND I BELIEVE
THAT 10 OF THOSE PASSED.>>NOT 11?>>NO. I’M GOING TO SAY I’M NOT
SURE. I’M GOING TO LEAVE IT.>>WE’LL GO ON TWITTER AFTER
WARD AND CORRECT IT.>>IT WAS A LONG DAY AND LONG
NIGHT AND LONG WEEK, REALLY.>>>OTHER THOUGHTS? SO THE OTHER DYNAMIC, I
THINK, THAT IS INTERESTING, AND KEN CONRAD, ARGUING VOCIF
RUFFLE WITH TOMMY MALONE, ARGUING AGAINST THE SALES TAX
INCREASES, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE
STATE, COULD THE STATE COME IN. THE WHOLE REASON FOLKS LIKE
KIM CONRAD WILL SAY THEY END UP CUTTING THE BENEFITS IN
2014, THE STATE HAD SAID YOU ALL, MUNICIPALITIES, MEMPHIS
PARTICULARLY BUT OTHER MUNICIPALITY, NEED TO GET
SERIOUS ABOUT FUNDING THE PENSION AND HEALTH BENEFITS
FOR RETIREES, THAT’S WHY THE COUNCIL ARGUED THEY NEEDED TO
CUT THE BENEFITS AND START PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO THOSE
FUNDS. NOW WITH THIS ON THE HORIZON,
I MEAN, IT’S A LEGISLATURE THAT DOES NOT HESITATE TO
IMPOSE CONDITIONS ON CITIES LIKE MEMPHIS, RIGHT?>>THAT’S CORRECT.>>THERE’S SO MUCH, AS YOU
SAID, THERE’S SO MUCH MORE. THIS IS NOT SO SIMPLE AS IT’S
GOING TO PASS, THE MONEY IS GOING TO GO IN THE BANK AND
IT’S ABSOLUTELY GOING TO GO — I DON’T THINK IT IS, THAT
IT’S ABSOLUTELY GOING TO GO TO FIRE AND POLICE THE WAY
THEY EXPECT. THERE ARE A LOT OF HURDLES
BEFORE IT GETS DONE.>>HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE
LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO DO. WE DO HAVE A NEW GOVERNOR
THERE, AND WHAT HIS POSITION IS, AND WHETHER HE CAN HOLD
SWAY WITH THE LEGISLATORS IN ANY KIND OF WAY TO EFFECT
THIS IS THE X-FACTOR.>>THE CONTROLLER’S OFFICE
HAS HAD A LOT TO SAY ABOUT HOW THE CITY MAINTAINS ITS
PENSION, AND THAT’S THE REASON WE HAVE A STATE LAW
REQUIRING THEM TO FULLY FUND SOME PARTS OF THIS
ARRANGEMENT. SO THERE WILL PROBABLY BE
REVENUE ESTIMATES THAT I THINK THE STATE IS GOING TO
WANT TO LOOK AT IF THIS ACTUALLY GOES ON THE BOOKS
AND GETS IN THE BUDGET.>>THE LAST PART OF THE SHOW
HERE, CITY COUNCIL RACES, BILL, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO
START?>>ALL 13 WERE ON THE BALLOT,
SEVEN OF THE 10 INCUMBENTS RUNNING WERE ELECTED TO NEW
TERMS OF OFFICE LAST NIGHT. GERRE CURRIE, ONE OF THREE
APPOINTED COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHO DECIDED TO NOT RUN FOR
THE DISTRICT SIX SEAT HE HOLDS BUT FOR SUPER DISTRICT
EIGHT, POSITION ONE, LOST THAT BID TO J.B. SMILEY, WHO
JUST RAN FOR THE SHELBY COUNTY COMMISSION LAST YEAR,
HE WON THAT SEAT OVERWHELMINGLY. YOU HAVE TWO OTHER INCUMBENTS
WHO WILL GO TO NOVEMBER RUNOFF, IN DISTRICT ONE, IT’S
SHERMAN GREER, APPOINTED TO THAT SEAT AGAINST RHONDA
LOGAN, ONE OF THE PEOPLE VYING FOR THAT APPOINTMENT IN
JANUARY BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO FILL A VACANCY.>>THE OTHER IS GOING TO BE
IN DISTRICT SEVEN, THIS WAS THE LARGEST COUNCIL RACE ON
