7PM | CNN Newsroom 7/28/19 [FULL] | President Trump Breaking News Today July 28, 2019

7PM | CNN Newsroom 7/28/19 [FULL] | President Trump Breaking News Today July 28, 2019



senators Kamala Harris and Cory Booker with us here at this debate side and Detroit Democratic strategist Angela Rai former Obama White House communications director Jen Psaki former Clinton White House press secretary Joe Walker Democratic strategist on the 92 Clinton gore campaign Paul Begala former communications director for the Hillary Clinton campaign Karen Finney and former South Carolina Democratic House member Bakari sellers welcome everybody so many candidates so many dividing lines right now let's start with age because three of those Democrats Joe Biden Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren they will all be over the age of 70 come election day in November um should that be an issue Angela I think that we can't say it's an issue now we have an older president in the White House right now I think that the reality that we have to face is that there are some divides from a policy standpoint but age also is in dictating that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are among some of the most progressive folks resonating very well with Millennials and age is not a factor in that so I think it really more or less depends on policy and what people want to see differently going into let me remind everybody because this to become an issue in the first debate you'll recall congressman Eric SWA while we discuss a little bit earlier he had that famous passed the torch line he called out the age of the the former Vice President Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders he wasn't having it either listen I was six years old when a presidential candidate came to the California Democratic convention and said it's time to pass the torch to a new generation of Americans that candidate was then-senator Joe Biden Joe Biden was right when he said it was time to pass torch to a new generation of Americans 32 years ago still right today if I were to say to a younger person you know you're not qualified because you're only 35 or 36 such people on the totality of who they are what their ideas are what their experiences what their record is that's what I think we should SWA Wells no longer in the race Karen do you think we'll see you have to bring up age in this debate I mean just think about on that first night you've got you know senator Sanders and Senator Warren and then you've got people to judge and beta O'Rourke and so you've already got the contrast and the second night as well of sort of older and younger and so I think we're gonna see in the way they talk about policy maybe some generational differences but on the first I think we will also see because we've got governor Bullock on the stage for the first time a little bit of left versus right capitalism versus socialism and maybe a little bit of the generational gap as well Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden will not be on the same stage this time around but right but Paul you say they better both show up wearing flak jackets because combined they have it was at 82 years known as few years in public office and god bless him 82 years now the two leading women kanakamma Harrison Elizabeth Warren combined only have 21 now that's a lot I mean they're fully qualified but you can do a lot combing through 82 years of some so it makes them more vulnerable you think very vulnerable is it what the military people call it target-rich environment you feel like a mosquito in a nudist colony just don't know where you land what are you gonna hit pay dirt wherever you land oh do you also say this and just throw it out there I do think that in you go into preparation you have to make sure that your candidates are well-rested and your candidates are sharp and one of the things that we saw this week was we saw Robert Muller who was 74 years old and we saw the difficulty he had just from a pure appearance staring it now I don't think that's the stand about which you should judge his testimony because I thought it was very good but you know there there was a there was a lot of question about whether or not you know hit whether or not he was in that as agile as she should be but you look at Bernie Sanders for example in Elizabeth Warren they have proved time and time again that they can stand toe-to-toe with the best of them I just know that viewers will have that juxtaposition in their head when they're watching that debate and to Karen's point a lot of what it goes unsaid what people judge would like what Kamala Harris would like what Julian Castro are like are those split images on the screen where you have an image of a pea Buddha judge and a Bernie Sanders or you have an image of a Joe Biden and a who Leon Castro because sometimes you don't you don't have to say anything to say that we're looking for generational change the images they speak for themselves but I think people have to also think about as they're preparing how much of their time particularly for those who know they're going to get less time how much of your time are you going to spend attacking a front-runner or trying to say something positive about yourself and break through in a positive way not just because you were able to take somebody down in the way that we saw Camilla go after Joe Biden last time I mean I think she got a lot of credit for style and that she showed she could throw a punch some people had some different feelings about the substance of it as to whether or not that was fair and I do think there's an an element of this that says how much time do we want to spend talking about the past versus the future when we know that's what people vote on black white brown you name it men women we I want to hear what are you gonna do for me now let me swing to the right as I talk about the conversation of among many of the candidates being more and more to the left of the political divide I am wondering Joe who do you think is speaking to the middle the best well listen I think I think Biden has done a good job of framing this as a more a case for the country that a battle for the soul of the country I think others have been sporadic I mean Amy Klobuchar has had a moment they were there in a town hall and we talked about Kirsten Gillibrand before but I think you know it's this is really interesting I want to push back a little bit on Paul because one of the other things about the Iowa CNN poll and Iowa was for the first time since I can remember people were valuing more than 50% of the caucus goers wanted people with DC experience Trump has changed the dynamic in ways that I don't know that we all fully understand yet but the idea and I think most of the changes I think most Democrats will tell you they might have different prescriptions for it right but the absolute priority is someone who can beat Trump and someone who's different from Trump and someone who knows stuff and can run the government and isn't going to be crazy so that opens up the possibility for some candidates they say like Amy Klobuchar who isn't the most dynamic person in the world but who if she can make the case for example that you know she has a plan and she's going to restore sanity to the White House that's a big plus if you'd four years ago if someone had said DC experience every consultant in the room would have walked out real quick yeah we running away from that let me take up on a point Karen made is that it can't just be about who's gonna punch Trump it has to be about somebody who is presenting a forward-looking vision that is not defined by 500 pages of policy proposals it is defined by who has an optimistic vision for the future you've seen a couple of the candidates do that well I think that's why mayor Pete has risen s he has bado tried to do that obviously hasn't been successful we probably need to see more of that from Joe Biden I don't think it's an age thing I think it's about somebody who is presenting not just I can punch Trump but I have a better option if you open my door sorry I want just say also I mean to push back on your point a little bit is I don't think that it's just someone who can present a better vision for the future in absence of what they've done in the past I think that now you have even a new group of voters that didn't vote the last election or the election before who had parents who were incarcerated because of that crime bill who had uncles cousins Big Brothers Big Sisters incarcerated be they have personally been impacted by policy that Joe Biden was at the forefront of leading that makes it so that your future prescriptions have to align someone with the person you have become up to this point and I can i I agree with Angela and one of the things that is is driving me mad in this in this presidential primary is that when you talk about somebody's record oh my god it's an attack it's a circular firing squad or when you talk about somebody's policy proposals oh my god let's not do this we saw what happened in 2016 well the fact is there was no more bitter primary than in 2008 between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama that's right that primary was the light years more bitter than what we saw in 2016 the fact is Barack Obama to this day will tell you that that primary made him a better candidate the best example of this is on health care every single person in this race agrees with Obama care now the question is how do we go a step further it's not as if we are trying to say that individuals do not need access to quality care and so look if Joe Joe Biden's record stretches back 40 years 50 years 40 years and and it's okay for him to have to reconcile that record just as Kamala Harris has to reconcile her record when she was DEA Attorney General I mean you have to do those things for people to give you any credit but let me just be clear I'm not suggesting that your previous record doesn't matter right how much time are you gonna spend on that when we know to what Joe just said the majority of people watching watch beat Trump so and if we're gonna look at the past we've got to look at the whole record so and what you write about that because one of the things that we all know and again I don't think it's all about the record a lot of it has to do with like the vision going forward right and also where do they you know plant their flag on this scale of you know being more moderate being more liberal and who are they talking to in terms of the voters guys I am in it and on my last word guys but I got the squeeze in a break coming up reality show standards if there was any doubt that Donald Trump was gonna be a very different candidate to run against there was this moment you've called women you don't like fat pigs dogs slobs and disgusting animals Donald Trump change the way we think about presidential debate performances do you need another reminder hey the one thing you have over me is experience but it's bad experience with Jeb's attitude we will never be great again that I can tell you am I allowed to finish up one at a time so ahead mr. Trump so a little bit again you're trying to build up your enemies yeah but it's not this little guy has lied so much about my record there we go here's he supports federal taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood I disagree with him on that that's a matter of principle it's no bigger first of all Rand Paul shouldn't even be on this stage he's number 11 he's got one percent in the polls and how he got up here there's far too many people anyway the question now how much pressure is there on a presidential candidate to be an entertainer or to emulate Trump's brash or blunt debate posturing in other words to not be boring as Trump would say everyone on our panel is back with us it is a lightening round as we try to keep the lightening at bay and that's the question Angela I'll start with you yeah I think that I'm at a place if we're more so now than I've ever been before where it is so important that you are built on character and substance and we see what happens when you're not and you get to the White House like I do not want to see that ever again so if you're entertaining that's cool just make sure there's some policy behind it you know how the federal government works you might have taken civics or at least you took a civics class course on the Internet look if the winner was somebody who was trying to kind of have an entertaining moment Erick's wellwe would be leading in the polls and he's again great on television you know I think though this is a tough question for people who it's not natural to be bombastic and could still be excellent presidents and I personally think that's a great quality for somebody to be steady and calm that's not what debates support and that's what tricky those tricky I think when we get to the general election again Trump has changed things so much that being the anti-trump will be okay being a little bit boring being serious not having to react to every crazy tweet or every crazy you know like the Republicans did in 2016 I'm trying to go after them I've just sort of delivering the goods and saying coders it's up to you to decide so I think I think boring might be in not bombastic these are Democrats we do not like triumph the insult comic president but humor we had very little I think no you were in the last debate somebody over there better make me laugh it doesn't like stupid and ridiculous but you know the scripture says a soft word turneth away wrath well but a funny word also really helps to open people up agreed a little bit of humor would be fine a little bit of humanity would be fine I'm gonna agree with Joe though also because the difference this time than in 2016 is we've now seen what Trump is like as president and we know what a disaster it is there was a Pew study as the rain comes there was a Pew study in June that showed a majority of Democrats and independents and a good percentage of Republicans they feel embarrassed they feel ashamed they feel anxiety that was before Trump went after the squad by the way so people are already feeling that so I don't think they want to see that again in the debates well Donald Trump right now has the highest approval ratings of his presidency I mean that that's just a fact that's where we are and I don't want to disagree with everybody but well but I am always always set it up I think that's more because the last debate was really bad for the Democratic Party no but I just think that you have to be a fighter and I and I just think that you have to be willing to go in there and slug it out with Donald Trump because this for a lot of people is is I mean he is picking on people he is not only using his systems that he has in the White House to oppress people but he's doing it and dividing us every single day with the words that come out of his mouth and so yes it's it's it's good in theory to be able to allow him to talk about Baltimore and sit back and say well I'm gonna be a statesman and I'm gonna say that we're but no you got to go out there and say – he's full of shit I mean you've got to be willing or – dumb boy I'm sorry but you gotta be willing to do that you got to be willing to go out and punch him in the face so Carla's quoting someone just now when he says my thanks to all of you as we had to break a famous debate line that became part of the political lexicon and serves as a warning against hubris on the campaign trail I have as much experience in the Congress as Jack Kennedy did when he sought the presidency Jack Kennedy with a friend yes tweeted the Director of National Intelligence dan coates will leave office August 15th Trump also says he will nominate Texas Republican Congressman John Ratcliffe to be the next Intel chief representative Ratcliff as a member of the House Judiciary Committee and had some fiery words Wednesday during the Robert Miller hearing I agree with the chairman this morning when he said Donald Trump is not above the law he's not but he damn sure shouldn't be below the law which is where volume 2 of this report puts him I want to bring in Maryland Democrat congressman Jamie Raskin who serves on the Judiciary Committee with congressman Ratcliffe congressman thanks for being here you were in that room do you feel like he was auditioning for the president there well like a lot of his colleagues on the Republican side of the aisle he's working very hard to impress the President and to toe the party line as Michael Cohen put it you know everything is meant to please the boss and the you know our GOP colleagues have become something like a cult of personality you know if the president says the North Korean dictator is our celestial Savior than he is if we're going to nuclear war against him then we're doing that they've suspended critical thought do you think he would make a good Director of National Intelligence well in terms of what President Trump is looking for undoubtedly I mean he will essentially follow whatever the president tells him to do and justify and rationalize everything the president has done I mean the idea that he can read the mullah report and say that Donald Trump has somehow been mistreated is just appalling I mean the anybody else in the country been indicted for 10 episodes of president of obstruction of justice but President Trump got off because of the