11PM | CNN Newsroom 7/28/19 [FULL] | President Trump Breaking News Today July 28, 2019

11PM | CNN Newsroom 7/28/19 [FULL] | President Trump Breaking News Today July 28, 2019



I'm Natalie Allen at CNN center in Atlanta and we are following breaking news here a shooting has occurred in California at a food festival near San Jose this is video new into CNN from a witness the sound of gunshots there at people running as this festival was about to end this is when it happened it happened in Gilroy California at the annual and very popular Gilroy Garlic Festival marketed as one of the country's largest food festivals according to local news reports quoting witnesses there are people hurt and a law enforcement official tells us that the ATF is responding this tweeted a short time ago from the Gilroy California Police Department it says the hearts of Gilroy PD and entire community go out to the victims of today's shooting at the Garlic Festival the scene is still active we are closely following the developments from this breaking news CNN's Paul Vercammen is monitoring the story from our LA Bureau also with the CNM crime and justice reporter Shimon Procope s thank you both guys I know you're working sources on this story Paul first to you what do we know about what happened and do we have information about whether this shooter has been apprehended no information of that nature yet Natalie this is a still developing story but we do know that witnesses have told CNN that they heard multiple shots fired here at the Garlic Festival and some of you may be asking where is Gilroy California it's about 80 miles south of San Francisco and as you alluded to earlier this is an extremely popular event garlic is big agribusiness in the Gilroy area so this is very well attended we've seen numerous reports that you know suggest that many victims have been taken to local hospitals and people have reported that they have seen people on the ground at this festival but right now the information is just trickling in and as you showed earlier the Gilroy Police Department saying active shooters so it is not known whether or not Natalie to your question that shooter has been apprehended right well I've just gotten news from our producers here that the shooter has not been apprehended so let's talk about what that situation could be there were reports that security has been stepped up this year because of the problem with mass shootings at various festivals in the United States but somehow this person has gotten into this festival and cost utter mayhem any word on how many people could have been affected that's an area that we're very careful not to give you great detail on we've seen some wild swings in the reports and because it's just trickling in Natalie we're not sure all we know that this is indeed a mass shooting certainly it's not an isolated incident where we're hearing of one or two but until we can get authorities to get on record with us with how many people they believe been shot we're just not going to venture a guess right now but we do know that there are reports of multiple victims being taken to local hospitals and we have seen the reports and the tweets about multiple people being seen on the ground at this very crowded Garlic Festival and as you speak we're getting first video right here from Gilroy aerial video you can see fire trucks and police cars that have it responded let's go to shamone for us in new york city our crime injustice reporter so maybe you could shed light on when something like this breaks out the Gilroy is as you can see on the map it is not that near large cities so talk with us about what the response would be like and where they would pull resources and from so certainly the neighboring counties is something you'd see law enforcement police officers from nearby obviously you also have the California Highway Patrol you could see some of their vehicles there the video their SUVs they are on scene so they can respond pretty quickly with with additional resources the ATF as we heard they were responding so they would bring in resources as well as the FBI from-from probably San Jose they would respond as well and assist with whatever resources they could a lot of times what you're seeing especially I think what we can tell from what we're seeing right now and hearing from now right now is that I don't think police have a great handle on the situation again there were reports of possible two shooters you hear that a lot in active shooter situations sometimes Witnesses are mistaken but police are still searching going through the festival they're also looking for victims and sometimes what happens in these situations EMS the medical technicians that arrive and go into these scenes they need to go in with police they need to go in with tactical gear especially when it's believed that the suspect a shooter is still loose they would have to go in and try and find victims and that can delay sometimes getting to victims and that's why we're not hearing probably a good number yet on some of the injured also in a situation like this you have a lot of people running and so they could trip over each other people sometimes get trampled in these situations and that is how they get injured not necessarily shot so that's what we see going on here obviously it's a massive massive police response there could have been thousands of people at this festival according to their website the Gilroy Garlic Festival it's a three-day festival a lot of food there's entertainment people do pay to go to this but there's really