2PM - CNN Newsroom (7/30/19): Trump's choice for the Spy Chief and the Senator's reaction

2PM – CNN Newsroom (7/30/19): Trump's choice for the Spy Chief and the Senator's reaction



we are so excited to be here in Detroit good to be with you I'm Brooke Baldwin you are watching CNN special live coverage just in front of that Fox Theater it is game day we are just six hours away the city's crown jewel the Fox Theater will fill its stage with 10 Democratic presidential candidates for night one of two high stakes and debates it has been a little more than a month since these Democrats first faced off but a lot has happened so significant health care plans have been announced racist rhetoric from the President of the United States testimony from former special counsel robert muller discussions that could make or break who challenges President Trump in 2020 these candidates are converging in Detroit fresh off some new poll numbers let me show these for you Joe Biden is holding on to his frontrunner status with a double-digit lead over who's 2020 rivals he and you see there senator Elizabeth Warren surging in this latest poll while support for Senator Kamala Harris and senator Bernie Sanders has slipped now this could also be a pivotal night for lower polling candidates ie better o'rourke who CNN caught prepping for his debate performance this way check it out he's feeling about the debate I'm feeling good feeling good what are you doing to prepare I think I want to say tonight other candidates starting to arrive here at the historic Fox Theater taking individual walkthroughs of the stage getting the lay of the land getting a first look at what to expect and we have CNN's on a Cabrera inside an Donna you see anyone right now oh yes we have congressman Tim Ryan here he just arrived he's a congressman from Ohio been in Congress since 2003 you can see him just taking his place behind the podium getting acquainted with the space and with the final logistics of tonight's debate ahead of the big event he he follows Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren who've also been through already along with Marianne Williamson a lot of eyes though will be on that center stage of Warren and Sanders the two fiery progressives two good friends will they find a way tonight to differentiate themselves from each other on the campaign trail they really avoided that they've said let me just tell you about my plan instead of pointing out their differences with each other that strategy so far seems to be working for Elizabeth Warren who has seen a steady rise in the polls a little less so for Bernie Sanders both of them of course follow Joe Biden in the polls so will either of them have an opportunity tonight to break out also on stage on debate night one will be mayor Pete Budaj and that to her work both young both more moderate a lot of analysts say those two may be pulling support from each other Pete Budaj edge has proven to be a fantastic fundraiser but he has seen a little bit of a dip in the polls recently he's struggled with african-americans he says don't expect any canned lines from him his campaign tells us as with everything he will be prepared better or work he really needs a boost his poll numbers have been going down his fundraising has been going down we're told ahead of this debate he went back and watched his last debate and he is making some adjustments expect him to be less robotic more confident in a lot of ways his campaign says he feels a little bit liberated there isn't the pressure to be a big gun anymore he's more of an underdog and they hope that loosens him up he is actually going to be doing his walkthrough next and again as these walkthroughs continued they're getting those final details about what they can expect tonight they're reviewing the debate rules and format here's just a reminder for you at home as well as far as that goes opening and closing statements tonight remember there were no opening statements last time around so that's something that's new each candidate's going to have 60 seconds to respond to questions from moderators they'll have 30 seconds for rebuttal Zoar responses to each other they'll also have reven different light colors so that they'll know exactly where they are when it comes to the time that they have to spend there will be no show of hands questions there will be no down the line one-word answers and by the way those who keep interrupting they're gonna have their time reduced when they speak a little bit later and for those who are watching at home you'll always be able to look at the bottom of the screen to know which questions they are responding to directly Brooke we are now less than six hours from show time back to you those are the rules of the road it is live television we cannot wait thank you for for showing us congressman Ryan and we'll keep our eyes peeled for other candidates rolling through there the Fox Theater honor thank you so much ten candidates so much at stake here CNN political director David Chalian is here to tell us what he's gonna be watching for so closely this evening so welcome to the David Chalian Super Bowl Park so I'm pretty excited for this event tonight so I think one of the like quintessential questions this is like the down the road will be you know what fires out the Democratic electorate more and who did they fake could beat Trump is it more of a progressive right or is it