THE BALLOT, THE INCUMBENT, BERLIN BOYD GOES TO A RUNOFF
WITH CHALLENGER MICALYN EASTER-THOMAS.>>THAT WAS THE ONE THAT
SURPRISED ME, THAT BERLIN BOYD, HE HAD MORE VOTES THAN
MICHALYN BUT DIDN’T WIN THAT DISTRICT HANDILY AND HE’S
BEEN IN OFFICE QUITE SOME TIME NOW. WERE YOU SURPRISED?>>NOT AT ALL, IF YOU LOOK
BACK AT THE STORIES AND THINGS WE’VE DONE OVER THE
LAST YEAR OR SO AND MR. BOYD WAS EMBROIL A NUMBER OF
CONTROVERSIAL-TYPE MEASURES, BOTH IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT
DIRECTLY AFFECT THE COUNCIL AND EVEN SOME OF HIS
CONNECTIVITY OUTSIDE, SO — AND THEN THE BIG BLOWUP IN
THE CITY COUNCIL, WHERE WE GO INTO THE WHOLE DOZENS DEAL,
NO, IT DOESN’T SURPRISE ME AT ALL.>>WHAT WAS THE WHOLE DOZENS
DEAL?>>THERE WAS THE FLARE-UP,
AND HE ACTUALLY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT ONE OF THE
OTHER PEOPLE’S –>>HE MADE COMMENT ABOUT
SOMEONE’S MOTHER.>>OH.>>IN THE AUDIENCE.>>I RARELY —
>>I DON’T REMEMBER THAT.>>I DON’T THINK I’VE EVER
ACTUALLY SAID THAT BEFORE, BUT YES, HE TALKED ABOUT
SOMEONE’S MOTHER.>>SO THERE WAS JUST ENOUGH
OUT THERE THAT IT DIDN’T SURPRISE ME THAT THERE WOULD
BE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO GET OUT AND TRY TO CHALLENGE HIM. I THINK THE THING THAT MAYBE
SURPRISED ME, THOUGH, WAS DISTRICT SIX, AND THAT’S THE
ONE WHERE ED FORD, SENIOR WON BY SUCH A LARGE MARGIN. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO — I
WAS TELLING YOU BEFORE THE SHOW, TO DO A COUPLE OF
FORUMS THERE, AND MOST OF THOSE INSTANCES, YOU HAD —
HE WASN’T AT EITHER ONE OF THEM, RIGHT, AND PEOPLE THAT
WERE THERE WERE JUST SO — THEY WEREN’T ANTI-HIM, AS
THEY WERE ANTI, QUOTE, THE FORD FAMILY, AND THIS
DISTRICT HAS BEEN HELD HOSTAGE FOR ALL THESE NUMBER
OF YEARS.>>IT’S NOT —
>>THE DISTRICT IS WHERE? FOR THOSE OF US WHO DON’T
KNOW THE DISTRICT NUMBERS, HOW THEY RELATE TO
NEIGHBORHOODS.>>BASICALLY SOUTH MEMPHIS,
38106, 38126, ALL IN THAT AREA, RIGHT, SO TO SEE THE
NUMBERS COME OUT THAT LARGE WERE SOMEWHAT SURPRISING TO
ME, AND AT LEAST IN THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT, THEY
STILL GOT THE — THEY GET THE VOTE OUT.>>THE COUNCIL RACE THAT
SURPRISED ME WAS THE MOST WAS SUPER DISTRICT NINE POSITION,
POSITION TWO, CHASE CARLISLE AND ERICA SUGARMO — AND
TARIK SUGARMON AND CARLISLE WON BY 531 VOTES.>>OUT OF HOW MANY THOUSANDS?>>OUT OF — LET ME SEE.>>I’M NOT GOING TO —
>>OUT OF MANY. LIKE THE BERLIN BOYD, THE
BOYD THOMAS VOTE WAS 2500 TO — IT WAS REALLY SMALL
NUMBERS, BUT THAT WAS — BECAUSE IT’S A SUPER DISTRICT
–>>IT’S OUT OF 44,562 VOTES
THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND THE LEAD CHANGED HANDS
SEVERAL TIMES DURING THE VOTE COUNT.>>TARIK SUGARMON RAN IN A
SPECIAL ELECTION FOR ANOTHER COUNCIL SEAT JUST LAST YEAR,
AND IN EFFECT KEPT ON CAMPAIGNING AND CAMPAIGNED
VERY HARD, CHASE CARLISLE IS A VICE PRESIDENT WITH AVIS NF