it's an all-day event it ends around six o'clock West Coast time so the shooting it seems when we first started getting word of this shooting that he came at the end of the festival nine o'clock Eastern Time around that time sometime after that is when we started getting word that the shooting had occurred so this seems to have occurred at the end of it right where you know what just about two hours into this incident so it's not uncommon for police and given the when you look at the video they're from the helicopter you can tell it's a pretty big area where this happened lots of tents so probably there had to have been a lot of people there so from what I can tell and based on some of the stuff that I've heard that the EMS workers the police they were still going through the scene trying to find victims making sure that they could clear it and they're still as far as we know looking for at least one shooter yes that that is the information we have here thank you so much stand by because now we have an eyewitness on the line with told Mike what can you tell us about what you experience when you first realized that someone was shooting machine I started running and we hit the ground and I literally laid down on the ground and he was still shooting after he stopped shoots that's when I got up and I started to learn into a truck and as I started to run he started back shooting and he was shooting he shot the lady that was why the right next to me I'm kind of here behind an enterprise truck and in behind an enterprise ship with the lady her murder and the sheriff and my family and so the lady was like okay the chef was like those are not hit and the guy was still shoots and when we stopped the chef sorted weak and one of my family loves to jump over the fence a run and after we do which we are doing so with a fence and run out I'm not sure I think this is all like a nightmare because I don't believe this is reality right now I'm sure it's very hard to comprehend with it something like this happens that it's real did you see the shooter we were located we were located about 15 feet from the shooter there was no other way for us to work how many bullets how rapidly was to see an assault rifle it was warned there was a lot of bullets that was coming they were coming in the only reason why we're going because we was just that close to that shooter how close were you we were about 15 feet away from their shooter he came in the area when we were eating oh my goodness 15 thank you I'm sorry what was he wearing he was wearing army fatigue yes fatigue did he just work where did you where would he have walked out from can you describe the area we're eating area there's nothing food areas it's like a horseshoe and where he was located he came between $1 billion in the chute could you tell how many people he was able to shoot any idea as people lay there did you see a police response I know this happened so quickly but were there police on the scene yeah I was hiding with a police officer the lady that was shot it was me and the sheriff we she was officer was right there she was idling who was with you that was able to get away with you Makeda that's the one that she instructed for us to go and she stayed with the lady that was shot and her little daughter they stayed up under the enterprise truck what were you hearing around you other than the shots were people screaming were they yelling is blood everywhere in it totally understand we can hear as you're talking we're rolling video you can hear the gunshots popping in the distance there and this was the end of the festival we were there it was there music still going on and was everything ramping up this is a very popular festival for this region a lot of families go to this is this something that you frequent often how close do you think you you got to being shot by this shooter I know this is a very popular festival and all the proceeds go to help supporting this community it's been going on since the 70s how many people would you say were there that you can see dozens hundreds have you been told where to go or have you been advised of where people are congregating or being told to go for safety yeah they're being told to go to like a high school and you can remember some families are just being let go and they can walk out and they're able to come at least not family member that I just reunited with about 20 minutes ago so I have well well Makeda you're so very fortunate I know you know that and you know so many people innocent people get caught up in these mass shootings that we see all too often in this country and it's like you're in a state of shock you don't realize what's happening whether it's fireworks whether it's a shooting what was going through your mind immediately did you know this is a shooting no I do not a little regarding those pop pop pop and when that second round came it became real to me and when I lay down my head and when he stopped back when I ran that everything on the that was it it was Now or Never yes it worked how far did you have to run to take cover 20 feet how long did you hide out there over that gate and get out of you and how long was that before he kept there who was with you that was a family member was it a child was it an adult how are they doing are you feel okay to drive and how far do you live well I know that you're in a state of shock and it's just terrifying thank you so much for joining us and you're able to tell us our story because we want to speak with people that just witnessed this and we're so thankful that you and your family member okay Mikey to prize Thank You Mikey – and we wish you all the best thank you thank you let's talk about what we just heard was seeing a national security analyst Juliette Khayyam joining us and CNN law enforcement analyst Charles Ramsey first to you Juliette were you listening to that witness then do you have some thoughts of course this is a single eyewitness and while our hearts go out to her we also have to remember that her viewpoint is just one so what she's seen is obviously from her perspective we don't know if there's one or two shooters we don't know the exact weapon but obviously there's going to be multiple eyewitness reports and that's how the police are going to put a picture together of how many people they're looking for the second thing is this is an active case as far as we can tell right now and I think the biggest hint about that is because the police department have not come out formally it's been a little while that they normally come out relatively quickly so that we are in pursuit so to speak or someone is and we'll just have to wait because obviously the most important thing is the saving of life the third and just quickly is this focus on family unification unfortunately you and I and CNN have done enough of these at this stage that the key the sort of primary a priority issue right now is family unification I was looking on the Twitter feed for the Gilbert Police Department they do have a phone number four oh eight eight four six oh five eight three the most important thing is to get families together that's how you have an accounting of who is there and that's obviously how you get people to remain calm and be calm once she wants a mother knows that her child is okay then things tend to get a little bit better after that so with their focus on family unification which is is key and important and the most important thing today obviously right and let's talk about the chaos when when people start hearing a gunshots that they've not even sure they're gunshots and people may never heard gunshots or whether it's fireworks in the chaos of where to go where to run and how to figure out where it's coming from so on this this is a song I was looking at pictures of the previous pictures of what the festival so this looks like a sort of typical festival there's a couple entry points and then everything is just sort of open and there's booze and selling I know this is a popular festival amongst restauranteurs and food by food purchasers so you're really I'm not gonna probably have a lot they're gonna have a single or double evacuation points it's probably going to be everyone's just sort of running for cover I think what that also suggests is that security would be very very difficult once you're inside the perimeter and it's not at all clear how much security was at getting into the perimeter I'm seeing different reports so I don't want to say conclusively but one could suspect that it you know it's not like enter inna an NFL football stadium that is probably quite lacks and so we also don't know if there was forced entry so this is one of your sort of worst-case scenarios in which you have an enclosed and you have an enclosed area that someone has gone into and no probably no organization around how people get out of that area that's why police are focused on family unification because you have to suspect people got separated from the people they were there they were with when they entered yeah right it's not like a music festival where everyone's sitting together you know there's music there's food it's it's a family event Juliet thank you we're going to talk now with Charles Ramsey he is the former police commissioner for Philadelphia Charles what are the first steps police will be taking in this investigation and this search well there's a couple of things they're doing one they've got to identify and locate any wounded to try to get them out of there so they can get medical treatment you just for a moment we've got another witness joining us now let's listen okay he grabs me get on the ground now I thought he was joking and everybody was leaving there was a lot of confusion I would imagine and very chaotic scene with a number of children around people looking for their kids – and as soon as the gunfire started everybody scattered and we were yelling for their kids and yeah we heard this so you heard rapid fire it was like semi-automatic going off really close to people screaming and hiding and ducking now your vehicle all of with a lot of vendors out here you're all in the same boat everything is still at the festival it's an active scene still we don't really sort of know what's going on like initially they got one shooter and then they're looking for two others we got moved over to the school and we're just waiting to hear word of when we can get in they said we can't get our stuff for 24 hours we're trying to figure out it we drive do we go to a hotel where they gonna move us but really we can't leave without our stuff and I'm from Berkeley I'm not from down here I have no way home and we're just waiting thank you for sharing that first-hand account with us and we are also trying to sort out a lot of the information still as it pertains to the shooter or shooters but again another witness talking about what they witnessed and we were just talking about this with Juliet and we'll go back to Charles Ramsey as well that the important thing here is to reunite families that might have been scattered so Charles let's go back to you we were talking about what police are dealing with the word is this shooter assuming it's one has not been apprehended well they're they're doing their best to lock down that area to establish a perimeter but the reality is when these things occur there's a great deal of chaos you don't know if the shooter might have taken advantage of that and fled the scene at the same time do you have one person do you have more than one person is the description that we heard from the previous witness actually an accurate description of the shooter we don't know any of that at this point in time anybody who happened to be at that scene that might have cellphone video or any kind of video at all they may have captured what took place need to get in touch with the police right away because right now I would imagine they're there going through a process that's really it's quite difficult to really get your handle on everything that's going on so that you can provide accurate information to the public but just like Juliette said right now a big part of that is gonna be reuniting families people were spread out all over probably various vendors you start hearing gunshots people start running reports of people being injured that may or may not be the result of the shooting I mean in situations like that you know people trample other people quite frankly trying to find a way out so they've got a lot to sort through but right now they got to lock it down they got to search that scene to make sure that there's no more active threats right there I didn't get down to the business of identifying this person right and it's 8:30 p.m. there in California Charles so as darkness sets in how much more difficult will this be well it gets to be a lot more difficult but they'll bring in portable lighting and so forth but they're going to do everything they can to lock that scene down but it's an outdoor scene so it that's not easy and you've got to have the resources and the manpower there in order to be able to do it but darkness does complicate things there's no question about that but they'll do the best they can in terms of using canines and everything else that they're exposed at their disposal helicopters they'll use whatever they have to use in order to thoroughly search that area all right Charles Thank You Juliet thank you we are staying on top with this breaking news coverage getting more information trickling in we'll take a short break we'll be right back in the city of Gilroy California at the cities garlic music festival of all places Gilroy is about 30 miles from San Jose police say the situation is still active and the San Francisco branch of the ATF is responding to this situation we want to show you some video from the ground that we received from a witness we also received this video where you can hear gunshots witnesses that hit the ground during this describe complete chaos as you can imagine let's take a listen these people were doing henna and they were hungry so I went to get the corn for them and when I was at the corn booth two shots rang out first and at the same time the music started for the concert so I thought it was like a opening act for the concert but after few seconds there was so many short atatatatat and I saw people falling down kids falling down I had to jump over three of the kids one bullet passed me very closely and it hit our friends booth her chair and the sharpening water into her leg also too she injured there why would I know you said you injured your knee in the chaos of all of this running water and jumping over people to get to my boot to make sure that everybody was safe I heard you can tell that people just had no idea what was happening this is a three-day festival a very popular festival and this was the very end of the festival when this happened we're learning from Stanford medicine that two patients are being treated following this shooting we want to go down to former Secret Service agent Jonathan whack bro joining us now Jonathan is a CNN law enforcement analyst and he is in Middletown New Jersey Thank You Jonathan we've got very little information to go on what we do know is the best we can tell at least one shooter at the end of this festival somehow got in amongst the crowd and then started firing what would be the police response what would they be doing right now to try to find this person that we understand has not been apprehended this is the challenge for law enforcement right now you have a very dynamic and active crime scene where you do not have you know proper identification of who the suspect is so as it said earlier I believe a deep Ramsey said earlier the suspect could potentially be hiding within the crowd itself so the law enforcement really has to take a very systematic approach as to you know how they're going to you know uh you know basically build out from the from the the center of the attack going outwards in concentric circles to understand where this individual is are they on the run are they hiding someplace so all law enforcement resources whether it's from the federal government local and state are going to converge on to this location to actually you know put this threat down and ensure the public safety from there they'll take pause and then they will start looking at this is an active crime scene you'll have to try to understand what the motive D of the attack was is there any secondary attacks and go on from there if this person Jonathan was able to slip away for some reason if a security person or police that was at this festival wasn't able to track this person how much harder is that now considering this is surrounded by a rural area and a woodland this is just it transfers into you know a police investigation and understanding and bringing forth all of the clues together to make the proper identification one of the advantages today in the age of social media and everyone's streaming video Co joined with law enforcement use of you know social media and video surveillance of these large public events I think that identification of the individual you know it should be made quickly if the police don't know it already well we're seeing video of a creek and some witnesses were saying there is a creek behind this festival and wondered if that's how this person moved in because apparently according to one witness I just talked with they were dressed in fatigues I think we have another witness now they're Shawntel tell our viewers out there what it was like for you you told me it was around 5:30 this afternoon this evening when everything kind of go up did yeah but you could see you could hear bullets and the bullets were hitting the ground you could see them go up and that's what I called out it's a real gun and so the crew and the band ran and hid underneath that's the stage so we were hiding underneath the stage we could hear more gunfire happening eventually some gunfire happened when bullets were hitting the stage that we were hiding underneath and then eventually it stopped there was people just calling out looking for people eventually we came out and I could see that they were there was someone down and they were performing CPR on them and let her eyes hurt it was the gunman how quickly was was all this happening because we got a few things we've got a die second that that situation there how quickly was all of this going on I think the whole thing took maybe 15 minutes okay very fast very fast and you said that you saw bullets that were dropping from from a gun from yeah person yeah well you it sounded like firecrackers going off but then there was dirt puffs going up in Simonton in unison so that's that's a gun to me describe to me exactly where you were and where you were looking out in order to see all of this out I was very far stage right and looking out on looking over the audience because as a stagehand I had nothing to do other than wait for the band to finish and so we were just about ready to start cleaning up and clearing out for the day there in the middle of their song and you're looking at under the audience and that's when you started seeing hurt at first and then I saw the bullets yep okay in terms of because I know that you you join the band underneath the stage that's correct absolutely okay did you see victims what did what did you see other than just you know dirt puffs hitting the ground well like I said I came out later on and was looking around I was worried about a fellow crew members and I saw that they were they were moving hay bales and the police were moving hay bales in front of some things I drew my attention there and I they were performing I could see somebody performing CPR and later on I heard someone else told me that it was a gunman and there was the gunman there because that's in the same direction where the bullets were coming from did you see a gun I'd never saw a gun okay were you have you been told by anybody that there may have been more than just one shooter or I heard there was more than one shooter I also saw people covered in blood so it's decisis when someone I saw they had blood splatter all over him and handprint on them so they were standing next to somebody who got shot and were there emergency crews that were helping these people or what what was at that time they still there were people just coming in the area there was a police presence there thank goodness so it didn't last very long what was it like for you when you were under the stage it was it was very scary I was texting my family and telling them I loved them because I had no idea what was going to happen you weren't sure if you were gonna make it out a lot correct when that's when all of that is going on what were other people that run to the stage doing were you thinking possibly we have to find a way to get out of here or was it just huddled down everyone was just being quiet we did not want to draw any attention to us and once you were able to get out from underneath what was what was going on then was were there police officers there there were police officers there they were clearing out the area the area that we had there was a tarp hiding underneath the stage so the police were coming to clear out that area and so they told us to get our hands up and come out one at a time and to make sure that everything was clear and safe and then what happened from there we were escorted to a parking lot and escorted to another meeting spot and then we had to told we had to leave the park and now we're at one of the evacuation spots during that time when you're when you're coming over here were you being informed of anything where emergency responders telling you what happened that were victims they were telling us to stay calm and not to speculate and not to use her cell phones too much because we wanted to keep the airway is clear for police communication and in terms of not being a lead you know being told that you can't use your cell phones you're at the same time thinking I need to let my loved ones know absolutely what's going on so what was that one for you oh well it was it was stressful because we had to you know I was texting people I wasn't trying to have a prolonged