pragmatic moderate and that ideological divide the state tonight I think that's gonna be the big storyline to watch for tonight and you know there's been this conversation some of the more establishment centrist Democrats have were expressing concern after the first debates in Miami that the worry that the party baby moving too far left now center stage tonight we have those progressives Bernie su and Elizabeth Warren who say no no this is how you create a movement this is how you get new people into the process you broaden your tent by proposing policies that really enliven the Democratic base so there is a divide there but I do think what you'll see from the moderates against those progressives is this notion of if you move too far left do you make it harder for the Democrats to oust Trump in the general life but what about those two center stage tonight when you're looking you know at Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders they like each other yeah so but they each want to be president do they are they nice or do they have sharp elbows I will be surprised to one another right no I I would be surprised in the Sanders versus Warren matchup if we see a ton of sharp oh okay I do think what you the mission for them of course as you know they are friendly they also agree on a lot of the issues Brooke and so I think the mission for them is how did they make an electability argument that they are the one that can best take it to Donald Trump now that won't be necessarily you know I'm Elizabeth Warren it's not you Bernie you can't do it right I don't think it'll be that but I do think it is incumbent upon them they are center stage they're the leaders of this field tonight on the debates a yeah they make the case to democratic voters that even if their policies may be more progressive and to the left that they actually are the ones that can take the banner of the Democratic Party announced Donald Trump from The Oval Office because as you know that is mission critical for Democratic voters right standing next to them you have people who to judge and Beto Aurora who is this a reboot or than a no vote yeah I mean I I really do want to see I'm watching congressman or work because you remember he had all of that buzz from his Texas Senate race fact last year and then in anticipation of him getting in to the race and his launch this year but it really has been a story of decline since then the dowels and fundraising and he has tried to reboot as you noted a couple times this is mom looking to see does he see his path back to being a serious contender as going through mayor Budaj who I think did steal some of the old war thunder as the new generation alternative to some of the names that have been around for a while what do you mean go through him like take him on yes does you have to find a way to sort of peel whatever support Gouda judge does have peel some of that away is that his path to getting back into contention I'm curious to see if he thinks that's the case he tends to not want to go directly at people you know we didn't find it would Ted Cruz in the Senate race he kind of backed off it he wants to do the bigger inspirational thing but he's in a position of it he has to prove his worth in this race and so I do want to see how he takes on mayor Budaj into that and then the rest yeah no words here candidate yes the moderates they are I call a lot of them the one-percenters I mean they're there there are five people on the stage polling really below the other five and that bottom half is a do-or-die night for them as you know the DNC has doubled the threshold by cellaring and for fundraising to get onto the September and October debate stages and Brooke I would say if you are you know Tim Ryan who we just saw right there this is or Steve Bullock the governor of Montana is brand-new to the stage I'm gonna introduce himself to voters this is a moment where you have to have a really dynamic winning moment a night a real breakthrough kind of moment versus yeah you're not gonna be route have the argument to make us to why you should maintain a campaign both the donors and voters got it yes David Chalian thank you very much thank you thank you thank you and do you think you know all about the people taking the stage here tonight do you know who plays the didgeridoo or who officiated over one of Elizabeth Taylor's weddings coming up next a couple of things that might surprise you about some of these candidates there on your screen and no more mr. nice guy for Senator Cory Booker with attacks on Joe Biden getting increasingly personal we will talk live to his campaign manager about the plan to take on the former vice president and in just moments Beto O'Rourke and Amy Klobuchar will arrive there at the Fox Theater for their own walk throughs at the CNN debate site here in Detroit stay right here you're watching CNN I'm Brooke Baldwin all right we're back here live in Detroit and this is always the fun part I know the action starts at 8:00 o'clock tonight inside that historic Fox Theater just across the street from me but check this out you have former Texas congressman Beto O'Rourke getting the lay of the land where he'll stand positioning he knows he knows the rules of the road right that's been explained to him he's been prepping you know this really could be make-or-break for him as we were just talking to David Chalian our political director he will be standing outside of this the two in the center Warren and Sanders then will be flanked by O'Rourke and Pete Buddha judge so this is just a fun moment to be able to see him on that stage ahead of our big CNN debate night number one so with me now Mitch Landrieu he led New Orleans from 2010 to 2011 er of the great state of Louisiana and he also wrote the book in the shadow of statues a white southerner confronts history so mr. mayor a pleasure little self too good at so do you have pangs of bad I wish I was on that stage you know I don't know I feel for him I've been through you know ran nine campaigns and I've been probably through 40 or 50 debates so I know what they're feeling yeah today and it's a little anxious and nervous for what who do you think is best for this country when it comes to there's this debate now progressive or more pragmatic moderate candidate who would excite the electorate woo there goes the electorate more who do you think has a better chance of meeting Trump well those are those may be two separate issues right the most important thing is to find somebody who's gonna be present in Trump at the end of the day that should be everybody's focus any time that somebody's running for office if we have twenty twenty one candidates running they're going to be bumping up against each other this is much more of a roller derby than it is a horse race and somebody will come out of the pack and and start the excite the base the challenge is how you do that but at the same time positioning yourself to win the general election and these helps more between that camp well you know there are some first of all like Joe Biden I think his level of stability and his experience excites people you have all the candidates out there that are really kind of blowing it off the charts in terms of ideas and plans Elizabeth Warren steps out but listen there are a whole bunch of really good candidates that are in this race and in these debates they will show themselves over time now they don't have a whole lot of time because when you get into the third debate the field will start to thin just a little bit so we'll see how it works out we'll see how they do tonight um one new way of thinking this is what CNN host Michael Smerconish was saying earlier today watch this there's a crosstab in those numbers that's that's not on the screen but 51% of Democrats say that they regard Joe Biden as the strongest challenger for President Trump and that's why I go back to that thought process that I have that the president's behavior has been really all over the map Biden hasn't done anything to distinguish himself that's not a wrap on him it just hasn't been a monumental series of events and yet his numbers go up I think it's because Democrats say we really need to defeat him who among us can do it it's Joe Biden so somehow tonight and tomorrow night these other candidates have got to convince that they too have that stature to take on the president do you think Joe Biden has the best shot at beating Trump yeah at this moment he does why how there's any question about it I think the American people are looking for stability I think they're looking for experience and I don't think they're looking for a revolution however all the pundits tend to be wrong all the time that's why you have election so you have to listen to what the road is say and they have to show up Vice President Biden didn't have a great night you know the first debate I think people are expecting him to show up tonight they're gonna have because you have different candidates on different nights you'll have different people bumping up against each other and then pushing him and you can see from the last debate notwithstanding the difficult performance that he had his numbers went up and so the the thing I keep you know want to tell the candidates is listen to the voters I mean we have opinions about who did well or who didn't evidently from the last debate it didn't hurt him very much although everybody pretty much panned as a performance so I think you have to wait but the shortest distance between two points is somebody in my opinion that eventually is gonna bring stability and then can unite not just the Democratic Party but the entire country what about on the issue of race right this is something we've been talking about for months and months but especially in the last couple of days because of the president because of what he said about the city of Baltimore and Chairman Elijah Cummings he's still standing by those attacks he's still standing by his attacks on the squad right that the the the women of color the freshman congresswoman and so this is what Washington Post opinion writer greg sargent actually pulled this is the question he posed today and I want your thoughts your answer he wrote widest Trump need to do this to win reelection given his own constant suggestion that America is winning everywhere and the Trump economy is the greatest in US history why what is the end well first of all race is this nation's most significant Achilles heel slavery was our original sin we have never really adequately dealt with the issue of race in America it's not true that we've gotten through it or over it we haven't actually done that we've never in the history of America had a president that's given voice to the worst instincts that some people in America feel in the south which is where both you and I are from