DOJ policy that a sitting president can't be indicted that's the only reason why congressman a lot of people are saying the book was better than the movie when it came to Robert Miller do you have any regrets about his testimony I don't I mean I'm amazed at the number of people who you know went there looking for he's some kind of Broadway show or something you know this is an attempt for us to have the special counsel enunciate the principal findings of the report after they were repeatedly obscured and well you know confused by the Attorney General and by President Trump so I think that we told a very clear story Vladimir Putin and the Russian government engaged in a sweeping and systematic campaign to subvert and to undermine the American presidential election Donald Trump in his campaign welcomed them with open arms threw open the doors and the windows and then when it was discovered he proceeded to obstruct justice and to interfere 10 different times to try to get people to lie to suppress evidence to conceal his involvement with the Russians so I think that came through at the moment but the Moller hearing did not convince a lot of your colleagues that it was time to move forward with an impeachment inquiry did Democrats too much on his testimony being the linchpin on impeachment support actually I think you somebody will get me the exact numbers now but I think seven or eight members have come forward to say that they endorse the impeachment investigation is 105 so that's not that's not even half of your Democratic caucus in the house yeah but it's the overwhelming number of people on the investigative committees and every day more and more are joining on it's very clear the direction in which things are moving look we're in the middle of an impeachment investigation we've been overwhelmed by evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors it's staring everybody in the face and so our the Judiciary Committee is to collect and to catalog and inventory these high crimes and misdemeanors but also we need to expand the scope of what we're looking at I mean this is a president who has been collecting money from at least 24 different foreign governments through the Trump Hotel through the office tower through the golf courses through different business enterprises that's in direct violation of article 1 section 9 of the Constitution which says that none of us can without the consent of Congress collect a present and emolument which means a payment in office or a title from a prince a king or a foreign government of any kind whatever and this president gave the game away when he paid $350,000 into the US Treasury saying that that represented the profits on the foreign government business he's been doing of course the Constitution doesn't ban profits advance any payments at all I do want to ask you because you represent the state of Maryland about your thoughts on the president's attacks this weekend against congressman Elijah Cummings and his district calling it a disgusting rat and rodent infested mess and saying no human being would want to live there here's how the president's acting chief of staff is defending the attacks today mr. Cummings saying that the children were sleeping or sitting in their own feces that that's just not that's not right it's not accurate when the president hears lies like that he is going to fight back and that's what you saw in those tweets has absolutely zero to do with race congressman what's your response well we've seen six and now I think it's seven children who've died in the custody and the care of the US government which represents the people so that goes way beyond just a dirty diaper no child had died in our custody for a decade before that isn't I understand that so we're talking about wretched conditions that they have allowed to grow up in these different detention centers I'm going to be going down there in a couple of days with a group of colleagues to inspect because we're trying to be present as much as possible to let them know that we're watching but there's severe overcrowding there have been outbreaks of lice of chicken pox of influenza really cruel bitter conditions there so the president apparently didn't like the criticism and decided to lash out at Elijah Cummings that the irony here of course is the president United States at least we all thought was supposed to be President of the whole country and so if there are problems in Donald Trump's native New York or in Baltimore presumably there are all of our problems and we should all be committed to trying to improve conditions one way we can improve conditions is not waste 30 or 40 billion dollars on a border wall but to invest right here in America so we thought that his attack on Elijah Cummings was as scandalous and outrageous even if predictable at this point congressman Jamie Raskin I really appreciate your time tonight thank you for joining us and thanks so much for having me coming up new reporting about the dynamic we can expect between Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders on the debate stage but first the debate that included this backhanded compliment what can you say to the voters of New Hampshire on this stage tonight who see a resume and like it but are hesitating on the likability issue where they seem to like Barack Obama more well that hurts my feelings I'm sorry but I'll try to go on he's very likeable I agree with that I don't think it's when senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren take our debate stage Tuesday night both are facing pressure to be back the Democratic Party's moderate wing and both helped Forge the current progressive movement to the left so the question is will they take measures to distinguish themselves from each other at the others expense want to bring in CNN political correspondent MJ Lee I know you've been digging in on the campaigns and what the strategy is what are they telling you well it's really interesting on both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren over the last couple of days every time that they've been asked about the other candidate they have really emphasized the fact that they're friends that they have worked together a lot but they actually see eye-to-eye on a lot of different issues which happens to be true we've been talking also to the various campaign aides that work for both Sanders and Warren and this is what a Warren spokesperson said they said Elizabeth considers Bernie a close friend and is looking forward to sharing the stage with him and others and basically added that she is going to keep her head down and continue talking about the issues that she cares about similarly a Bernie campaign aide saying that there are no plans right now for Bernie Sanders to go out of his way to draw those distinctions though he's not going to shy away if he is explicitly asked about some of the differences so really interesting that they're both trying to sort of downplay the possibility of fireworks but I have to say obviously these debates ages are really unpredictable in terms of what kinds of questions they might get not to mention there are eight other candidates who are going to try to throw some punches probably at the two frontrunners at our Center State and try to get them to mix it up I actually asked Bernie Sanders a couple of weeks ago or not even two weeks ago how he and Elizabeth Warren differentiate on the issue of health care and he'd completely sidestep it he said well let me tell you about my plan right so will be interesting to see where he goes with that they are very similar in their fundraising numbers which is interesting right because neither of them are holding these big high-dollar fundraisers that's right the second quarter fundraiser numbers I thought were so fascinating because it basically showed that for both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren even though they are not doing the traditional high dollar fundraisers they were able to raise a lot of money on almost 20 million dollars for each of them actually so they were able to show that they can have that kind of sort of firepower in terms of fundraising even without doing those fundraisers are asking for money from these wealthy donors so I think the third quarter is going to be really revealing because it will show us can they keep up that kind of momentum when it comes to money and then for the other top tier candidates like Joe Biden like Pete Budaj Kamala Harris I think they are going to be tested in a different way because remember some of the big donors that have already written sort of maxed out their checks the last quarter or earlier this year they can't give to them again so I think they are going to be tested in a different way and then for everybody else if they can't raise the money they can't go and the debate stage either okay Thank You MJ good to have you with us coming up ready to rumble as we countdown to the CNN debates we take you behind the scenes to see what it takes to stand out and gain ground in the crowded twenty20 fields for 48 hours away now from the first of two CNN Democratic presidential debates so what does it take to stand out here's CNN's chief political analyst Gloria Borger it is kickoff rally California Congressman Eric's wawel was center stage but at the first primary debate he was nearly off the stage walking out is that is really intimidating you're just pointing at people like I don't know if I know you're not but you know I'm pointing and waving then you feel like you're just like completely you know vulnerable and just everyone's looking at you that debate would be his last today and our presidential campaign our polling just you know it stayed flat it didn't it didn't go anywhere it remaining at less than one percent and as the field lines up for the to CNN debates the pressure is really on because in the fall securing podium spots will be twice as hard so Detroit could be the end of the trail maybe 12 13 of these candidates there's not going to be another shot after this to some extent not qualifying for the next debate is is a death sentence there's a lot of ways to screw up a debate what is essential is to think about what can I do so that there won't be a total disaster here McCain attack phrases Bradley attack phrases Stuart Stevens has prepped Republican candidates from George W Bush and Dick Cheney to Mitt Romney ideally before debate you look at your polling and you'd say who do I need to talk to you would never make an ad that just says well I don't know I'm not sure if it's gonna apply to it be like shooting a shotgun in the air and hoping ducks fly by right what really drives coverage in these debates is friction it has taken someone on as Kamala Harris did attacking Joe Biden's record on bussing there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools and she was bused to school every day and that little girl it was me she's won once she says that because she's to find herself and she got her bio and you you like that person and you're pulling for that person so it didn't seem contrived it was a different stream prepared and contrived I think prepared as you've thought about it she's comfortable talking about race and it shows Biden was uncomfortable being challenged in that way and that showed too I mean your president United States your vice president you walk in a room people usually applaud and you're not used to having somebody get in your face if you were advising Joe Biden right now what would you tell them to do be on offense offense be on offense you are there to win votes you're