phone call conversations so it was it was pretty harrowing you know but hey I'd just stay calm and because panic doesn't really help anybody and we had to start cleaning up the I was there working so well Sean we're glad that you were okay and I we do thank you for sharing the time here in terms of coming here did did were you here looking for anybody did everybody get out that you came with are you waiting for anybody everyone's here now and we were talking about trying to find what's what's the next step all my everyone's car is still there and it's gonna be closed for the next 24 hours so yeah I'm not gonna have access to my vehicle for a while so we're all trying to figure out how to get home have you been told as to whether or not there is still somebody that's that's out there and that's what's preventing you from getting in I believe so yeah yeah I wasn't told it I wasn't necessarily told I overheard people talking about another shooter but I don't know anything else from that point again in terms of the people that were there with you or have you been talking to anybody that might still be in there that because from what we don't know no no one I know is left everyone everyone's out now so yeah I don't know anyone that's left in the festival now and just going back to the initial moment it was you know the the band's getting going through there their last song the night I I believe it was an encore that was happening and then something just erupts yeah yeah something erupted yeah it sounded like fireworks and that drew my a with loud fireworks too drew my attention and the nice the puffs of dirt in conjunction with the loud fireworks told me that that's that's a weapon and we don't need to be there it's an active shooter situation can you tell me how many shots you may have heard oh five or six and it happened relatively fast and I saw only a handful of puffs of dirt for me to be able to figure out that it was a weapon so then we cleared out from that point so apparently the guy had a handgun at one of the people as we were being evacuated it said that I had a handgun okay so so you never saw the gun but some people believe that it may have been a handgun correct you aren't sure how many shooters might have been out there correct but but you are certain from from what you what you've gathered on you know looking out there that it was definitely somebody that was shooting and that he was hitting people yes was there anything that might have seemed like there was an argument or a fight or something that might have provoked this came out of nowhere I was on stage with a band playing so I wouldn't have heard anything beyond a stage anyway it would have taken something very loud for to go over the PA system well Sean thank you so much for again sharing this with us we're glad to see that you were okay and that your friends are doing okay and we're just sorry that you had to go through something like this and we're just going to keep getting as much information and and you know we appreciate the people that are here at the reunification center taking the time to really share what happened here today thank you thank you for that I do want to alright another witness describing what he saw what he heard what he went through we have on the phone with us now the mayor of San Jose California Sam Lee Cardo is here with us and mr. acardo we understand that San Jose is about 30 minutes north of Gilroy what have you learned about this shooting and the what the situation is right now in searching for who are there were more people responsible well it is still an active scene and so I can't comment on what they've learned so far but I can tell you that we've deployed more than a dozen police units down there we've got a lot of fire units providing paramedic service and we're going to continue to send people down as bill really needs help we know that they need help with patrol and all the other basic necessities well what did you tell us about this festival where is Gilroy in relation to California how popular is this festival how many people might have been there how many people live in Gilroy people about 20 miles to our south and we enter city about 1.1 billion so obviously were the nearest big city a hundreds of thousands of people attend the Gilroy Garlic Festival every year it's a very big attraction it celebrates the agricultural heritage of the town and it raises money for local nonprofits and incredibly wonderful family-friendly event and this is the last place anyone would want to imagine such a horrible thing happening we have a tweet there on our screen right now from the Illinois police confirming that this is still an active crime scene meaning that this shooter or the shooters we just don't know how many has not been apprehended and also announcing that they will have an update soon this should be the first from the police so let's read it right here as a reminder please do not come to Christmas Hill Park that is where the festival took place this is still an active crime scene we'll be sharing information with the media soon and thank you for your patience during this rapidly evolving situation back to you mayor how important was the response that Gilroy being a town of 50,000 got support from San Jose and other areas well it's pretty common for all the cities and county to rely on mutual aid when something this awful happens and we're always happy provided it talk to the police chief just an hour ago and he said that you know he couldn't hold people back from running down there to try to help so