you know the incredible damage that this can have now normally it's been relegated to people like George Wallace but the president today looks like George Wallace just in a nicer tie and I don't think the language that he used is right I think it's unconscionable I whether he's not in intentionally or whether he's not doing it intentionally it's not good to have a president speaking this way because when a person speaks about other people based on the color of their skin and not on the behavior that is racist language and if you continue to use it intentionally it means that you are a racist and I just can't imagine no matter how good the economy is that the American citizens are gonna put up with this for a time I've seen voter panels where some say you know youyou wince at what this president says or does but hey I've got a job my family's got a job I think that's right but I think we have to continue to make the case that the one thing that is sacrosanct in the United States of America is that we all come to the table of democracy as equals and when anybody treats anybody else a different way based on race creed or color or assumes a position of superiority because of your race that is called white supremacy and the one thing that we should not abide by in this country is is that language are acting on that language and it should be called out on every step the president should be ashamed of himself he's completely wrong you know by the way besides it being racist he's just factually wrong about a couple of different things which is this a couple he's the most important he's the most powerful person in the world right now yeah the only way that you can rebuild a great American city which is what I was able to do with a whole bunch of other people in New Orleans after Katrina was having the help of the federal government through the President President Obama having the governor working with us have the mayor all working together to rebuild areas and oh by the way there are a whole lot of congressmen other than a logic Cummings that a white and southern that represent districts with high levels of poverty so attacks race to it and to rip us apart is a whole lot different from the president saying you know what we have a lot of problems in this country both in urban and rural America and I'm gonna do some things to actually change that and work with people rather than trying to tear them down and I just think what he's doing and how he's done it is terrible not only for where we are today but for the future of this country and that's why I think he needs to be turned out of office and I'm pretty sure the people of America are gonna do it Mayor Mitch Landrieu welcome to CNN feelings are great to be here thank you very much thank you just a short drive away from us here in Detroit Flint Michigan did you know people are still coping with a water crisis lining up for miles just to get bottled water still will talk to Michigan congresswoman Alyssa Plotkin about she hopes to hear from candidates when it comes to suffering in her own state and to CNN exclusive to TSA officers have been placed on leave afternoon welcome back I'm Brooke Baldwin we are live here in Detroit it is debate day and right now my next guest is part of the Democratic women waves that swept to victory in a 2018 midterm she is congresswoman ELISA slot conceived lipped Michigan's eighth District a district that was considered safe ground for Republicans and tell she came along and just this morning she co introduced the fire act a bill to prevent foreign interference in US elections so congressman this lock in good to see you again you too okay let's first just talk about you and thanks for having us in Michigan by the way welcome nice nice digs beautiful to be in a great state the best so you flipped you did what many thought was unthinkable beating out this long-term incumbent Republican to win your district and get a seat in Congress and you ran on more of a centrist message and I'm wondering because one of the great debates is who will be best to take Don Donald Trump is it someone who is more progressive or more centrist more moderate based on your own experience what do you think yeah I mean I think Michigan is a perfect laboratory for this and I think what wins here are people who appeal to a broad base of constituents who are welcoming and bring people in instead of having litmus tests for you know whatever issue yeah so in my experience you have to be a pragmatist Michiganders are very pragmatic you have to have character and be a person of integrity and you have to focus on economic issues right it's not pie in the sky it's how do you put more money in people's wallets how do you take care of their kids hasn't that been a winning strategy for this current president and what about not just Michigan but nationwide yeah I mean listen the economy is strong yeah the question is who is it strong for and I think there are a ton of people in my district who would say you know yes I'm working but the job has no benefits no opportunities no upward mobility they are doing in some cases worse than their parents right and there's nothing more painful than not being able to provide for your kids what your parents provided for you so that to me it's the income inequality is still a huge issue people don't want a handout they just want a level playing field and that's what they're searching for in