not there to defend your lead that's fine if you're Biden or if you're Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders fighting over many of the same voters but if you're not a name-brand candidate breaking out can be hard to do and there's other alternatives up there that are acceptable there's always this question like why are you on the Shelf I mean do we really need like eight variations of barbecue potato chips when you're speaking you just like feel the glare of the moderators looking at you like you're not the top tier person stop speaking like you can just like feel you know that so you had like five minutes four minutes and 45 seconds but who's counting yeah what can you do really in that amount of time have a moment that gets replaced solve the issues of climate chaos pass a torch if we're gonna solve the issue of student loan debt pass the torch if we're gonna end gun violence for families who are fearful of sending their kids to school pass the torch do you think you've got a little too torching there again you know I I thought all of these issues as someone who has worked on you know gun violence and student loan debt that many of them are generational didn't look a little contrived though too many torches yeah you know one one fewer torch in these debates preparation can be everything you can't do it for five minutes here or there they get no lifeline it's them it's the camera the audience no comments there's no phone a friend and they're gonna sink or swim and that's where you know this is an important test in the process and after all that studying and all those rehearsals how does it feel backstage when your candidate goes off script it's a very special feeling when you're standing it you know you're standing there watching the television and you're thinking what are they doing that is not what we said right on the other hand I will say as a campaign manager there is no way for you to know what it is like public failure is never easy but with 20 candidates it's more than likely you have to be willing first of all to admit that you're probably going to lose and be willing to lose and stand for something you can try too hard running for president and it will always come back and bite you so it's a fine line for every candidate on stage and press but don't look like you're trying too hard you know wanna just be yourself thanks Gloria – jaws Chinatown in Saturday Night Fever the 1970s saw the rise of a new generation of directors and actors that ushered in a completely new era of filmmaking in Hollywood it's the subject of tonight's brand-new episodes of the movies the Queen to me of the 1970s was Pam Grier and she was playing a black heroine who I mean there would never black women who got to be assertive and had guns and took on villains and as a black girl as I was at the time seeing this larger-than-life beautiful woman coming out triumphant at the end was amazing what I've loved but Pam Grier is that she is badass but she's sexy at the same time she was really a unique presence at that time guys interested in her as a six and okay joining us now Alicia Malone host of Turner Classic Movies Alicia the 1970s are considered a second golden age for American movies what was happening in Hollywood that led to this new era of groundbreaking filmmaking well at the end of the 1960s studio films had big budgets but they weren't making their money back because they just didn't connect with modern audiences so that really opened the door and paved the way for these new young hungry filmmakers making riskier films with smaller budgets that were part of the counterculture that they were catering to a lot of these movies and the 70s push the envelope do you think a movie like blazing saddles or cabaret could get made today definitely not and at least not in the same way because both of those films are very much products of what was happening in America at the time cabaret dark it's about politics and corruption Blazing Saddles very subversive humorous about racism I think Mel Brooks had a tough enough time making it back there and I don't think it could be made today when comedies honest topical and definitely not as nuanced do you have a favorite movie from the 70s yeah I know it's sacrilegious to not say The Godfather but mine is taxi driver because Martin Scorsese to me defines the 1970s I don't think that film could have been made in any other era it really speaks to the mood of the time it's so dark and gritty I love it I love grease that is one of my favorites of all time i watch it over and over and over again as a girl I could recite all the lines and sing all the songs along with it Danny that one is absolute babe exactly thank you Lisa Malone good to see you brand-new episode of the movies there's tonight at 9 right here on CNN coming up why presidential debates are a perfect fodder for satire the slot that the Obamacare approach was to take and like I say 20 million people now have health insurance number 2 she broke it with Obama she and Obama stole my microphone the ticket dependent that took my microphone to Kenya and they broken it now it's broken picking up somebody sniffing here I think it's her snips she's been sniffing all night testing testing China Secretary Clinton what do you think about that I think I'm gonna be President so what moments will inspire future parodies be sure to tune in the CNN Democratic presidential debates ere Tuesday and Wednesday night ten candidates each night starting at 8:00 Eastern only here on CNN you don't want to miss it thank you so much for joining me great to have you with us the past few hours that does it for us tonight I'm onna Cabrera in Detroit up next it's the CNN original series the movies the best films of the 2000s

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