obviously everyone wants to do what they can to help neighbors in need all right mayor we thank you so much Sam locario out of San Jose thank you for joining us we want to go now straight to CNN's dan Simon he is on the ground for us in Gilroy California dan what are you learning and what is this scene there where you are we are at Gavilan College this is sort of a reunification site for people to meet up with loved ones at this point I would say they're a little more than 100 or so people here and as I was walking around I encountered a gentleman who was actually performing with the band when the shots right now I've got to pass the phone to him in a moment but he is the lead singer for the band heard all the gunshots and then immediately left the stage his name is Christian Swain and I'm gonna hand the phone chill right now at Aliso you'll be able to talk to Christian your family hello yes hi Christian tell us what you experienced as this shooting broke out well we were the last band of the last day on a stage called the cleavage stage 5:30 had just come because that was the end of our set the crowd asked for us to play one more song which we launched into and about halfway into it we heard about three pops to the left-hand side of the stage and you know it's a little confusing we didn't know what that was and then all of a sudden there was a whole volley of shots out all of a sudden became very obvious and so we ran off the stage we crawled underneath it and we laid down it kept quiet until the police arrived they seem to have secured the area fairly quickly probably within five or six minutes they came and found us somebody who said hey there's one to the stage and you know we let them know it's the band and they they escorted us out and they escorted us away our guitar player did see the shooter he said it was a guy with what appears to be an assault rifle he's not a weapons expert he doesn't know much about it he said that several times dude look the police interviewed him so far but he he said he was wearing a green shirt had a gray Fantana neck and a ball cap and that's that's all he remembered how we we saw people with blood on shirts I don't think any of us saw actual victims we were escorted away very quickly it's a large-scale event and you know we probably walked a half a mile to a 1-point we thought we'd you know be allowed escorted back get equipment and then they told us know they're gonna secure this down lock this down for 24 hours and then they moved us out to a high school they put us on some buses and then took us over to Gavilan College which is the point all right Christian we're very glad that you and your bandmates are okay as you were speaking I just that one person is confirmed dead so far and multiple people have been injured so you were quite fortunate when you said you've heard the first pops and then the volley any idea how close the shooter was to you oh he was we was like 20 feet away we could smell the Gunpowder my goodness what were you thinking what were you feeling as you went and hid under the stage you know all I can say for me is that it was just everybody shut up keep quiet stay down we knew the the event was was well covered with security and we'd seen him as we came in to set up and play so you know at least in my head I knew they would be there and sure enough that seems to be what happened your band member that saw the shooter and believes it was an assault rifle did he was he able to figure out the approximate age of this person or any description he says 30 to 40 years old Caucasian Caucasian right yeah and again where are you right now we're at the reunification of life at Gavilan College and what is it can you describe the scene there are there are a lot of people there that are you know it seems like people are showing up to people up nobody has allowed into the site until tomorrow afternoon and about the time the shooting happened how many people would you say were in the crowd or around you how because it happened there were there were there were there were several hundred in front of us watching out to play there was a set of vendors selling food just to the left of us and what Jack tells me the shooter was criminally firing I guess mostly in that direction is dark my goodness thousands of people Christian thank you so much if you could hand the phone back to our reporter Paul Burke and will continue our reporting thank you so much we're so glad you're opening in your band hey Paul can you hear me Paul let's see if we can so I believe if Dan isn't going to hang up I'll pick it up from here we understand there's been a tremendous response from various fire departments and ambulance companies in the area and Cal Fire alone they don't just cover fires they have sent three air ambulances at least and 10 medic units to the area and you of course earlier Natalie reported that they had sent some of the shooting victims to Stanford Medical Center that would be to the north also governor Gavin Newsom is now weighing in this is on his Twitter account he said this is nothing short of horrific tonight California stands with the Gilroy community my office is monitoring the situation closely grateful for the law enforcement efforts and their continued work as this situation develops and as you confirmed at least one person has been killed in this incident and they are still calling this an active shooter scene that's the Gilmore Police Department and we noticed also in nearby Morgan Hill they were also warning people to stay away from the fairgrounds the grounds were this Gilroy Garlic Festival annual it occurs Natalie right let's go back to Dan Simon he's there at this thing dan can you hear me yep I can hear you Natalie all right can you go ahead and talk more about what you're seeing a disdain there so this is the reunification area and what I'm seeing it's just people sort of sharing stories with one another hugging their loved ones there there's a bunch of people that are now getting on to a bus I'm not exactly sure where they're going at the moment but I just encountered another person who witnessed what was going on you heard from a musician just a moment ago this is actually another musician who was up on stage the guitar player who actually saw the gunman and I'm gonna pass the phone down to him this is a jack van what shall I send Jack Van Breen and he was about 20 feet away from the shooter so I'm gonna pass the phone again to hit badly here you go all right thanks Dan Jack thanks so much for talking to me like this yeah hi Jack thanks so much you saw the shooter can you describe him I can it was believed a white male 30 40 years old not real good at that he was wearing a green top of some type he had a gray handkerchief around you know a kerchief around his throat and a ball cap of some type I heard what sounded like a rifle shot to me and I turned and saw him and he was getting ready to shoot some more into a large group of people and I tracked with my bandmates in Jin man is that time to go we cleared the stage with the sound crew and got below the stage where we at least be not visible is there any way that you can give us a sense of his demeanor he seemed to be angry but again he was quite you know 20 30 feet from me and so I didn't get a good close and once I saw that he was shooting multiple rounds I didn't want to stick around and you know doctor I understood I understood as far as where he was standing where might he have come from if he was next to the stage what was behind the stage well it wasn't it was next to the stage for a ways away it was the start of the food court in that part of the Garlic Festival so he came from the service road as near as I can tell that was the direction she was Eddie but it was away from the service road there's a Creek right there and he may have come from there I don't know this service road is that the road I think I've heard ascribed were the that it's closed to the public but that's what the the vendors use the exactly so the vendors on the north side of the park use that to access and bring it there where's the food etc did you come that way to set up as a musician yes we did come exactly that way and we got we got there early we got there about 2:30 and then we brought our gear in we hung out behind the stage and listen to the other band we're just you know things were calm and peaceful right and when you got to the service road and it was there security there to check you before you came into the festival and we heard from your bandmate Christian about what happened after that but let's hear from you jack as soon as you realize that's a person with a gun what did you do as I said I turned to my bandmates is that we have to get off the stage we we and the sound crew that was on stage with us Plus some volunteers from the Garlic Festival that were being our support we all got down and we crawled under the stage the stage had what do you call it she around it so you couldn't see under the stage and we all laid down quietly and hope that he would be apprehended or at least go away and and you know Jack what was running through your mind is just oh my god this is actually real this is not watching somebody else on the news right because so many times in these instances with these and look festivals as we saw in Las Vegas these are just people out enjoying themselves and it's hard to comprehend was it for you that I'm in the middle of what seems to be a mass shooting yes exactly my first thought was this guy's gonna try and shoot as many people as he can and I've got family I didn't want to be part of it how many band members more performant tinman is a five-piece band so the usual bass drums cheese singer guitar player have you been able to reach your family to let them know you're okay yes even even while we were still under the stage I was able to reach my wife and kid Sheldon that it's a situation we think we're okay and as soon as the officers cleared the immediate space and requested that we go to a gathering zone I texted my family members of my other household and my work to let them know and then I took a moment to put a Facebook post because I have a lot of friends that might have heard about it on Facebook and I wanted them to know that I would say you know what this first broke out and we were reading it that it happened at the Gilroy Garlic Festival that was hard to comprehend this is the food festival it's been going on for decades it supports the community it's a family festival have you performed there before and what is the vibe of this festival yes we've this was our third year performing there with this band I had performed twice before with a different band and we've never seen anything like that the festival's very well organized they monitor alcohol consumption very closely so they don't have the typical alcoholic disputes that you would have in when you have thousands of people on the hottest weekend of the year so it's it's shocking jack we appreciate you talking with us we're glad you're okay thank you so much for sharing your story with us

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