a candidate how about your mom we've talked about this I mean I know health care is near and dear for you you lost your mom to ovarian cancer and that was one of the reasons I believe that you wanted to run and so one of the huge issues obviously is Medicare for all how do you feel about this notion of Medicare for all what about a public option and do you think that in order to pay for it you have to tax a middle class yeah so for me I did get in this race ultimately because of health care and the threat to people with pre-existing conditions yeah my mom had I am you know a big believer that everyone deserves health care that they can access how we do that is literally our generations problem to solve I am a believer in a buy into Medicare I think that anyone at any age should be able to buy in but I think that's how we educate people and show people that we can actually have a government option that makes sense I don't support Medicare for all right now because I have a ton of people in my district will say you know I can't even see the government succeeding at little things why should I believe or I want to give them responsibility for everything so you got to give people exposure and a buy into Medicare so that you know if you want to leave your job and become an entrepreneur you can do that you have an option any of these candidates plans in particular that you really like you know I've seen some interesting things I think that there's a misperception that everyone wants wholesale restructuring of our of our culture of our society and I just don't think that that's the case of different for my voters people want the middle class to have a chance at prosperity and dignity yeah that is what we want it's not overly complicated it's the most American thing in the world they're looking for that not for whole scale change speaking of dignity Flint Michigan there are people still in line years after that water crisis yes still in line for water that water is still contaminated why is that still happening yeah so I live 15 minutes from Flint and it was an apocalyptic poisoning of an American city unfortunately in Michigan right now we have over 80 communities with higher lead levels in Flint and we have a chemical called PFS which if you haven't heard of it you soon will Michigan has the highest number of sites in the country and I think Michigan is unfortunately going to be the state that sort of fields this existential question of whether clean water out of your cap is a right or a privilege do we get that as taxpaying Americans or do only certain communities wealthy communities get clean water I believe it is a right and the fact that the Great Lakes state 80% of the United States fresh water is here in our state and yet we're struggling to provide clean drinking water for people is an abomination and people feel it and so the the whole thing for me is environmental security is homeland security you can't give your kid a glass of water without thinking they'd get a learning disability that is a threat to your family it is not some crunchy left-wing thing it is environmental security homeland security on security you were in the CIA you've done tours of Iraq Pentagon worked in defense in your previous chapter of your life and I wanted to just ask you just based upon your own experience your thoughts on this potential Director of National Intelligence Congressman John Radcliffe let me play first this is what the president said about him just this morning well John Radcliffe is a brilliant man he is a wonderful person I spoke to him long before about this long before months ago I spoke to him long before the Muller Fiasco that was a fiasco I think probably nobody in the history of Capitol Hill has embarrassed themselves like what Muller did to himself and to the Democrats but John Radcliffe I spoke to him about this for a long time he's a very talented guy he's a strong man it's what we need in that position you see who you need in that position I mean you know I'm gonna try and give him the benefit of the doubt but the most important thing at the CIA at the DA's office is you need intellectual integrity right you need to be able to see what's happening in the intelligence and then portray that to the president honestly and that's hard sometimes because it's all often what not what a president wants to hear but is the responsibility of a cabinet level secretary I don't know this gentleman very well even though we've served together for a short time yeah to me we will be able to know pretty quickly the senior staff are all going to be looking you know is this guy gonna defend the intelligence community stand up for them and represent what the truth is or is he gonna try and manipulate it you'll know pretty quickly I can still hear Robert Miller's words from last week you know Russia is still meddling as we speak up they are and to me I you know I started a task force the first bipartisan Task Force on protecting ourselves in 2020 we haven't actually changed the laws so that we're more protected and you know things like if someone offers you you know stolen and intelligence on your opponent is that okay to take that right no right no it's not Congress wants lock-in thank you so much for coming on it is good to see you we continue on get ready to see a very different side of Senator Cory Booker up on that stage

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