YOUNG, THIS WAS HIS FIRST CAMPAIGN, AND IT WAS
SURPRISING THAT IT WAS THIS CLOSE.>>SUGARMON HAS STRONG NAME
RECOGNITION IN THE FAMILY.>>WILL THERE BE A RECOUNT
TRIGGERED WHEN IT’S THAT CLOSE?>>NO. OUR STATE LAW IS THAT YOU
DON’T GET AN AUTOMATIC RECOUNT IN IT’S — IF IT’S
THAT CLOSE T WOULD BE THAT CLOSE IF THERE WERE THAT KIND
OF A LOSS.>>AND THE RUNOFFS, THAT’S
THE PROCESS ON THE UNIONOFF — RUNOFF?>>FIRST WEEK IN NOVEMBER. I DON’T KNOW THE EXACT DATE,
BUT NOVEMBER, PEOPLE WILL GO BACK TO THE POLLS. IN THESE TWO DISTRICTS ONLY. TURNOUT WILL BE EXTREMELY
SMALL.>>SO I MEAN, ANY SENSE —
AND LET’S TALK ABOUT WHO WON’T BE, FOR A SECOND, WHO
WON’T BE ON THE CITY COUNCIL, KIM CONRAD, BEEN A FIXTURE,
TWICE CHAIRMAN, CURRENT CHAIRMAN, REEJ HEDGEPATH, JOE
BROWN.>>ALL THREE OF THEM WERE
TERM LIMITS, AND JOE BROWN MADE A BID FOR CITY COURT
CHECK, HE CAME IN SECOND TO FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER
MYRON LOWRY.>>WHO ELSE COMES TO MIND IN
TERMS OF COUNCIL PEOPLE WHO ARE TERMED OUT?>>WE ARE LEAVING PEOPLE OUT.>>THOSE WERE THE THREE.>>WHO HAVE BEEN PROMINENT. OKAY. SO A SENSE OF — WE’VE GOT
THE SAME MAYOR FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEAR TERM, AND WE’VE GOT
A COUNCIL THAT WILL TURN OVER. WHEN WILL THE NEW PEOPLE BE
SEATED?>>JANUARY 1ST. EVERYBODY STARTS THEIR NEW
TERMS OF OFFICE. BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, MAYBE A
LITTLE BIT AFTER THAT, YOU MIGHT SEE SOME CHANGES IN THE
MAYOR’S ADMINISTRATION. YOU MIGHT SEE SOME SHUFFLING
OF DIVISION DIRECTORS. YOU WILL PROBABLY SEE A LOT
OF OF — A LOT OF DIVISION DIRECTORS WHO STAY IN THE
SECOND TERM.>>OTHER THOUGHTS, I MEAN,
HOW THE MAYOR WORKS WITH THIS NEW COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY
FEEL KR — KARANJA AJANAKU RANJA OF HOW THE COUNCIL
FEELS OR SO TONIGHT.>>TOO SOON BUT THE THING I’M
LOOKING FOR IS OUTSIDE THE MAIN POLITICS AND TO THE
DEGREE THAT THERE’S AN ORGANIZED AFRICAN-AMERICAN
COMMUNITY I’M WONDERING WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE RELATIVE
TO POLITICS AND THERE ARE JUST A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT
ARE IN THE PLAY THAT MAY BE A FACTOR IN WHERE WE GO FROM
HERE.>>QUICK THING, BILL, WITH
THE SETBACK TO THE SALES TAX REFERENDUM, WHAT IS THE
TIMING ON THAT, WHEN DOES THAT GO INTO EFFECT?>>THE COUNCIL TAKES THIS UP
DURING THEIR BUDGET SEASON, WHICH WILL START IN THE
SPRING.>>OKAY. AND THEN THE COUNTY
COMMISSION, AROUND THAT SAME TIME, COULD VOTE —
>>THE COUNTY COMMISSION WOULD DECIDE WHETHER THEY
WANT TO TRY TO PREEMPT IT EARLIER THAN THAT.>>THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING
HERE AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. JOIN US AGAIN NEXT WEEK.>>CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY
CAPTION ASSOCIATES, LLC WWW.CAPTIONASSOCIATES.COM

Author:

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *